Originally by: Idara

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I would go...."WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

I never use stabs, only have them used against me. I'd be quite happy.

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Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi

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Honestly, if the only way someone would use a pvp battleship or HAC was to fit a rack of stabs, they're better off in a tech 1 cruiser.

For that matter, I'd love to see more people in cheap ships. It encourages people to fight more, and it gives less-skilled pvpers something to shoot for.

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Originally by: DarknessInc

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great another goddamn WCS whining thread.

SHUT UP about the WCS.

There in the game, their not going to be removed, their not going to be nerfed.

SO shut up about WCS, because yoou might as well go complain about Missiles being overpowered, or why not go complain and say Energy weapons shouldnt have unlimited ammo. Or hell, why dont u complain about all of us not being able to own an imperial Apoc.

Or why not we have it your way.

take away all modules, take away all the special faction ships, and we can just bump each other into hell!

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Originally by: Hamatitio

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They just need to ******* make them like every other ECM module.

Note: Each ship already has a listed Propulsion Strength. This strength is then pitted against a new variety of warp scramblers, Including:
Multispectral Scrambler: -2 to all (close range 7500)
[Race] Scrambler: -3 or 4 to the specific race to which it applies, -1 to the rest. Long range (20km)

We then take these, and use the same formula that is used to decide whether or not the target is scrambled.

Bump it back up to a 10-15 second duration, that shuts off when the damn ship is blown up.

Shuttles and pods wouuld have a strength of 1, allowing all scramblers to get them, and Freighters, would have a strength of 4, needing hte racial to effectively hold it in place, else it gives it a slight chance of escaping.

Now, this also opens the option for Tech2 Warp core stabs AND warp scramblers, along with a skill that increases the strength of these modules. Stabs would also become a +xx% to strength, with a slight stacking penalty...

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They just need to ******* make them like every other ECM module.

Note: Each ship already has a listed Propulsion Strength. This strength is then pitted against a new variety of warp scramblers, Including:
Multispectral Scrambler: -2 to all (close range 7500)
[Race] Scrambler: -3 or 4 to the specific race to which it applies, -1 to the rest. Long range (20km)

We then take these, and use the same formula that is used to decide whether or not the target is scrambled.

Bump it back up to a 10-15 second duration, that shuts off when the damn ship is blown up.

Shuttles and pods wouuld have a strength of 1, allowing all scramblers to get them, and Freighters, would have a strength of 4, needing hte racial to effectively hold it in place, else it gives it a slight chance of escaping.

Now, this also opens the option for Tech2 Warp core stabs AND warp scramblers, along with a skill that increases the strength of these modules. Stabs would also become a +xx% to strength, with a slight stacking penalty...

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Originally by: R31D

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If stabs were dropped from the game then the people who use them now would have a choice. PvP without stabs or give up EVE. I believe the majority would carry on without stabs - only a few would give up EVE because of it (the whiner tpyes)

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Originally by: Cade Morrigan

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Originally by: R31D

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If stabs were dropped from the game then the people who use them now would have a choice. PvP without stabs or give up EVE. I believe the majority would carry on without stabs - only a few would give up EVE because of it (the whiner tpyes)

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You ignore the masses in empire/lowsec trying not to get gate ganked while hauling.

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Originally by: Wrath Trihellion

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I don't know, but it seems to me that the only people who 8itch about warp core stabs are the people who try to kill people like UDIE. They are the ones who come out with like 50-1 odds and rerfuse to fight with any even odds. If they don't have the balls to come out even I don't see why stabs make a difference? Stabs are simply a mechanism that allows small and skilled PvP units to effectively engage HUGE numbers without getting scrambled by some noob in a BS. Its called a tackler you Noobs. Take a vigil and set it up, not for Uber dmg (lol) but maybe actually try using it for what it was designed for instead of griefing about people with stabs getting away from your gankgeddon. Come on people, whining about stabs is not the way, just get over it and maybe use your brains!

BTW FIX DAMPNERS TomB, you lazy sod. :)

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Originally by: Hamatitio

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Problem is, when people fit 5x WCS in lows, you need 5x the numbers in order to scramble them, else you are just wasting yoru time.

WCS encourage blobbing, plain and simple.

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Originally by: Wrath Trihellion

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I don't know about hens and eggs, but making excuses like, OMG they fly ravens with WCS, is just another way of saying "We suck so bad that we cant manage to put -3 on a target without all dying"

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Originally by: DarknessInc

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great another goddamn WCS whining thread.

SHUT UP about the WCS.

There in the game, their not going to be removed, their not going to be nerfed.

SO shut up about WCS, because yoou might as well go complain about Missiles being overpowered, or why not go complain and say Energy weapons shouldnt have unlimited ammo. Or hell, why dont u complain about all of us not being able to own an imperial Apoc.

Or why not we have it your way.

take away all modules, take away all the special faction ships, and we can just bump each other into hell!

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So say stabs were changed so they could not be effectively used on an attack ship, do you believe everything else will stay the same?

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