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DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.16 18:09:00 -
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Pingu wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We may make mistakes here and there but we're not dumb enough to think we can use Jedi mind tricks on you guys :) Every answer from CCP is like a jedi mind trick. Getting the information we want from you is like pulling teeth. Will give you an example to illustrate this, here are three easy questions for you to (not?) answer... Big list of all the give aways please, by this I mean ships or things created by CCP that were not given to the entire playerbase. You have said nothing was given away in secret, so because it is not a secret there is nothing stopping you from telling us. Pop it all in this thread in one convenient post for people to see, as it is not a secret. If the list is too massive then a link to where you have published it will do. Can we see that which is not secret? Could you could also tell us how many GTC's have been sold by Somer (or their related gtc selling site). What is their $ value profit per GTC sold and how many have they sold; how real life profitable are they? I have two trillion I could convert to ISK so how do I get to become an affiliate to rmt my isk as gtc's for $48,000? Three easy questions to answer: what has been given away, how much has somer/their-rmt-site made and how do I get on the isk to $ conversion gravy train. Let's see how CCP do on these easy questions.
If there is one thing I really want to know it is how real life profitable somer/their-rmt-site was and I hope the CSM asks this.
Oh, and ten of twelve accounts unsubbed and the last two end in six days. |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.16 20:40:00 -
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Argus Sorn wrote:I think a lot more people will be selling GTC's if this is the case.
I was serious when I posted earlier that I want to know how to do this so I can cash in my two trillion for $48,000. I will be offering 200million and adding an extra .01 ISK with mine...
edit: 200 million IN GAME ISK. |

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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:46:00 -
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If you missed it then check out this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=287241
This post in it is pretty important: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3747593#post3747593 |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:48:00 -
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EVE-GAMES wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Well it is nice to know we can convert our characters back to cash instead of useless isk, especially now as isk will have no value. Thanks DNS BLACK, well done, you will be missed but for 2.5k I really understand that  So after 47 pages of ranting and thinly veiled insults, your ok with it now? Seems a bit hypocritical to be upset when others do something you perceive as wrong, but if you can profit from it.... suddenly it becomes acceptable.
It was an EVE style **** you CCP?
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DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:36:00 -
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Have to say this has been quality decision making by CCP in allowing a cash to made up currency to character exchange.
CCP, grow a pair and ban this (and the rmt somer, eve-games and all the rest of them that do it). |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:19:00 -
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Shai 'Hulud wrote:I have thrown my hat in the ring  (see In-Game Events and Gatherings forum)
Dude, no need to be shy, advertise that sale!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=287581&find=unread
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:12:00 -
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Time to get this rmt crap stopped dead by taking it to the limit like any good eve player would. Time to kick CCP in the balls just like they did to me by giving somer all that isk for nothing.
edit: cant link the url for some reason, but it is in the In-Game Events and Gatherings thread... |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:15:00 -
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raven666wings wrote:DarkDecay wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=287597&find=unreadRead this and substitute 6 billion ISK free with that gtc that costs $105... edit: using some fake currency and fake raffle to avoid rmt entanglements of course...  edit: and check out the 'Tournament Prize Ships Raffle' thread too for your chance to buy, eh, I mean raffle unique ships! Dayum dude... howcome you undercutting your plex so low??? $8.75 a pop (minus the 1/12 of the GTC value)?? for real??  dayum... I was gonna raffle some plex packs too but not gonna compete with that price... won't go lower than $13 a pop 
lol, not like I need to make a massive real life profit as all I want to do is shove CCP's nose in it so they dont **** in the house again...
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DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:56:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Handsome Feller wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:Ship Toaster wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6369&find=unread
17. Lottery style sales are not permitted. Auctions and buyouts are the appropriate method for selling a character.
The DNSBlack thing has never been allowed. he didn't lotto the character. he lotto'ed a chance to bid on the character. Going by dnsblack's character selling process, you have to enter the lottery to be able to buy the character. It is an intrinsic part of the process of buying the character. You can argue all you want about semantics, but if CCP decide that the quoted part of the ToS apply to the whole process and not just the final exchange step, expect bio massed characters and many many tears. If this happens, anyone who gets upset about it should realise it's not a court of law but a court of CCP and their mighty swinging todger of doom. Should that happen I think people would be rightfully pissed. You can do that with isk/ships/plex/items/skillbooks but not characters. It would not just look like but be CCP playing favorites again. Except this time it would be them determining who is allowed to run a lottery.
Yo Handsome, there was no paid lottery for a character at any stage. So no buying of a character was ever part of this process.
The lottery was a freebie for those who buy gtc, an incentive to buy from DNS; the cash for GTC is separate from the lottery. The cash for gtc is legal. The offering of freebies via made up currency to boost your sales is legal. Link these two together and you have a winner.
This is the legal sleight of hand that makes rmt into not-rmt.
This is what we do not like.
Oh, and buy my plex twelve pack at 50% the price of CCP's! What about an ISK injection? I do those too... Get those unique ships you always dreamed about. Check out the 'In-Game Events and Gatherings' part of this very forum as that is where CCP said these EVE stuffz to fake currency to raffle to $$$ should go.
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DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:11:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:I won't slag you off for missing the point.
lol, if it was me got to apologise but am a bit distracted as I was writing a new post to increase the absurdity level of this... DarkDecay is EVE's oldest and most trusted Plex and ISK conversion service. You got the $$$ I got the stuffz! |

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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:38:00 -
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Handsome, to those of us who dont like this situation at all this is definitely, 100%, absolutely, hands down, rmt. It is just sad that CCP cant see it instantly as rmt like we do. The only time $$$ enter the process is to legally buy an overpriced gtc, we all know that it was really $$$ for character (or ISK in the somer model) but CCP just wont see it that way.
The somer defence is bad, but the eve-games dude saying it is ok because ccp have not stopped it shows how messed up this all is. DarkDecay is EVE's oldest and most trusted Plex and ISK conversion service. You got the $$$ I got the stuffz! |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:41:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Moving your thread is not endorsement, it's making sure that it's in the correct forum for the topic.
This should never be a topic. RMT is wrong, remove it from eve. DarkDecay is EVE's oldest and most trusted Plex and ISK conversion service. You got the $$$ I got the stuffz! |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:51:00 -
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Handsome Feller wrote:DarkDecay, I know, however there are additional rules regarding Character sale when compared to any other type. That's my point and if CCP so chooses, they could use those additional rules to justify wielding their mighty pork sword. hence why I said it's a shame that dns didn't do it with an iScorp and not a character as that pitches players into the potential "legal" rmt.
Got the accent btw :P
The character was never sold but only transferred. That is the sad point here. By breaking the rmt process up into smaller steps, that are all seen by CCP as legal, it appears you can bypass all the rules. This is not good and needs stomped on immediately. DarkDecay is EVE's oldest and most trusted Plex and ISK conversion service. You got the $$$ I got the stuffz! |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 11:22:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Moving your thread is not endorsement, it's making sure that it's in the correct forum for the topic.
Discussion is still ongoing internally regarding this kind of practice.
Reference to any endorsement of this by CCP Staff have been removed until an decision is made regarding it rather than misinformation.
Don't put words in my mouth in future.
Dear CCP Falcon,
How much would an endorsement of my business model cost? You know the one where I sell for $$$ plex or ISK on this very forum in the place you said these types of threads should go.
Currently my profits are only $300 so do you offer an endorsement package a bit cheaper than the absolute endorsement package that somer got?
I cant really afford somer's endorsement, that was like an in the middle of the superbowl or world cup final $10million tv advert that they got (you know the we trust and endorse somer completely and they are the greatest thing since sliced bread one), so what can I get for $300?
Cheers, DD DarkDecay is EVE's oldest and most trusted Plex and ISK conversion service. You got the $$$ I got the stuffz!
More details here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3753027#post3753027 |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:47:00 -
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Damn, my new sig informing people I am now the number one plex for $$$ 'raffler' in EVE sig is gone :(
edit: my new corp name survives though \o/
edit: so many missing posts too :( |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:31:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:CCP just locked 2 or 3 of the RMT threads but left DNSBlack's alone. so, it does look like an implicit acknowledgement that what he is doing is above board for now under the current EULA.
EDIT: DNSBlack's thread is still open, it seems Dolan has said that the ETC must go through an authorized reseller first but he raised no issue other than that.
lol, that means that only DNS (the winner) and me (second aint bad) got to sell stuffz?
edit: and mine did go through an authorised reseller... |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:54:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3755340#post3755340
Another ccp post on this topic. |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:29:00 -
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Will need to give CCP the benefit of the doubt on the thread locks as both mine and Shai's were ongoing while DNS's was over and there was no need to lock it.
He did the same as me and Shai and used an official reseller to get the buyer his GTC.
We all used the somer defence of raffle and made up currency.
Where we differed was that he never seemed to ask for a massive $2500 for his GTC's and someone just offered it, while I set an actual price for the GTC of $105 instead of $35 that people could accept for a 'free' plex pack and Shai had $1000 for a gtc for a ship raffle.
This could be the other reason why the threads were locked or not? |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:18:00 -
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Just popping in to say that I am still getting emails about people wanting to buy plex and isk for $$$.
If it had been a serious venture by me, and not just a giant **** you to ccp, then I think I could have sold, er 'raffled', maybe $3k worth in the last day. Seems like peeps love a bargain.
If someone did want to legitimately cash out then becoming a GTC reseller and giving a bigger bonus than somer or the other rmt'ers is the way to do it.
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DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.19 21:41:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Personally I think too much will be put on this survey as if it comes back with results that say "The community has said Somer can keep getting billions of isk in gifts and continue to RMT" then people will just call bull on the whole thing and CCP can hardly argue as to why the results are correct as they have already shown their favoritism and the fact they will bend the rules for Somer Blink.
I think a truly independent survey company would be needed here as lets face it CCP and trust just seem to go together now.
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DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.21 03:16:00 -
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Rammix wrote:Because they're not capsuleers anymore. Leaving eve they waive the right to affect it. An example to clarify this: If you leave some country and stop being its citizen you won't have vote there. It's just logical and fair.
By leaving EVE we have affected it in a manner that is very hard for CCP to ignore. There can be infinite surveys or dev blogs on this but they wont entice us back to EVE. The exceptionally unhealthy relationship with somer (and the fairness issues surrounding it), dealing with rmt (somer again), giving away mega prizes (and gifts to somer yet again), and even the ToS fiasco (no doubt somer are here somehow too), are just a few of the contentious issues that CCP will need to deal with before we return.
No one in their right mind will trust CCP if the results of their survey validates the CCP position: the loss of integrity over these somer issues and CCP's sandbox breaking defence of them has seen to that.
I dont care about some survey while I have unsubbed as it will have zero impact on my decision to return or not. Ending the relationship with somer and ending their rmt too is what will convince me and will be the only thing. In this I have learned from previous CCP disasters and will quote the best response for players when dealing with CCP, "Watch what they do, not what they say".
EVE is not a country. Nor is it some form of direct democracy. Even if it was, although it is not, we who have unsubbed over this block of issues are voting with a type of vote that impacts CCP at a different level than people who respond to a survey. The question we have answered is not just 'Do you feel strongly enough about this issue to stop playing EVE?', but the real question we have responded to is when CCP ask us 'Can we have your real life ISK?' and we have answered it with 'No because you ****** up too badly this time'. It may be a tacit addition to our answer but CCP know fine well they need to fix things if they want to get our real life ISK again.
Logic and fairness does not apply here. Ironically, if it did there would not have been this entire mess. |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.21 19:52:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Nanatoa wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Have you petitioned it in game? It was CCP who announced the gold magnates, and it was CCP Navigator who made statements attesting to their honesty and honouring all transactions, and I'm sure that without those statements about what the prize was and how trustworthy the people handling it were you wouldn't have wished to partake and donate that much money to somer That last part (my bolding) is very true. The only reason I put my 16 billion into SOMER Blink was to get a shot at owning a truly historic vessel, something CCP assured I had a honest chance of winning. I really want this settled and my patience and softspokenness should not be confused with a lack of determiniation or persistence. I have an update on this situation: Nothing has changed :( No word from SOMER Blink. No word from Somerset Mahm. No word from CCP. It's like it's the most trustworthy and reliable thing in the world to announce you're doing something, take money for it, and then not do it. Now I don't mind scams in EVE, but I do mind CCP actively participating in them. I would never have given SOMER Blink money if not for CCPs announcement and endorsement.
Next steps?
http://eng.innanrikisraduneyti.is/laws-and-regulations/english/lotteries/ http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/ (ccp servers are on Uk territory, involved in facilitation of gambling, and this is the appropriate regulatory body) |

DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.22 12:44:00 -
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Damn, two hours left on my last account and I cant think of anything good/funny to say in what could be my last ever post, this will have to do...
Saw the reason CCP closed DNS's thread and it had nothing to do with rmt. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3755219#post3755219 So if you sell a character for $$$ without using a lottery it is ok?
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I cant haz a sig so http://www.eve-search.com/thread/285492-1/page/35#1035
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