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Landrae
Sacred Templars Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.10.16 04:59:00 -
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Being a massive fan of Eve's Expansions trailers I have to ask. With Rubicon scheduled for release next month, when if at all are we going to get the Rubicon trailer? Welcome to Eve Online |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
13605
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Posted - 2013.10.16 05:01:00 -
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Good question, only CCP can answer that.
DMC |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2013.10.16 05:01:00 -
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Somebody asks this every expansion... Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |

Landrae
Sacred Templars Fatal Ascension
573
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Posted - 2013.10.16 05:05:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Somebody asks this every expansion...
I'm that somebody. ^^ Welcome to Eve Online |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
6257
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Posted - 2013.10.16 05:05:00 -
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I think weve all learned by now that we wont get an actual trailer, but something that I can only guess is barely passable as an Icelandic soap opera snippet.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Schmata Bastanold
The brothers inc Brothers Of The Dark Sun
1033
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Posted - 2013.10.16 07:04:00 -
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Like expansions, like trailers - shadows of what they supposed to be. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
90
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Posted - 2013.10.16 07:36:00 -
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Based on previous experience, it will be published on the day of expansion deployment, so you can watch it during the extended downtime. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic     |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
528
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Posted - 2013.10.16 07:50:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Based on previous experience, it will be published on the day of expansion deployment, so you can watch it during the extended downtime.
If only the trailers were that long. xD Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
545
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Posted - 2013.10.16 08:46:00 -
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I only hope it won't be something as easily forgettable as Odyssey trailer. |

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
568
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Posted - 2013.10.16 08:47:00 -
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Normally the day it's out and it's talks about a load of things that are not actually possible in the game.  Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |
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ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
2129
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Posted - 2013.10.16 10:27:00 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:I only hope it won't be something as easily forgettable as Odyssey trailer.
Odyssey had a trailer? Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1030
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Posted - 2013.10.16 10:45:00 -
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Just imagine it, it's easy .. it will be awesome looking fleets warping to each other, battling it out, closeups and dialogue that make you tingle and say YES! THAT'S AWESOME! Maybe there will be a scene showing a bounty hunter walking in a station looking for his mark and taking him out when he finds him and you'll e like OMG THAT'S SO COOL ....
... then the trailer ends and you return to spreadsheets online. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |

Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
90
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Posted - 2013.10.16 10:57:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:Just imagine it, it's easy .. it will be awesome looking fleets warping to each other, battling it out, closeups and dialogue that make you tingle and say YES! THAT'S AWESOME! Maybe there will be a scene showing a bounty hunter walking in a station looking for his mark and taking him out when he finds him and you'll e like OMG THAT'S SO COOL ....
... then the trailer ends and you return to spreadsheets online. "Future vision": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mlVuLs_Nw CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic     |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:43:00 -
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It's in the works... of course. 
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Team -á || -á EVE Illuminati -á || -á Live Events Organizer
@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents |
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Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1704
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Posted - 2013.10.16 13:34:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: It's coming soon(tm).
FTFY  One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1313
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Posted - 2013.10.16 15:59:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:One week after release 
Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!! Worm Rebalance!!! |

Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
90
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:22:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:One week after release  That would be fine, actually... since we're getting winter expansion in mid November anyway  CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic     |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1282
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:27:00 -
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------> Soon Gäó<----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
143
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:44:00 -
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Ever since the butterfly effect the trailers have become quite bad, please go back to the style of the simpler older ones.
fakedit: Odyssey trailer was OK |

Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
148
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:54:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:One week after release  That would be fine, actually... since we're getting winter expansion in mid November anyway  edit: In the meantime, you can watch a player made Rubicon trailer here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8Pk-Rq4W8 That player-made trailer is pretty good, actually. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
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Landrae
Sacred Templars Fatal Ascension
575
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:09:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:It's in the works... of course. 
Can it be released on Halloween and have a Halloween theme? Welcome to Eve Online |

Athelas Loraiel
StarFleet Enterprises Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:02:00 -
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oh, cmon.
The interview and twitch TV is over, and we didnt get our trailer...
WHAT else do we have to endure to get it on anf off? |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1844
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:03:00 -
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Let me be the first to say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHH_MHd0c94 |

Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
145
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:04:00 -
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That Drone deploy animation... |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5460
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:05:00 -
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That drone bay is totally the best part. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |

Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
11
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:07:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:That drone bay is totally the best part.
Certainly a part I enjoyed seeing in action quite a bit.  |

Krixtal Icefluxor
The Scope Gallente Federation
72067
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:09:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:That drone bay is totally the best part.
...and will not be seen or experienced in-game no matter how much one pays per month. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1844
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:16:00 -
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Personally, I didn't find it anywhere as impressive as some of the older trailers (Butterfly Effect, Dominion, ...) They show much better what EVE is about. The Rubicon one is just eye candy, and not that good at that. The purpose of older trailers was to attract more people (new and unsubscribed) to EVE. This one is just a showoff.
However, I get an eerie feeling that this is just a prelude to something big. I bet that the blueprints downloaded by the scanning ship are a bit of a spoiler for things to come. |
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CCP Falcon
4525

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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:20:00 -
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Edited the OP to include a link to the trailer 
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Team -á || -á EVE Illuminati
@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents |
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Prince Kobol
1146
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:22:00 -
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At about 1:15 I just thought.. damn I haven't watch Star Wars in ages |
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Intex Encapor
26
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:22:00 -
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so pod fluid is a thing of the past?
or just crative freedom in the trailer |

Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc Zero Hour Alliance
239
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:24:00 -
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Really cool trailer, much better than Odyssey's/Retribution; really wants me to play this game.
Sad thing is though, I can't fly my spaceship through big space structures, banking and turning to evade incoming fire or as posted above, see my drone bay up close. Make that an expansion please? |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7273
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:30:00 -
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OMFG! An actual trailer! Not an icelanding soap opera!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
536
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:32:00 -
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Why are they not bubbling pod goo thru their nostrils? Are there some kind of new implants that we don't know yet? Similar to the DUST players have? Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats. |

Evei Shard
Shard Industries
254
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:35:00 -
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Ignoring the connection to the game, that trailer is a work of art in itself. Taking the game into account, it's even better. The conceptualization of how drones are deployed is beautiful, even if it may never be something we see. Though personally I find the drone bays in our ships much too small to make sentry drones so expendable. The trailer would lead one to believe that they are as cheap and plentiful as ammo.
Seems a lot like pirate ships won't be the only ones we'll have to contend with at ghost sites. The empires are pretty fidgety as well it would appear.
The graphics/VFX/animation team did a great job. Profit favors the prepared |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
286
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:38:00 -
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Damn, nice trailer! Really gets the whole 'screw the empires' vibe going 
But yeah, what happened to our beloved pod goo? Is Walking in Ships a thing in development now? Huh? HUH?! (Of course it isn't, don't be silly...) My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

Prince Kobol
1146
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:41:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Ignoring the connection to the game, that trailer is a work of art in itself. Taking the game into account, it's even better. The conceptualization of how drones are deployed is beautiful, even if it may never be something we see. Though personally I find the drone bays in our ships much too small to make sentry drones so expendable. The trailer would lead one to believe that they are as cheap and plentiful as ammo.
Seems a lot like pirate ships won't be the only ones we'll have to contend with at ghost sites. The empires are pretty fidgety as well it would appear.
The graphics/VFX/animation team did a great job.
Whilst I would not disagree that it was a very well made video.. I still much prefer trailers which are made using actually in game footage, these for me have a much bigger impact.
As a person watching a trailer with the out look of maybe trying Eve, Trailers such as Crucible have a lot more impact as that is what you get when you play unlike this latest trailer where you will nothing like it when playing. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Daktaklakpak. Red Coat Conspiracy
2253
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:45:00 -
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I kind of cringed when I saw the characters talk. What happened? Where is the detail in the facial expressions and lip syncing? This feels like it could have just been...better. Previous videos have always had such a level of detail that it would just draw you in and you would think..."They could make a movie out of this!" I did not feel that way this time. Am I the only one? Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821 |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
286
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:48:00 -
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By the way, this is the second time the girl in the trailer gets her ass blown up (remember the 10 year anniversary trailer where she died in a frigate?). Can we make this a running gag in all trailers to come please?  My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

Evei Shard
Shard Industries
254
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:50:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote: Whilst I would not disagree that it was a very well made video.. I still much prefer trailers which are made using actually in game footage, these for me have a much bigger impact.
As a person watching a trailer with the out look of maybe trying Eve, Trailers such as Crucible have a lot more impact as that is what you get when you play unlike this latest trailer where you will nothing like it when playing.
True. It would be pretty amazing if we had some of the things portrayed in the video. The massive spaceports/cities that you could fly around and all that. Profit favors the prepared |
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2512
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:51:00 -
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I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.
This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
613
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:52:00 -
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Nice trailer. But imo the "causality," "butterfly effect," and dominion trailers where superior both in terms of impact (or "goosebumps") and in terms of accurately representing eve. This one is typical sci-fi fare with an Eve skin.
But nice trailer all the same. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3362
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:53:00 -
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I've been playing EVE too long, I'm setting the thinking "ouch, he's gonna have a hard time scooping those sentries" lol. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2512
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:53:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Prince Kobol wrote: Whilst I would not disagree that it was a very well made video.. I still much prefer trailers which are made using actually in game footage, these for me have a much bigger impact.
As a person watching a trailer with the out look of maybe trying Eve, Trailers such as Crucible have a lot more impact as that is what you get when you play unlike this latest trailer where you will nothing like it when playing.
True. It would be pretty amazing if we had some of the things portrayed in the video. The massive spaceports/cities that you could fly around and all that.
Maybe you're playing the wrong game... The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3362
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:54:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.
This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
It's a trailer lol.
You don't like anything, do you? |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2258
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:57:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.
This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
Did you notice that there appeared to be nothing but space behind them? Take a closer look, ask yourself how that can possibly be, then sit back and think if maybe there's another explanation. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
373
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:58:00 -
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I must say I prefer the old trailers that concentared fully on ships in space instead of the capsuleers themselves.
Still, it's a very visually pleasing trailer. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2512
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:58:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.
This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
It's a trailer lol. You don't like anything, do you?
I like my avatars.  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
613
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:59:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: It's a trailer lol.
You don't like anything, do you?
Many of the older Eve trailers were just sooo much better in terms of "goosebumps" though. CCP used to have some of the best trailers around tbh. This one seems to be standard trailer material (though not bad by any measure), but maybe I'm just bitter. |

Karrl Tian
Bourbon Bandits Anarchy.
251
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:02:00 -
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So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew? |
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
1213
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:03:00 -
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Suddenly, world in Rubicon trailer looks more like X-Rebirth gameplay rather than EVE. Yet another cake. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1181
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:04:00 -
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Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2258
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:06:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal.
We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Golgrim
Critical Degree
1
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:10:00 -
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i watched the Origins Trailer and the new Rubicon Trailer and the guy in the rubicon trailer who does the announcement is the same guy like in Origins
Have a look for yourself:
Rubicon Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHH_MHd0c94#t=0m30s
Origins Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZPCiqBLPM8#t=2m48s |

Crash Lander
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:17:00 -
[55] - Quote
Nice timing with the release of X-rebirth. One could almost say it is a coincidence  |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
2855
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:18:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:Suddenly, world in Rubicon trailer looks more like X-Rebirth gameplay rather than EVE. Yet another cake.
I like Cake. Zimmy Zeta -I f*cking love martinis.the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2247
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:19:00 -
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I think my favourite part was the sentry drone deployment. That looked awesome to me.
I was surprised by the female voice. I was expecting something tougher because of her look, like Michelle Rodriguez or similar.
Maybe I missed it, but I was really expecting to hear the low-shield klaxon as the guy got shot-up.
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
85
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:20:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Why are they not bubbling pod goo thru their nostrils? Are there some kind of new implants that we don't know yet? Similar to the DUST players have? They are. When you are in a pod there is no air in you. You lungs, esophagus, sinuses, and airway are full of fluid. So there is nothing to bubble, its all clear fluid. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
613
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:21:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say. No going back from...what exactly? Something I still don't get. We get some additional anchorable structures. K, cool. We get some additional anoms, and those new anoms give stuff to manufacture additional implants. K, cool.
Not trying to nitpick or criticize, but I've seen the "no going back" tossed around a lot by CCP and others, and it doesn't seem to have any in game relevance. So, does anyone know what no going back actual refers to in terms of game play or features? Or did CCP just decide to toss slogans at us? |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1181
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:23:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say.
I had thought the chain of causation went the other way, probably because of the order information was released.
Capsuleers start pushing out of CONCORD's reach, dropping POCOs and the like, getting an upper hand on the empires. This spooks the pirate factions, who then try to carry out experiments to give them an edge over the capsuleers. We find these and this scares the hell out of CONCORD. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2258
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:26:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say. I had thought the chain of causation went the other way, probably because of the order information was released. Capsuleers start pushing out of CONCORD's reach, dropping POCOs and the like, getting an upper hand on the empires. This spooks the pirate factions, who then try to carry out experiments to give them an edge over the capsuleers. We find these and this scares the hell out of CONCORD.
Maybe so. Key takeaway, though, is CONCORD going "No you can't have that" and capsuleers going "**** YOU DAD I'LL DO WHAT I WANT!" Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:30:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say. Shouldn't that mean that CONCORD and the empires would scan for these contraband items on ships entering their space and confiscate them, just like drugs? Giving you a sec status hit as well?
People using these items would be criminals and should be free to be shot down for the non-traitorous pod pilots, CONCORD and the Empires.
Does any part of this story line include things for people who do not want to betray the empires? Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Slarti
One Man and His Drake
4
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:31:00 -
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One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player |

Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
351
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:31:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.
This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
It's a trailer lol. You don't like anything, do you?
I like the lore.
I loath how CONCORD is getting depicted more and more, from these live events to Rubicon.
I loath how we pave the way of the future with hidden armories of pirate nations, who are supposed to be poorer than the four nations and not nearly as technologically advanced. (Sure the Macharial was stolen tech from the Jove but nothing else up to this point in the lore has made any mention to the existing of this tech or "ghost" armories.)
Furthermore, do you HAVE to condemn the four empires with each subsequent expansion from here on out? Is that an excuse to stop writing about them? (When was, for example, the last time you hear anything from the Empress?)
Rubicon caters to the players. I got that. As a role-player, it's just grim to watch the entities of power you've come to love go to ****.
mynnna wrote: Maybe so. Key takeaway, though, is CONCORD going "No you can't have that" and capsuleers going "**** YOU DAD I'LL DO WHAT I WANT!"
Something tells me you really don't know about the lore much. Which is scary considering you're supposed to be a CSM.
-_- |

Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
195
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:33:00 -
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Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player
Yes no handi-cap rails for the socially challenged.
NEED MOAR HAND RAILS IN TH E CRAPPER RIGHT NAO!!! |

Krixtal Icefluxor
The Scope Gallente Federation
72067
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:34:00 -
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Karrl Tian wrote:So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew?
So, you are finally seeing the light as well........
Ghost sites as the main feature for a trailer and an expansion ?
This is a big patch....not an expansion. Just like Odyssey, just like Retribution, just like Inferno, just like Crucible.
I'm thinking it's time for a little break and see if something new is actually going on in a year or so.
When I told my Dad (in his 80's) about what was new in Odyssey when he asked I said "They have made the exploration both easy and stupid.....and they have changed the mineral content of Null Sec ores" he just wondered about what happened to all the exciting things I was talking about 3 years ago. Sigh. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
32
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:35:00 -
[67] - Quote
actually goiong to go youtube all of the trailers...
but yeah so far this and butterfly effect are my favorite |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1844
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:35:00 -
[68] - Quote
Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player Wait, there is singleplayer in EVE? Where?
(edit: unless you literally mean players who are not married, in which case I don't understand your point.) |

Kasumi 'Goto
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:36:00 -
[69] - Quote
The trailer was good but I think ccp has done better. my main issue with it is at the end. Why does the stratios which is an armor tanker have such a big issue with losing its shields ? |

Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
106
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:36:00 -
[70] - Quote
The way that the battleships warped in... Zzzzzip-stop-on-a-dime is that how warping will look now rather than the ssssssslowdown-to-a-crawl we have now? If so, NICE!
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Rekkr Nordgard
The Ardency of Faith Filthy Bastards
186
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:37:00 -
[71] - Quote
And what about those of us who wish to remain loyalists to our chosen factions and don't want to participate in this arbitrary "rift" CCP has decided to impose on us? What options will CCP provide us with to interact with, incorporate into, and assist the empires? My guess is none; that we're going to be forced to watch as the Eve lore is punted and highsec gets turned into little nullsec. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
613
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:38:00 -
[72] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew? This is a big patch....not an expansion. Just like Odyssey, just like Retribution, just like Inferno, just like Crucible. Yeah, but any of those "patches" were easily better than incarna, tyrannis, or dominion. |

Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
351
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:38:00 -
[73] - Quote
Abdiel Kavash wrote:Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player Wait, there is singleplayer in EVE? Where?
I think he means individual recognition for putting stock in the four empires, or CONCORD for that matter.
Nope, they've got to all turn into stereotypical pointless antagonists for the sake of more internet spaceshipsGǪ |

Jaro Essa
Dahkur Forge
1
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:38:00 -
[74] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
Who's to say that the interface the pod provides doesn't consist of a representation of the pilot's body and a synthetic environment as well as the interface itself?
Maybe it feels like you are, say, sitting in a chair at a desk, with the interface displayed in front of you, and you can manipulate that interface to fly the ship. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2512
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:40:00 -
[75] - Quote
Crash Lander wrote:Nice timing with the release of X-rebirth. One could almost say it is a coincidence 
Yes, and right when CCP decided to launch their expansion two weeks earlier than usual and the same day as X-Rebirth will be released in the USA. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2258
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:44:00 -
[76] - Quote
Isis Dea wrote:
Something tells me you really don't know about the lore much. Which is scary considering you're supposed to be a CSM.
-_-
um
lol
pretty sure being a lore expert isn't a requirement, soz bro. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5460
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:47:00 -
[77] - Quote
...or perhaps the big deals are the deployables and warp speed changes? With, content-wise, Ghost Sites and SOE ships being the thing?
It's just that Ghost Sites are the most relevant to the story in the immediate sense, while the rest tie into the longer-term narrative.
Also; Isis Dea; one could say, for instance, that the neural interface in some cases uses a simulated body experience (massively accelerated) to prevent mindlock, by preserving the person's ego or self as they interface with the ship. Either way, the 'pod' scenes we see are clearly simulated. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2512
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:50:00 -
[78] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say. Shouldn't that mean that CONCORD and the empires would scan for these contraband items on ships entering their space and confiscate them, just like drugs? Giving you a sec status hit as well? People using these items would be criminals and should be free to be shot down for the non-traitorous pod pilots, CONCORD and the Empires. Does any part of this story line include things for people who do not want to betray the empires?
Yes. They're sent to a null slaughterhouse after 23 jumps of 10% Tidi so they learn to not bother CCP with what CCP doesn't wants to deliver. 
Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player
Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. -Matthew 13:12 The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
145
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:51:00 -
[79] - Quote
Abdiel Kavash wrote:Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player Wait, there is singleplayer in EVE? Where? (edit: unless you literally mean players who are not married, in which case I don't understand your point.) Maybe we're just wrong and have been playing the game not as intended?
Who would have known that a Massive Multiplayer Online Game was mainly meant to play alone? |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
613
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:52:00 -
[80] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. -Matthew 13:12
An RP'er and and an internet spaceships bible thumper......oh dear. Do you also Larp? |
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andy Achasse
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
13
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:54:00 -
[81] - Quote
Why was the Guy in the new SOE ship complaining about his shields being down when clearly the ships are meant to have an armor tank. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
The Scope Gallente Federation
72067
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:00:00 -
[82] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew? This is a big patch....not an expansion. Just like Odyssey, just like Retribution, just like Inferno, just like Crucible. Yeah, but any of those "patches" were easily better than incarna, tyrannis, or dominion.
Tyrannis at least had PI....a rather major mechanic most indeed.
I'm not judging quality at all. I'm judging actual new content as present or not.
These last 5 I listed above just add a ship or two here and there, and change the mechanics of how things already extant in the game are done. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2512
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:01:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. -Matthew 13:12
An RP'er and and an internet spaceships bible thumper......oh dear. Do you also Larp?
No, the LARP player is CCP Seagull. How has she ended developing a plan that involves moar-nullsec-for-the-masses with null RP nor avatar content it's a mistery to me.
But then, CCP is one funny place.  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
775
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:02:00 -
[84] - Quote
Dramiels not outrunning the stratios? wot.
Decent trailer all in all but it definitley feels like the dudes who blessed us with the small laser raven splash took part in its creation.
Semi-related: Whoever fit the proteus used in the livestream brought new insight on how one could fit one. Laser proteus clearly 2stronk... wumbo |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5460
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:09:00 -
[85] - Quote
Laser Proteus troll obvious troll? Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |

Anomaly One
26
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:10:00 -
[86] - Quote
nice trailer fits well with the them of rubicon, can't wait! *~~*running my own mission and have some class bully run up and blow me up because they think its funny, then give the excuses that I was just firing fireworks at you*~~* |

Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
100
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:15:00 -
[87] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.
This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
Xenocracy Chronicle wrote:When an image finally appeared, it caught the administrator off guard. The capsuleer was clearly of Amarr descent, with high cheekbones and a clean-shaven scalp, but beyond the most obvious features, little of his face could be discerned. Most of his head was obscured by cybernetic implants: curved, metallic attachments that spread around his skull at every angle, completely concealing his eyes, nose, and mouth. Power and information cables stretched from each implant to somewhere off camera on either side, making it seem like he was suspended in a spider web instead of seated comfortably in a starship in orbit high above the planet.
It was only a simulacrum, an image that this person chose to portray of themselves, but it thoroughly unnerved Yvesk.
Do you even read the Chronicles? "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler |

Dato Koppla
Retribution Innovations
359
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:16:00 -
[88] - Quote
Wow the scene where the sentry drones popped out of the ship and fired was amazing. |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5460
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:23:00 -
[89] - Quote
Yeah. Theme-wise--
Well. The issue I have is that the empires are now basically ineffectually flailing their arms, going, "No! No! Nooo! :( " and not really trying to achieve anything. Remember Crielere, and the events/news that tied in with Crielere?
It'd be nifty to have more technology-driving events, or plot-driving events -- which is to say, systems developed by CCP, but with certain in-game activities that need to be performed to unlock access. I suspect, actually, that there are some developments of this type in WH space that CCP still hasn't revealed.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |

Nicen Jehr
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
282
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:25:00 -
[90] - Quote
So the CONCORD guy is like 'Stay the f* out, there will be consequences.' But the only consequences are the pirates' response, there are no consequences from the empires.
If you really are aiming to sow dissension between capsuleers and the empires, you should grant a suspect flag to all capsuleers on grid when a ghost site explodes in empire space. CONCORD's sensor arrays (presumably the same ones that keep Local running) would notice the energy anomaly and punish the capsuleer for disobeying the mandate. Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
529
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:27:00 -
[91] - Quote
mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say.
That makes no sense at all, why wouldn't the empires want us to go and destroy pirate sites? Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
34
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:31:00 -
[92] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:So....ghost sites are out there and if you try to loot one it blows up in your face? Is this what comes after loot spew? This is a big patch....not an expansion. Just like Odyssey, just like Retribution, just like Inferno, just like Crucible. Yeah, but any of those "patches" were easily better than incarna, tyrannis, or dominion. Tyrannis at least had PI....a rather major mechanic most indeed. I'm not judging quality at all. I'm judging actual new content as present or not. These last 5 I listed above just add a ship or two here and there, and change the mechanics of how things already extant in the game are done.
- FW before the big fix was basically nonexistant - 5 out of 6 frigs per race before tiericide were basically nonexistant - the bounty system before the big fix was basically nonexistant - every industrial besides the iteron V were basically nonexistant - exploration was basically nonexistant, unless you used a T3 and stayed near your homebasem which is the opposite of exploring something - wardecs were absolutely crap, remember "dec shield" and crap like that - oh god, the old aggression mechanics.... edit: remembered another thing: the old inventory! I, too, really hated itsfirst version but now it is awesome I could go on and on and on.
If you really believe, keeping all thise ****** old systems in the game, ignoring them for further years instead of fixing them and then try to build some totally new things instead, which would most likely just become only half-finished and then ignored, I beg you to leave the game. I dont even want your stuff. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3329
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:38:00 -
[93] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote: No going back from...what exactly?
From Rubicon,of course.
Unless you time travel, you leave Odyssey behind forever.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5460
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:41:00 -
[94] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
That makes no sense at all, why wouldn't the empires want us to go and destroy pirate sites?
These sites are giving the first access to 'warp engineering technology' in the form of Ascendency implants.
We're heading toward player-generated wormholes/stargates/exploration&colonization. In a lore sense, letting Capsuleers run off into the darkness into Gods-know-what (what if the Sleepers are the least of our worries? What if there's worse out there, and it will start attacking?) without imperial control is terrifying.
Imagine, for instance, that corporations or non-profits were developing the ability to colonize the moon or even Mars-- in a permanent way. Wouldn't national governments go, "uh. No. Nonono. WE do it. Go away." Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
529
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:46:00 -
[95] - Quote
Rubicon is a patch, nothing more. They ****** up exploration with odyssey, now have to introduce ghost sites to fix it, ******* the lore up in the process. CCP has become a knee jerk reaction company trying to correct the stuff it did wrong before. Where has the quality planning and development gone. Makes me sad as CCP are starting to look like EA. Plus the new trailer looks like it should be in a star wars mmo.
Very sad that the greatest ever sci fi mmo has been reduced to penury in a desperate bid to beat an offline game by bringing the launch date forward to coincide with x-rebirth. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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CCP Falcon
4525

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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:50:00 -
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Intex Encapor wrote:so pod fluid is a thing of the past?
or just crative freedom in the trailer
The trailer gives a more artistic view that's easier for people to understand and paints an image of what the capsuleer sees in terms of a user interface. Pod fluid is still a thing, yes 
Hence the reason the capsuleers see stuff like "Warp Drive Active" across their HUD, the same as players do 
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
529
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:50:00 -
[97] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
That makes no sense at all, why wouldn't the empires want us to go and destroy pirate sites?
These sites are giving the first access to 'warp engineering technology' in the form of Ascendency implants. We're heading toward player-generated wormholes/stargates/exploration&colonization. In a lore sense, letting Capsuleers run off into the darkness into Gods-know-what (what if the Sleepers are the least of our worries? What if there's worse out there, and it will start attacking?) without imperial control is terrifying. Imagine, for instance, that corporations or non-profits were developing the ability to colonize the moon or even Mars-- in a permanent way. Wouldn't national governments go, "uh. No. Nonono. WE do it. Go away."
But why would they order us not to destroy pirate sites? It makes more sense for the empires to reward us for handing in any thing we might find. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3329
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:54:00 -
[98] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
That makes no sense at all, why wouldn't the empires want us to go and destroy pirate sites?
These sites are giving the first access to 'warp engineering technology' in the form of Ascendency implants. We're heading toward player-generated wormholes/stargates/exploration&colonization. In a lore sense, letting Capsuleers run off into the darkness into Gods-know-what (what if the Sleepers are the least of our worries? What if there's worse out there, and it will start attacking?) without imperial control is terrifying. Imagine, for instance, that corporations or non-profits were developing the ability to colonize the moon or even Mars-- in a permanent way. Wouldn't national governments go, "uh. No. Nonono. WE do it. Go away." But why would they order us not to destroy pirate sites? It makes more sense for the empires to reward us for handing in any thing we might find.
If you need to ask that then you need to take a basic poly-sci class coupled with a few history lessons.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
529
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:55:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Intex Encapor wrote:so pod fluid is a thing of the past?
or just crative freedom in the trailer The trailer gives a more artistic view that's easier for people to understand and paints an image of what the capsuleer sees in terms of a user interface. Pod fluid is still a thing, yes  Hence the reason the capsuleers see stuff like "Warp Drive Active" across their HUD, the same as players do 
How about showing us the pod fluid and adding some hard sci fi to the mix CCP never needed to go all artistic with their trailers before, in game footage was good enough to sell eve in the past, why the sudden and disappointing change? Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
529
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:59:00 -
[100] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
That makes no sense at all, why wouldn't the empires want us to go and destroy pirate sites?
These sites are giving the first access to 'warp engineering technology' in the form of Ascendency implants. We're heading toward player-generated wormholes/stargates/exploration&colonization. In a lore sense, letting Capsuleers run off into the darkness into Gods-know-what (what if the Sleepers are the least of our worries? What if there's worse out there, and it will start attacking?) without imperial control is terrifying. Imagine, for instance, that corporations or non-profits were developing the ability to colonize the moon or even Mars-- in a permanent way. Wouldn't national governments go, "uh. No. Nonono. WE do it. Go away." But why would they order us not to destroy pirate sites? It makes more sense for the empires to reward us for handing in any thing we might find. If you need to ask that then you need to take a basic poly-sci class coupled with a few history lessons. Mr Epeen 
I know all about history thank you, you however know nothing by the look of it... Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
692
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:59:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:Wow the scene where the sentry drones popped out of the ship and fired was amazing.
Yeah just like they have in the game.... Oh wait...
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3329
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:59:00 -
[102] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
How about showing us the pod fluid and adding some hard sci fi to the mix
Did you miss the part of the trailer that showed space ships? Spaceships flying in space and using space guns and drones?
I'd file that under hard sci-fi.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5154
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:01:00 -
[103] - Quote
empowered to defy the empires..
but never concord, our invincible gods There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
692
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:04:00 -
[104] - Quote
You know, this kind of reminds me of the Star Citizen movies, except in Star Citizen they aren't pre-rendered movies.
That and you can actually look around in your spaceship in Star Citizen at actual huds. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
613
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:05:00 -
[105] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote: How about showing us the pod fluid and adding some hard sci fi to the mix CCP never needed to go all artistic with their trailers before, in game footage was good enough to sell eve in the past, why the sudden and disappointing change?
The art direction CCP chooses to take with their game is their choice, and theirs alone.
I'm pretty sure showing a pod with green goo isn't the best way to attract new subscribers, and most of the current subscribers won't exactly swoon over the presence of green goo either. 
Captain Tardbar wrote:You know, this kind of reminds of the Star Citizen movies So the Eve "movie" reminds you of the Star Citizen "movie". Okay..... Does it also remind you of the Star Wars movies? Also, star citizen has no actual released gameplay, aside from a hangar that's effectivley a CQ equivalent atm. And it won't have any gameplay for a long while to come. And even when it does, I guarantee you it won't live up to the hype, nothing ever does. |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
692
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:09:00 -
[106] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote: How about showing us the pod fluid and adding some hard sci fi to the mix CCP never needed to go all artistic with their trailers before, in game footage was good enough to sell eve in the past, why the sudden and disappointing change?
The art direction CCP chooses to take with their game is their choice, and theirs alone. I'm pretty sure showing a pod with green goo isn't the best way to attract new subscribers, and most of the current subscribers won't exactly swoon over the presence of green goo either.  Captain Tardbar wrote:You know, this kind of reminds of the Star Citizen movies So the Eve movie reminds you of the Star Citizen movie. Okay..... Does it also remind you of the Star Wars movies?
They need to compete or die. Hence, they are making videos that remind people of someone elses videos.
Or at least as exciting.
Remind me when we are going to be able to see the insides of our capsules again?
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
613
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:12:00 -
[107] - Quote
Captain Tardbar wrote: They need to compete or die. Hence, they are making videos that remind people of someone elses videos.
Or at least as exciting.
Remind me when we are going to be able to see the insides of our capsules again?
Yes, an enormous sandbox mmo needs to compete with a game that features heavy instancing and server caps of 32-100(?) players. 
Also, tbh I'd be more worried about star citizen given that it feels the need to milk players for shitloads of money for "grand space admiral deluxe" versions of the game before it is anywhere near release. |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
692
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:17:00 -
[108] - Quote
PS
This trailer is done within the engine of Star Citizen not pre-renders:
http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/24/star-citizen-300-series-trailer-shows-off-gorgeous-in-engine-graphics/
It would be nice if the EVE engine could do the same I suppose, but no we have to use artistic licenses to make people imagine what its like inside your pod without ever showing you.
Then again, I suppose using your imagination every now and again doesn't hurt. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1844
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:20:00 -
[109] - Quote
I actually kinda wish that with SC release the people who want to play SC instead of EVE will move on to SC and stop trying to turn EVE into SC. |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
692
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:23:00 -
[110] - Quote
Abdiel Kavash wrote:I actually kinda wish that with SC release the people who want to play SC instead of EVE will move on to SC and stop trying to turn EVE into SC.
Personally I don't think EVE should be like SC, but I just think the videos showing capsuleers in cockpits like SC are funny when there will never ever be an in game cockpit. Its kind of false advertisment in a way.
There should be a disclaimer somewhere that says: "*Must use imagination to see inside capsule."
Seriously why not show an in engine demonstration of this activity... Or is it not exciting enough when you go and actually play it in game? "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
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Aynen
Federal Guard and Recon Corporation
32
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:26:00 -
[111] - Quote
First off; trailer looks amazing!
Second, does anyone else feel that the general 'feel' of the trailer has become a bit less 'Eve' and a bit more 'Star Wars'? I'm thinking especially of things like the camera movement and angles. Less 'cold and distant' and more 'in your face and close to the action'. It doesn't really fit my personal perspective on the Eve atmosphere. The addition of actual people in the trailers hasn't been around for very long yet, and it definitely changes the way the videos feel, but if it were me directing it I'd not zoom in quite as much, to create a more 'calculated and calm immortal pod pilot' than a 'caught in the heat of the moment immortal pod pilot'. Immortals aren't so afraid to die after all. |

Marlise Chelien
Ultimate Existencial
5
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:27:00 -
[112] - Quote
Captain Tardbar wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:I actually kinda wish that with SC release the people who want to play SC instead of EVE will move on to SC and stop trying to turn EVE into SC. Personally I don't think EVE should be like SC, but I just think the videos showing capsuleers in cockpits like SC are funny when there will never ever be an in game cockpit. Its kind of false advertisment in a way. There should be a disclaimer somewhere that says: "*Must use imagination to see inside capsule." Seriously why not show an in engine demonstration of this activity... Or is it not exciting enough when you go and actually play it in game? If you really think star citizen gameplay will be anything like the trailers you've got another thing coming... |

Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
85
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:32:00 -
[113] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Intex Encapor wrote:so pod fluid is a thing of the past?
or just crative freedom in the trailer The trailer gives a more artistic view that's easier for people to understand and paints an image of what the capsuleer sees in terms of a user interface. Pod fluid is still a thing, yes  Hence the reason the capsuleers see stuff like "Warp Drive Active" across their HUD, the same as players do  Another way to interpret the scenes in the trailer is what is shown is the virtual reality as experienced by the pilot. After all it would be hard to talk with your throat, lungs and mouth full of pod fluid. But you could be experiencing a virtual reality where you feel as though you are talking, even though you are actually mentally interfacing with the comms system. |

Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1269
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:45:00 -
[114] - Quote
Man that's an exciting looking game. What's it called? |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
530
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:48:00 -
[115] - Quote
Captain Tardbar wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote: How about showing us the pod fluid and adding some hard sci fi to the mix CCP never needed to go all artistic with their trailers before, in game footage was good enough to sell eve in the past, why the sudden and disappointing change?
The art direction CCP chooses to take with their game is their choice, and theirs alone. I'm pretty sure showing a pod with green goo isn't the best way to attract new subscribers, and most of the current subscribers won't exactly swoon over the presence of green goo either.  Captain Tardbar wrote:You know, this kind of reminds of the Star Citizen movies So the Eve movie reminds you of the Star Citizen movie. Okay..... Does it also remind you of the Star Wars movies? They need to compete or die. Hence, they are making videos that remind people of someone elses videos. Or at least as exciting. Remind me when we are going to be able to see the insides of our capsules again?
I can see the sense in that, the point I am repeatedly making is that in the past, eve's content via graphics, fx and gameplay was good enough to sell the game on it's merits and attract the right type of buyer to their store. I can't believe that the previous demographic of buyers/players out there has been used up, so why the attempts to glorify their product with 'artistic licence'. I don't mind a little bit of artistic licence as long as it's a polished representation of what can be done in game. I'll eat my words if rubicon brings spaceships that warp in and out like they did in the rubicon video, or if the sisters of eve ships actually do move like that, flying through structures etc, not to mention all of the implied avatar content.
The correct use of artistic licence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kmUf3fflrA
a proper trailer that does not lie to prospective customers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrrVDV_NsNo
best trailer ever imo says what eve is all about without pretending to be avatars in a cockpit with a hud in space as opposed to FIS. It has plenty of artistic licence that it s not too far from the game to be unbelievable. That's the trouble with the rubicon trailer is smacks of total bollox...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKdTJjDnYzE
another great trailer that doesn't try to write cheques it cant cash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVEHE10nHc
This incarna teaser says what it is to be a capsuleer. The pod opening sequence is magic and represents eve better than anything I've seen tonight in the new rubicon trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlSRI9uCDo8
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Jim Era
7662
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:50:00 -
[116] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:The trailer gives a more artistic view that's easier for people to understand and paints an image of what the capsuleer sees in terms of a user interface. Pod fluid is still a thing, yes  Hence the reason the capsuleers see stuff like "Warp Drive Active" across their HUD, the same as players do 
I thought the camera drones out side of the ship was how the capsuleer saw? |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
530
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:53:00 -
[117] - Quote
Jada Maroo wrote:Man that's an exciting looking game. What's it called?
whatever it's called it aint eve, I think it might be a new star wars online or some **** like that... Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
530
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:57:00 -
[118] - Quote
Abdiel Kavash wrote:I actually kinda wish that with SC release the people who want to play SC instead of EVE will move on to SC and stop trying to turn EVE into SC.
I would like to remind you that Eve was the original Star Citizen before the FIS crowd hijacked community anger over a botched expansion called incarna, a leaked CCP menu entitled 'greed is good' and the mention of gold ammo being on sale in the nex store. The resulting furore turned CCP into a market follower when prior to this it was the market leader in SCI FI mmo's. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
351
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:10:00 -
[119] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:I actually kinda wish that with SC release the people who want to play SC instead of EVE will move on to SC and stop trying to turn EVE into SC. I would like to remind you that Eve was the original Star Citizen before elements of the FIS crowd hijacked community anger over a botched expansion called incarna, a leaked CCP menu entitled 'greed is good' and the mention of gold ammo being on sale in the nex store. The resulting furore turned CCP into a market follower when prior to this it was the market leader in SCI FI mmo's.
We actually got a thread going for things to help bring that side of EVE back and not let CQ just become something more than useless.
Link to said topic. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2300
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:26:00 -
[120] - Quote
Is it a recent eve online trailer checklist:
- Does it include visuals impossible in the client? Check - Does it suggest gameplay impossible in the client? Check - Does it suggest story or content not in the client? Check - Does it use known assets in a way that is incongruous with how Eve plays? Check - As a piece of advertising, does it seemingly speak only to the current player-base? Check - Does it in any way represent an experience likely or possible to happen in Eve online? Ehhhhhhh
Eve has some awesome trailers in it's back catalogue, but more and more they're starting to look like a sub-par CGI (lol dem faces WHAT) / tech demo to appeal to current players and distract them from the lack of anything* actually shipping with the expansion.
* - granted, hyperbole "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
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Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
33
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:39:00 -
[121] - Quote
Just watched all the old trailers..
and I have to say i do miss the Scope News shorts.. about story line aspects.
But did have a lol at a couple.. There is one where a Abaddon (I am presuming the Amarr queen's) one shots a titan and a field of supers.. And a Null sec battle.. Where is US players Vs Ruski made me think of the current Null war |

Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
355
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:46:00 -
[122] - Quote
Garandras wrote:Just watched all the old trailers..
and I have to say i do miss the Scope News shorts.. about story line aspects.
But did have a lol at a couple.. There is one where a Abaddon (I am presuming the Amarr queen's) one shots a titan and a field of supers.. And a Null sec battle.. Where is US players Vs Ruski made me think of the current Null war
The Abaddon was the one time Empress Jamyl Sarum took to the field of battle and pretty much slaughtered a Minmatar fleet that had been forged for invading the Empire. The act led her to power. The weapon she used was a Terran super weapon that causes a ship's shields to implode on itself. This explains how (damaged) Amarrian vessels remain after the weapon's use (like old doomsday weapons that attack the grid) but all the Minmatar ships ended up getting torn apart.
This event is covered within the absolutely awesome book (that I highly recommend to everyone): EVE - Empyrean Age
If there's a book that truly covers the holy crapness of EVE, it is that one. Easy read too and don't slow down for a moment.
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
1213
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:46:00 -
[123] - Quote
Jada Maroo wrote:Man that's an exciting looking game. What's it called? Judging by the look - X-Rebirth. I hope those EgoSoft guys will create MMO game some day. |

Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1272
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:21:00 -
[124] - Quote
You reminded me... X-Rebirth in 10 hours! |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1182
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:49:00 -
[125] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:mynnna wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Not on a par with the epic trailers of a few years ago.
Quantum Rise, Dominion...
Also I was under the assumption that the Ghost Sites were a part of the lore around Rubicon but not the main deal. We want the tech the pirates have been developing, CONCORD & the Empires say "nope", we go and take it anyway. Fits the whole theme of defying the empires & there being no going back from that pretty well, I'd say. That makes no sense at all, why wouldn't the empires want us to go and destroy pirate sites?
They do NOT want us looting the pirate technology. At all. CONCORD want any technology that helps capsuleers move faster to be destroyed. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |

Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
325
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:03:00 -
[126] - Quote
Nov 15th, at 12:00 UTC, X-Rebirth will be released!!! w00t!!!!

Oh hey, CCP... ummmm spend more time adding proper content into your free "expansions" instead of making fancy bull CGI trailers...
<3 kthxbye....
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2260
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:07:00 -
[127] - Quote
Isis Dea wrote:Garandras wrote:Just watched all the old trailers..
and I have to say i do miss the Scope News shorts.. about story line aspects.
But did have a lol at a couple.. There is one where a Abaddon (I am presuming the Amarr queen's) one shots a titan and a field of supers.. And a Null sec battle.. Where is US players Vs Ruski made me think of the current Null war The Abaddon was the one time Empress Jamyl Sarum took to the field of battle and pretty much slaughtered a Minmatar fleet that had been forged for invading the Empire. The act led her to power. The weapon she used was a Terran super weapon that causes a ship's shields to implode on itself. This explains how (damaged) Amarrian vessels remain after the weapon's use (like old doomsday weapons that attack the grid) but all the Minmatar ships ended up getting torn apart. This event is covered within the absolutely awesome book (that I highly recommend to everyone): EVE - Empyrean Age If there's a book that truly covers the holy crapness of EVE, it is that one. Easy read too and don't slow down for a moment.
Empyrean Age had way too much deus ex machina going on in it, it was really aggrivating and I'd hesitate to call it "absolutely awesome" as a result. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1510
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:07:00 -
[128] - Quote
Jada Maroo wrote:You reminded me... X-Rebirth in 10 hours!
Hell yes. I plan on setting my skillqueues for something pretty long over the weekend. And I already told my wife to watch out for my "zone out" when I have both earbuds in. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1940
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:10:00 -
[129] - Quote
Aynen wrote:First off; trailer looks amazing!
Second, does anyone else feel that the general 'feel' of the trailer has become a bit less 'Eve' and a bit more 'Star Wars'? I'm thinking especially of things like the camera movement and angles. Less 'cold and distant' and more 'in your face and close to the action'. It doesn't really fit my personal perspective on the Eve atmosphere. The addition of actual people in the trailers hasn't been around for very long yet, and it definitely changes the way the videos feel, but if it were me directing it I'd not zoom in quite as much, to create a more 'calculated and calm immortal pod pilot' than a 'caught in the heat of the moment immortal pod pilot'. Immortals aren't so afraid to die after all.
Don't know why EVE can't be a cold, harsh world without being in our face and close to the action at the same time. EVE is not Star Wars, but when big ships line up to do battle, the result is probably going to be much the same regardless of the milieu. And pod pilots, immortal or not, are still human. I don't know why they wouldn't be afraid to die. In fact, I would imagine the experience of dying would be far more traumatic for a capsuleer than anyone else since they would know it's happened. For anyone else, death is the end, so there is no trauma, but for a pod pilot, each time it happens, it would wear on them. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
86
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:16:00 -
[130] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I guess it's a sign of... something, when a MMO developer no longer sells its game nor its lore in its advertising.
This said, maybe someone really wants that EVE TV show. Having the actors submerged in pod goo and experiencing a interface directly cast on their brains could probe both expensive and not very video-able. It's easier and cheaper if they just breathe air and see pwetty lightz in front of them in a ordinary HUD.
Of course, that beheads the lore, splits its craneum in half, removes the brains with a fork, poops in the empy craneum, staples the halves together again and plays football with it... but who cares? The hydrostatic pod and its neural interface only are a piece of lore 10 years old. And they stand on the way of EVE: the TV show.
well I think the views of the pilots are more of a virtual projection that they experience- like how we see our UI, that's what they "see" and experience. "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
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Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1940
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:20:00 -
[131] - Quote
I remember when they started doing live-action cinematic trailers for Halo, but I don't remember players complaining that the game looked nothing like that... oh, that's right, because they were cinematic trailers, and you're not supposed to expect anything from them except a giddy sense of anticipation.
I love this trailer. In fact, I would argue it's their best yet, bar none. No silly narration VO like Retribution and Odyssey, and it is quite suspenseful, ending in a scene that makes me wonder... will these Ghost exploration sites actually explode and pod people? Because I can't wait for the forum tears on that one if that's the case. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1940
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:23:00 -
[132] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jada Maroo wrote:You reminded me... X-Rebirth in 10 hours! Hell yes. I plan on setting my skillqueues for something pretty long over the weekend. And I already told my wife to watch out for my "zone out" when I have both earbuds in.
I have EVE tunnel vision, and although there are a few games that manage to sneak through it like the new Xcom expansion and, of course, GTA 5, someone's gonna need to tell me what the hype is about X-Rebirth. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
325
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:27:00 -
[133] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:[quote=Jada Maroo]You reminded me... X-Rebirth in 10 hours! .... someone's gonna need to tell me what the hype is about X-Rebirth.
Surely you're joking.

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Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1940
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:34:00 -
[134] - Quote
Mr. Orange wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:[quote=Jada Maroo]You reminded me... X-Rebirth in 10 hours! .... someone's gonna need to tell me what the hype is about X-Rebirth. Surely you're joking. 
Just watched the trailer on Steam. Looks interesting, but like any new releases I'll wait a few weeks before I spend $50 on it to see what kinda bugs need to be worked out first. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
826
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:41:00 -
[135] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:I love this trailer. In fact, I would argue it's their best yet, bar none. No silly narration VO like Retribution and Odyssey, and it is quite suspenseful, ending in a scene that makes me wonder... will these Ghost exploration sites actually explode and pod people? Because I can't wait for the forum tears on that one if that's the case.
Doubt it. (Though a two-stage explosion that first took your ship, then podded you if you didn't get out right quick, would indeed flood the forums in tears.) It's just shorthand for "the explosions are really violent." They don't bother illustrating pods for the same reason they don't bother explaining that ships have shields *and* armor *and* hull. The important thing is that the pirates are dangerous and failure to hack the tower has serious consequences.
After all, the new intro movie for EVE implies that Executioners are shield-tanked. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |

Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
285
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:09:00 -
[136] - Quote
This trailer was pretty poor. Not even remotely entertaining.
First, it's about PvE, which is the most boring content in the game.
Second, it's about new niche sites, that will either be too rare or too common, and I guess will constitute less than 2% of all PvE by market ISK value.
This is how lame these expansions (patches) are. There is no "there, there". A freaking video about hisec pocos would have probably been more interesting. Diapers |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5154
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:17:00 -
[137] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:A freaking video about hisec pocos would have probably been more interesting. A fleet shooting a poco with concord looking on disapprovingly There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:51:00 -
[138] - Quote
That's a cool trailer, but I think it belongs in "Out Of Pod Experience". We should probably keep things EVE-related in GD. |

Frying Doom
3376
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:25:00 -
[139] - Quote
Carmen Electra wrote:That's a cool trailer, but I think it belongs in "Out Of Pod Experience". We should probably keep things EVE-related in GD. But it was nice of CCP to make a trailer that has more to do with Star Citizen than it does EvE. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
91
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:29:00 -
[140] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:That's a cool trailer, but I think it belongs in "Out Of Pod Experience". We should probably keep things EVE-related in GD. But it was nice of CCP to make a trailer that has more to do with Star Citizen than it does EvE.
Yes, this was very generous of CCP. Hats off. Speaking of, I might buy X Rebirth tonight. I watched the trailer, and it looks like EVE without the community. Which, in a lot of ways seems perfect to me. |
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Shamus O'Reilly
Gungnirs' Point
122
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:41:00 -
[141] - Quote
Aynen wrote:First off; trailer looks amazing!
Second, does anyone else feel that the general 'feel' of the trailer has become a bit less 'Eve' and a bit more 'Star Wars'? I'm thinking especially of things like the camera movement and angles. Less 'cold and distant' and more 'in your face and close to the action'. It doesn't really fit my personal perspective on the Eve atmosphere. The addition of actual people in the trailers hasn't been around for very long yet, and it definitely changes the way the videos feel, but if it were me directing it I'd not zoom in quite as much, to create a more 'calculated and calm immortal pod pilot' than a 'caught in the heat of the moment immortal pod pilot'. Immortals aren't so afraid to die after all. Well. To put it this way. If you had the chance to make or break hundreds of millions of isk if not more as one of the first to find these sites (granted if you market trade well or WH run correctly etc blah blah a hundo or two is just pocket change but there are many out there that still dabble in the tens and hundreds as regular isk flow in the wallet) wouldn't you have an adrenaline rush kick in a bit?
Hell, the thought of losing an expensive ship in game at all to another player freaks people out sometimes and even in an intense PVP situation i, personally, still get an adrenaline kick at times.
Even in a game people get adrenaline rushes and emotional outbursts.
Just because you're immortal doesn't mean you're not human with human actions and reflexes. It just means you're willing to risk it to achieve something normal mortals wouldn't at risk of death. After that explosion (and apparently podding?) you'd wake up in your medbay pissed the hell off right?
As to the trailer vs expansion, the only thing i look foward to is mobile on grid cyno jammers and new faction ships if i ever choose to train amarr and leave the rust bucket race. Although the smoother UI would be excellent.
Then again, it's a trailer designed to draw attention. Even looking outside in to the EVE Universe the trailer showing a developing story + action pewpew will stick a few and have more try it. "I swear there are more people complaining over "nullsecers complaining" then actual nullsec people complaining." |

Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
286
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:51:00 -
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While the trailer did have its typical trailer silliness (come on, all trailers have some BS to them. I mean, take a look at the epic Skyrim one and then look up the vids with attacking chickens or rolling cabbages from a mountain.) it was also rather awesome.
It doesn't beat the Tyrannis one, nothing really does - with the freeze shots of a battle and opening words "I don't care for violence, but it is often a necessary evil" (and the closing sequence with Rifters flying through the battlefield, kind of showing the 'hey, may be a young pilot but this could be you! Flying your Rifter in a massive battle!'). But it's good none the less.
It also features beautiful shots of Machariels and nice artillery effects. That just looked so damn cool.
The actual expansion has more stuff in it, they're just demonstrating the new ships and ghost sites since they're the focal point of the story. It also has the CONCORD guy, Mr. Prick, I really hope at some point in EVE's history we'll get to show him that he's not really in the best position to 'enforce compliance'. Yulai by 2014! Nobody tells us what to do, nooobooody!!! Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |

Carniflex
StarHunt The Explicit Alliance
99
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Posted - 2013.11.15 07:34:00 -
[143] - Quote
I liked the trailer in general.
However, does this mean that from now on the frozen corpses will not be nude anymore? That must be some damn heavily armored bra to survive explosive decompression and flash frozing to the bone ;)
As far as showing pod pilots out of the pod - like fiddling with flight controls with hands - I'm not quite sure I like it. Sure its nice looking and all but it does not seem to go that well with the back-story. Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2513
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Posted - 2013.11.15 07:53:00 -
[144] - Quote
Carniflex wrote:I liked the trailer in general.
However, does this mean that from now on the frozen corpses will not be nude anymore? That must be some damn heavily armored bra to survive explosive decompression and flash frozing to the bone ;)
As far as showing pod pilots out of the pod - like fiddling with flight controls with hands - I'm not quite sure I like it. Sure its nice looking and all but it does not seem to go that well with the back-story.
It would make a lot more of sense if they spent 2 seconds of running time zooming into the ship... the pod... the vase inside the pod... the capusleer's head... fade to black to suggest you're entering the pilot's mind... then display the artistic license HUD bit.
Because, if even seasoned players with some lore background can be fooled to think that the pilots merely sit in a glorified cockpit, what will think someone who's never heard of the hydrostatic capsule?
(Let alone, what may think a new player who has seen the trailer, creates his first character in pure awe, loads the CQ and walks to the Door to stretch his newly acquired legs...) The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Chance Harper
Northen Star Corporation
19
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Posted - 2013.11.15 08:01:00 -
[145] - Quote
Awesome trailer, as always ;) At some point and time tho, i would like to see some of those effects in eve that are shown in the trailer. Like dmg models, would be really awesome! Or ships that are almost destroyed just spining out of control through space before they blow up. Real collisions, that actually cause damage!
Imagine crashing your BS or Dread into a titen and all that with nice damage models. |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
22309
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Posted - 2013.11.15 09:15:00 -
[146] - Quote
I like the trailer, as I liked the other ones... it hasn't much to do with game, but it's nice.  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases |

Samoth Egnoled
26071
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Posted - 2013.11.15 09:18:00 -
[147] - Quote
Chance Harper wrote:Awesome trailer, as always ;) At some point and time tho, i would like to see some of those effects in eve that are shown in the trailer. Like dmg models, would be really awesome! Or ships that are almost destroyed just spining out of control through space before they blow up. Real collisions, that actually cause damage!
Imagine crashing your BS or Dread into a titen and all that with nice damage models.
AFAIK they had those damage models working, however they were extremely resource heavy. They were working on reducing that and making it usable ingame, but this was probably a couple of years ago. Ego Sum Mortem Incarnatum - I Am Death Incarnate |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17414
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Posted - 2013.11.15 09:18:00 -
[148] - Quote
Carniflex wrote:However, does this mean that from now on the frozen corpses will not be nude anymore? That must be some damn heavily armored bra to survive explosive decompression and flash frozing to the bone ;) Since neither explosive decompression or flash-freezing to the bone actually happens, it doesn't need to be that armoured.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
340
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Posted - 2013.11.15 09:34:00 -
[149] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Carniflex wrote:However, does this mean that from now on the frozen corpses will not be nude anymore? That must be some damn heavily armored bra to survive explosive decompression and flash frozing to the bone ;) Since neither explosive decompression or flash-freezing to the bone actually happens, it doesn't need to be that armoured.  ^this. It's like, common knowledge guys, just how far do you plan on embarrassing the EVE playerbase? There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
471
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Posted - 2013.11.15 09:36:00 -
[150] - Quote
1400mm hits moving cruiser
i smell a buff. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Liu Ellens
Blame The Bunny The Dark Nation
102
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Posted - 2013.11.15 09:42:00 -
[151] - Quote
Galen Darksmith wrote:simulacrum
This; And for a more visual reminder, remember that scene from Matrix Reloaded and consider the approach controllers in the white room: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt5z3OEjDzU eve-kino - create machinimas with EVE assets in the browser eve-upro - an online browser application to support navigation in New Eden and beyond. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4519
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Posted - 2013.11.15 09:54:00 -
[152] - Quote
Why ...
... is it only ...
... in 360p ... ???? |
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CCP Falcon
4536

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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:08:00 -
[153] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Why ...
... is it only ...
... in 360p ... ????
the 1080p option works okay for me.... 0_o CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Team -á || -á EVE Illuminati
@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents |
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Prince Kobol
1148
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:11:00 -
[154] - Quote
I still say that as far as cinematic trailers are concerned, Star Wars the Old Republic are by far the best.
Sure the game is total crap and is an shining example of what is wrong with most MMO developed today but the trailers were EPIC :) |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4519
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:12:00 -
[155] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why ...
... is it only ...
... in 360p ... ???? the 1080p option works okay for me.... 0_o :/
I'll check more detailed after work. Maybe i've broken something. ... besides youtube being broken since they've changed it. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4519
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:15:00 -
[156] - Quote
Okay, so for some reason the opera browser insists on 360p being the only option, while Internet Explorer 11 determines that to be a lie.
Cheers ! |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:15:00 -
[157] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Why ...
... is it only ...
... in 360p ... ????
... Really?
The Trailer I watched was in 1080p. Tho Youtube foced me to click twice before I got the good resolution, I was properly enraged.
EDIT: Dang, somebody Falcon beat me to it... Shouldn't have pesky work let me distract from importand GD duty.  Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1861
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:18:00 -
[158] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Okay, so for some reason the opera browser insists on 360p being the only option, while Internet Explorer 11 determines that to be a lie.
Cheers ! Have you tried using an internet browser to view it? |

Mhax Arthie
173
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:21:00 -
[159] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Okay, so for some reason the opera browser insists on 360p being the only option, while Internet Explorer 11 determines that to be a lie.
Cheers ! Nope. I use only Opera and the trailer works fine on 1080p. Must be something wrong on your side. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17414
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:32:00 -
[160] - Quote
CCP Falcon wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why ...
... is it only ...
... in 360p ... ???? the 1080p option works okay for me.... 0_o The option is there, but youtube gets very unhappy if you try to actually access the fileGǪ 720 is available as normal, though.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
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Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
389
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:45:00 -
[161] - Quote
I seem to have missed the subtle notation on screen that this video was made with in game footage like many of the old, old videos... |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:55:00 -
[162] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: It's a trailer lol.
You don't like anything, do you?
Many of the older Eve trailers were just sooo much better in terms of "goosebumps" though. CCP used to have some of the best trailers around tbh. This one seems to be standard trailer material (though not bad by any measure), but maybe I'm just bitter.
The only Trailer that gave me that goosebumpy feeling was (I think) Revelations II. The part at the End where the narrator said "we are the enemies of the gods."
That was awesome. 
This one was cool tho, I really liked it.  Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
542
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:56:00 -
[163] - Quote
Dersen Lowery wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:I love this trailer. In fact, I would argue it's their best yet, bar none. No silly narration VO like Retribution and Odyssey, and it is quite suspenseful, ending in a scene that makes me wonder... will these Ghost exploration sites actually explode and pod people? Because I can't wait for the forum tears on that one if that's the case. Doubt it. (Though a two-stage explosion that first took your ship, then podded you if you didn't get out right quick, would indeed flood the forums in tears.) It's just shorthand for "the explosions are really violent." They don't bother illustrating pods for the same reason they don't bother explaining that ships have shields *and* armor *and* hull. The important thing is that the pirates are dangerous and failure to hack the tower has serious consequences. After all, the new intro movie for EVE implies that Executioners are shield-tanked.
Isn't everything shield tanked these days... Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Oxylan
QRDELESH - Mutual Admiration Society
64
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:10:00 -
[164] - Quote
Im disappointed in general about trailer, however Rubicon got awesome features.
VIsual aspect like combat- 3d models- structures in space 9/10 Carbon character acting in Matrix style, where people talk and move hands near hologram display, while this look modern its cheap and got low impact - 5/10 Message at end to new players- "play now" ruined whole trailer for me.
Come on, here realy needs to say "play now"
A good trailer pull people to game without these words. If it bleed we can kill it. |

Kristina Rin
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
21
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:18:00 -
[165] - Quote
is the girl in this trailer the same as the girl in the navy slicer in eve origin trainer ? From Vietnam with love <3 |

thorgil
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
8
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:21:00 -
[166] - Quote
loved this trailer. Explosions are always cool.
But is it me or does these blueprints seems to be stargate parts? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17414
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:24:00 -
[167] - Quote
Kristina Rin wrote:is the girl in this trailer the same as the girl in the navy slicer in eve origin trainer ? Yes. And it's the same worried-empire-guy.
thorgil wrote:But is it me or does these blueprints seems to be stargate parts? That's just you extrapolating from the fanfest vision presentation. They don't really look like anything, and are supposed to be of deployables and implants if anything.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

thorgil
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
8
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:29:00 -
[168] - Quote
Quote:hat's just you extrapolating from the fanfest vision presentation. They don't really look like anything, and are supposed to be of deployables and implants if anything. Blink
Yes probably, hype train is on my brain. But still, the first blueprint really looks like a stargate body ( all circle and glowing and ****), and the second what goes around it. It would make sense in lore too: pirates want to construct stargate to **** empires up.
Anyway,nice trailer. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:32:00 -
[169] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote: Imagine, for instance, that corporations or non-profits were developing the ability to colonize the moon or even Mars-- in a permanent way. Wouldn't national governments go, "uh. No. Nonono. WE do it. Go away."
Nope, they'd just try to tax the hell out of them and quarantine everyone who tries to go back to earh for at least 2 years just so nobody ever tries to return.
And maybe they'd even find a way to shoot all those unwanted criminals, heinous music downloaders amd pedophiles to mars. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1861
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:39:00 -
[170] - Quote
Kristina Rin wrote:is the girl in this trailer the same as the girl in the navy slicer in eve origin trainer ? Takes a lot of time and money to design new high-quality character models. Especially if they're only to be used for several seconds of one video. |
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
836
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Posted - 2013.11.15 12:35:00 -
[171] - Quote
It is sad that the only place where we will see avatar action for the next ten years will be in the trailers.
How about we go back to the simple "This trailer use in-game footage" until a time when avatar gameplay will be introduced properly? Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
984
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Posted - 2013.11.15 12:49:00 -
[172] - Quote
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:One week after release  That would be fine, actually... since we're getting winter expansion in mid November anyway  edit: In the meantime, you can watch a player made Rubicon trailer here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8Pk-Rq4W8
needs moar spinners
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Morgan Forksaws
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:11:00 -
[173] - Quote
Rubicon trailer would've been more fitting for black prophecy than eve. Last couple of trailers have been really bad, I was barely able to make myself watch oddysey trailer and this one wasn't much better. I might just be bitter but this is quite a step down from the trailers of old. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4519
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:19:00 -
[174] - Quote
CCP Falcon...
If i had a message to the character animation team or whoever is responsible for the facial expressions and display of personality of virtual characters, would you relay it to them?
I'm on phone now, which makes it a PITA and i'd be writing it later on on my notebook.
It's not your typical bullshit people write, but actually about realism of facial expressions and how people display their personality through them. As people pick this up subconsciously, having more realistic virtual characters leads to a far more satisfying experience.
I know my ****, let me help improve yours. I'm not saying i'm a modeller or animator, btw. I am as much not an animator as your animators aren't ... whatever i do.
Cheers. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3365
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:27:00 -
[175] - Quote
Captain Tardbar wrote:You know, this kind of reminds me of the Star Citizen movies, except in Star Citizen they aren't pre-rendered movies.
That and you can actually look around in your spaceship in Star Citizen at actual huds.
I'm going to cry absolute tears of joy from laughing so hard when Star citizen disappoints you and you type.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3365
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:34:00 -
[176] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:I remember when they started doing live-action cinematic trailers for Halo, but I don't remember players complaining that the game looked nothing like that... oh, that's right, because they were cinematic trailers, and you're not supposed to expect anything from them except a giddy sense of anticipation.
EVE for some reason attracts a special breed of complainer lol. Everything must be perfect and fit their particular notion.
Special, but not unique I should say, the EVE forum community reminds me greatly of the Battletech/Mechwarrior (and no Mechwarrior online) community as well as a few other niche game/IP communities. |

Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
299
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:34:00 -
[177] - Quote
Nicen Jehr wrote:So the CONCORD guy is like 'Stay the f* out, there will be consequences.' But the only consequences are the pirates' response, there are no consequences from the empires.
If you really are aiming to sow dissension between capsuleers and the empires, you should grant a suspect flag to all capsuleers on grid when a ghost site explodes in empire space. CONCORD's sensor arrays (presumably the same ones that keep Local running) would notice the energy anomaly and punish the capsuleer for disobeying the mandate.
You missed the ending to this trailer that was strangely cut from the final edit. After the shot of the capsuleer woman's corpse, you see a visualization of data travelling through multiple fluid routers until it reaches a medical facility. Pan to a clone of the woman that lies still on a medical table. Then pan to a nearby computer terminal that reads:
"Capsuleer clone animation sequence started.
Neural scan data successfully received.
Neural scan data input sequence.... interrupted.
Capsuleer clone animation sequence aborted."
Pan down to a hand at the keyboard, then up to the Concord official's face.
He turns and walks out. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4519
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:37:00 -
[178] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:You know, this kind of reminds me of the Star Citizen movies, except in Star Citizen they aren't pre-rendered movies.
That and you can actually look around in your spaceship in Star Citizen at actual huds. I'm going to cry absolute tears of joy from laughing so hard when Star citizen disappoints you and you type. As if that ever happened. Never jn the history of mankind has marketing failed to deliver to the expectations it created. Never ever has marketing been tied to psychogy and tricked people into believing stuff that's neither there or going to happen and never ever was it the whole point of marketing to make people buy stuff.
Obviously it's all not just a shell. People aren't being manipulated. Marketing never does that. Marketing also doesn't fund psychologists or neurologists to learn how to even better manipulate the people into believing what marketing wants them to believe and
Always. Absolutely always people notice the manipulation attempts that turn the into mindless zombies who just parrot whatever the hype wants them to believe.
And obviously i have no clue about this at all.
edit: posting on the phone. it sucks. |

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
705
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:53:00 -
[179] - Quote
Eve-O is about spaceships. Except when making promotional trailers.
Why do I even bother...
Well, nice piece of work anyhow. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |

Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
69
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:58:00 -
[180] - Quote
It's impressive in terms of cinematics, and how it talks about some of the main points of this new expansion: capsuleers breaking from the empires, Ghost Sites, SoE faction ships.
Although I can't ignore others' comments about the older trailers being... kind of... better. Not saying this one is bad at all, but the other ones somehow catched the spirit of EVE more precisely: the sandbox, the enormous universe, the somehow 'dark sci-fi' it is, the cold and uncaring vacuum of space. These new trailers are very refreshing, but I'd like to see a slight comeback to the old days in a future trailer; somehow lees people and more technology and space. |
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ResearchGuy10k
Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:05:00 -
[181] - Quote
I do wonder....
You know the Concord announcements etc made on the BIG SCREENS projected from the stations, will CCP ever implement something like that.
Would be pretty cool I think if NPC announcements or calls for calm etc were made like this within game regarding live events and major news reports.
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
288
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:21:00 -
[182] - Quote
Esan Vartesa wrote:Nicen Jehr wrote:So the CONCORD guy is like 'Stay the f* out, there will be consequences.' But the only consequences are the pirates' response, there are no consequences from the empires.
If you really are aiming to sow dissension between capsuleers and the empires, you should grant a suspect flag to all capsuleers on grid when a ghost site explodes in empire space. CONCORD's sensor arrays (presumably the same ones that keep Local running) would notice the energy anomaly and punish the capsuleer for disobeying the mandate. You missed the ending to this trailer that was strangely cut from the final edit. After the shot of the capsuleer woman's corpse, you see a visualization of data travelling through multiple fluid routers until it reaches a medical facility. Pan to a clone of the woman that lies still on a medical table. Then pan to a nearby computer terminal that reads: "Capsuleer clone animation sequence started.
Neural scan data successfully received.
Neural scan data input sequence.... interrupted.
Capsuleer clone animation sequence aborted."Pan down to a hand at the keyboard, then up to the Concord official's face. He turns and walks out.
Those poor empire people. CONCORD has taken so much from them - the pleasure of ganking, murder, looting, pillaging and is now out for their lives. But don't worry little ones, we'll dispose of the pesky angry man. We'll liberate you, oh yeah!
In fact, we'll liberate the **** out of you 
As BS as it is, it'd be fun to see CONCORD turn against the people it used to protect. Goodbye New Eden Dream hello police state!
Also I did like the little "matrix" thing, the UI they display on it seems really close to the actual in-game UI. Both pilots are just as "detached" from their ship as the player is (just looking at the UI, guiding the ship with his "mind" or, in this case, mouse clicks).
That said, it'd be really nice if CCP joined a gang and picked up some lingo. While shield Stratios makes sense (shield nano Stratios. You know you want to.) the pilot would be more likely to say "I can't tank it/tank breaking". Add "I'm pointed" to the suspense. It still sounds like scifi technobabble but then you join a crowd of people that actually use it and it's way cooler because those words actually mean something. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2514
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:21:00 -
[183] - Quote
Esan Vartesa wrote:Nicen Jehr wrote:So the CONCORD guy is like 'Stay the f* out, there will be consequences.' But the only consequences are the pirates' response, there are no consequences from the empires.
If you really are aiming to sow dissension between capsuleers and the empires, you should grant a suspect flag to all capsuleers on grid when a ghost site explodes in empire space. CONCORD's sensor arrays (presumably the same ones that keep Local running) would notice the energy anomaly and punish the capsuleer for disobeying the mandate. You missed the ending to this trailer that was strangely cut from the final edit. After the shot of the capsuleer woman's corpse, you see a visualization of data travelling through multiple fluid routers until it reaches a medical facility. Pan to a clone of the woman that lies still on a medical table. Then pan to a nearby computer terminal that reads: "Capsuleer clone animation sequence started.
Neural scan data successfully received.
Neural scan data input sequence.... interrupted.
Capsuleer clone animation sequence aborted."Pan down to a hand at the keyboard, then up to the Concord official's face. He turns and walks out.
This is a videogame after all. All the yadda yadda boils down to a guy laughing manically because he and other 500 could shoot other players like fish in a barrel and face absolutely no consequences.
As i've said sometimes, EVE is a Viking's idea of fun, minus the r*pe all women part.  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

highonpop
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
492
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:42:00 -
[184] - Quote
I remember when CCP took great pride in showcasing trailers that used in-game graphics and footage. Long gone are the days CCP actually produces a trailer that even remotely resembles in-game experience.
Literally nothing from the trailer is possible in-game..
On a game related note.. I'm super pumped for the new structures. http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
The best advice I can give any Eve player, new or old, is to never ever ever read the general discussion subforum. It is a cancer on this game and should just be deleted. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
606
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:45:00 -
[185] - Quote
Esan Vartesa wrote:
You missed the ending to this trailer that was strangely cut from the final edit. After the shot of the capsuleer woman's corpse, you see a visualization of data travelling through multiple fluid routers until it reaches a medical facility. Pan to a clone of the woman that lies still on a medical table. Then pan to a nearby computer terminal that reads:
"Capsuleer clone animation sequence started.
Neural scan data successfully received.
Neural scan data input sequence.... interrupted.
Capsuleer clone animation sequence aborted."
Pan down to a hand at the keyboard, then up to the Concord official's face.
He turns and walks out.
Yeah, I can totally see how that would make people belive that CCP is goign to shut down EVE or turn it into some kind of perma death MMO...
... ... Tho permadeath might drastically increase the numbers of T1 frigate pilots...  Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
351
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:32:00 -
[186] - Quote
Slarti wrote:One thing for sure about this expansion, it will be yet another kick in the teeth for the single player
what drugs are you on? Fighting is Magic |

Scarlett Blake
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:52:00 -
[187] - Quote
Trailer summary |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
4714
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:57:00 -
[188] - Quote
Looks more Wintery to me. Black is not a Summer color.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

David Kir
Statement of Intent
347
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:55:00 -
[189] - Quote
This trailer is your classic CGI bait and switch.
What kind of public is CCP trying to cater to? Because people who are attracted by that type of gameplay won't wait long before quitting the game, after discovering that it has nothing to do with dogfighting. And then they'll start spreading their "omg spreadsheets sooo boring" crap all over the internet.
Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |

Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
287
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:12:00 -
[190] - Quote
That script would have been sounded wooden and forced in a porno. Some random mongoloid broadcasting do nots to the entire capsuleer community of the universe?
Are we playing the same game?
People talking about the cinematics are missing the point. Diapers |
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Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1947
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:14:00 -
[191] - Quote
I swear some people just want to complain for its own sake. First world problems anyone? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

David Kir
Statement of Intent
347
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:26:00 -
[192] - Quote
Trii Seo wrote:
It doesn't beat the Tyrannis one, nothing really does - with the freeze shots of a battle and opening words "I don't care for violence, but it is often a necessary evil" (and the closing sequence with Rifters flying through the battlefield, kind of showing the 'hey, may be a young pilot but this could be you! Flying your Rifter in a massive battle!'). But it's good none the less.
It also features beautiful shots of Machariels and nice artillery effects. That just looked so damn cool.
I just watched that. I actually got a bit emotional. Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |

Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:40:00 -
[193] - Quote
David Kir wrote:This trailer is your classic CGI bait and switch.
What kind of public is CCP trying to cater to? Because people who are attracted by that type of gameplay won't wait long before quitting the game, after discovering that it has nothing to do with dogfighting. And then they'll start spreading their "omg spreadsheets sooo boring" crap all over the internet.
CCP has no integrity. never has, never will.
Locking threads and deleting posts that you don't like shows poor form CCP. You are a multimillion dollar multinational company FFS stop acting so sensitive to the truth and facts. |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1948
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:53:00 -
[194] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Mr. Orange wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:[quote=Jada Maroo]You reminded me... X-Rebirth in 10 hours! .... someone's gonna need to tell me what the hype is about X-Rebirth. Surely you're joking.  Just watched the trailer on Steam. Looks interesting, but like any new releases I'll wait a few weeks before I spend $50 on it to see what kinda bugs need to be worked out first.
I would like to point out that after giving this 'X-Rebirth game a whirl, I feel I have wasted my money. Complete trash. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Louise Beethoven
Hedion University Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:53:00 -
[195] - Quote
Cringeworthy, cliched dialogue over visuals that look nothing like eve online.
Sad.
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Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1948
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:02:00 -
[196] - Quote
Ghost Phius wrote:David Kir wrote:This trailer is your classic CGI bait and switch.
What kind of public is CCP trying to cater to? Because people who are attracted by that type of gameplay won't wait long before quitting the game, after discovering that it has nothing to do with dogfighting. And then they'll start spreading their "omg spreadsheets sooo boring" crap all over the internet.
CCP has no integrity. never has, never will. Locking threads and deleting posts that you don't like shows poor form CCP. You are a multimillion dollar multinational company FFS stop acting so sensitive to the truth and facts.
Oh come on, that is absolute garbage and you know it. I've been gaming for over 20 years mate and I have never encountered a gaming developer with more core integrity than CCP, but I've met so many different kinds of people that I can detect epic overreactions to such trivial little faults a mile away. Let me know when CCP start making day-one DLC that turns out to be required content for the game to function, when they start charging for expansions, and when they start advertising them and overhyping them on million-dollar television advertisements instead of spending that money on game content, let me know when they start releasing annual remakes of the same game with different map packs, then, maybe then, we can talk about integrity. Until then, just go crawl back into whatever cotton-wool padded first world basement you live in and skulk in the corner that you came from, or get some exposure to the real world. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

David Kir
Statement of Intent
348
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:11:00 -
[197] - Quote
Ghost Phius wrote:David Kir wrote:This trailer is your classic CGI bait and switch.
What kind of public is CCP trying to cater to? Because people who are attracted by that type of gameplay won't wait long before quitting the game, after discovering that it has nothing to do with dogfighting. And then they'll start spreading their "omg spreadsheets sooo boring" crap all over the internet.
CCP has no integrity. never has, never will. Locking threads and deleting posts that you don't like shows poor form CCP. You are a multimillion dollar multinational company FFS stop acting so sensitive to the truth and facts.
Whoah man, that's a bit of a jump. CCP is pretty damn good, given the gaming industry standards.
Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die. |

Turk MacRumien
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:28:00 -
[198] - Quote
Pretty cool looking trailer, makes me wonder if drones will ever not just appear in space around you. +1 for the mach shots, always cool to see the ships looking the best they possibly could.
On a side note, hoooollly shiiieet. Thanks for the major dose of whiny bittervet guys. Just go play X-rebirth already or Star Citiz - oh wait, the game that everyone and their mother thinks is the greatest thing ever doesn't release for another 2 years |

Evei Shard
Shard Industries
257
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Posted - 2013.11.15 18:29:00 -
[199] - Quote
It's unfortunate that Rubicon is so lacking that many people are choosing to spend money to check out X-Rebirth as opposed to buying PLEX in order to grab the latest content in Eve. Profit favors the prepared |

Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1616
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:28:00 -
[200] - Quote
That there over-produced CGI trailer is a lot of glitz and glamor for an economic simulator.
It does look purty, though. Yep. That there trailer sure does have a purty mouth.  Bring your possibles. |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3368
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Posted - 2013.11.15 19:30:00 -
[201] - Quote
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:That there over-produced CGI trailer is a lot of glitz and glamor for an economic simulator. It does look purty, though. Yep. That there trailer sure does have a purty mouth. 
Great, now i have banjo music playing in my head.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2516
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:23:00 -
[202] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:I would like to point out that after giving this 'X-Rebirth game a whirl, I feel I have wasted my money. Complete trash.
So you tried it for 20 minutes and didn't like it? Your opinion just oozes credibility... The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3369
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:46:00 -
[203] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:I would like to point out that after giving this 'X-Rebirth game a whirl, I feel I have wasted my money. Complete trash. So you tried it for 20 minutes and didn't like it? Your opinion just oozes credibility... 
How about now?
Quote: User Score 4.9
Generally unfavorable reviews based on 130 Ratings
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2516
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:58:00 -
[204] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:I would like to point out that after giving this 'X-Rebirth game a whirl, I feel I have wasted my money. Complete trash. So you tried it for 20 minutes and didn't like it? Your opinion just oozes credibility...  How about now?Quote: User Score 4.9
Generally unfavorable reviews based on 130 Ratings
On a game just launched. Are you kidding me?  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
132
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Posted - 2013.11.15 22:51:00 -
[205] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Ghost Phius wrote:David Kir wrote:This trailer is your classic CGI bait and switch.
What kind of public is CCP trying to cater to? Because people who are attracted by that type of gameplay won't wait long before quitting the game, after discovering that it has nothing to do with dogfighting. And then they'll start spreading their "omg spreadsheets sooo boring" crap all over the internet.
CCP has no integrity. never has, never will. Locking threads and deleting posts that you don't like shows poor form CCP. You are a multimillion dollar multinational company FFS stop acting so sensitive to the truth and facts. Oh come on, that is absolute garbage and you know it. I've been gaming for over 20 years mate and I have never encountered a gaming developer with more core integrity than CCP, but I've met so many different kinds of people that I can detect epic overreactions to such trivial little faults a mile away. Let me know when CCP start making day-one DLC that turns out to be required content for the game to function, when they start charging for expansions, and when they start advertising them and overhyping them on million-dollar television advertisements instead of spending that money on game content, let me know when they start releasing annual remakes of the same game with different map packs, then, maybe then, we can talk about integrity. Until then, just go crawl back into whatever cotton-wool padded first world basement you live in and skulk in the corner that you came from, or get some exposure to the real world.
No it is not garbage it is the actual truth that CCP has been giving gifts to "special" groups and/or people against the very spirit of the integrity you claim they have for YEARS. This is FACT that THEY have ADMITTED too already. No need for you or anyone else to come here trying to white knoght and revise history.
Just because they are not as bad as EA does not mean they are truthful and have acted with integrity when the facts AND THEIR OWN ADMISSIONS show the exact opposite.
In terms of basements, I would like to think that you were not trying to replace the facts here with personal insults, but..... |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
547
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:07:00 -
[206] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:I still say that as far as cinematic trailers are concerned, Star Wars the Old Republic are by far the best.
Sure the game is total crap and is an shining example of what is wrong with most MMO developed today but the trailers were EPIC :)
The CCP seagull is going it won't be long before they start saying this about eve online. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
547
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:11:00 -
[207] - Quote
Kristina Rin wrote:is the girl in this trailer the same as the girl in the navy slicer in eve origin trainer ?
Yes she is and I would kick her from my corp. Not a single confirmed kill and crap at hacking, she needs to start mining as she's not cut out for the big league. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
134
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Posted - 2013.11.16 04:04:00 -
[208] - Quote
That shot of the rack of sentries in the drone bay was pretty cool. |

Alt Two
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
93
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Posted - 2013.11.16 04:11:00 -
[209] - Quote
highonpop wrote:I remember when CCP took great pride in showcasing trailers that used in-game graphics and footage. Long gone are the days CCP actually produces a trailer that even remotely resembles in-game experience.
Literally nothing from the trailer is possible in-game..
On a game related note.. I'm super pumped for the new structures. How else are they going to make a balance patch seem like it's an exciting new expansion? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5160
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Posted - 2013.11.16 04:42:00 -
[210] - Quote
Unezka Turigahl wrote:That shot of the rack of sentries in the drone bay was pretty cool. should have shown 200 carriers assigning them to a t3 There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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Valid Point
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
14
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Posted - 2013.11.16 05:22:00 -
[211] - Quote
Screw all the fancy CGI and lens flare, THIS should be the rubicon trailer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F18B1SiQFVc The [UNDOCK] button is an "I agree to be blown up" button. by clicking it, you are accepting. -Kitty Bear |

Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
172
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Posted - 2013.11.16 06:55:00 -
[212] - Quote
Pretty much everything I hate in a trailer was in it.
Except people landing on knee + one hand and looking up ot the camrea, that was covered in some DUST trailer though. |

Solomunio Kzenig
Incursions Missions and Mining
19
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Posted - 2013.11.16 11:30:00 -
[213] - Quote
Worst EVE Trailer EVER; Dominion, Tyrannis and Inferno Trailers poop all over this lame excuse, fire whoever made it plz, ty. |

Prince Kobol
1149
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Posted - 2013.11.16 11:42:00 -
[214] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:I still say that as far as cinematic trailers are concerned, Star Wars the Old Republic are by far the best.
Sure the game is total crap and is an shining example of what is wrong with most MMO developed today but the trailers were EPIC :) The way CCP seagull is going it won't be long before they start saying this about eve online.
I hope not but it is starting to slowly head towards that direction. |

Erin Crawford
0
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Posted - 2013.11.16 12:36:00 -
[215] - Quote
Evei Shard wrote:It's unfortunate that Rubicon is so lacking that many people are choosing to spend money to check out X-Rebirth as opposed to buying PLEX in order to grab the latest content in Eve.
I agree, but forget X-Rebirth...
There is that other huge white balloon of an elephant that has gained, so far in excess of, $27+ million from what appears to be desperate people looking for something else. I wonder what? What is it they are looking for? What's worth $27+million and growing? A dream, a vision...?
Image, that instead of that white elephant, it had all been PLEXed into EVE! Imagine the possibilities... $27 million more and growing! 
Heck, EVE already exists and has been around for just over a decade and with good reason!!! Make it even greater!
Sad to see so many negative views about where this game is purportedly heading... Sad to see massive 'player-based' funding/pledging going into something that, as yet, does not exist! Why..? |

Frying Doom
3377
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Posted - 2013.11.16 12:47:00 -
[216] - Quote
Erin Crawford wrote:Evei Shard wrote:It's unfortunate that Rubicon is so lacking that many people are choosing to spend money to check out X-Rebirth as opposed to buying PLEX in order to grab the latest content in Eve. I agree, but forget X-Rebirth... There is that other huge white balloon of an elephant that has gained, so far in excess of, $27+ million from what appears to be desperate people looking for something else. I wonder what? What is it they are looking for? What's worth $27+million and growing? A dream, a vision...? Image, that instead of that white elephant, it had all been PLEXed into EVE! Imagine the possibilities... $27 million more and growing!  Heck, EVE already exists and has been around for just over a decade and with good reason!!! Make it even greater! Sad to see so many negative views about where this game is purportedly heading... Sad to see massive 'player-based' funding/pledging going into something that, as yet, does not exist! Why..? The why is very easy. Yes it is the vision of Chris Roberts that people want to see become a reality, a game he himself wants to play.
Also communication, we know week to week what they are doing, if there is a delay we know why. I suppose you could say it is transparency and good customer service that has people rapt as well as the vision its self. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2523
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Posted - 2013.11.16 12:57:00 -
[217] - Quote
Erin Crawford wrote:Evei Shard wrote:It's unfortunate that Rubicon is so lacking that many people are choosing to spend money to check out X-Rebirth as opposed to buying PLEX in order to grab the latest content in Eve. I agree, but forget X-Rebirth... There is that other huge white balloon of an elephant that has gained, so far in excess of, $27+ million from what appears to be desperate people looking for something else. I wonder what? What is it they are looking for? What's worth $27+million and growing? A dream, a vision...? Image, that instead of that white elephant, it had all been PLEXed into EVE instead! Imagine the possibilities... $27 million more and growing!  Heck, EVE already exists and has been around for just over a decade and with good reason!!! Make it even greater! Sad to see so many negative views about where this game is purportedly heading... Sad to see massive 'player-based' funding/pledging going into something that, as yet, does not exist! Why..?
X-Rebirth needs to be re-evaluated in 6 months once Egosoft and the mod community have started improving its "release" version.
As for that other game, it is what EVE is not, it's a heir to the space games of old. The average EVE player is old enough to have played those games before they vanished from the market, and EVE has been borrowing a lot of people from outside its natural niche.
Now that other game tries to claim back the old niche and EVE can't compete, in part because it can't leave its natural niche without losing everything, and in part because CCP still is an amateurish one-hit wonder company that's spent ten years enjoying a monopoly, and never has been forced to compete against professionals who know their stuff.
And that includes selling your vision to the people who shares it. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Prince Kobol
1149
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:20:00 -
[218] - Quote
Erin Crawford wrote:Evei Shard wrote:It's unfortunate that Rubicon is so lacking that many people are choosing to spend money to check out X-Rebirth as opposed to buying PLEX in order to grab the latest content in Eve. I agree, but forget X-Rebirth... There is that other huge white balloon of an elephant that has gained, so far in excess of, $27+ million from what appears to be desperate people looking for something else. I wonder what? What is it they are looking for? What's worth $27+million and growing? A dream, a vision...? Image, that instead of that white elephant, it had all been PLEXed into EVE! Imagine the possibilities... $27 million more and growing!  Heck, EVE already exists and has been around for just over a decade and with good reason!!! Make it even greater! Sad to see so many negative views about where this game is purportedly heading... Sad to see massive 'player-based' funding/pledging going into something that, as yet, does not exist! Why..?
As somebody who has pledged I will tell my reasons.
I grew up with the games Chris Roberts worked on.
Games such as Times of Lore, Privateer, Wing Commander and Freelancer.
I love his vision and his passion. I love that he is designing a game he wants to play.
I spent months visiting the SC website before investing to see how they interacted with their community, seeing how they constantly updated their progression and was very impressed.
As Frying Doom has already said, you know on week to week basis where they are up to, what they are doing, what they have planned next etc.
I love the weekly Wingman's Hanger episodes where the devs let you know what is going on and also give feedback.
Its a vision I would love to be part so I decided to invest.
Yeah its a risk but life is full of risks :)
I could of either purchased a couple of plex or invested in SC, I decided to invest in SC as I am not convinced of the direction that CCP are taking and whether I will still have all 4 of my accounts active in a years time.
Most of the people that I met those 3+ years ago when I started playing Eve have long since left. A few pop on every now and again when a special is on to see what has changed, they are left very unimpressed and do not renew.
Those I know that still play Eve are not what I would call super excited about the direction that Eve is taking and are only here because there is no alternative.
Quite a few of those have also invested in SC which I find very telling. |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
395
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:44:00 -
[219] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:Erin Crawford wrote:Evei Shard wrote:It's unfortunate that Rubicon is so lacking that many people are choosing to spend money to check out X-Rebirth as opposed to buying PLEX in order to grab the latest content in Eve. I agree, but forget X-Rebirth... There is that other huge white balloon of an elephant that has gained, so far in excess of, $27+ million from what appears to be desperate people looking for something else. I wonder what? What is it they are looking for? What's worth $27+million and growing? A dream, a vision...? Image, that instead of that white elephant, it had all been PLEXed into EVE! Imagine the possibilities... $27 million more and growing!  Heck, EVE already exists and has been around for just over a decade and with good reason!!! Make it even greater! Sad to see so many negative views about where this game is purportedly heading... Sad to see massive 'player-based' funding/pledging going into something that, as yet, does not exist! Why..? As somebody who has pledged I will tell my reasons. I grew up with the games Chris Roberts worked on. Games such as Times of Lore, Privateer, Wing Commander and Freelancer. I love his vision and his passion. I love that he is designing a game he wants to play. I spent months visiting the SC website before investing to see how they interacted with their community, seeing how they constantly updated their progression and was very impressed. As Frying Doom has already said, you know on week to week basis where they are up to, what they are doing, what they have planned next etc. I love the weekly Wingman's Hanger episodes where the devs let you know what is going on and also give feedback. Its a vision I would love to be part so I decided to invest. Yeah its a risk but life is full of risks :) I could of either purchased a couple of plex or invested in SC, I decided to invest in SC as I am not convinced of the direction that CCP are taking and whether I will still have all 4 of my accounts active in a years time. Most of the people that I met those 3+ years ago when I started playing Eve have long since left. A few pop on every now and again when a special offer on to see what has changed, they are usually left very unimpressed and do not renew. Those I know that still play Eve are not what I would call super excited about the direction that Eve is taking and are only here because there is no alternative. Quite a few of those have also invested in SC which I find very telling.
I for my part threw those 130Gé¼ in SC because it has PC as lead plattform and I want those shiny graphics. I fully agree with you about the direction EvE is taking and I find that lack of communication from CCP very annoying.
About the trailer: that [cantrememberthename] pilot is a ****** flying in a straight line away from arty machas... get alphad son RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2523
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Posted - 2013.11.16 15:11:00 -
[220] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:(...)
Most of the people that I met those 3+ years ago when I started playing Eve have long since left. A few pop on every now and again when a special offer on to see what has changed, they are usually left very unimpressed and do not renew.
Those I know that still play Eve are not what I would call super excited about the direction that Eve is taking and are only here because there is no alternative.
Quite a few of those have also invested in SC which I find very telling.
Heh, the lonely veteran syndrome is not unknown to me. I am the only person I knew 5 years ago, who still plays the game. Most people I know now are young characters, less than three years old. And I've seen so many people depart in their second to third year, that I call it a plague.
I know that some of the guys I know now, will not be here if I take a break and come back next year. It's kind of depressing, and also how nobody of my friends and acquitances are interested at all with the Hallelujah Plan. So far the only two players I know who have publicly stated their enthusiasm over it are CSM... and they did so because I dared them to. 
I think of the next expansion, which will be as weak as every summer expansion was in the last 4 years, and at what point will be Star Citizen then, and I wonder why CCP can't compete, why CCP doesn't even tries. They've got 10 years of headstart, they've got a functioning lore and universe, they've got -still- a passionate playerbase... and yet the best they can promise is a 3 years plan to do the same they did in the past, yet again.
That, and deliver reheated porridge, wrapped in fake CGI and keep spending the real money and resources elsewhere than EVE. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
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Erin Crawford
1
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Posted - 2013.11.16 16:50:00 -
[221] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote: The why is very easy. Yes it is the vision of Chris Roberts that people want to see become a reality, a game he himself wants to play. Also communication, we know week to week what they are doing, if there is a delay we know why. I suppose you could say it is transparency and good customer service that has people rapt as well as the vision its self.
ItGÇÖs what has me visiting and checking each day to see new developments, concepts, ideas, etc. The vision Chris Roberts has is very awe inspiring!
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: As for that other game, it is what EVE is not, it's a heir to the space games of old. The average EVE player is old enough to have played those games before they vanished from the market, and EVE has been borrowing a lot of people from outside its natural niche.
IGÇÖm, unfortunately, one who was up until just recently, unfamiliar with Chris Roberts previous projects and I guess thatGÇÖs why I havenGÇÖt pledgedGǪ just yet. I think if i was familiar and knew all the games I probably also would have done so already. Also, from the way you mention how SC isGÇ¥a heir to the space games of oldGÇ¥ makes me think I missed out on some epic space action!!! 
Prince Kobol wrote: As somebody who has pledged I will tell my reasons.
I grew up with the games Chris Roberts worked on.
Games such as Times of Lore, Privateer, Wing Commander and Freelancer.
I love his vision and his passion. I love that he is designing a game he wants to play.
I spent months visiting the SC website before investing to see how they interacted with their community, seeing how they constantly updated their progression and was very impressed.
As Frying Doom has already said, you know on week to week basis where they are up to, what they are doing, what they have planned next etc.
I love the weekly Wingman's Hanger episodes where the devs let you know what is going on and also give feedback.
Its a vision I would love to be part so I decided to invest.
Yeah its a risk but life is full of risks :)
I could of either purchased a couple of plex or invested in SC, I decided to invest in SC as I am not convinced of the direction that CCP are taking and whether I will still have all 4 of my accounts active in a years time.
Most of the people that I met those 3+ years ago when I started playing Eve have long since left. A few pop on every now and again when a special offer on to see what has changed, they are usually left very unimpressed and do not renew.
Those I know that still play Eve are not what I would call super excited about the direction that Eve is taking and are only here because there is no alternative.
Quite a few of those have also invested in SC which I find very telling.
I agree, itGÇÖs a little risk. As you say, life is full of risks and if it doesnGÇÖt hurt the wallet, then why not. 
ItGÇÖs just the rate of investment into what is as yet still mostly a vision that is so increadible!!! Again, IGÇÖm unfamiliar with his previous works and I suppose I would share your interest and enthusiasm if I did. I would probably also be part of all those who have pledged so far. Come to think of it, thereGÇÖs nothing stopping me, so I might just do that.
If what you say is true about so many seasoned players being generally less excited about the future of EVE then the next year or two will be interesting.
The trailer for this next expansion does look good and having read through this threads comments and having had a look at some of the previous trailers then, yes in comparison, it does have a very different feel to it.
I canGÇÖt judge CCPGÇÖs developments yet; give me some time and more expansionsGǪ For now, i guess CCP gets our collective investments - seems like there may be a cross roads in the future. However, EVE is here now and SC is still some time away, so IGÇÖll enjoy the present.
One thingGÇÖs for sure, be it positive or negative, hopeful or hopeless, itGÇÖs very interesting to see seasoned players opinions about the future of this game.
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Shun Makoto
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:23:00 -
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Alrighty here's my take.
I love the trailer. Other's can **** all over the CGIness and what not but I like it fine enough. It makes me happy for another expansion.
Here's what I do have a problem with. I completely understand why you had the story in the trailer, but why in the world would you have CONCORD say that Ghost Sites are off limits to Capsuleers when in-game, that's not going to be backed up. As a roleplayer and a EVE lore junkie I don't like seeing one thing stated and then in game not a single thing happens.
Unless you make it so Ghost Sites give sec hits to people's standings with CONCORD the story presented in the trailer was crap. Don't just make it so CONCORD is blowing smoke up our asses. Caldari Independant Navy Reserve Fourth District Patriot Faction Former 22nd BRDU - Retired Milita Wing Commander
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.11.16 17:43:00 -
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Erin Crawford wrote:(...) Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: As for that other game, it is what EVE is not, it's a heir to the space games of old. The average EVE player is old enough to have played those games before they vanished from the market, and EVE has been borrowing a lot of people from outside its natural niche.
IGÇÖm, unfortunately, one who was up until just recently, unfamiliar with Chris Roberts previous projects and I guess thatGÇÖs why I havenGÇÖt pledgedGǪ just yet. I think if i was familiar and knew all the games I probably also would have done so already. Also, from the way you mention how SC isGÇ¥a heir to the space games of oldGÇ¥ makes me think I missed out on some epic space action!!!  (...)
If you're not a graphics nut, you may try this freeware remake of Privateer:
Wing Commander Privateer: Gemini Gold
It hasn't been updated since 2009 and the original game and thus many graphics are literally 20 years old (clue: 320 x 200 pixels, 256 colors, top notch for 1993!), but this freeware remake runs with a resolution of 1024 x 768.
You will not know what fun is until you've flown a Centurion armed with tachyon guns. I used to mount neutron guns or plasma guns at the turret to pack a bigger punch on big ships... that rendered the turret unusable against small craft, but a Centurion jockey should know how to clear his tail.  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
552
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:48:00 -
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Chris Roberts has raised 27 mill CCP averages 45 to 50 million a year in turnover, they got staff to pay and infrastructure to maintain plus loans to pay of like most firms funded by venture capitalists, yet there must be some profit in this so where is all the money going , it's certainly not in eve development. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:12:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Chris Roberts has raised 27 mill CCP averages 45 to 50 million a year in turnover, they got staff to pay and infrastructure to maintain plus loans to pay of like most firms funded by venture capitalists, yet there must be some profit in this so where is all the money going , it's certainly not in eve development.
Here, have some numbers I digged from their web:
CCP game revenue 2008: 41,668,893 CCP game revenue 2009: 51,782,424 CCP game revenue 2010: 57,428,530 CCP game revenue 2011: 63,323,357 CCP game revenue 2012: 64,436,996
CCP marketing expense 2008: (8,524,124) CCP marketing expense 2009: (9,410,916) CCP marketing expense 2010: (9,769,965) CCP marketing expense 2010: (9,769,965) CCP marketing expense 2011: (9,912,335) CCP marketing expense 2012: (12,567,302)
CCP research and development expense 2008: (7,868,828) CCP research and development expense 2009: (9,342,375) CCP research and development expense 2010: (11,127,383) CCP research and development expense 2011: (12,972,482) CCP research and development expense 2012: (16,513,666)
CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2008: 5,532,343 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2009: 6,020,872 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2010: 5,482,264 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2011: 8,817,262 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2012: 4,597,556
2013 january-june trends vs 2012 january-june:
Game revenue UP by 4.3 million USD Marketing expense UP by 1.9 million USD Research and development UP by 4.4 million USD
Notice how 2011 was their best year, with their biggest comprehensive income and the second largest revenue increase. And that, after the Summer of Rage. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
552
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:47:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Chris Roberts has raised 27 mill CCP averages 45 to 50 million a year in turnover, they got staff to pay and infrastructure to maintain plus loans to pay of like most firms funded by venture capitalists, yet there must be some profit in this so where is all the money going , it's certainly not in eve development. Here, have some numbers I digged from their web: CCP game revenue 2008: 41,668,893 CCP game revenue 2009: 51,782,424 CCP game revenue 2010: 57,428,530 CCP game revenue 2011: 63,323,357 CCP game revenue 2012: 64,436,996 CCP marketing expense 2008: (8,524,124) CCP marketing expense 2009: (9,410,916) CCP marketing expense 2010: (9,769,965) CCP marketing expense 2010: (9,769,965) CCP marketing expense 2011: (9,912,335) CCP marketing expense 2012: (12,567,302) CCP research and development expense 2008: (7,868,828) CCP research and development expense 2009: (9,342,375) CCP research and development expense 2010: (11,127,383) CCP research and development expense 2011: (12,972,482) CCP research and development expense 2012: (16,513,666) CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2008: 5,532,343 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2009: 6,020,872 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2010: 5,482,264 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2011: 8,817,262 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2012: 4,597,556 2013 january-june trends vs 2012 january-june: Game revenue UP by 4.3 million USD Marketing expense UP by 1.9 million USD Research and development UP by 4.4 million USD Notice how 2011 was their best year, with their biggest comprehensive income and the second largest revenue increase. And that, after the Summer of Rage.
Perhaps we need another summer of rage lol, but that may be the key, without seeing the figures, I would suggest that the marketing budget has been cut this year and that overall eve development is also reduced as they are now focusing on three games whilst only one is paying the bills. I ask myself would a summer of rage unsettle the investors are they now demanding their loans be repaid early? If so it may explain a lot of the schizophrenic behaviour exhibited by CCP recently and the relentless drive for cash and push for plex sales which has slowly yet consistently made eve into a borderline pay to win game.
It seems to me that CCP are being pressured into becoming the very thing they hate, whilst the player base are resenting the new changes and the dumbing down designed to make the game less niche and more mass market, I mean have you seen the artistic licence used in the new trailer? it don't look like eve, and there's no other way to explain such a shite trailer on the back of two years of balancing disguised as expansions.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2530
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Posted - 2013.11.17 09:09:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Chris Roberts has raised 27 mill CCP averages 45 to 50 million a year in turnover, they got staff to pay and infrastructure to maintain plus loans to pay of like most firms funded by venture capitalists, yet there must be some profit in this so where is all the money going , it's certainly not in eve development. Here, have some numbers I digged from their web: CCP game revenue 2008: 41,668,893 CCP game revenue 2009: 51,782,424 CCP game revenue 2010: 57,428,530 CCP game revenue 2011: 63,323,357 CCP game revenue 2012: 64,436,996 CCP marketing expense 2008: (8,524,124) CCP marketing expense 2009: (9,410,916) CCP marketing expense 2010: (9,769,965) CCP marketing expense 2010: (9,769,965) CCP marketing expense 2011: (9,912,335) CCP marketing expense 2012: (12,567,302) CCP research and development expense 2008: (7,868,828) CCP research and development expense 2009: (9,342,375) CCP research and development expense 2010: (11,127,383) CCP research and development expense 2011: (12,972,482) CCP research and development expense 2012: (16,513,666) CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2008: 5,532,343 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2009: 6,020,872 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2010: 5,482,264 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2011: 8,817,262 CCP total comprehensive income for the period 2012: 4,597,556 2013 january-june trends vs 2012 january-june: Game revenue UP by 4.3 million USD Marketing expense UP by 1.9 million USD Research and development UP by 4.4 million USD Notice how 2011 was their best year, with their biggest comprehensive income and the second largest revenue increase. And that, after the Summer of Rage. Perhaps we need another summer of rage lol, but that may be the key, without seeing the figures, I would suggest that the marketing budget has been cut this year and that overall eve development is also reduced as they are now focusing on three games whilst only one is paying the bills. I ask myself would a summer of rage unsettle the investors are they now demanding their loans be repaid early? If so it may explain a lot of the schizophrenic behaviour exhibited by CCP recently and the relentless drive for cash and push for plex sales which has slowly yet consistently made eve into a borderline pay to win game. It seems to me that CCP are being pressured into becoming the very thing they hate, whilst the player base are resenting the new changes and the dumbing down designed to make the game less niche and more mass market, I mean have you seen the artistic licence used in the new trailer? it don't look like eve, and there's no other way to explain such a shite trailer on the back of two years of balancing disguised as expansions.
Well, it looks like they're increasing development expense (just not in EVE, but DUST and WoD and now Valkyrie) as the marketing budget grows and grows. More marketing means that the game doens't sells itself as well as it used in the good old years, which makes sense because all in all it's an old game, has been exploiting a limited niche for many years, and the two last years have done very few to draw the interest of players aware of EVE but uninterested in its existing content.
If you're selling an old car, telling your potential customers that it's the same old model but now the passenger door won't lock it's not exactly thrilling.
Rubicon to a new player, let alone a non-player, means absolutely nothing.
Ship iteration = ships you don't know and don't/can't use, change stats you don't understand for consequences you don't give a Warp speed changes = brace yourself for a nasty surprise when you start flying the "big ones" of your dreams Mobile structures = moar stuff you don't know, does something you don't understand. Apparently it didn't existed before, so whatever Ghost sites = they're available to you in hisec but even there the NPCs will kill you. Even if you succeed and live, you won't pay back your ship and skills easily with the crappy loot they drop
And then EVE still is a game where the average noob will take the exit road even before he knows he's walking it. Becoming a long term EVE player is an accident, not something that occurs naturally as a consequence of playing the game whichever way you choose.
Albeit CCP keeps trying and easing things up to new players, removing unnecessary complexities and "dumbing down", when your average noob must take 3 correct random choices in a row before having a chance to become a lasting player, things are going to be sketchy in player retention.
See how player retention works:
All ways are wrong unless he joins a corporation All ways are wrong unless he picks the right corporation All ways are wrong unless his corporation does the right things in the right places
To the new players who make those 3 choices right, the game is a blast. But to the rest, and it's a large "rest of players", it's just a long exit road. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1080
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Posted - 2013.11.17 10:43:00 -
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Didn't like it- Best trailer is Inferno. The Tears Must Flow |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2531
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:13:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Remind me when we are going to be able to see the insides of our capsules again?
Never. That's not in fitting with the lore. We're suspended in pod goop and we see through camera drones. Dodixie > Hek |

Ashlar Vellum
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:51:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Remind me when we are going to be able to see the insides of our capsules again? Never. That's not in fitting with the lore. We're suspended in pod goop and we see through camera drones.
Why not, CCP can implement this "see the insides of a capsule" feature quite easily by showing you this. |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3383
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Posted - 2013.11.17 16:20:00 -
[231] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Albeit CCP keeps trying and easing things up to new players, removing unnecessary complexities and "dumbing down", when your average noob must take 3 correct random choices in a row before having a chance to become a lasting player, things are going to be sketchy in player retention.
See how player retention works:
All ways are wrong unless he joins a corporation All ways are wrong unless he picks the right corporation All ways are wrong unless his corporation does the right things in the right places
To the new players who make those 3 choices right, the game is a blast. But to the rest, and it's a large "rest of players", it's just a long exit road.
OMG, you mean EVE rewards intelligence and punishes stupidity? What EVE is EVE thinking? Doesn't EVE know that everyone deserves success no matter what path they choose???
The fact that EVE tends to cull the dumb people (which, as made apperent by many of the posters in it;s GD forum, it doesn't do perfectly lol) is whaty makes EVE great, unlike all those other MMOs that try to cater to the dumb people and end up dying. |

Prince Kobol
1157
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Posted - 2013.11.17 16:31:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Albeit CCP keeps trying and easing things up to new players, removing unnecessary complexities and "dumbing down", when your average noob must take 3 correct random choices in a row before having a chance to become a lasting player, things are going to be sketchy in player retention.
See how player retention works:
All ways are wrong unless he joins a corporation All ways are wrong unless he picks the right corporation All ways are wrong unless his corporation does the right things in the right places
To the new players who make those 3 choices right, the game is a blast. But to the rest, and it's a large "rest of players", it's just a long exit road.
OMG, you mean EVE rewards intelligence and punishes stupidity? What EVE is EVE thinking? Doesn't EVE know that everyone deserves success no matter what path they choose??? The fact that EVE tends to cull the dumb people (which, as made apperent by many of the posters in it;s GD forum, it doesn't do perfectly lol) is whaty makes EVE great, unlike all those other MMOs that try to cater to the dumb people and end up dying.
Really?
So what you are saying that it is a good thing that Eve is very unfriendly and unforgiving to new players.
Every MMO needs new blood otherwise it will just stagnate.
Being difficult and unfriendly for the sake of it is dumb.
You say having a poor new player retention is a good thing, pretty sure CCP sees this as a very bad thing.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2533
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Posted - 2013.11.17 16:54:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Albeit CCP keeps trying and easing things up to new players, removing unnecessary complexities and "dumbing down", when your average noob must take 3 correct random choices in a row before having a chance to become a lasting player, things are going to be sketchy in player retention.
See how player retention works:
All ways are wrong unless he joins a corporation All ways are wrong unless he picks the right corporation All ways are wrong unless his corporation does the right things in the right places
To the new players who make those 3 choices right, the game is a blast. But to the rest, and it's a large "rest of players", it's just a long exit road.
OMG, you mean EVE rewards intelligence and punishes stupidity? What EVE is EVE thinking? Doesn't EVE know that everyone deserves success no matter what path they choose??? The fact that EVE tends to cull the dumb people (which, as made apperent by many of the posters in it;s GD forum, it doesn't do perfectly lol) is whaty makes EVE great, unlike all those other MMOs that try to cater to the dumb people and end up dying.
So you feel proud over your space pixeling? Don't forget to add EVE to your resume, then: everyone deserves success in something. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

M1k3y Koontz
thorn project Surely You're Joking
405
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Posted - 2013.11.17 17:09:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Personally, I didn't find it anywhere as impressive as some of the older trailers (Butterfly Effect, Dominion, ...)  They show much better what EVE is about. The Rubicon one is just eye candy, and not that good at that. The purpose of older trailers was to attract more people (new and unsubscribed) to EVE. This one is just a showoff. However, I get an eerie feeling that this is just a prelude to something big. I bet that the blueprints downloaded by the scanning ship are a bit of a spoiler for things to come.
I like how the new trailers are like a series, with Odyssey there was a bit where the narrator said "The empires are losing their grasp on power" with a video of the same CONCORD agent that was in the Rubicon trailer watching a map with four red splotches spreading across it, from the outside in. Now that agent is telling capsuleers to not go into the new Ghost Sites. They all go into this theme of the empires losing control over capsuleers, I like it  How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3390
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Posted - 2013.11.17 18:04:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Albeit CCP keeps trying and easing things up to new players, removing unnecessary complexities and "dumbing down", when your average noob must take 3 correct random choices in a row before having a chance to become a lasting player, things are going to be sketchy in player retention.
See how player retention works:
All ways are wrong unless he joins a corporation All ways are wrong unless he picks the right corporation All ways are wrong unless his corporation does the right things in the right places
To the new players who make those 3 choices right, the game is a blast. But to the rest, and it's a large "rest of players", it's just a long exit road.
OMG, you mean EVE rewards intelligence and punishes stupidity? What EVE is EVE thinking? Doesn't EVE know that everyone deserves success no matter what path they choose??? The fact that EVE tends to cull the dumb people (which, as made apperent by many of the posters in it;s GD forum, it doesn't do perfectly lol) is whaty makes EVE great, unlike all those other MMOs that try to cater to the dumb people and end up dying. Really? So what you are saying that it is a good thing that Eve is very unfriendly and unforgiving to new players. Every MMO needs new blood otherwise it will just stagnate. Being difficult and unfriendly for the sake of it is dumb. You say having a poor new player retention is a good thing, pretty sure CCP sees this as a very bad thing.
I am not CCP. I like playing a game with mentally tough people, the folks that EVE loses because it's too tough aren't the kind of people I want to play with.
CCP can see things however they want, they'll do what's in their best interests, but I fail to see why people always think that every idea we offer must align perfectly with what CCP wants.
EVE has survived and thrived being unfreindly to the ADHD crowd. it is not unfriendly to new players it's unfriendly to new players (and old) who are not mentally suited to it. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3391
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Posted - 2013.11.17 18:09:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: So you feel proud over your space pixeling? Don't forget to add EVE to your resume, then: everyone deserves to claim success in something.
My real life successes have nothing to do with EVE (although I get a lot of laughs when I tell the story of breaking up a fight where I realized that I was calling primaries, EVE is real, story available upon request).
But as a video game player, I am proud of the fact that I've been able to do well in one of the MMO's worlds most notorious games with a crazy insane learning curve, full loot and a serious death penalty. Why should we, as video game players, withhold judgment from those of you who can't deal with the mental rigors of the game (to the point where you try to sidestep the game itself by running to the DEVs asking for artifical victory)? |
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