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Cartellus
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:26:00 -
[181]
 Originally by: Donmadefy
mids: 3xMedium Extender II's, 1xShield Recharger II
lows: 2xMAPC, 1SPR
I know there's no offensive mods, but it was an exercise in Theory a la Pottsey :) Gives about 4500 shield on a 340s recharge ... and my skills are only lvl 4. I reckon with Shield upgrades 5, AWU 4 and powergrid mods, getting an offense should be *****ble.
Of course, you can't do much other than passive tank :) However, it's worth developing just to see what it could do.
Hi
4k shield will go down in 30 secs top. TBH i wouldn't spend more time with this. AF are challenging, try to find a good, balanced compromise.
What are the biggest problem of AF warfare?
1) Nos
2) Web
3) Low lvl of shield/armor points
4) Not many slots
5) Not great damage output
Build your setup around these.
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Donmadefy
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:30:00 -
[182]
Yeah, I didn't plan to take it to the extreme, it was a fun set up! Sig radius was 55, which I didn't think was too bad. At peak recharge I think I guesstimated 50 shields per second? I know that's not that great in the grand scheme of things, but it seems good for a frigate.
As for a more effectual setup, do you think passive tanking isn't viable? It seems ideal for a heavy interceptor... but I'm quite new to the Jag, and there's plenty of wisdom in this thread to trial :)
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Heelay Ashrum
Caldari
Santhe Sienar Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.01 08:45:00 -
[183]
i'm using with an alt the following setup: ( low sec ratting/occasional pvp)
Hi: 3x 200mm T2 ( emp ), malkut rocket launcher ( no CPU for arbalest)
med: named MWD, Named scrambler, passive kinetic hardener T2 ( + 37% res), Med Shield extender T2
Low: 3x power diagnostic unit
I know it's ad odd setup, and can be pimped a bit more but actually that's the best i can fit with my skills.
The passive shield tanking setup might appear odd ( usually this are not much effective on frigates), but i compared several times with active shield/armour tanked/plated setup and this is still much better.
With my skills ( still average) i can scramble and MWD almost forever( should be forever with good skills). The shield amount is +2300 ( dont remember exactly) regen peek is over 15points/sec and the lowest resistance is 60% ( kin and explo).
Obviusly it's not "the perfect solo pvp setup", but isnt bad either..
I used it against low sec npc without any problem ( gurista, that's the reason for the kinetic hardener ), and even won some pvp fights. I think it's good as a general setup, obviusly dedicated setups for a specific rules are better, but i like the flexibility of this one.
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Heelay Ashrum
Caldari
Santhe Sienar Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.01 08:50:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 01/03/2007 08:47:39
Originally by: Donmadefy
... It seems ideal for a heavy interceptor...
Sorry but i would not call your setup as heavy interceptor for several reason:
1) no AB and no MWD
2) no scrablers, so u cant stop nobody from warp away. And this is the main rule for interceptos: tackle someone since dont come chivalry ( dammage dealers)
I'm not arguing if your setup is good or bad, just the fact that intie use mwd, so u realy cant call that way your setup ( without any propulsion upgrade). I realy cant be used for intie rules.
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Donmadefy
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Posted - 2007.03.01 10:57:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Donmadefy on 01/03/2007 10:54:01
Originally by: Heelay Ashrum
Sorry but i would not call your setup as heavy interceptor for several reason:
1) no AB and no MWD
2) no scrablers, so u cant stop nobody from warp away. And this is the main rule for interceptos: tackle someone since dont come chivalry ( dammage dealers)
I'm not arguing if your setup is good or bad, just the fact that intie use mwd, so u realy cant call that way your setup ( without any propulsion upgrade). I realy cant be used for intie rules.
Sorry, I wasn't clear in my post. I wasn't referring to my original geeky shield setup (bad for PvP) as a heavy interceptor idea, more along the lines of is the Jag using passive tanking a good choice for a basis of a heavy interceptor? I don't think a heavy interceptor should be aimed at stopping ceptors, so I think we could get away with an AB over a MWD.
AB, Extender x2, Scrambler
2x SPR, 1xNano/overdrive
edit: +speed rigs
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AGENT KW
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Posted - 2007.03.01 11:27:00 -
[186]
Edited by: AGENT KW on 01/03/2007 11:24:04
My Jaguar:
HIGH:3x125mm T2 + NOS
MID:AB,2x M Regolith, 7.5k Scram
LOW:Micro Aux, 2x Gyro II's
2x Shield Purger Rigs (Recharge)
with maxed fitting skills grid is very tight, have to use T1-named where appropriate to save grid.
3040 Shield - can't remember the regen -think its 25/s
Use it with my pirate alt for low sec belt hunting. I got tired of using the 250 + orbit at 10km setup.
Good tank (Hitpoints + regen + resists)
Descent Dps (think it's 130)
Your tank and DPS is nos proof, and the 7.5km can be maintained with your nos. Ideal for killing noob cruiser / BC pilots !
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Cartellus
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Posted - 2007.03.02 09:04:00 -
[187]
Originally by: AGENT KW
Edited by: AGENT KW on 01/03/2007 11:24:04
My Jaguar:
HIGH:3x125mm T2 + NOS
MID:AB,2x M Regolith, 7.5k Scram
LOW:Micro Aux, 2x Gyro II's
2x Shield Purger Rigs (Recharge)
with maxed fitting skills grid is very tight, have to use T1-named where appropriate to save grid.
3040 Shield - can't remember the regen -think its 25/s
Use it with my pirate alt for low sec belt hunting. I got tired of using the 250 + orbit at 10km setup.
Good tank (Hitpoints + regen + resists)
Descent Dps (think it's 130)
Your tank and DPS is nos proof, and the 7.5km can be maintained with your nos. Ideal for killing noob cruiser / BC pilots !
HI
have you thought about removing the AB (cruisers usually approach you, well at least happens to me all the times, as they think in getting an easy kill) and swapping it with some shield hardn?
Also the scramle is sustainable with the normal recharge rate of the cap, so you could remove the NOS for a Rocket launcher and get more damage.
Bang a 10% projectile damage rig and a +10% rof rig (YES you want to rig the AF, no they DON't blow up easily, YES they are F*$ú%&^ng great ships) and your damage is almost as good as a wolf (with unfortunately not the same range)
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Blaznazn Terror
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Posted - 2007.03.05 05:57:00 -
[188]
Edited by: Blaznazn Terror on 05/03/2007 05:53:46
My Current Fittings for my Jaguar.
High
3x 150mm Autocannon II
1x 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I
Medium
1x 1mn Afterburner II
1x Fleeting Warp Scrambler I
1x F-S8 Relativistic Deflection Shield Induction
1x Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction (I'll train for T2 soon)
Low
2x Gyrostabilizer II
1x Partial Power Plant Manager: Diagnostic System (Will switch for a DCU when I can use)
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Vandrakov Xorelyan
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Posted - 2007.03.09 16:19:00 -
[189]
Looking for a good PvE setup for level 3 missions - any advice?
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.09 16:54:00 -
[190]
Jaguar
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
Small Nosferatu I
Tracking Disruptor II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Patterned Stasis Web I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Inhibitor I
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Empty Slot
Rigs : Empty Slot \ Empty Slot \
759 shield, 3.8/s, E/T/K/Ex=75/59/39/59
571 armor, E/T/K/Ex=92/67/25/10
225.0 cap, +3.68/s, -6.52/s
2105.0 m/s
0.0 DPS
1v1, its mean against anyting with missles. If there isnt any turrets to jam, just run.
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Friends Forever
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nails
Caldari
Ota Corps
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Posted - 2007.03.16 16:40:00 -
[191]
Here is the PvE setup I use. The fitting is pretty tight, so the fitting might depend on your skills. The damage though is awsome. I use this setup for Cosmos missions that require frigates. I'm still tweaking it a bit. For PvE it works good, I wouldn't reccomend using any of these fittings in PvP obviously. You can also do level 2 missions and most level 3s with this setup if you have the right skills. I'm eventually going to make it full faciton. Dread Guristas Invul field gets put on as soon as I get a drop off Guristas Extrav hehe.
3x 280mm Scout Artillery I
<EMPTY>
1x Gistii A-type 1MN Afterburner
1x Gistii A-type Small Shield Booster
1x Cap Recharger II
1x Invulnerability Field II
2x Gyrostabilizer II
1x Tracking Enhancer II
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Fransico Lesante
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Posted - 2007.04.03 04:34:00 -
[192]
I havent gotten alot of pvp action in this setup but I have held my own more then once..
Runs missions like a dream
Highs
3x 200m AC II
1x arb rocket
Mid
1x ab II
1x md extender II
1x web
Low
1x gyro
2x shield relay
rigs
2x shield recharge (cant remember what they are called at the moment)
I tank fairly well, never need cap unless im closing on somone, and have a nice dps considering.
Im personally fitted with a set of halo inmplants that kill the negatives of the rigs.. along with max shield rigging..
I love the pirate that mistakes me for a rifter :)
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Reohin
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Posted - 2007.04.03 07:41:00 -
[193]
200mm Autocannon II
200mm Autocannon II
200mm Autocannon II
Small 'knave' I energy drain
1MN MWD II
Fleeting web
warp scramb II
Med Shield extender
PDU II
PDU II
PDU II
rigs: anti-kinetic screen(kinetic res), core defence purger (shield regen)
shield HP: 2337
shield regen: 19.66
sheild res: 75-60-58-60
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Davey Oaks
Minmatar
Original Pirating Material
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Posted - 2007.04.03 09:13:00 -
[194]
I have been using the jag for a while now and had great results for this in either small gangs or solo stuff.
HI: 3x200mmII's(barrage s) 1x rocket launcher (em rockets)
Meds: 1mn ab II, med shield extnd II, kinetic deflection II, fleeting web/warp scramb depending on who has what in gang or solo.
Lows: overdrive injector, gyro stab II pdu
can't get on eve atm but gives around 1.7k of shield and flys at around 1k with okish navigation skills
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
RONA Deepspace
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:45:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Megan Maynard on 17/04/2007 07:43:17
anyone have luck with t2 tracking disrupter instead of a web?
so
mids:
mwd
scram
t2 tracking disrupter
Im just getting into this ship, not sure i like the idea of a 50 m sig radius with shield extender, cruise missile with skills has a lower explosion radius then that, and that would hurt
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
RONA Deepspace
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Posted - 2007.04.22 23:02:00 -
[196]
Just got assault II done, and bought a jag.
Highs:
3x 200mm scouts
Mids:
Cold gas MWD
Kinetic passive shield hardener
small c5-L shield booster
20 km warp disrupt
Lows:
2x gyro t2
Amplitude signal enhancer (For those awesome lock times.)
with my skills I have a 7.78943404295x damage mod on each gun with the gyros also.
Shield resists 75/60/60/60 lol I love this ship.
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Shelene
Minmatar
Eve's Brothers of Destiny
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Posted - 2007.04.28 08:31:00 -
[197]
3x 200mm t2
E90? Nos
AB T2
Gistii A-type Small Shield Booster
fleeting web
fleeting 7.5km scramble
2x Gyro II
PCU i think it was...
and also a ANTI kinetic rig
gives good resistance atleast 60 all and very good dps :)
Been attacking bc and other ships alone :)
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Phish1
Liberty Forces
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 10:46:00 -
[198]
3 x 150mm acII, arby rocket launcher
1mn mwd II, MSE II, web, scram
PDS, 2 overdrives
with a snake set and some polycarbon rigs, this thing easily reaches 5k/s so go wild on the inty klilling side of things
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haq aan
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Posted - 2007.04.29 11:11:00 -
[199]
Can ONLY be done with maxed fiting skills.
AWU :5
Shield Upg :5
High : 3x 200mm II , 1x knave S NOS
Med : 1x scramble (9km) , 1x web , 2x MSE II
Low : 2x Shield pow relay , 1x b88 MAPC (11 pg)
Advantage:
* U will have 3300 shield , with 300 sec recharge rate. Ship recharges like a Small shield Bosster II running full time.
* U will have high end Autos which boost your dps.
* Small nos runs scram and web forever.
Disadvantage:
* No speed mods.
This is my solo setup, can kill 1 0n 1 all the other Assault frigs, ONLY if u manage to web them.Can kill some cruisers too if picked right.
haq aan
Omega Enterprices - D2
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David Devant
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Posted - 2007.04.29 11:58:00 -
[200]
K so I know this is kinda expensive, but when i've got Trajectory Analysis up to a decent level I was thinking of running this:
3x 200mm II (Barrage)
1x Arby Standard (Whatever)
1x MWD II
1x Shadow Web
1x Disruptor II
1x Giisti A-Type Booster
2x Gyro II
1x Cap relay
2x Fall-off rigs
Was thinking that this should make a pretty tasty cruiser killer (kinetic missles and bees aside). The 13k web range puts you out of MedNos and Web range and the guns should hit just (but only just) within falloff. I've got most of the stuff already and i'm just waiting for skills to train. On the other hand should I just sell all that stuff on ebay and buy something sensible instead. A volkswagen perhaps?
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.29 13:21:00 -
[201]
Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 29/04/2007 13:22:31
well my jag has seen quite a few fights and i never lost it!
it has:
3 x 250mm arti T2
1 limos standard missile
emp regular ammo (close range max damage)
1 named AB
1 webber named
1 warp jam 20k
1 target speed and range mod (forget name)
1 gyro named
1 armor rep named
1 agility mod (forget name)
the 250mm artilery is so i dont need to boost powergrid and for close range fighting.
many times i lose my wolf with 280 Artilery cuz other get to close and my 280mm will not hit inside range but with my 250mm your ship can be touching mine and i will still damage you but the long range is not reliable.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Veto. Academy
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.29 13:51:00 -
[202]
My daily all-rounder:
3x150mm T2-usually Barrage S
1xE5 small NOS
1xMWD T2
1xBest named 20k scram (If you feel really wealthy T2 24k scram works nicely but thats more helpful in a gang. You can also fit a 7.5k scram...but I like to keep my distance options open  )
1xBest named webber
1xFS-9 Med SE
1xEDC (Emergency DC)
2xMk I Generator Refits-Diagnostic System
You'll need pretty good engineering and AWU skills to fit and obviously AF to level 4 to get the benefit. Decent tank, nice resists, good lock time, fast, and can handle most cruisers and below if flown competently. I'm fully aware of the semi mixed tank thing going on...but in my view DC's are one of the most overlooked mods in game.
The tough ones to fight with this setup are Ishkur, Vexor, and Arbitrator...but thats probably due my generally forgetting to change overview to show those bloody T2 drones chewing me up 
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA
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yosamitesam
Divine Retribution
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Posted - 2007.04.29 15:11:00 -
[203]
Originally by: SpawnSupreme
Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 29/04/2007 13:22:31
well my jag has seen quite a few fights and i never lost it!
it has:
3 x 250mm arti T2
1 limos standard missile
emp regular ammo (close range max damage)
1 named AB
1 webber named
1 warp jam 20k
1 target speed and range mod (forget name)
1 gyro named
1 armor rep named
1 agility mod (forget name)
the 250mm artilery is so i dont need to boost powergrid and for close range fighting.
many times i lose my wolf with 280 Artilery cuz other get to close and my 280mm will not hit inside range but with my 250mm your ship can be touching mine and i will still damage you but the long range is not reliable.
I run almost an identical setup as yours except I have a best named mwd rather than an ab and 2 gyro II's and 1 speed mod in lows. Orbit the target at 10km and if they get too close , web and kite them 
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Onmarr Shan
Minmatar
Space-Bar
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.05.04 21:30:00 -
[204]
I'm still playing around with this, but this is one of my current attempts. Still trying to find something a bit better with at least 1 gyro II...
HIGH-SLOTS :
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- [ 1 | 4] 150mm Light AutoCannon II [80xHail S]
- [ 1 | 4] 150mm Light AutoCannon II [80xHail S]
- [ 1 | 4] 150mm Light AutoCannon II [80xHail S]
- [ 10 | 15] Small Nosferatu II
MED-SLOTS :
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- [ 24 | 34] Medium Shield Extender II
- [ 1 | 44] Invulnerability Field II
- [ 10 | 15] Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
- [ 1 | 33] Warp Scrambler II
LOW-SLOTS :
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- [ 0 | 15] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
- [ 0 | 15] Power Diagnostic System II
- [ 0 | 15] Power Diagnostic System II
RIG-SLOTS :
~~~~~~~~~~~~
- [ 0] Empty Slot
- [ 0] Empty Slot
SHIP'S ATTRIBUTES :
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Powergrid : 52.32 MW / 73.041 MW
CPU : 199.5 tf / 200.0 tf
Max Cap Regen : 5.17 per sec (approx.)
Max Cap Needed : 5.579 per sec
Velocity : 617.5 m/sec
Shield HP (regen) : 2226.609 HP (392.45sec)
Max Shield Regen : 14.18 per sec (approx.)
Shield EM : 82.5 %
Shield Explo : 72.0 %
Shield Kinetic : 58.0 %
Shield Thermal : 72.0 %
Structure HP : 756.25
==> 67.2 DPS <==
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Kaoyama Ameko
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Posted - 2007.05.16 06:51:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Onmarr Shan
I'm still playing around with this, but this is one of my current attempts. Still trying to find something a bit better with at least 1 gyro II...
HIGH-SLOTS :
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- [ 1 | 4] 150mm Light AutoCannon II [80xHail S]
- [ 1 | 4] 150mm Light AutoCannon II [80xHail S]
- [ 1 | 4] 150mm Light AutoCannon II [80xHail S]
- [ 10 | 15] Small Nosferatu II
MED-SLOTS :
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- [ 24 | 34] Medium Shield Extender II
- [ 1 | 44] Invulnerability Field II
- [ 10 | 15] Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
- [ 1 | 33] Warp Scrambler II
LOW-SLOTS :
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- [ 0 | 15] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
- [ 0 | 15] Power Diagnostic System II
- [ 0 | 15] Power Diagnostic System II
RIG-SLOTS :
~~~~~~~~~~~~
- [ 0] Empty Slot
- [ 0] Empty Slot
SHIP'S ATTRIBUTES :
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Powergrid : 52.32 MW / 73.041 MW
CPU : 199.5 tf / 200.0 tf
Max Cap Regen : 5.17 per sec (approx.)
Max Cap Needed : 5.579 per sec
Velocity : 617.5 m/sec
Shield HP (regen) : 2226.609 HP (392.45sec)
Max Shield Regen : 14.18 per sec (approx.)
Shield EM : 82.5 %
Shield Explo : 72.0 %
Shield Kinetic : 58.0 %
Shield Thermal : 72.0 %
Structure HP : 756.25
==> 67.2 DPS <==
Using Hail S is suicide in a frigate, as far as I'm concerned. Also, against what is that DPS calculated, the standard Quickfit target? 67 DPS is terrible, in any case, specially if you're using ACs. You can pull off 70DPS with an arti setup which can do the ghey crow dance.
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2007.05.16 13:27:00 -
[206]
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 16/05/2007 13:30:18
for AC:
hi:
3x150mm II
small named sos
med:
Medium shield extender II
MWD II
Scrambler
Webber
Low:
MAPC
Gyro II
PDU II
for arty:
hi:
3x280mm II
med:
medium shield extender II
AB II
Webber
Scrambler
low:
2xMAPC
Gyro II
rig:
1 kin shield resis rig (affordable)
another rig is not needed and it will make the fitting expensive, not worth for the jaguar
I would take a plated Wolf (falloff bonus) over Jaguar for a AC setup, because of the AF mass and agility, even cruiser can outmaneuver you most of the time, making it impossible to maintain close range (happens very often, that a cruiser nos u dry, unable to MWD burst to hold range and the cruiser simple MWD out of your falloff+optimal and kills you slowly at 10km)
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Ryo Jang
Central Defiance
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.19 00:34:00 -
[207]
used this one on the test server just now, and seemed to work fairly well when i wasnt being ganged up on.
3x 125mm gatling II's
1x diminishing nos
1x med f-s9 extender
1x m51 recharger
1x v-m15 invuln
1x langour web
1x dc II
2x beta PDU's
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Ryo Jang
Central Defiance
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.20 10:06:00 -
[208]
Edited by: Ryo Jang on 20/05/2007 10:07:20
refined the above to this.. fits with 0.2pg to spare, with my skills. 2797 shields, 272s regen.
3x 150mm AC T2
1x knave nos (less pg than dimin)
1x true sansha web (intys hatess uss)
1x warp disruptor II
2x med f-s9 extenders
2x beta reactor controls (actually, just realised this count be 1x MAPC and something else, possibly another spr, or a pdu)
1x beta spr (or 1x counterbalanced gyro if you prefer)
2x core defence purgers
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Rakshassa
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Posted - 2007.05.29 11:45:00 -
[209]
how does this setup look for lvl2s and low sec ratting? resistances would be changed according to rats.
Jaguar
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I [30xPhalanx Rocket]
200mm AutoCannon II [60xBarrage S]
200mm AutoCannon II [60xBarrage S]
200mm AutoCannon II [60xBarrage S]
Medium Shield Extender II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier I
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier I
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Rigs : Empty Slot \ Empty Slot \
1683 shield, 15.34/s, E/T/K/Ex=83/59/59/59
457 armor, E/T/K/Ex=92/67/25/10
250.0 cap, +1.33/s, -1.333/s
731.0 m/s
58.3 DPS
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Luminous Venomous
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Posted - 2007.07.03 14:21:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 16/05/2007 13:34:42
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 16/05/2007 13:30:18
rig:
1 kin shield resis rig (affordable)
another rig is not needed and it will make the fitting expensive, not worth for the jaguar
Fitting some very usefull rigs can make this ship even more pretty...i wouldnt bother about isks because this ship is around 12m on the market and rigs are around 8/9m...
I would suggest to count the rigs as the 4th layer after high/med/low. Please guys suggest some usefull rigs that can put up the whole "common" fitting upsidedown...
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