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Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:06:00 - [1] Konora, Metropolis - Thursday One week ago, BURN EDEN declared war on RA and SNU. I said excatly what we were going to do: Kill them some, then stop. These results are from Monday 16th of January to Wednesday 25th January, a total of 10 days. The empire war was active from 22:00 on Thursday 19th January. Ship classKL Assault frigate111 Battlecruiser120 Battleship483 Capsule 621 Covert ops50 Cruiser 360 Destroyer40 Frigate 442 Heavy assault11 Industrial330 Interceptor80 Interdictor00 Logistics00 Mining barge12 0 Noobship150 Shuttle 160 Transport20 Total 309 8 BURN EDEN would like to thank the pilots of Shadow Company for the fun we had this past week. They were truly instemental in this battle. We would also like to thank JOgden from Reddish Bears for his delivery of 196k mega and 193k Zydrine in his unescorted indy with no stabs . Please check out our Recruitment Thread if you would like to get in on the action. Loot is in the process of being sold. Estimates are currently set at 3-4 billion isk. I will leave you to digest this information along with some quotes from people who made comments about us during this war: [SNRA] -lv- PsyBlade : "I see that Burn Eden got spanked by RA" [FNZ] Pa1nbringer: "burn eden is so scary" [MASS] SA Dantes Inferno: "has any one actualy seen them since RMR? (BE i mean)" [Noob alt] Zooish: "Didn't realize that Burn Eden had to corrage to undock yet with the Sensor Dampner change in RMR." [BEC] BOB Rohann: "So Shin Ra your guys have died alot huh?" [5] ATUK Smith: "I can only assume you are bored or you cant fly in EvE anymore because your setups are gimped. Am I correct on either of these assumptions?" Shin Ra BURN EDEN
Hast	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:11:00 - [2] Edited by: Hast on 26/01/2006 13:10:54 first. grats on teh zydrine and megacyte Give miners a log off timer
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:15:00 - [3] Nice stats. CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
Raxxar	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:20:00 - [4] Edited by: Raxxar on 26/01/2006 13:20:49 I see 4 BURN'ing pods in our KB for the specified period:) This means that you decreased your losses four times but anyway good score! { Raxxar ; UAI ; Red Alliance }
Taz Devlin	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:21:00 - [5] The world once again hails you as the best warriors since Conan But seriously... is there really a need to have the forums as your own personal blog site? The Collective
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:29:00 - [6] Originally by: Raxxar Edited by: Raxxar on 26/01/2006 13:20:49 I see 4 BURN'ing pods in our KB for the specified period:) This means that you decreased your losses four times but anyway good score! Sorry I was juggling figures and forgot to add up pods as our KB doesnt display them. We did indeed loose 4 or 5 pods. I also forgot to add some more RA pos kills, so it evens it out.
danneh	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:32:00 - [7] Nice stats.
Rhodry Amarrian	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:36:00 - [8] Edited by: Rhodry Amarrian on 26/01/2006 13:36:55 meh pointless flame, better to just ignore these threads.
Cloned Mark	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:39:00 - [9] Grats on the Reddish (care)bears kill. All those guys do is mine 23/7.
Phoenicia	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Shin Ra Sorry I was juggling figures.... That could be taken the wrong way Gratz on the damage-efficiency ratio, and the loot and free mins Please reduce the width of your signature to be smaller than 400pixels please - Jacques'
Zysco	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:44:00 - [11] Very nice stats
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:45:00 - [12] Nice. -------------
Guderian	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:51:00 - [13] Didn't you kill off RA once already? Or did you stop halfway, so you could kill them again? "Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond."
Fire Hawk	Posted - 2006.01.26 13:56:00 - [14] Pointless thread at it doesnt necessary reflect your and the enemy health. However, nice stats but... but... the lack of assault ships kills make me think you ganked a lot of miners and npc'ers... The only 1 HAC kill is a clue. I may be wrong but it makes me think you only disrupted a lot of mining ops :( _______________________________________________________ ATUK French Wing - Fear the french touch Thanks to our enemies, they made us strong.
Pastora	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:03:00 - [15] Grats, but you forgot to mention that: a) at least one third (maybe even one half) of those kills have nothing to do with RA, or RA friends/allies; b) you have decreased your losses by at lest two times; c) many kills are just random innocent people (yes, some RA pilots are also innocent). =) Thx, bye! _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Pastora	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:04:00 - [16] Originally by: Fire Hawk Pointless thread at it doesnt necessary reflect your and the enemy health. However, nice stats but... but... the lack of assault ships kills make me think you ganked a lot of miners and npc'ers... The only 1 HAC kill is a clue. I may be wrong but it makes me think you only disrupted a lot of mining ops :( You are correct. ;) _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Zirenes	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:06:00 - [17] no wonder that the stas are that good you are what 10ppl and RA and SNU like 2000, you have the atvatich here being small and all that but still nice score.
Zarthanon	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:21:00 - [18] Originally by: Shin Ra Konora, Metropolis - Thursday One week ago, BURN EDEN declared war on RA and SNU. I said excatly what we were going to do: Kill them some, then stop. These results are from Monday 16th of January to Wednesday 25th January, a total of 10 days. The empire war was active from 22:00 on Thursday 19th January. Ship classKL Assault frigate111 Battlecruiser120 Battleship483 Capsule 621 Covert ops50 Cruiser 360 Destroyer40 Frigate 442 Heavy assault11 Industrial330 Interceptor80 Interdictor00 Logistics00 Mining barge12 0 Noobship150 Shuttle 160 Transport20 Total 309 8 BURN EDEN would like to thank the pilots of Shadow Company for the fun we had this past week. They were truly instemental in this battle. We would also like to thank JOgden from Reddish Bears for his delivery of 196k mega and 193k Zydrine in his unescorted indy with no stabs . Please check out our Recruitment Thread if you would like to get in on the action. Loot is in the process of being sold. Estimates are currently set at 3-4 billion isk. I will leave you to digest this information along with some quotes from people who made comments about us during this war: [SNRA] -lv- PsyBlade : "I see that Burn Eden got spanked by RA" [FNZ] Pa1nbringer: "burn eden is so scary" [MASS] SA Dantes Inferno: "has any one actualy seen them since RMR? (BE i mean)" [Noob alt] Zooish: "Didn't realize that Burn Eden had to corrage to undock yet with the Sensor Dampner change in RMR." [BEC] BOB Rohann: "So Shin Ra your guys have died alot huh?" [5] ATUK Smith: "I can only assume you are bored or you cant fly in EvE anymore because your setups are gimped. Am I correct on either of these assumptions?" Shin Ra BURN EDEN You're starting to become KIAEddz with these threads about **nit no one actually cares about and will need firemen ASAP. Originally by:** ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
Fire Hawk	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:21:00 - [19] Originally by: Zirenes no wonder that the stas are that good you are what 10ppl and RA and SNU like 2000, you have the atvatich here being small and all that but still nice score. You wrong. Numbers doesnt mean anything. And even if u have 500ppl in local in a home hub and u are only 10, u can still hurt : guerria tactics. Add that, I can do 0 losses with same stats avoiding fights against fighters and raping apoc's full of DCM's. Is that make me uber and do a topic on the forums ? RA and RAT know to fight, they proved it many times, cant say same for BE but well, that's why i got doubts but well time change things PS : Not a flame to RA/RAT/BE, a simple explaination of my opinion _______________________________________________________ ATUK French Wing - Fear the french touch Thanks to our enemies, they made us strong.
SibSpi	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:43:00 - [20] Edited by: SibSpi on 26/01/2006 14:42:59 Your missing a couple kill mails your side, 1BS and a couple AF's. RA Killboard
Gungankllr	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:44:00 - [21] Edited by: Gungankllr on 26/01/2006 14:45:07 meh.
Terradoct	Posted - 2006.01.26 14:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Shin Ra Konora, Metropolis - Thursday One week ago, BURN EDEN declared war on RA and SNU. I said excatly what we were going to do: Kill them some, then stop. These results are from Monday 16th of January to Wednesday 25th January, a total of 10 days. The empire war was active from 22:00 on Thursday 19th January. Ship classKL Assault frigate111 Battlecruiser120 Battleship483 Capsule 621 Covert ops50 Cruiser 360 Destroyer40 Frigate 442 Heavy assault11 Industrial330 Interceptor80 Interdictor00 Logistics00 Mining barge12 0 Noobship150 Shuttle 160 Transport20 Total 309 8 BURN EDEN would like to thank the pilots of Shadow Company for the fun we had this past week. They were truly instemental in this battle. We would also like to thank JOgden from Reddish Bears for his delivery of 196k mega and 193k Zydrine in his unescorted indy with no stabs . Please check out our Recruitment Thread if you would like to get in on the action. Loot is in the process of being sold. Estimates are currently set at 3-4 billion isk. I will leave you to digest this information along with some quotes from people who made comments about us during this war: [SNRA] -lv- PsyBlade : "I see that Burn Eden got spanked by RA" [FNZ] Pa1nbringer: "burn eden is so scary" [MASS] SA Dantes Inferno: "has any one actualy seen them since RMR? (BE i mean)" [Noob alt] Zooish: "Didn't realize that Burn Eden had to corrage to undock yet with the Sensor Dampner change in RMR." [BEC] BOB Rohann: "So Shin Ra your guys have died alot huh?" [5] ATUK Smith: "I can only assume you are bored or you cant fly in EvE anymore because your setups are gimped. Am I correct on either of these assumptions?" Shin Ra BURN EDEN My gf **** are still bigger that yours, so try harder
Archonon	Posted - 2006.01.26 15:37:00 - [23] The forum, the only place where BE don't run ... _______________________ XIII's member in local and all docked in Curse XIII's fleet around -V-'s dread and they called for Blob-jamming-Backup
Gralgathor	Posted - 2006.01.26 16:06:00 - [24] w00t, Psyblade got quoted! 1 week in Shinra and he's already considered worthy enough to serve as quote material. I'm gonna rub his face in it when he gets home. :P -----------------
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.01.26 16:27:00 - [25] 48 battleships ? We killed more in e02 =) Still very nice stats. Gratz. ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
Stratosfear	Posted - 2006.01.26 18:41:00 - [26] These numbers speak for themselves. The most efficient gank-o-pirate corp in eve.
Fargas	Posted - 2006.01.26 18:41:00 - [27] i think if you remove kills like this one (mixed be/v/shado gang ) there will be left not so many kills. So, you can tell all this crap in your corp chat. 3 lost battleships. ha ha i personally killed 2 when i logged in one evening for an hour.
Nics	Posted - 2006.01.26 18:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Stratosfear These numbers speak for themselves. The most efficient gank-o-pirate corp in eve.
Graalum	Posted - 2006.01.26 19:09:00 - [29] and despite all these kills, you somehow managed to never get me, which is amazing since i went through there at least ten times in this span, and especially since i'm basically a free kill. Anyways, congratualations, you seem to have the system down pretty well. Hopefully [Blue] tears you a new one.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.01.26 20:00:00 - [30] Nice stats
Stratosfear	Posted - 2006.01.26 20:06:00 - [31] Originally by: Graalum Hopefully [Blue] tears you a new one. I am open to taking bets against that. Even with mercenary help, it's hard to tear em anything. At best you can deny them kills, just eve mechanics.
Selena Sellion	Posted - 2006.01.26 20:19:00 - [32] Originally by: Stratosfear Originally by: Graalum Hopefully [Blue] tears you a new one. I am open to taking bets against that. Even with mercenary help, it's hard to tear em anything. At best you can deny them kills, just eve mechanics. You need to join BE before your tongue gets stuck.
Vodalus	Posted - 2006.01.26 21:53:00 - [33] Originally by: Stratosfear Originally by: Graalum Hopefully [Blue] tears you a new one. I am open to taking bets against that. Even with mercenary help, it's hard to tear em anything. At best you can deny them kills, just eve mechanics. I've been watching them fight with BB for a couple days, and I gotta agree with you there. They are definitely getting the non-attentive miner/industrial/neutral and as long as the BB pilots aren't paying attention they are going to continue to get kills. Catching them is another matter entirely, probably need a good number of covert ops ships to get the jump on them. Classic hit-and-run guerilla warfare is going to be hard to stop, especially in that system with all that traffic. -------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Oveur EVE is primarily a PVP game
Stratosfear	Posted - 2006.01.26 22:43:00 - [34] Originally by: Selena Sellion Originally by: Stratosfear Originally by: Graalum Hopefully [Blue] tears you a new one. I am open to taking bets against that. Even with mercenary help, it's hard to tear em anything. At best you can deny them kills, just eve mechanics. You need to join BE before your tongue gets stuck. And you need to get a main.
MrMorph	Posted - 2006.01.26 22:44:00 - [35] I should but BE posts on my gastank, cause it flames better than gasoline. ----------------------------------------------
Yakti	Posted - 2006.01.27 00:29:00 - [36] Great numbers, to bad they are ... slightly not the correct situation apparently
SATAN	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:24:00 - [37] Originally by: Graalum and despite all these kills, you somehow managed to never get me, which is amazing since i went through there at least ten times in this span, and especially since i'm basically a free kill. Anyways, congratualations, you seem to have the system down pretty well. Hopefully [Blue] tears you a new one. Out of all the alliances/corps/pvpr's whatever in this game we have fought and slaughtered I am highly doubtfull these macro warpers are going to do anything but die. They may get a kill here and there on some of our "newer" members, but eventualy they will just stop undocking like everyone else.
SATAN	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:26:00 - [38] Originally by: Yakti Great numbers, to bad they are ... slightly not the correct situation apparently Not sure what you mean by that? We ganked/fought fleets and even had some even number fights with RA. I can honestly say that not one engagement was lost, even when we were severly outnumbered.
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2006.01.27 05:00:00 - [39] Originally by: SATAN Out of all the alliances/corps/pvpr's whatever in this game we have fought and slaughtered I am highly doubtfull these macro warpers are going to do anything but die. pardon me, but what does the highlighted text mean? What is a macro warp exactly? ---------------------- Originally by: Seleene I maintain that OZ is evil and have nothing further to add.
Nybbas	Posted - 2006.01.27 05:21:00 - [40] Dude, i think he just called you chinese...
Burzhuj	Posted - 2006.01.27 08:40:00 - [41] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Yakti Great numbers, to bad they are ... slightly not the correct situation apparently Not sure what you mean by that? We ganked/fought fleets and even had some even number fights with RA. I can honestly say that not one engagement was lost, even when we were severly outnumbered. Your count kills like this right? Your`s kill-ratio just forum propoganda.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.01.27 11:19:00 - [42] Originally by: Omber Zombie Originally by: SATAN Out of all the alliances/corps/pvpr's whatever in this game we have fought and slaughtered I am highly doubtfull these macro warpers are going to do anything but die. pardon me, but what does the highlighted text mean? What is a macro warp exactly? A macro Warper is a name we have given your members. When we were killing your fleet it seemed they were not fighting back just waping from gate to gate to gate endless warping around. Thus we have given you a pet name Macro warpers because we thought u were AFK macro warping from gate to gate. What have we killed today - Burn Eden Kill Board
Pastora	Posted - 2006.01.27 11:23:00 - [43] Originally by: Burzhuj Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Yakti Great numbers, to bad they are ... slightly not the correct situation apparently Not sure what you mean by that? We ganked/fought fleets and even had some even number fights with RA. I can honestly say that not one engagement was lost, even when we were severly outnumbered. Your count kills like this right? Your`s kill-ratio just forum propoganda. Yes, they do. Those numbers above include all their involvements (even if there was only 1 BE frig, and 5+ -V- battleships) in taking part in killing RA, SNU, and tons of independent pilots, and those numbers miss at least half of their losses. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
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Rabb Darktide	Posted - 2006.01.27 11:58:00 - [45] Now now, to be fair, there were 2 BE listed on that kill mail, along with the 7 others.. Actually, since there were 2 BE in on that kill, they probably counted it twice... Rabb Darktide The opinons expressed are my own.. Not CWRA's or RA's.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.01.27 12:30:00 - [46] These numbers mean nothing. RED is an alliance and have 1469 members while UDIE have have 16. So its kinda obvious that RED would lose more then UDIE. RED im sure can afford these losses while UDIE would have not, so... CAREFACE "We brake for nobody"
Flashheart	Posted - 2006.01.27 13:24:00 - [47] RA 309 losses 1532 members 0.2 ships lost per member BE 8 losses 16 members 0.5 ships lost per member I'd say you lost, 2.5 to 1 Better luck next time.
Heinky	Posted - 2006.01.27 13:30:00 - [48] Originally by: Flashheart RA 309 losses 1532 members 0.2 ships lost per member BE 8 losses 16 members 0.5 ships lost per member I'd say you lost, 2.5 to 1 Better luck next time. LOL very stupied calculation. How about: 309 losses: few billion isk 8 losses : few mill isk who wins ? I can tell u from expiriance that beeing in burn eden makes u a billioner so u dont have to worry about losses.
Flashheart	Posted - 2006.01.27 13:32:00 - [49] You're right, it is extremely stupid to judge a conflict on raw numbers alone... Without some situational data to support it it's completely meaningless, as was the opening post.
Omeega	Posted - 2006.01.27 13:38:00 - [50] Originally by: Heinky Originally by: Flashheart RA 309 losses 1532 members 0.2 ships lost per member BE 8 losses 16 members 0.5 ships lost per member I'd say you lost, 2.5 to 1 Better luck next time. LOL very stupied calculation. How about: 309 losses: few billion isk 8 losses : few mill isk who wins ? I can tell u from expiriance that beeing in burn eden makes u a billioner so u dont have to worry about losses. very stupid calculation. RA income/day = BE income/month Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.01.27 13:38:00 - [51] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock These numbers mean nothing. RED is an alliance and have 1469 members while UDIE have have 16. So its kinda obvious that RED would lose more then UDIE. RED im sure can afford these losses while UDIE would have not, so... CAREFACE I think that ICE BLOCK has finnaly gone to your head. the 1 kill on the hauler lotted us over 1 billion ISK so how do you figure What have we killed today - Burn Eden Kill Board
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.01.27 13:40:00 - [52] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Burzhuj Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Yakti Great numbers, to bad they are ... slightly not the correct situation apparently Not sure what you mean by that? We ganked/fought fleets and even had some even number fights with RA. I can honestly say that not one engagement was lost, even when we were severly outnumbered. Your count kills like this right? Your`s kill-ratio just forum propoganda. Yes, they do. Those numbers above include all their involvements (even if there was only 1 BE frig, and 5+ -V- battleships) in taking part in killing RA, SNU, and tons of independent pilots, and those numbers miss at least half of their losses. WOW if you indeed managed to see mails like this on our forums then you must have look through everyone. their are only 4 kill mails that are on our kill boards where the allied forces outnumbered Burnedens on isk to ship... Would you expect us not to post kill mails if it has allies on it????? I hope not to see any kill mails where RAT is on it with Red alliance as from what you are trying to say is that they do not count. What have we killed today - Burn Eden Kill Board
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.01.27 13:50:00 - [53] Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: Admiral IceBlock These numbers mean nothing. RED is an alliance and have 1469 members while UDIE have have 16. So its kinda obvious that RED would lose more then UDIE. RED im sure can afford these losses while UDIE would have not, so... CAREFACE I think that ICE BLOCK has finnaly gone to your head. the 1 kill on the hauler lotted us over 1 billion ISK so how do you figure OMG YOUR SO SPECIAL! "We brake for nobody"
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.01.27 13:52:00 - [54] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Originally by: thedragoon Originally by: Admiral IceBlock These numbers mean nothing. RED is an alliance and have 1469 members while UDIE have have 16. So its kinda obvious that RED would lose more then UDIE. RED im sure can afford these losses while UDIE would have not, so... CAREFACE I think that ICE BLOCK has finnaly gone to your head. the 1 kill on the hauler lotted us over 1 billion ISK so how do you figure OMG YOUR SO SPECIAL! gee thanks. What have we killed today - Burn Eden Kill Board
Naughtulus	Posted - 2006.01.27 22:41:00 - [55] Edited by: Naughtulus on 27/01/2006 22:41:35
alt 1	Posted - 2006.01.27 23:46:00 - [56] well, its kindave hard to take many losses when you dont really try to engage combat ships. not to say that they dont ever engage, just not any closer than 180 km. and w/ t2 precision cruise missles you line up almost instantly and have no fear from frigates. you can say these guys are very good at what they do, but you can also say what they do is kinda lame. jsut like posting with an alt. :-D
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.01.28 02:29:00 - [57] Fragm (long time ago) had allot of isk, remember killing 3 or 4 of his battleships in a day (first target ftw) He never ran dry, he's kinda like an NPC. Fear the Ibis of doom.
Nova Ivanova	Posted - 2006.01.28 04:22:00 - [58] Its good to see Shin Ra got a whole 11 kills this month in addition to making all these forum posts... Where does he get the time...
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.01.28 09:06:00 - [59] Originally by: Boonaki Fragm (long time ago) had allot of isk, remember killing 3 or 4 of his battleships in a day (first target ftw) He never ran dry, he's kinda like an NPC. I dont remember 4 i remember 2..... And i was allways primary I was leading the alliance and your were attacking it.... making me primary was celest apocs biggest mistake i had people transfering shields to me and while you got me you allways lost 2 for my 1 :) Being a multi billion air the scorp as my ship of choice at the time was no loss. :) What have we killed today - Burn Eden Kill Board
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.01.28 09:07:00 - [60] Originally by: Nova Ivanova Its good to see Shin Ra got a whole 11 kills this month in addition to making all these forum posts... Where does he get the time... Shhhhhhhhhhh you really have no clue if u start telling ppl that shinra gets no kills they might think his main is in burn eden as well What have we killed today - Burn Eden Kill Board
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.01.28 09:09:00 - [61] Originally by: Nova Ivanova Its good to see Shin Ra got a whole 11 kills this month in addition to making all these forum posts... Where does he get the time... You have your alts Trev, I have mine
Beringe	Posted - 2006.01.28 09:17:00 - [62] Originally by: Shin Ra You have your alts Trev, I have mine And can you stop FragM from posting three times in a row? He's making you look horribly stupid, you know. ------------------------------------------- My life is the end of being. The temporal, actual end of thought and soul.

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