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IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:31:00 -
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CCP Legion wrote:Once this is out we will be keeping an eye on how players use it, both via feedback here and metrics that we gather. We can then rebalance it accordingly to make sure it is not completely unbalanced or if it is used as a pure griefing tool for example. There are a lot of values which we can tweak relatively easily as required.
I'm not a game development expert or anything ,but why not just balance it BEFORE you implement it into the game? |
IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:33:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:CCP Legion wrote:Once this is out we will be keeping an eye on how players use it, both via feedback here and metrics that we gather. We can then rebalance it accordingly to make sure it is not completely unbalanced or if it is used as a pure griefing tool for example. There are a lot of values which we can tweak relatively easily as required. this one mod is the single greatest anti-blue donut mechanic i have ever seen. the fact that the large pos alliances are extreamly upset that they will actually have to monitor thier isk faucet makes me very happy.
It's the opposite actually.
Jabber leak:
(11:16:23 AM) aryth: this isn't going to crush us. it will crush everyone who doesn't rent (11:16:31 AM) aryth: which means everyone will rent. which means everyone will donut up (11:16:34 AM) aryth: which kills eve |
IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:38:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:IrJosy wrote: It's the opposite actually.
Jabber leak:
(11:16:23 AM) aryth: this isn't going to crush us. it will crush everyone who doesn't rent (11:16:31 AM) aryth: which means everyone will rent. which means everyone will donut up (11:16:34 AM) aryth: which kills eve
This mechanic is the single greatest pro-blue donut mechanic.
not sure why this will increase renters? will you give a discount to renters who activly monitor your poses in a constilation? like defend out poses from shyphon and you get to rent for 50% discount?
If goons siphon all of your moon income. How do you pay for your alliance? With renters! |
IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:48:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Vatek wrote: Renters will pay us x amount of isk per month to mine specific R64 moons in their rented space, they are then responsible for dealing with siphons on their towers. If they end up losing money because their moons are being siphoned heavily, that's their problem.
so you are saying that 0.0 will have to be populated to be profitable? and this is somehow a bad thing? i think its great... you guys can be like the mob providing protection against actual pos attacks for a montly fee. its a win win for everyone involved... space gets filled people make isk and i get to kill people ratting. dont see the problem really.
How many New York Times articles have brought new players to the game with the headline: "Eve Online: An online spaceship game where you pay space protection money to live in a world completely devoid of conflict" ? |
IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:03:00 -
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CCP 'balancing' t2 ships with ccp rise.
While ccp whoever over here blaps the prices of t2 ships into the sky.
Must be an interesting office dynamic.
Dev A: I'm gonna make players want to use these ships! Dev B: No you aren't I'm gonna make them more expensive! Someone edit a derogatory term under his name again! |
IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:30:00 -
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Uppsy Daisy wrote:Aryth wrote:I would point out that no other group in EVE has the track record we do at promoting things that are good for EVE, even at our detriment.
i would also point out that I was the player applauding CCP for their handling of Forex even when that personally cost me trillions. We championed the bottom up income, we championed the tech nerf.
But hey ignore the track record of calling the ball and then cracking it out of the park if you like because you believe it is because we are spinning, or covering our own interests.
Our track record of calling CCP out when it is warranted speaks for itself. We also support siphons as a concept just not at this level of balance because we know what we will do with it. You can choose to believe this is the truth or not but time will demonstrate if what I am saying is true and you can come back and reference this post.
However, if I were you guys, I would be in Jita right now buying up some stuff.
Yes, of course you are. Like the time CCP messed up Factional Warfare and you realised that the new rules could be exploited to make huge amounts of money. You called CCP out straight away and told them it was not good for the game didn't you? Oh no. You didn't. You exploited it for trillions of ISK.. How is that "promoting things that are good for EVE, even at our detriment."?
They fixed FW didn't they?
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IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:13:00 -
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It's just like CCP handing Ishkune Scorpions to Somer blink only instead of them handing billions of isk to Blink they are handing TRILLIONS to goons. |
IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:06:00 -
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Tiye Q wrote:xttz wrote:It should be a bit of a red flag when CCP come up with the cheapest griefing tool in EVE for years, and GoonSwarm are the ones saying "hang on that's a bit much".
What exactly do you lot think this is going to do to the Tech 2 market when virtually no one is getting moon materials without interruption? We are actually in by far the best position, in that we have a bunch of newbies who will run around finding and killing these things for a bounty. Can smaller alliances and corps say that?
The Tech 2 materials market has just been handed back to big alliances. We're going to grief the **** out of everyone if this remains unchanged, and make bank while doing so. CFC space is not behind some impregnable wall. Anyone can get into CFC systems at anytime, and with the new interceptor changes, people will be able to get in much easier. CFC/GSF will not be able to grief EVE with this feature. In fact the opposite will occur. Random entities will start to grief every CFC/GSF system, and I'm not talking about renter systems.
Please come to deklein. Every time people say this we get a few more kills then it inevitably dies off and stagnates like now. |
IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:34:00 -
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Lallante wrote:Helicity Boson wrote:Lallante wrote:Helicity Boson wrote:ITT: Goons trying to prevent a tool being released in a form which will allow them to endlessly grief others. Others write it off as Goon tears in their ignorance.
This is a peculiar thread indeed. Sorry but goons are the single largest holder of high end moons. This is 100% about them protecting their income. If you don't realize they have the people, budget, time and Will to siphon every moon they don't personally own, just for lulz, you are sorely underestimating them. So what? If they do that they deserve the rewards. The original Eve goons (that cared about lulz and tears) would have embraced this idea with open arms. The current, greedy bloated carebear fallacy that calls itself goonswarm being opposed to it just shows how completely ideologically bankrupt they've become.
'original eve goons'
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goons are 'bankrupt'
BINGO! |
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