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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:06:00 -
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CCP Tuxford wrote:Not. The API will lie about the content. Sorry thought that was clear. This is in every way a horrible idea. If you want there to be a window of non-detection, just delay the cache refresh, but to make the system designed to export data from in-game to out-of-game for the analysis through player tools not fulfil its purpose of providing in-game data, means you might as well not provide the data to begin with since you've just made it inherently useless.
This is a bad solution. Come up with a new one.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:55:00 -
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Roime wrote:Tippia wrote:CCP Tuxford wrote:Not. The API will lie about the content. Sorry thought that was clear. This is in every way a horrible idea. If you want there to be a window of non-detection, just delay the cache refresh, but to make the system designed to export data from in-game to out-of-game for the analysis through player tools not fulfil its purpose of providing in-game data, means you might as well not provide the data to begin with since you've just made it inherently useless. This is a bad solution. Come up with a new one. Only thing they need to change is the name of the data stream from "silo content" or whatever it currently is to "output". The siphon taps into the chain after the API data point. This changes nothing but may help people with OCD issues
That just makes it even more meaningless. The API doesn't need to stream static data that is available in the database. If the (semi-live) data export system does not export (semi-live) data, it might as well be removed since it no longer serves any purpose.
Especially since I don't really see any adequately explained reason why the data should be incorrect to begin with. Ok, so they don't want players to be able to use the APi to detect siphoning. Why? What's the design goal here? What's the gameplay they want to create?
Is it to make people patrol their space? Then just remove the data stream entirely and make it mandatory.
Is it to provide a window of opportunity? Then just expand the pre-existing window.
Is it to alter the balance between entities? Then just remove the data stream entirely, since the same (not actual) rebalance will happen.
Either way, feeding the system bad data only makes the system pointless GÇö it does absolutely nothing else, but does it more inefficiently and stupidly than any of the alternative solutions.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:37:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Change is good. Not really, no.
Good change is good. Bad changes, such as making the data export not export data, on the other hand is not good.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:57:00 -
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CCP SoniClover wrote:Let me know what you think. I think I still want to know what the design goal behind making the API lie is.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:37:00 -
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Benjamin Hamburg wrote:Tippia wrote:CCP SoniClover wrote:Let me know what you think. I think I still want to know what the design goal behind making the API lie is. It's about making it harder to detect it while you aren't logged in the game. Want to secure your POS? Go, and actually play EVE Online.
Oh, I suspect as much as well, but I'd like to hear their reasoning. Because if that's the goal, there are far better ways of doing it than making the data export system not export data properly.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:10:00 -
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HmmGǪ 30 pages of questions and worries and no additional dev response. 
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