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Bischopt
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:22:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Stealing profits from artistic endeavors is bad, m'kay ?
But feel free to kill the thing you love because you don't want to pay money for it perceive yourself as special snowflake entitled to have all your entertainments as free.
It's really bad how everything needs to be about money. Makes the world that much less interesting. |
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Posted - 2013.10.21 11:22:00 -
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Brujo, you really have got some crazy in you. Good read though.
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Are you saying artists should not be paid for their work so they can eat and make more works ? Your comment is a bit vague tbh.
I'm perfectly aware the matters at hand are quite complex. There's a whole economic system that has to be sustained so everyone can get paid for their work etc.
On the other hand, I have a problem with how everything gets reduced to being about money and/or profit. If an artist makes a great piece of art it's only because he's looking to make money. really? All the music and paintings and poems and movies... Which is more important: that everyone pays the artists so that the economic system is at work 100% OR that the art they produce is available to everyone, so that it can stimulate people's minds and maybe spark some thought and/or emotion in their dull little heads?
The point is, the economic system of our society requires money to be a part of pretty much everything - but should it be? And is money really all the artists care about? Is money the more important thing here? |
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Posted - 2013.10.21 12:07:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I guess musicians should be happy to just sing for their supper, literally, and be done with it.
I'm not even stating an absolute truth here. Just saying there's more to things than money and profit. It's complicated and it's silly to think that there's an easy answer.
There's at least two sides to this and it would be preferable to understand all sides (like in most things).
I'll give you an example from the grey area: There's this industrial metal band from my home town. They've got some fans outside of Finland but they haven't really achieved world recognition which means they're not exactly rich like some other artists.
They were, at one time, having some trouble with their publisher so they just went "We're releasing our new album, you can download it for free here [link] and if you'd prefer to pay for the album, you can order it here [link]" on their website.
So, while this was definitely them giving the finger to their publisher, it also shows they don't care so much about the money. They just want people to enjoy their music. Some people get it for free and some people pay for it, which is also the case with many "pirates". Even though music and other forms of art/entertainment are available to them for free, they choose to pay for it in order to support the artists.
This industrial metal band in question also happens to be a great live band and it's how they make their money. And the thing is, you can't download the experience of going to a live show.
The point: this isn't black and white. While money is a great power in human society, it cannot be all there is. |
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Posted - 2013.10.21 14:20:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Bischopt wrote:
The point: this isn't black and white. While money is a great power in human society, it cannot be all there is.
Your alternative, and only alternative, is a barter System. Pick one.
You're looking at this from a purely economical point of view. Step outside of that for a moment, question your own way of thinking just for a little bit (...then revert back to it).
Try a human point of view. Money and monetary value is just a made up thing. That's good to remember sometimes. |
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