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Grankor
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Posted - 2006.02.03 06:51:00 -
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i find it funny that noobs will call certain setups stupid.
I was flamed for using heavy missles on a BS. My prey was frigs, cruisers, and battle cruisers...The setup did wonderfully I have a LOT of kills with that setup (including a megathron and scorp).
So, I say to hell with the critics. Do what ya know.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.03 06:53:00 -
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I was flamed for using heavy missles on a BS.
Wow, I never even thought of that.. but that sounds brutal against cruiser/BC class. 
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Balklanac
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Posted - 2006.02.03 07:20:00 -
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Post anything like this in 'Ships & Modules' and the 'Ship Must Fiteh To Bonus Mafia' will pour napalm down your throat.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.03 07:23:00 -
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Already posted both setups in the S&M forum and people have -tried- to flame, but failed.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=289086
The only bonus amarr generally get (save omen and geddon) are capacitor reduction bonuses. If I plant on guns that don't use capacitor anyway, I've outdone the ship's bonus 
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2006.02.03 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Originally by: Pikmus
can you actuly kill anything with setup like this?..
Normally I don't care about killboards, but if it comes down to proving my confidence in a setup, here are the examples of kills made with that setup. Note, kills, I don't keep logs on the ransoms that occur using the same setup.
Retreiver
Retreiver
Stabber
Arbitrator
Stabber
Rupture
Pod
Omen
Pod
Punisher
Pod
Kestrel
Caracal
Ok just checked those killmails, but to be honest I don't see why they prove the superiority of you Punisher setup.
Most of the bigger kills you made were in gangs with other ships on the killmail, and the stabber appearently didn't even had a fitting on.
The only 'respectable' kill is the Caracal, but on a AB frig, with lasers, you can take down a lot of the Caracals out there, except the few that really have good skills in it and can hit you decently with heavies (or if it has assault launchers, then your toast as well).
I wonder how your setup fares against for instance a neutron blaster tristan or merlin. Especially if it's using some named items. Not good I'm afraid.
As for a destroyer killing a frigate: duh! That's what they are meant to do!
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Kelron Queldine
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Posted - 2006.02.03 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Grankor
i find it funny that noobs will call certain setups stupid.
I was flamed for using heavy missles on a BS. My prey was frigs, cruisers, and battle cruisers...The setup did wonderfully I have a LOT of kills with that setup (including a megathron and scorp).
So, I say to hell with the critics. Do what ya know.
Like the other day I was getting smacktalked because my Moa wasn't tanked enough to fight a Prophecy that wanted me to give him a 1 vs 1. Okay, I'm sure I could get a pretty good tank with a Moa, but I use it for killing other cruisers, and my setup is great for that. If I wanted to fight Bcs with it, it would be a bad setup. But I don't and it isn't.
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Guillight BLue
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Posted - 2006.02.03 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: Guillight BLue on 03/02/2006 12:29:13
No one should judge anyone's setup just because he thinks it wouldn't work for himself/herself!
There is NO ideal setup! As a setup that works ideal for one person, can be useless for the other!
What matters is that you have the right(enough) skills for the setup you're using and more important that you believe in your setup! That's what makes a setup work!
As for the Catalyst! It's one of the best anti-frigate destroyers out there! Primary role to pop frigates! So it isn't such a surprise the catalyst popped him ;)
I agree its better to be fitted against cruisers/BS then against a Cat! What are the chances to run into a Cat?? Far less then a cruiser / BS!
greetz
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Nazzerin
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Pikmus
Originally by: Jarek Naumen
Originally by: Buraken v2
What is this super punisher setup you are running anyway? :) got me curious
Originally by: Malka Badi'a
I'm sure someone will ask, so here is the setup I used and a brief reason why. Don't argue. I don't care.
2xMedium pulse laser
1xDual-light pulse laser
1xsmall nos
1x1mn AB
1xwarp scrambler
1xsmall armor rep
3xcapacitor power relay
can you actuly kill anything with setup like this?..
Why 3 cpr's?
You got a nos onboard, should be more then enought to substain that tank of yours.
And o/c the punisher got loads of base cap and with skills u get it up to around 400.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.03 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 03/02/2006 16:30:08
Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 03/02/2006 16:29:04
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Why 3 cpr's?
You got a nos onboard, should be more then enought to substain that tank of yours.
And o/c the punisher got loads of base cap and with skills u get it up to around 400.
Because I need to be able to sustain everything at 45-50% that way when a medium nos hits me I can still sustain everything at 38-39%. Beating a medium nos is one of the most important things about that setup, because of how commonly faced against them you are. Quote:
The only 'respectable' kill is the Caracal, but on a AB frig, with lasers, you can take down a lot of the Caracals out there, except the few that really have good skills in it and can hit you decently with heavies (or if it has assault launchers, then your toast as well).
That is because a good majority of my victims were ransoms. I don't keep record of ransoms, do you? Quote:
I wonder how your setup fares against for instance a neutron blaster tristan or merlin. Especially if it's using some named items. Not good I'm afraid.
It would fare horrible since it is meant for anti-cruiser combat and not anti-frigate. Shame on you  And to hell with all of you, really now. Say whatever you want about the setup, it's proven time and time against even heavily armed victims that it pulls through against the majority of anti-frigate defenses. That is what should matter, that it works, not that you think multiple modules are dumb.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.03 16:32:00 -
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Look, if you want to argue my punisher setups, go to the threads. Stop derailing every single post I make about a punisher setup everyone hates, refuses to try, but continues to work.
Punisher - Bleeder design
Punisher - Bleeder design Experimental
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salerie
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Posted - 2006.02.03 20:01:00 -
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where do u like to pirate mostly m8
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sgt spike
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Posted - 2006.02.04 00:04:00 -
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if i had known malka had such a large bounty on his head i woulda gone lookin 4 the noob in my CRUISER :P
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.04 00:45:00 -
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if i had known malka had such a large bounty on his head i woulda gone lookin 4 the noob in my CRUISER :P
You would go after a frigate specifically meant to engage or escape from cruisers? 
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Chuck Al'Hashib
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Posted - 2006.02.04 03:49:00 -
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I believe I understand your strategy vs cruisers in that setup to be zipping in close and orbiting faster than track speed, while tanking drones. I know pirating is 90% picking the fight, but can it be used against a 1600mm plate tanked/small gun Rax with MWD, med nos and a webber? If the guy has neutrons fitted I can see trying to stay past falloff (possible when webbed vs mwd?) But against rails I'm scratching my head - one mwd pulse and pop. 
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.04 03:54:00 -
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No, it won't work against that rax. I'm not even sure why it would?
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Nagal
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Posted - 2006.02.04 04:14:00 -
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Wow im confused, how did you manage to get a 44 million bounty on your head? Most pirates who fry the big fish don't get that. Who did you **** off?
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.04 04:39:00 -
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I have a few ideas, but no true way to tell who put it on me (we need that feature CCP). I know a lot of anti-pirate corporations are unhappy with me because I've been discovering their areas and sending pirates nearbye. I know that a lot of people are unhappy with me because I've used math and facts in front of their arguments on the forum, making them look bad. I've blown up quite a few people, but never enough to warrant a 44m lump sum.
I can only assume it came from a plethora of people. It wasn't an immediate 44m, but a gradual 200k, 1m, 15m, 19m, and then eventually 44m.
At least we know the system works and the anti-pirate was paid? 
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Nagal
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Posted - 2006.02.04 04:54:00 -
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Pfffft, I would've gladly podded you and split the bounty.
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sgt spike
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Posted - 2006.02.04 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
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if i had known malka had such a large bounty on his head i woulda gone lookin 4 the noob in my CRUISER :P
You would go after a frigate specifically meant to engage or escape from cruisers?
if you were piloting it in space ... yeah no problem ive seen your killmails (i use the same killboard)
on the forums.... not so sure, yer a big talker
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.02.04 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: KilROCK on 04/02/2006 11:17:47
Good thing done.
And about the punisher setup being any good, well. It's all new players belt ratting, bad setups or Gangbanging with a few frigates.
The setup is effective sure, but i wouldn't call it 'good'. It's 'good' because the opponent are crap.
And oh, The bounty.
You either have implants or you'd freaking pod yourself for that bounty. Is there something moral about keeping it? Must be some 'twisted' reason, RP sided..
Hail Ammo - Remove Speed penality!
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.04 13:51:00 -
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Good thing done. And about the punisher setup being any good, well. It's all new players belt ratting, bad setups or Gangbanging with a few frigates.
Sure thing. Because you've seen all my ransoms, right? Oh wait, those aren't recorded so you wouldn't have the slightest idea. Assuming makes an ass out of you and, well, you. Quote:
The setup is effective sure, but i wouldn't call it 'good'. It's 'good' because the opponent are crap.
More assumptions, no first hand experience in how my setup works. Quote:
And oh, The bounty.You either have implants or you'd freaking pod yourself for that bounty. Is there something moral about keeping it? Must be some 'twisted' reason, RP sided..
No implants, it's pointless. But I won't abuse the system and suck the 44m out of my podkill. After it was placed on I eventualyl decided to leave it, encouraging bounty hunters to play, to adapt, and to engage. If someone fought a decent battle and popped me, they earned it. No sick RP involved, just enjoying an aspect of the game mechanics.
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Crucifier
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Posted - 2006.02.04 14:01:00 -
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How does a nub like malka get 44mil bounty withut putting it on himself  |
Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.04 14:13:00 -
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Okay, I'm going to step away from this entire thread. People want to call me a "noob"? That's fine. I'll continue to kill, slaughter, maim, and murder and the question of "omfg ur setup sux do u?" and "omfg how did lol u get that bounti nooblet?" will remain forever hidden because of the general lack of intelligence and inability to think outside the box on tactical ship configurations.
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sgt spike
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Posted - 2006.02.04 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Okay, I'm going to step away from this entire thread. People want to call me a "noob"? That's fine. I'll continue to kill, slaughter, maim, and murder and the question of "omfg ur setup sux do u?" and "omfg how did lol u get that bounti nooblet?" will remain forever hidden because of the general lack of intelligence and inability to think outside the box on tactical ship configurations.
malka you are the best forum warrior i have ever seen and i mean that from the bottom of my heart
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Nagal
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Posted - 2006.02.04 16:00:00 -
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Malka, keep doin your thing, hopefully you'll get another bounty then I'll come find you.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.02.04 22:15:00 -
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Sure thing. Because you've seen all my ransoms, right? Oh wait, those aren't recorded so you wouldn't have the slightest idea. Assuming makes an ass out of you and, well, you.
Why do i care if you ransomed X ammount of players for X ammount of isk.
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More assumptions, no first hand experience in how my setup works.
Assumptions? Wow, How can you be so stupid sometimes?
It's a fairly simple setup to hold cap to run everything on autorepeat. It survives nos. You can keep most things on autorepeat. It's bassicly fitted like a Crusader for long range and tackling.
There's nothing 'real hard' to understand about the setup.
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No implants, it's pointless. But I won't abuse the system and suck the 44m out of my podkill. After it was placed on I eventualyl decided to leave it, encouraging bounty hunters to play, to adapt, and to engage. If someone fought a decent battle and popped me, they earned it. No sick RP involved, just enjoying an aspect of the game mechanics. A lot more people will risk engaging me with that bounty than if I had no bounty.
Well, That makes sense. But Abusing game mechanics. Everyone does that, I wouldn't stop myself from doing it.
All in All, You sure 'love' to fight on forums.
Writing me chapters of crap. Forum warriors 4tl.
Hail Ammo - Remove Speed penality!
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2006.02.05 02:15:00 -
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malka he is only saying that its really not all that hard to do what u do and just cause your setup works doesn't make it good. Im serious dude u put nothing on the line and you make isk off of it congradulation but killing people who dont know how to setup a ship isn't hard...
if the caracle pilot had trained target nav prediction lvl 5 and guided missile precision lvl 5 u would have been ****** no matter what kind of tank he had on... if he had t2 launchers with precision heavies you would have been ******...
the outcome of the battle really only depends on skills and obviously your targets didn't have much as far as ccp created skills and ship setup skills which takes time and experience...
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.05 02:22:00 -
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the outcome of the battle really only depends on skills and obviously your targets didn't have much as far as ccp created skills and ship setup skills which takes time and experience...
I didn't realise pirates were supposed to find the biggest, baddest, toughest PvPers and engage them. In fact, it would make more sense as a pirate (not a PvP warrior) to attack people who can not defend themselves. If I can engage and destroy people who were never prepared for my assault, skills, and ship loadout and still make more ISK than if I engaged someone specifically designed to eliminate my ship loadout, why even bother with the latter?
Profit. ISK. Fun. If those are not all met then I have no reason to engage. Sometimes this means larger numbers, sometimes this means a better ship, sometimes this means outsmarting them. But, we are not knights in shining armor, and have no reason to run headlong into a situation that offers certain death.
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