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mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2258
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:26:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say. I had thought the chain of causation went the other way, probably because of the order information was released. Capsuleers start pushing out of CONCORD's reach, dropping POCOs and the like, getting an upper hand on the empires. This spooks the pirate factions, who then try to carry out experiments to give them an edge over the capsuleers. We find these and this scares the hell out of CONCORD.
Maybe so. Key takeaway, though, is CONCORD going "No you can't have that" and capsuleers going "**** YOU DAD I'LL DO WHAT I WANT!"
Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Frying Doom
3376
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:30:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say.
Shouldn't that mean that CONCORD and the empires would scan for these contraband items on ships entering their space and confiscate them, just like drugs? Giving you a sec status hit as well?
People using these items would be criminals and should be free to be shot down for the non-traitorous pod pilots, CONCORD and the Empires.
Does any part of this story line include things for people who do not want to betray the empires?
Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Slarti
One Man and His Drake
4
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:31:00 -
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One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player |
Isis Dea
State Protectorate
Caldari State
351
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:31:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.
This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
It's a trailer lol. You don't like anything, do you?
I like the lore.
I loath how CONCORD is getting depicted more and more, from these live events to Rubicon.
I loath how we pave the way of the future with hidden armories of pirate nations, who are supposed to be poorer than the four nations and not nearly as technologically advanced. (Sure the Macharial was stolen tech from the Jove but nothing else up to this point in the lore has made any mention to the existing of this tech or "ghost" armories.)
Furthermore, do you HAVE to condemn the four empires with each subsequent expansion from here on out? Is that an excuse to stop writing about them? (When was, for example, the last time you hear anything from the Empress?)
Rubicon caters to the players. I got that. As a role-player, it's just grim to watch the entities of power you've come to love go to ****.
mynnna wrote:
Maybe so. Key takeaway, though, is CONCORD going "No you can't have that" and capsuleers going "**** YOU DAD I'LL DO WHAT I WANT!"
Something tells me you really don't know about the lore much. Which is scary considering you're supposed to be a CSM.
-_- |
Baaldor
In Igne Morim
Easily Excited
195
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:33:00 -
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Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player
Yes no handi-cap rails for the socially challenged.
NEED MOAR HAND RAILS IN TH E CRAPPER RIGHT NAO!!! |
Krixtal Icefluxor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
72067
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:34:00 -
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Karrl Tian wrote:So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew?
So, you are finally seeing the light as well........
Ghost sites as the main feature for a trailer and an expansion ?
This is a big patch....not an expansion. Just like Odyssey, just like Retribution, just like Inferno, just like Crucible.
I'm thinking it's time for a little break and see if something new is actually going on in a year or so.
When I told my Dad (in his 80's) about what was new in Odyssey when he asked I said "They have made the exploration both easy and stupid.....and they have changed the mineral content of Null Sec ores" he just wondered about what happened to all the exciting things I was talking about 3 years ago. Sigh.
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Garandras
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
32
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:35:00 -
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actually goiong to go youtube all of the trailers...
but yeah so far this and butterfly effect are my favorite |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
1844
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:35:00 -
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Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player
Wait, there is singleplayer in EVE? Where?
(edit: unless you literally mean players who are not married, in which case I don't understand your point.) |
Kasumi 'Goto
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:36:00 -
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The trailer was good but I think ccp has done better. my main issue with it is at the end. Why does the stratios which is an armor tanker have such a big issue with losing its shields ? |
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
106
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:36:00 -
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The way that the battleships warped in... Zzzzzip-stop-on-a-dime is that how warping will look now rather than the ssssssslowdown-to-a-crawl we have now?
If so, NICE!
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Rekkr Nordgard
The Ardency of Faith
Filthy Bastards
186
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:37:00 -
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And what about those of us who wish to remain loyalists to our chosen factions and don't want to participate in this arbitrary "rift" CCP has decided to impose on us? What options will CCP provide us with to interact with, incorporate into, and assist the empires? My guess is none; that we're going to be forced to watch as the Eve lore is punted and highsec gets turned into little nullsec. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
613
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:38:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew? This is a big patch....not an expansion. Just like Odyssey, just like Retribution, just like Inferno, just like Crucible.
Yeah, but any of those "patches" were easily better than incarna, tyrannis, or dominion. |
Isis Dea
State Protectorate
Caldari State
351
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:38:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player Wait, there is singleplayer in EVE? Where?
I think he means individual recognition for putting stock in the four empires, or CONCORD for that matter.
Nope, they've got to all turn into stereotypical pointless antagonists for the sake of more internet spaceshipsGǪ |
Jaro Essa
Dahkur Forge
1
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:38:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
Who's to say that the interface the pod provides doesn't consist of a representation of the pilot's body and a synthetic environment as well as the interface itself?
Maybe it feels like you are, say, sitting in a chair at a desk, with the interface displayed in front of you, and you can manipulate that interface to fly the ship. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2512
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:40:00 -
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Crash Lander wrote:Nice timing with the release of X-rebirth. One could almost say it is a coincidence 
Yes, and right when CCP decided to launch their expansion two weeks earlier than usual and the same day as X-Rebirth will be released in the USA.
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mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2258
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:44:00 -
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Isis Dea wrote:
Something tells me you really don't know about the lore much. Which is scary considering you're supposed to be a CSM.
-_-
um
lol
pretty sure being a lore expert isn't a requirement, soz bro.
Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5460
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:47:00 -
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...or perhaps the big deals are the deployables and warp speed changes? With, content-wise, Ghost Sites and SOE ships being the thing?
It's just that Ghost Sites are the most relevant to the story in the immediate sense, while the rest tie into the longer-term narrative.
Also; Isis Dea; one could say, for instance, that the neural interface in some cases uses a simulated body experience (massively accelerated) to prevent mindlock, by preserving the person's ego or self as they interface with the ship. Either way, the 'pod' scenes we see are clearly simulated.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2512
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:50:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say. Shouldn't that mean that CONCORD and the empires would scan for these contraband items on ships entering their space and confiscate them, just like drugs? Giving you a sec status hit as well? People using these items would be criminals and should be free to be shot down for the non-traitorous pod pilots, CONCORD and the Empires. Does any part of this story line include things for people who do not want to betray the empires?
Yes. They're sent to a null slaughterhouse after 23 jumps of 10% Tidi so they learn to not bother CCP with what CCP doesn't wants to deliver. 
Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player
Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. -Matthew 13:12
The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians
Fidelas Constans
145
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:51:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player Wait, there is singleplayer in EVE? Where? (edit: unless you literally mean players who are not married, in which case I don't understand your point.)
Maybe we're just wrong and have been playing the game not as intended?
Who would have known that a Massive Multiplayer Online Game was mainly meant to play alone? |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
613
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:52:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. -Matthew 13:12
An RP'er and and an internet spaceships bible thumper......oh dear. Do you also Larp? |
andy Achasse
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
13
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:54:00 -
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Why was the Guy in the new SOE ship complaining about his shields being down when clearly the ships are meant to have an armor tank. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
72067
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:00:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew? This is a big patch....not an expansion. Just like Odyssey, just like Retribution, just like Inferno, just like Crucible. Yeah, but any of those "patches" were easily better than incarna, tyrannis, or dominion.
Tyrannis at least had PI....a rather major mechanic most indeed.
I'm not judging quality at all. I'm judging actual new content as present or not.
These last 5 I listed above just add a ship or two here and there, and change the mechanics of how things already extant in the game are done.
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2512
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:01:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. -Matthew 13:12
An RP'er and and an internet spaceships bible thumper......oh dear. Do you also Larp?
No, the LARP player is CCP Seagull. How has she ended developing a plan that involves moar-nullsec-for-the-masses with null RP nor avatar content it's a mistery to me.
But then, CCP is one funny place.
The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
775
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:02:00 -
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Dramiels not outrunning the stratios? wot.
Decent trailer all in all but it definitley feels like the dudes who blessed us with the small laser raven splash took part in its creation.
Semi-related: Whoever fit the proteus used in the livestream brought new insight on how one could fit one. Laser proteus clearly 2stronk...
wumbo |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5460
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:09:00 -
[85] - Quote
Laser Proteus troll obvious troll?
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |
Anomaly One
26
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:10:00 -
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nice trailer fits well with the them of rubicon, can't wait!
*~~*running my own mission and have some class bully run up and blow me up because they think its funny, then give the excuses that I was just firing fireworks at you*~~* |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
100
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:15:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.
This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
Xenocracy Chronicle wrote:When an image finally appeared, it caught the administrator off guard. The capsuleer was clearly of Amarr descent, with high cheekbones and a clean-shaven scalp, but beyond the most obvious features, little of his face could be discerned. Most of his head was obscured by cybernetic implants: curved, metallic attachments that spread around his skull at every angle, completely concealing his eyes, nose, and mouth. Power and information cables stretched from each implant to somewhere off camera on either side, making it seem like he was suspended in a spider web instead of seated comfortably in a starship in orbit high above the planet.
It was only a simulacrum, an image that this person chose to portray of themselves, but it thoroughly unnerved Yvesk.
Do you even read the Chronicles?
"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for."
-CCP Wrangler |
Dato Koppla
Retribution Innovations
359
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:16:00 -
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Wow the scene where the sentry drones popped out of the ship and fired was amazing. |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5460
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:23:00 -
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Yeah. Theme-wise--
Well. The issue I have is that the empires are now basically ineffectually flailing their arms, going, "No! No! Nooo! :( " and not really trying to achieve anything. Remember Crielere, and the events/news that tied in with Crielere?
It'd be nifty to have more technology-driving events, or plot-driving events -- which is to say, systems developed by CCP, but with certain in-game activities that need to be performed to unlock access. I suspect, actually, that there are some developments of this type in WH space that CCP still hasn't revealed.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |
Nicen Jehr
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
282
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:25:00 -
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So the CONCORD guy is like 'Stay the f* out, there will be consequences.' But the only consequences are the pirates' response, there are no consequences from the empires.
If you really are aiming to sow dissension between capsuleers and the empires, you should grant a suspect flag to all capsuleers on grid when a ghost site explodes in empire space. CONCORD's sensor arrays (presumably the same ones that keep Local running) would notice the energy anomaly and punish the capsuleer for disobeying the mandate.
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