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Nian Banks
Minmatar
Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.09.02 09:09:00 -
[61]
Well, its done, finished. Completed and final,This is my...
I want to Spend Too Much on my Bellicose
High
3x Dual 180mm AutoCannon II
2x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Medium
2x Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
1x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
1x 10MN Afterburner II
Low
1x Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1x 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Rig
1x Projectile Ambit Extension I
+15% projectile falloff
1x Bay Loading Accelerator I
+10% missile rate of fire
1x Particle Dispersion Projector I
+20% target painter optimal range
This is a Bellicose IMHO gone too far, oh and with maximum skills I am left with <3 grid spare.
Now the only question is, Can we please have more power grid given to the bellicose, its armor tank needs a little more than whats available.
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Enigmier
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Posted - 2007.09.02 11:11:00 -
[62]
thats an aweful setup
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Zubakis
Bambooule
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.09.02 11:44:00 -
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Yes, it's a nice setup you have here Nian. If you drop the rigs you will still have a nice performance and you have enough CPU, so you can switch to T2 target painter and webber. Then it becomes a little more cheaper and has a comparable performance to your setup.
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Nian Banks
Minmatar
Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:11:00 -
[64]
 Originally by: Zubakis
Yes, it's a nice setup you have here Nian.
Thank you, its an amusing yet supprisingly effective boat, tho people always ask why bother because most pilots just don't get the point of Target Painters.
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If you drop the rigs you will still have a nice performance and you have enough CPU, so you can switch to T2 target painter and webber.
I could do that but to be honest, I have tried that and decided I like rigs and t2 painters need a buff. ;)
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Then it becomes a little more cheaper and has a comparable performance to your setup.
The rigs are pritty cheap now, I can make the proj ambit ex. for 5m isk, the other two aren't that much more... If I want cheap I have a t1 version that's not terrible.
In the end tho, we need a buff, painters and bellicose.
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Nian Banks
Minmatar
Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:17:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Enigmier
thats an aweful setup
Yarr!! Shiver me timbers.
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Mudkest
MetaForge
Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:31:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Zubakis
Yes, it's a nice setup you have here Nian. If you drop the rigs you will still have a nice performance and you have enough CPU, so you can switch to T2 target painter and webber. Then it becomes a little more cheaper and has a comparable performance to your setup.
ehrm, why? why would you use a t2 painter? best named has lwoer fitting, lower cap use and lwoer price for same sig increase and range 
(or did t2 painter price come down a lot?
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Zubakis
Bambooule
TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.09.02 16:08:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Mudkest
ehrm, why? why would you use a t2 painter? best named has lwoer fitting, lower cap use and lwoer price for same sig increase and range
(or did t2 painter price come down a lot?
T2 painter is a lot cheaper, for all those cheap monkeys outside. But if isk is not a problem go for PWNAGE painter.
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Nian Banks
Minmatar
Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:11:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Zubakis
T2 painter is a lot cheaper, for all those cheap monkeys outside. But if isk is not a problem go for PWNAGE painter.
That just reminded me, where are our faction painters? I want my Republic Fleet Target Painter damnit, and it better be superior to the T2.
Back to the bellicose and T2, if I did use them then I would looss my missile rof rig :)
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
RONA Deepspace
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Posted - 2007.09.03 15:49:00 -
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Belli is a CHEAP gang pvp ship.
Those of you who are bashing it haven't flown one right at all.
Highs:
3x 425 autos t2
2x assault launchers
Mids:
2x target painters
1x sensor booster
1x 10 MN MWD
Lows:
2x overdrives
1x nano hull
Drones:
3x med sensor damp
2x light sensor damp
This ship does what it is supposed to. Kill any tacklers, light up snipers, and be cost effective. The sensor damp drones are to keep any big threats busy while you try and speed away out of range. Solo this ship is pretty mean against frigates, but in a gang it is much more valuable as a support ship.
To clear things up, target painters help GUNS just as much as they help missiles, the bigger the target the better your chances of hitting it. So if you are whining about it ONLY helping the missiles......yeah, play eve more.
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:10:00 -
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HIGHS: missle spammers
MIDS: MWD, injector, 24km scram, LSE
LOWS: zoom zoom mods
DRONES: lots of lights
Good at killing noobs, just orbit at 17km spam missles, send in drones and hope he doesent have enough sense to just kill them (judging from many forum whines people dont).
It is cheap, I have seen it flown for the lols by poor pirates a few times. Nothing more embaressing than posting a lossmail where a belicose has the final blow 
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Blind Jhon
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Posted - 2007.11.05 22:55:00 -
[71]
hi:
3* 420 artys (better t2) + 2 nos (if enough powergrid)
mid
1 T.paint, cap booster, webber, scarbler, 10mn micro warp
low
3*nanofiber(switch one for armer rep if u wanna)
just orbit around the target and hehehehe little present
drop 3x vespa ecm drones and 2hornet light acm
just remembering 2 thing
in pvp there is no time for tanking, and u are flyng a hevy trakler! not a gunboat or a blastetron yumm and YAAARRRRRR 
what do u think?? :)
BJ
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FinrodFelagund
Rome
Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.11.05 23:46:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Kyozoku
Huginn training!
NO WAY!
Huginns are instant primary nearly every time, I've never been primaried in a bellicose (/cough or flown one /cough honest  )
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Timathai
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Posted - 2007.11.13 01:57:00 -
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The bellicose is a sleeper IMO. PvP solo is a no no, and anyone telling you different is going to sneak you onto their killboard when your asleep. But PvP with a couple of rifters, fitted with whatever damage you like and some EMP drones, and it's a different game.Great for Guard duty< wont say " gate camping" someone might think I'm a Pirate> The Target painter really helps the rifters in the frig vs frig combat, especially against those opponents with MWD. And with gangland tactics, whats the odds that anyone is going to really take it serious and run, until it's too late? It's a bellicose, you'll probably have their sheilds at 75% before they stop laughing. And look at the ISK tag on what I'm saying here: Rifters and a Bellicose. PvE a very solid ship all the way through Level 2, and some of the easier level 3's.I cant say it will Rat in 0.0 but I find it very reliable in 0.2, when the area has the PvP crowd hanging around. If I lose it I dont cry, its cheap as hell to replace. If yer silly enough to be throwing T2 this and that on it, be ready to lose that gear. The bellicose is a good REPLACEABLE ratter and Guard<gatecamp> ship. Throw a Jump clone in it with few or no implants and say screw it, I'm shooting at whatever comes my way.
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Dr Mengel
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Posted - 2007.11.15 16:55:00 -
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This setup is completly open for fationizing to make it a lot better
High:
t2 3x assualt launchers
t2 2x 220 autocannons
Mids:
t2 1x 10mn MWD
t2 1x Warb Disruptor
t2 1x Webifier
t2 1x LSE
Lows:
t2 2x Overdrive
t2 1x Nanofiber
Drones:
3x EC600
2x EC300
Rigs:
2x Auxiliary Thruster / replace one for a Polycarbon
1x Low Friction Nozzle Joint
I use it for gang assistance, kinda like I would use a interceptor 
Why not a interceptor?? Simple, it does more dmg, has about 5500 shield sow I can tank sentry's when holding targets at theyr place waiting for assistance (not to long offcourse lol).
Nobody expects a bellicose to b any good, sow there is the surprise factor  .
It does 4k/sec or more, has good acceleration and inertia is allmoast frigate like and it's very handy for decloaking targets
I fly it with the Halo set to massivly reduce the sig radius and the tracking+dmg+speed hardwirings which make this ship a whole lot more fun to fly.
If u got the isk and have maxed navigation/gunnery/missile/ship skills, sell all ur interceptors and buy a bellicose .
It's costly, it's unexpected, it's grazy GO FOR IT!!
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Ashen Angel
Minmatar
The Drop Outs
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Posted - 2007.12.01 15:57:00 -
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has anyone used it for a multi-role scout ship?
Basically a T1 recon ship?
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.14 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Drek Grapper on 14/01/2008 14:30:37
The Permaspeed Bellicose - *fits with 3% grid implant*
2 x T2 180's AC's
3 x T2 Heavy Missiles
Y-T8 MWD
T2 or J5 Proto Scram
Small Injector - 150's
LSE2
2 x OD2
1 x Nano2
3 x Valks 2 x Warriors
3Km/s (almost permarun with the Injector - cap lasts 6mins) 237Dps with Dreks skills...orbit at 16-20 with MWD on and spam missiles/drones on target.
Have not tested her yet but it seems like it would be quite effective as the speed tank last ages and missiles/drones don't do bad damage. The AC's are there for the final charge before target pops.
Not tested yet but i like the look of this...
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Siouxsie Xai
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.03 21:47:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Megan Maynard
Belli is a CHEAP gang pvp ship.
Those of you who are bashing it haven't flown one right at all.
Highs:
3x 425 autos t2
2x assault launchers
Mids:
2x target painters
1x sensor booster
1x 10 MN MWD
Lows:
2x overdrives
1x nano hull
Drones:
3x med sensor damp
2x light sensor damp
This ship does what it is supposed to. Kill any tacklers, light up snipers, and be cost effective. The sensor damp drones are to keep any big threats busy while you try and speed away out of range. Solo this ship is pretty mean against frigates, but in a gang it is much more valuable as a support ship.
To clear things up, target painters help GUNS just as much as they help missiles, the bigger the target the better your chances of hitting it. So if you are whining about it ONLY helping the missiles......yeah, play eve more.
Agreed. This is your anti frig boat. Best l2 mission boat as well ( imo )
With its great Target Painter bonus, Take advantage of it and use 2. ( like this very nice setup ) Frigates pop like ants under a spyglass. The target painter also helps combat drones.
Only reason I do not use a beli in lowsec, is becauase not all Pirates are flying a rifter something varient, and I can not imagine surviving an encounter with a vexxor.
I get teased a lot for liking this boat.. but then again most of those people have not used one in fleet or missions.
I consider the missing pleasure hub interior a bug.. even if it is not. Please fix it. :P |
Lisento Slaven
Amarr
The Drekla Consortium
VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.09 12:42:00 -
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How does this look for solo to some of you out there?
3x 180mm AC II
2x Heavy Missile Launcher I (cant fit II's yet)
1x 10mn MWD II
1x PWNAGE (Target painter)
1x Warp Dis II
1x LSE II
2x Overdrive II
1x Nanofiber II
4x Hammerhead II
Anti EM, Therm, and Kinetic shield rigs.
My skills 245 DPS with barrage (granted not all of that DPS will go through at 15 - 20km). 2.4k Optimal and 14k Falloff. 2758 m/s with MWD on.
For gangs I would switch to this in the mids:
1x MWD II
2x Pwnage (painters)
1x LSE II
And switch drones to 3x Vespa EC-600 2x Hornet EC-300
Using t2 puts it at around 30 million isk. T1 much...much cheaper and still "ok" but your AC's have to be T2 to get appropriate range.
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