All weekend in Ladister?

So many words, when things are simple.

FW is still a broken mechanic and as such makes some things constant, ergo:

- Squids will reach tier 3/4, with test tier 5 is not unlikely. Its the way pendulum swings atm and its the natural course of things with current mechanics. Funny thing is - Test will take credit for this success even tho they will have nothing or very little to do with it in reality.

- Test will go through pretty much the same process all the other nullsec entities joining fw did - further bleeding of members, red killboards. Once they realize how bad they are at solo/small gang, they will do the only thing they know - blob all the time and bore us to death with their idiotic local spam. Some of their members will become really good soloers/small gang fighters and will leave for greener pastures. I doubt Test will brake up due to losses since as all the non dreddit corps that really care about 'success' (however you define it) are likely already out of test anyway.

- Consequently your average test member won't earn as much as he was promised initially nor will he learn about small scale pvp as much as he could if he was to join 'normal' fw corps, hence test won't fully succeed on any of their stated goals. Naturally, they will never admit this.

- They will make at least one headline on TMC with a corp theft of fw stuff and/or hauler derp/gank.

- Pendulum will continue to swing until CCP decides to take another look at fw, so for quite a while.

Test will adapt and get better - as is true of anyone that comes to FW.

But win or lose the war zone, Test is going to bleed members. People are going to love this pvp and some of their best will stay.

No matter. This is some of the most constant and fun fighting I have seen. I'm personally glad they are here.

Thanks for the laugh. Let's analyze your post.

Caldari was stuck on T1 for a while, TEST joins, calmil gains 10% in a week. Totally unrelated though, that's just "the pendulum".

Mate, our killboard is always red. And we know that we're bad at small gang stuff. We have blobbed since our beginnings. We're not bleeding, we are in fact in the process of welcoming a certain calmil corps to DAWWW, our recruitment alliance. Seriously, you don't know anything about TEST.

We didn't promise anything. Our members know how much they can make, but it's up to them to do plexes and farm LP.

We make headlines on TMC about once a week, seems like you're not paying attention.

The pendulum again. What are you even talking about? Space magic?

To summarize, apart from hearing the "TEST is bad wololo" over and over again you actually don't know anything about us and our culture. Stop trying to compare us to your standard tryhard elite peeveepee corps, we are more like an autistic zombie hobo crashing other people's parties. Bad at this game, completely okay with welping and in for the fun.

Frecking forums ate my post.

Anyway, my points were:

- I care about your 'culture' as much as you care about mine, basically - I don't give a damn. Whatever helps you cope with your losses is fine by me. Keep in mind though - there's a difference at stating "we're bad" but actually being quite successful (e.g. Goons) and just plain being bad.

- You're using FW to draw some new blood. Good. Doesn't change what I said.

- Test's influence on sov mechanics is limited and will continue to be such. Sov is mainly dictated by farming alts, what you guys did help with is busting iHubs. Had you joined FW at the time when Minnie war zone was highly in Minnie hands, you wouldn't make any significant gains. From that perspective, your timing was perfect.

- Pendulum is a metaphor for FW mechanics atm. If you want to know what's wrong with them (I'm sure you don't) search the forums for explanations.

Dont judge TEST on their first weeks performance. Nobody here came to FW knowing all they do now. Lets look at the facts here. They may not be all that good at small gang PVP yet, but you cannot match their numbers if they come in force.

TACTICALLY: You will beat them. Corps like Qcats and JUSTK are filled with people who know FW and how to pilot... what to bring vs what.. ect. TEST will take a bit to learn.

STRATEGICALLY: There is no way anyone is going to stop them busting an ihub. If a system goes vulnerable, and they decide to drop in on it, good luck. Unless you can muster a force to pop cap ships.

If they dedicate themselves to winning in FW, I am pretty sure they will do it. As soon as they learn how to small gang more effectively, all those comments about the red killboard will be in vein.

STRATEGICALLY: There is no way anyone is going to stop them busting an ihub. If a system goes vulnerable, and they decide to drop in on it, good luck. Unless you can muster a force to pop cap ships.

it isn't that we don't think test can impact the warzone control, it is that we don't care about warzone control most of the time.

Ah the old ~~ DIDN'T WANT THAT WARZONE ANYWAY ~~ line

Ah the old ~~ DIDN'T WANT THAT WARZONE ANYWAY ~~ line

You overestimate how hard it is to kill TEST capitals. Not that we'd bother dropping caps on an ihub that has 1/10th of the HP as a nullsec sov structure.

But you're just as ridiculous as that guy defending ladistier because that's where the gallente president lives or something.