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J909
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:25:00 -
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Makanzy,
TJ has kia on his kill mail because 2 mins before the fight we were all dueling each other through absolute boredom, hence KIA on the killmail.
anyway just popped on to say hello and not smack =p
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Der Pfaffe
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:30:00 -
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 Originally by: MakkAnzy
Tjakka your death mail is still up there in your stats as a kill, it comes under your stats if you believe your stats make up who you are please fix.
I'll try to make this simple for you as we have tried to explain it before but you just don't seem to get it.
Just before you jumped in a couple of our members were testing tanks etc which included TJ.
Very shortly afterwards TJ got blown up by NBSI. The kill mail contained the names of the corp-mates that were shooting at him earlier.
We DO NOT DOCTOR KILL-MAILS, they go up as they come to us.
The stats show that KIA killed a KIA member not an NBSI member so what's the problem. It does not appear as an NBSI loss or as a KIA kill in our recently published 1st week results. We can remove the kill-mail of course but then the loss doesn't appear as a kill for NBSI. Would you rather we did that?
Rather than about go on incessantly about this incident, I suggest you study your own Kill Board and ask why there are 4 BS losses and one Transport ship loss missing...
Ahhhh, but I forgot, NBSI stats aren't important to you only those of other corps. 
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maria stallion
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:46:00 -
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this thread looks like it is intended to flame NBSI,
F-E shows no respect at all for nbsi and PA, but I think they deserve some.
I want to thank PA and NBSI for the times that they helped us out in time of need.
If we meet in battle I hope we can have a fun fight without much smack.
I'm very sorry it turnend out this way and wish it was different.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff
ah well
Your corp looks kewl Cartiff, wanna join me ? 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:29:00 -
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ok.... 
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 22:34:00 -
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Cartiff left E-R? whotz happneed?
i fought along NBSI and like alot of your guys, i also prefer to shoot on .5. 
but face it those who did fight .5. did it on an individual basis, for which they have my respect and <3 but it wasnt an alliance effort
where have you been hiding those 30 man gangs before btw? because its been a really long time since NBSI showed in such force ( cant speak for branch /tenal tough as i havent been there )
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:38:00 -
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Since i'm not in NBSI anymore i can speak my mind without fear of spoiling relations with allies. I could see all this mess looming on the horizon for a while now. Imo, PA's problem is that they have some good corps who haul for the rest of their alliance. NBSI looks to have been dragged down trying to help PA.
With their limited numbers they had to choose between helping PA against RISK or maintaining a bigger presence in FE space. The reason PA was chosen,was because it was obviously the weaker link between the allies. I have heard horrific stories from people i know in PA,they were spreading intel about atuk/risk gangs and some other ppl were posting their wrecking hits against NPCs instead of joining a gang or at the very least paying attention to said intel,only to get ganked shortly afterwards.
When the RISK deal was over, NBSI started to make moves for some capital ships in order to attack H-PA in a proper way, which again had a detrimental effect on their numbers in the field. Not everyone has the same time available to play and not everyone has a second account to do both industry and PvP at the same time. I bet that if PA had given NBSI some battleships for free, you would have seen those 30 ship gangs defending FE space a lot earlier.
The reason the coalition is crumpling is because FE took most of the beating,NBSI tried to boost PA's effort instead of working more closely with FE,and some miscommunication between all 3 alliances.
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WilfredTheSmart
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:30:00 -
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House of Cards |
Harisdrop
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Posted - 2006.02.01 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am
Since i'm not in NBSI anymore i can speak my mind without fear of spoiling relations with allies. I could see all this mess looming on the horizon for a while now. Imo, PA's problem is that they have some good corps who haul for the rest of their alliance. NBSI looks to have been dragged down trying to help PA.
With their limited numbers they had to choose between helping PA against RISK or maintaining a bigger presence in FE space. The reason PA was chosen,was because it was obviously the weaker link between the allies. I have heard horrific stories from people i know in PA,they were spreading intel about atuk/risk gangs and some other ppl were posting their wrecking hits against NPCs instead of joining a gang or at the very least paying attention to said intel,only to get ganked shortly afterwards.
When the RISK deal was over, NBSI started to make moves for some capital ships in order to attack H-PA in a proper way, which again had a detrimental effect on their numbers in the field. Not everyone has the same time available to play and not everyone has a second account to do both industry and PvP at the same time. I bet that if PA had given NBSI some battleships for free, you would have seen those 30 ship gangs defending FE space a lot earlier.
The reason the coalition is crumpling is because FE took most of the beating,NBSI tried to boost PA's effort instead of working more closely with FE,and some miscommunication between all 3 alliances.
QFT I think we have a truth to the point here. I sense that everything is based on beliefs. I just find it hard to believe players nap with whom they want as friends.
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Philip Sterling
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Posted - 2006.02.01 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tjakka
Originally by: Mephistos
Hadha, you need to come up during US late hours :/ Usually when some of us are on the only KIA around is Tjakka.
well thx and im not even from USA 
to bad only time you guys come for me you coem with 7 peeps to come try kill me 
and for KIA only ganks check the killboard for my losses
2 of my hacs losses were all 8vs1 ganks so shut your mouth lil OCC boy
or come and fight like a man 1vs1 and i drop you back to s-e clone station 
i seem to remember mortuus fighting you 1v1 last night in his "sh**ty little AC claw" and you ran away in half structure. you're the only KIA i've ever seen flying alone and you ran with your tail between your legs. oh, and don't make me sort through my chat logs for your rediculous smacktalk in local. i don't think anyone really has any respect for you to begin with, so it shouldn't be necessary for me to post things like that.
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CrimsonLobo
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Posted - 2006.02.01 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tjakka
Originally by: Mephistos
Hadha, you need to come up during US late hours :/ Usually when some of us are on the only KIA around is Tjakka.
well thx and im not even from USA
to bad only time you guys come for me you coem with 7 peeps to come try kill me
and for KIA only ganks check the killboard for my losses
2 of my hacs losses were all 8vs1 ganks so shut your mouth lil OCC boy
or come and fight like a man 1vs1 and i drop you back to s-e clone station
Yarrr go Tjakka
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:30:00 -
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I think instead of fighting on forums NBSI should be more concerned about defending their territory. They left the war against the 5 to the FE, while looking for fun ganks elsewhere. Now they attacked FE by an act of aggression. Let's see how they can handle The 5 and FE together.
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Kala amortis
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Posted - 2006.02.01 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Moghydin
I think instead of fighting on forums NBSI should be more concerned about defending their territory. They left the war against the 5 to the FE, while looking for fun ganks elsewhere. Now they attacked FE by an act of aggression. Let's see how they can handle The 5 and FE together.
btw FE fired 1st ask hun and FE post was an an of war so stfu and ask ur ldrship why they didnt warn u
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Mortuus
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Posted - 2006.02.01 23:57:00 -
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Actually Phil, he was at 96 structure points. Was a damn fine fight though, he just didn't have the tank or damage. That web saved him though and he got away.
All around, was a great fight and had my heart racing. I love ceptor dogfighting.
Tjakka is a good pilot, but needs to smack a little less about my beloved AC Claw
Now lets get back to killing, everyone in our alliance needs to beat me in Killmails by the time I finish lunch...get to 24 for today, all of you!
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MakkAnzy
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Posted - 2006.02.02 01:20:00 -
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Only fun ganks I had was with F-E against The Five, now I have to fight my way through F-E to kill The Five.
Seems to me F-E corps should be looking inwards to there problems and not blaining NBSI
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Der Pfaffe
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Posted - 2006.02.02 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: MakkAnzy
Only fun ganks I had was with F-E against The Five, now I have to fight my way through F-E to kill The Five.
Seems to me F-E corps should be looking inwards to there problems and not blaining NBSI
Ironic isn't it... In the past everybody else has had to fight through F-E to get to PA and NBSI. Sounds to me like they got fed up with acting as a meat-shield.
As for their problems, internal or otherwise, I can't comment, but they really do seem to think that PA and NBSI were part of them, which is why they have left your mutual defence pact.
BTW I've never seen so many PA running around empire as I have the last 2 days. Rats leaving a sinking ship???
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Tjakka
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Posted - 2006.02.02 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Tjakka on 02/02/2006 19:51:23
Originally by: Philip Sterling
Originally by: Tjakka
Originally by: Mephistos
Hadha, you need to come up during US late hours :/ Usually when some of us are on the only KIA around is Tjakka.
well thx and im not even from USA
to bad only time you guys come for me you coem with 7 peeps to come try kill me
and for KIA only ganks check the killboard for my losses
2 of my hacs losses were all 8vs1 ganks so shut your mouth lil OCC boy
or come and fight like a man 1vs1 and i drop you back to s-e clone station
i seem to remember mortuus fighting you 1v1 last night in his "sh**ty little AC claw" and you ran away in half structure. you're the only KIA i've ever seen flying alone and you ran with your tail between your legs. oh, and don't make me sort through my chat logs for your rediculous smacktalk in local. i don't think anyone really has any respect for you to begin with, so it shouldn't be necessary for me to post things like that.
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m8 he asked for 1vs1 and i accepted it i got respect for him using a decent AC claw with T2 ammo.
and about running with my tail i havnt seen your crow alone flying at all
and if you dont have respect well i dont realy mind.
cos i dont realy need respect from ppl like you 
ive faught 1vs1 in my inty and afaik all you ppl do is log off wenn you get destroyed well i rather have no respect from a allaince that does that then wenn i do get it cos seems you guys dont have any respect to give in first place
and dont tell em you dont cos ill prove it in my next movie
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.02.02 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: MakkAnzy
Only fun ganks I had was with F-E against The Five, now I have to fight my way through F-E to kill The Five.
Seems to me F-E corps should be looking inwards to there problems and not blaining NBSI
I'm not saying that NBSI or PA didn't fight The 5. I myself was often in M-O when NBSI and PA were the majority in gang. That is not the problem. I don't have all the information, but from what I know, the help FE expected in the main campaign was simply not enough. If you were some friendly corp, it surely wouldn't be a problem, but a different level of participation is expected from friendly alliance. Another issue is your willingness to shoot OUR friendly corps on OUR territory. Sometemes unintentionally as you didn't have the right standings (also communication problem), but sometimes your pilots travelled very far to shoot these corps when the enemy (The 5) was very near.
AFAIK after the NAP with 5 was established, NBSI frig fleet arrived to IMK and started to gank FE pilots, that's how you reacted - by immediately engaging us. I don't say that the current NAP with 5 is without problems at all, but these forums are not a place to discuss them.
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Mephistos
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Posted - 2006.02.02 21:57:00 -
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Mogh, we were told that our standings were revoked and that F-E and 5 would now focus on PA/NBSI, so yes, we reacted by attacking F-E.
As for the constant accusations of going south to attack people, some folks don't seem to realize that Atuk is fairly inactive at certain times. Many a time I've flown into H-PA and been unable to find active pilots, at times like those sometimes people want to attack something, but don't have anything nearby to kill, so they trek a ways, gank some stuff and then come home.
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.02.02 22:44:00 -
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i know for a fact that NBSI said to F-E, that if anyone of the northern alliances nap'd [5] then they would instantly be regarded as targets and attacked, NBSI sending ships into IMK is exactly what they said would happen.
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"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken
One's gotta wonder where they have been hiding ehh?
Are you kidding m8???? Havent you heard about the mighty NBSI fleet fighting excellently aginst KIA miners and killing them to prove their excellent PVP skills that makes Chuck norris giggels (sorry HC i had to borrow this one coz it is priceless  ) and worth with out respect to the Relaion that FE has with KIA ???
"What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mephistos
Mogh, we were told that our standings were revoked and that F-E and 5 would now focus on PA/NBSI, so yes, we reacted by attacking F-E.
You just cant fight [5] cant you ?? Not now and not before
Here soemthing out of comedy with thanks to MLM.
http://owp.millennium-eve.com/index.php?comic=./comics/omgwtf0020.png
http://owp.millennium-eve.com/index.php?comic=./comics/omgwtf0019.png
Enjoy
"What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff
i know for a fact that NBSI said to F-E, that if anyone of the northern alliances nap'd [5] then they would instantly be regarded as targets and attacked, NBSI sending ships into IMK is exactly what they said would happen.
i dont see it as an actual problem that they attacked us, what i find utterly disappointing is the fact that after a few hours of the announcment they manage to field a 30+ gang against F-E while i havent seen a fleet of such size fight the .5. for a long time. and i never saw 30 NBSI in h-pa
out of couriosity i'd like to ask the .5. and NBSI when was the last time you fielded such numbers against .5.?
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:37:00 -
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there was a mix PA/NBSI gang in 9-2 last nite numbering about 23->25..
but they didnt exactly "field" it as such.. closer to "ran and SS'd"
/me shrugs
--thoth
[5],
ex-Curse Alliance
ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |
Zhalakin
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
there was a mix PA/NBSI gang in 9-2 last nite numbering about 23->25..
but they didnt exactly "field" it as such.. closer to "ran and SS'd"
/me shrugs
aww and i wasnt on so i missed it :(
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:41:00 -
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i meant before the nap tough
ah well the discussion is fruitless anyways, lets just have fun and fight, its a game
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.03 13:49:00 -
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PA:
PA brought 30ish to 9-2 when we first shot their pos, but in fairness server was extrememly bad, and it was dead b4 they reached h-pa, and again PA had a fleet (no idea the size, close i pretty much didnt load at all) when we killed it the next day..
last 1 b4 that was the 45 BS fleet in bkg when risk where there, and it wasnt actually to fight us.. we just kinna gate crashed =]
NBSI:
i dont think i have ever seen a NBSI fleet of 30, i think 10->15 is prolly the biggest i've seen..
--thoth
[5],
ex-Curse Alliance
ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |
Shittake
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Posted - 2006.02.04 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
PA:
PA brought 30ish to 9-2 when we first shot their pos, but in fairness server was extrememly bad, and it was dead b4 they reached h-pa, and again PA had a fleet (no idea the size, close i pretty much didnt load at all) when we killed it the next day..
last 1 b4 that was the 45 BS fleet in bkg when risk where there, and it wasnt actually to fight us.. we just kinna gate crashed =]
NBSI:
i dont think i have ever seen a NBSI fleet of 30, i think 10->15 is prolly the biggest i've seen..
Well, our alliance is a little bit smaller than PA, and 5. It goes to figure that our gang sizes may be a bit a smaller. Also add in the fact that a small portion of our members (this character for example) have more of an industrial focus.
While I am not a big fan of 5, I must give them kudos for their ability to stir the pot and pit allies against each other. Good job on that.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.02.04 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: ****take
Originally by: thoth foc
PA:
PA brought 30ish to 9-2 when we first shot their pos, but in fairness server was extrememly bad, and it was dead b4 they reached h-pa, and again PA had a fleet (no idea the size, close i pretty much didnt load at all) when we killed it the next day..
last 1 b4 that was the 45 BS fleet in bkg when risk where there, and it wasnt actually to fight us.. we just kinna gate crashed =]
NBSI:
i dont think i have ever seen a NBSI fleet of 30, i think 10->15 is prolly the biggest i've seen..
Well, our alliance is a little bit smaller than PA, and 5. It goes to figure that our gang sizes may be a bit a smaller. Also add in the fact that a small portion of our members (this character for example) have more of an industrial focus.
While I am not a big fan of 5, I must give them kudos for their ability to stir the pot and pit allies against each other. Good job on that.
I don't think .5. had much to do with it. It was PA/NBSI's total disrespect for us and unwillingness to help that got you inot this mess.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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locus 777
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Posted - 2006.02.04 07:46:00 -
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I love it when F-E tries to smack like [5]. Your almost like them in every way, not. How you like your new masters? You guys must be kicking yourselves over such a stupid decision. Hows it feel to be 'Meat Shield' V. 2?
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