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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.17 08:54:00 -
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Serenity Eon wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:i'll have you know that scammers merely have unconventional opinions regarding the distribution of valuable assets based on intelligence
and yes, i am fully within my rights to attack someone ingame for having an opinion i don't like. i am serious. you sir remind me of someone from World war 2 who shared similiar ideologies. People who believe they can say what they want usually have forgotten how it feels like when they find out that their belief isn't actually mirroring reality.
For an ingame lesson, i suggest talking crap to Cannibal Kane, the leader of teaching respectfull behaviour. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
456
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Posted - 2013.10.17 08:55:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Show me on the EULA/TOS where counteracting the bounty system or the block tool is considered an offense. As long as you're not wiping off negative security status, biomass all you want. Actually & feel free to go for the exact wording but I believe the EULA/TOS talk about 'avoiding negative consequences' being against the rules, of which Negative Security status is considered the normal one. |

Alduin666 Shikkoken
Time and all Eternity HumAnnoyeD
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Posted - 2013.10.17 08:59:00 -
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Obligatory 'I post with my main' post. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:06:00 -
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There's a special level of hell for scammers.. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater... This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6182
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:41:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:There's a special level of hell for scammers.. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater... No thread is complete without badly reappropriated Firefly quotes. EVE Online - A Rigged Game |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
539
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:42:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:what's the difference between using a scam alt to avoid metagame consequences for your actions, including bounties, and using a forum alt to avoid the same?
One could argue that one tries to avoid the ingame consequences of his or her ingame actions while the other doesn't want to be punished for some stuff he or she posted outside of the game... Unless ofc. the EVE Forums are now officially part of the game itself. No Meta in the forums, or something like that.
But then, meh.
I've also been the one that thought of suing some marketing company for attempted murder for stealing time of my life...  Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
807
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:50:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Iudicium Vastus wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:what's the difference between using a scam alt to avoid metagame consequences for your actions, including bounties, and using a forum alt to avoid the same? Because on forums we have nothing to gain, but while contributing to the proper discourse of discussion and growth. i have nothing to gain if i choose to start suicide ganking pods on jita gate, but i can't biomass the thrasher alt LIAR
- you get bounties from killed pods - you kill implants and increase demand for them (thus affecting market and increasing profit of your own farming LP alt) - you prevent other people from minding their business (again this positively affects business of your own alts) - you get tears - you get killboard with "cool K/D ratio"
anyway: impunity of scammers against actions of other players is completely against nature of this game "you cannot be immune to the actions of other people" |

Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
60
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:16:00 -
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Forum alt here! OMG don't kill me! Oh wait, you can't -- my owner never logs in to me in game. I guess I'm no better than a biomassing scammer! 
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Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:19:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:what's the difference between using a scam alt to avoid metagame consequences for your actions, including bounties, and using a forum alt to avoid the same?
The difrence is in my opion, the forum has nothing to do with actual isk gain etc, inside of EvE, its a forum for adult people to discuss ideas, opinions etc regarding eve, BUT what you do inside the game actually affects the isk gain, game balance, thats the difrence
Learn to make a distinction between inside a game and reallife ;P |

Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
143
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:27:00 -
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bad quotes check hitlor card check
This is turning out to be a proper shitthread. |

Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
153
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:42:00 -
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Fey Ivory wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:what's the difference between using a scam alt to avoid metagame consequences for your actions, including bounties, and using a forum alt to avoid the same? The difrence is in my opion, the forum has nothing to do with actual isk gain etc, inside of EvE, its a forum for adult people to discuss ideas, opinions etc regarding eve, BUT what you do inside the game actually affects the isk gain, game balance, thats the difrence Learn to make a distinction between inside a game and reallife ;P i've made plenty of business deals via these forums. they affect isk gain. there is even a ******* trade section dude |

Jake Devlin
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
1
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:11:00 -
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Reputation is important in EvE therefore what you post on the forum matters as that will contribute to that reputation. |

dexington
BodyBag Industries Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
830
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:23:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:i don't like your post and want to bounty you but you appear to be a forum alt
you are allowed to have 3 characters on the same account, which of them you use to post on the forums with is entirely your business.
recycling characters to get an in-game advantage may or may not be illegal, but it's an attempt to avoid the action/consequence part of eve, and should not be allowed. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:23:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:post with your main
Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk.
That makes you a main.
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
928
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:26:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Iudicium Vastus wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:what's the difference between using a scam alt to avoid metagame consequences for your actions, including bounties, and using a forum alt to avoid the same? Because on forums we have nothing to gain, but while contributing to the proper discourse of discussion and growth. i have nothing to gain if i choose to start suicide ganking pods on jita gate, but i can't biomass the thrasher alt besides the possible gain, this is one game, and we post with ingame characters. you're still avoiding ingame consequences by rolling a disposable alt for forum posting, as with scammers avoiding ingame consequences by rolling scammer alts
pedantic internet forum lawyering - check semi-literate garbage posing as intelligent discourse - check
congratulations you win a prize |

Alduin666 Shikkoken
Time and all Eternity HumAnnoyeD
80
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:29:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:post with your main Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk. That makes you a main.
WutGäó
Your main is the toon you spend the most time on in game, no amount of SP or ISK changes that fact.
Also if you are trying to be sarcastic the OP already admitted that this his/her forum alt. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |

Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:48:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:Fey Ivory wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:what's the difference between using a scam alt to avoid metagame consequences for your actions, including bounties, and using a forum alt to avoid the same? The difrence is in my opion, the forum has nothing to do with actual isk gain etc, inside of EvE, its a forum for adult people to discuss ideas, opinions etc regarding eve, BUT what you do inside the game actually affects the isk gain, game balance, thats the difrence Learn to make a distinction between inside a game and reallife ;P i've made plenty of business deals via these forums. they affect isk gain. there is even a ******* trade section dude
And i can talk to my friend at his house, in real life about this thing i "will" do, its still real life and changes nothing inside the game, untill either logs in and does said actions in game... Real life and a game |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:51:00 -
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Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Rekon X wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:post with your main Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk. That makes you a main. WutGäó Your main is the toon you spend the most time on in game, no amount of SP or ISK changes that fact. Also if you are trying to be sarcastic the OP already admitted that this his/her forum alt.
I'm not talking about the OP. I know it's hard for some to follow a thread.
Must be another alt. |

Alduin666 Shikkoken
Time and all Eternity HumAnnoyeD
81
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:54:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Rekon X wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:post with your main Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk. That makes you a main. WutGäó Your main is the toon you spend the most time on in game, no amount of SP or ISK changes that fact. Also if you are trying to be sarcastic the OP already admitted that this his/her forum alt. I'm not talking about the OP. I know it's hard for some to follow a thread. Must be another alt.
Also must be hard to read  Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! |

Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
155
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:33:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:post with your main Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk. That makes you a main.
this is indeed a main. as i am a trader, i spend the overwhelming majority of my time in Eve logged into this toon. i say and do what i want, not just on the forums, but within the in-game trade channels, etc., on this toon. i don't need to hide behind an alt when i post here. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1659
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:01:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:anyway: impunity of scammers against actions of other players is completely against nature of this game "you cannot be immune to the actions of other people" i ignored the rest of your post, i'll just leave this bit since it is equally applicable to forum alts. thinking back, i don't even think what you can gain with the alt is important - there's no argument for it being an important difference. what's important is the fact i might want to make you suffer a bounty or block you for whatever it is you're doing or not doing.
Fey Ivory wrote:The difrence is in my opion, the forum has nothing to do with actual isk gain etc, inside of EvE, its a forum for adult people to discuss ideas, opinions etc regarding eve, BUT what you do inside the game actually affects the isk gain, game balance, thats the difrence
Learn to make a distinction between inside a game and reallife ;P incorrect. the forum is a place for characters to communicate, which is why you post with a character and not an account. the forum is not real life, either. i can certainly make that distinction.
dexington wrote:you are allowed to have 3 characters on the same account, which of them you use to post on the forums with is entirely your business.
recycling characters to get an in-game advantage may or may not be illegal, but it's an attempt to avoid the action/consequence part of eve, and should not be allowed. we're all against recycling for ingame advantage, of course. but bountying and blocking are also avoided via forum alts. it doesn't matter why i want to bounty the guy - if he does something in eve, including on the forum which is part of eve, i might want to bounty him. if scammers should not be able to use alts to avoid metagame consequence, then neither should forum users be able to use an alt to avoid metagame consequence.
personally, i'm fine with forum alts. but they're the same deal as scam alts. tolerate both or neither.
Kitty Bear wrote:pedantic internet forum lawyering - check semi-literate garbage posing as intelligent discourse - check
congratulations you win a prize this means i'm right and i get a prize |

Spurty
V0LTA
991
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:08:00 -
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Posting in a 'Typing in local should be banned until you're at least [THIS TALL]' stealth nerf thread.
Sort of like the idea of having to train up a communications skill inorder to talk in local.
"You can not post again in Jita Local as you have not trained 'Caldari Public Broadcasting' to level 3" --- GòöGòùGòöGòÉGòªGòù GòæGòÜGòúGòæGòæGòÜGòù GòÜGòÉGò¬GòÉGò¬GòÉGò¥
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