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StuckAtTheLock
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:00:00 -
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People are forgetting that blink makes a cut of successful transactions through 3rd party sales through referrals. Since somer has more isk than anybody knows wha to do with- what can they do with it in game? The answer is nothing. What about out of game? Well, if somer could find a way to offload his extra isk as cash, then he'd be sitting pretty.
This is exactly what he is doing. He is losing out on 200m isk for each successful plex sale and pocketing a percentage of the Cash transaction(through mar dragon). Since he is providing a plex for the same cost as ccp- but giving the purchaser +200m isk over current market value- who wouldn't take advantage of this?
Somer is losing 200m isk for every plex purchase through their site, but gaining real money. Convenient way to offload a basically worthless supply of infinite isk?
This is absolutely RMT. You can split hairs however you like but you can't deny that somer's model is to give up 200m isk to gain real cash.
The worst part is not that ccp sanctioned this action publicly- but they encouraged it and labelled it as the most deserving(helpful) community service project. Disgusting. |
StuckAtTheLock
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:19:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Jimmy Farrere wrote:
Buy Plex ($$$)-> convert to isk (game money)-> convert to blink credit (casino chips)-> gamble
One difference. You can convert casino chips back into real money. You can't do that with blink credit. (and you can't do it with ISK, either).
Please go back about 5 pages and read again.
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StuckAtTheLock
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.13 18:56:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:
Not quite.
The sale is made by Markee Dragon. They pass a little money to Somer as a commission for that.
Markee Dragon also gives the buyer a code that they can redeem with Blink for Blink Credit. (You can't cash out directly. you have to win something.)
I'm not justifying it one way or another. Just clarifying.
For the 100th time, it doesn't matter how many steps are in the process- you still get isk out of it, it is still RMT.
If RMT sites offered 'RMTSite.com credit' that you could convert to isk through bidding on billion isk packages, would that make it ok? No. There really isn't any grey line here, somer is converting his extra isk to cash by giving it away if you buy GTC from him. |
StuckAtTheLock
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.15 02:55:00 -
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Welp, my account lapses in 24 hrs. If ccp responds after then - I won't be able to give any input.
Thanks for taking... coming on 1.5 weeks to respond to this fiasco ccp.
Hopefully there are plenty that will keep the pressure on about the blatant RMT and favoritism business because as it currently stands I won't be coming back. |
StuckAtTheLock
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.15 23:52:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Hi again everyone.
Just a small update. We've been following the discussion and we are working on and/or looking at the topics brought up in this thread but as I talked about in the original post and in follow-up posts, we're making no fast decisions on any policies apart from the pausing of rare in-game reward programs. For all policy matters we are sitting down with relevant stakeholders and taking our time with the various feedback from the various channels so that what we end up with makes sense not just for the cases on people's minds right now, but also other current cases and potential future ones. Hasty decisions are not the solution here.
As we've stated, we are working on a more visible framework for how we reward and encourage third party initiatives. Work that had partly started but has been accelerated because of recent events. The timeline will probably run through the CSM winter summit with some information likely to be available sooner.
We had a good meeting with the CSM today where we discussed how we'll proceed in terms of gathering feedback on specific points of the debate through surveys. We're also looking at the EULA questions brought up in this discussion, another matter that will take some time and input from relevant stakeholders in the company.
A lot of us will be away for EVE Vegas in the coming days and we hope to meet some of you there for a chat.
Are you kidding me?
The issue at hand is not only future events but the legitimacy of THIS event and you are not going to respond until AFTER the event?
full on **** on the customer's face. way to go |
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