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budy	Posted - 2006.02.01 08:48:00 - [1] Dramatic developments yesterday. Trawling through the two long posts I noted: 1) Huzzah's (Han's Roaming's) disappointment that SA added extra unnecessary conditions on the FIX surrender/ceasefire proposal thereby prolonging the war 2) Huzzah's rejection and disbelief of the SA attack on BoB and their decision to go to a defensive position and not support SA vs BoB Anyway this provokes a few questions in my mind: 1) Will BoB be going after Huzzah as well as SA - or will they leave them alone if they stay out of it? 2) Will FIX be after revenge vs Huzzah while SA is busy vs BoB? Or will they accept Huzzah's new position and let bygones be bygones for the sake of southern 'stability'? Thanks
Lord Sidon	Posted - 2006.02.01 08:50:00 - [2] i'm not fix or bob, but to quote CCP SOON (tm) ----------------------------------------------- . . NBSI = Not Blue Shoot It Blue = everyone we were shooting last time you logged on Not Blue = everyone else
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.02.01 09:23:00 - [3] With BoB backing them up, i doubt FIX are going to want any middle ground with huzzah.
Randay	Posted - 2006.02.01 09:32:00 - [4] Once huzzah starts shooting SA, Im sure FIX will be willing to let bygones be bygones. ------------------------------------------- "Det hSr kan betyda krig!"
Selena Sellion	Posted - 2006.02.01 10:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Randay Once huzzah starts shooting SA, Im sure FIX will be willing to let bygones be bygones. That would be very morally impressive from Huzzah's point of view.
Cealia	Posted - 2006.02.01 10:06:00 - [6] Hmm
Deathwing	Posted - 2006.02.01 10:07:00 - [7] Its simple really I dont speak for all of BoB but I do have my points of view As far as I have seen Huzzah have not been impressed by SA's actions regarding the NAP/Surrender and then the following pre-emptive attack on BoB They have stated they will not actively engage BoB members and will hold and maintain a defencive posture unless forced otherwise Id let Huzzah sit there and watch SA fall No point in dragging someone into a war who doesnt want to be in it and feels they shouldnt be in it Good call Huzzah SA could learn a thing or two from you I for one wont go around looking for you unless informed otherwise <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS
Gibmundur	Posted - 2006.02.01 11:03:00 - [8] sa did not launch an attack on bob, bob set us neutral <3
Shai Faetal	Posted - 2006.02.01 11:07:00 - [9] Originally by: Gibmundur sa did not launch an attack on bob, bob set us neutral <3 --- ^_^ my sig is better then urs, damn right! ^_^
Excellent Miner	Posted - 2006.02.01 11:17:00 - [10] So the SA fleet which fought in pr-8ca (in delve) was there simply to get coffee ? 2004.11.23 03:09:56combatYour Medium Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes NSA's Smelter of Doom, wrecking for 179.6 damage
Edhel	Posted - 2006.02.01 11:19:00 - [11] setting us to neutral being provocative since we all do the NBSI dance
dalman	Posted - 2006.02.01 11:20:00 - [12] Originally by: Excellent Miner So the SA fleet which fought in pr-8ca (in delve) was there simply to get coffee ? No no no! They were looking for donuts too! Thread going off-topic it seems. It was about Huzzah, nothing else :/ Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin. Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
Breki	Posted - 2006.02.01 13:20:00 - [13] Originally by: Excellent Miner So the SA fleet which fought in pr-8ca (in delve) was there simply to get coffee ? WHAT ?!?! they told me we were gonna get tech2 exotic dancers
Greme	Posted - 2006.02.01 13:26:00 - [14] Tech II exotic dancers - +5% to felatio per level.
Kinsy	Posted - 2006.02.01 13:36:00 - [15] Oh my, unique position I am in... I hope Huzzah do the right thing. Im sure they'll end up doing it anyway once people begin visiting each other.
Elendar	Posted - 2006.02.01 14:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Shai Faetal Originally by: Gibmundur sa did not launch an attack on bob, bob set us neutral <3 theres an entire region between you and them, and you don't share any access routes. I think you need to understand that neutrality is not a war dec hmm, i think PA is probably neutral to you, and possibly 5, go war dec em!
Galavet	Posted - 2006.02.01 14:08:00 - [17] Originally by: budy 1) Will BoB be going after Huzzah as well as SA - or will they leave them alone if they stay out of it? 2) Will FIX be after revenge vs Huzzah while SA is busy vs BoB? Or will they accept Huzzah's new position and let bygones be bygones for the sake of southern 'stability'? Thanks 1) Thats between BoB and Huzzah. 2) FIX are free to do as they please, but I could understand if they didnt want to go tip-toe through the tulips with Huzzah after everything that has happend. Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.02.01 14:28:00 - [18] Just to let you know Huzzah have now got a NAP in place with BoB and also FIX, the latter is where both parties are honouring the original ceasefire agreement. So as it presently stands apart from FIX coming to get their stuff from the stations in V2-VC2 and 5-n we will keep out of each others space. We are NOT fireing on SA and have not abandoned them, however as stated elsewhere we do not support the decision some elements made in SA to demand new terms to humiliate FIX who although defeated in Catch did not deserve such demands. The decision to war declare BoB who we had already started to negotiate with for mutual good relations anyway was is also not supported by us. Personally as far as I was concerned the war with FIX was over, the allies had won Catch and it was done and dusted. This new conflict escalated very fast and ultimatly you have to believe in what you're fighting for especially when not consulted before hand. As we didn't believe in what this conflict was fighting for then that is why we didn't get involved except right at the start when before we caught up with the situation we responded to the call that the war had been resumed. The decision made with regard to our neutrality was a tough call to make as the bonds are strong between Huzzah and SA, ultimatly though you have to do what you feel is right and so that is why we choose the stance we did. As this goes on I will be helping Trigger recover the situation as much as I can without breaking our neutrality in this conflict i.e. communication with SA's current enemies. Budy I hope this answers you question from Huzzah's point of view. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Orc A	Posted - 2006.02.01 14:34:00 - [19] Pardon me, but the Surrender terms offered to FiX were pretty "standart". The kind of terms every surrendering entity accepts. Fix chose to preserve thier Ego's and refused to actually "Surrender". Fix will Die. P.S - BoB chose this War, not SA. P.S - Fix Chose the other war, not SA. P.S - Huzzah - LoL.
Raid	Posted - 2006.02.01 14:35:00 - [20] Did FIX admit defeat? If so, was there a post made about this? If not, then why does Huzzah want a cease fire? note: im trying to cut through all this political garbage, so a straigh answer without dancing around the topic would be much apreciated.
Calisto Cody	Posted - 2006.02.01 14:38:00 - [21] nice hans, claps Berneh is not appropriate for the forums -
Deathwing	Posted - 2006.02.01 14:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Orc A Pardon me, but the Surrender terms offered to FiX were pretty "standart". The kind of terms every surrendering entity accepts. Fix chose to preserve thier Ego's and refused to actually "Surrender". Fix will Die. P.S - BoB chose this War, not SA. P.S - Fix Chose the other war, not SA. P.S - Huzzah - LoL. "HAR HAR HAR HAR YOU HAVE MILLIONS OF M3 IN CRAP IN OUR STATIONS GET IT OUT IN 72 HOURS....P.S. U CANT USE FREIGHTERS!" Yappity Yappity Yap Yap boy george Youve dug yourself a hole worthy only of a outhouse You walked around waving your man pride everywhere trying to mark your territory and you **ed on the wrong tree unfortunately. Your own allies wont even follow you into this war because they know your just being foolish now. We started the war? We set you to neut...you come 2 reagons over for a coffee break and a lesson in PvP 10 minutes after you have officially declared war. I dub thee...... Ragnor The Second All hail the court jester <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS**
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.02.01 14:51:00 - [23] Hans, just as a point of interest - what is your response to Huzzah pilots coming to Delve with the rest of the SA gang? They were involved in the attack initially, I'm just curious as to what happened there.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.02.01 14:55:00 - [24] Originally by: Raid Did FIX admit defeat? If so, was there a post made about this? If not, then why does Huzzah want a cease fire? note: im trying to cut through all this political garbage, so a straigh answer without dancing around the topic would be much apreciated. Just to clarify the terms were for the ceasefire that was originally brokered by Trigger etc and posted by FIX here. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Avon	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:01:00 - [25] Edited by: Avon on 01/02/2006 15:02:26 As the great Roman poet Quintus Horatius Flaccus so eloquantly put it: "Nam tua res agitur, paries****proximus ardet." It is your business when your neighbour's house is on fire.* Oh ffs, the stupid word filter even messes with Latin. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
dalman	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:05:00 - [26] Originally by: Righteous Fury Hans, just as a point of interest - what is your response to Huzzah pilots coming to Delve with the rest of the SA gang? They were involved in the attack initially, I'm just curious as to what happened there. If you read the bio of said pilot(s) - they(all of them?) had already applied to join ie-ex and were waiting for the 24hour "leave corp timer". Not much he can do to stop them from doing what they did, is there? :/ Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin. Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
Raid	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:06:00 - [27] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Raid Did FIX admit defeat? If so, was there a post made about this? If not, then why does Huzzah want a cease fire? note: im trying to cut through all this political garbage, so a straigh answer without dancing around the topic would be much apreciated. Just to clarify the terms were for the ceasefire that was originally brokered by Trigger etc and posted by FIX here. Carefully worded quotes ftw: "FIX acknowledges that the battle for FAT* has been lost and that SA has won the day."* Does that sound like someone who admits they lost the war? Sounds more like someone who admits they lost control of a system... they dont admit they lost a war... So again, why would you want a cease fire? Seems to me you were having fun, and with Querious just a few jumps away you hadn't even scratched the surface of the kind of fights and fun you could have.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:08:00 - [28] Originally by: Righteous Fury Hans, just as a point of interest - what is your response to Huzzah pilots coming to Delve with the rest of the SA gang? They were involved in the attack initially, I'm just curious as to what happened there. Our pilots were asked to keep things low whilst it was all going on and at that time we were still negative (as we had been until then) with BoB as we had been the whole time up until then, in fact shots between Huzzah and BoB had been going on for a few days although very low intensity. Four pilots answerd the call for a gang with SA as we had been doing for the past number of weeks and joined on the raid. Shortly after on the forums the post was made about the war dec (which was the first I heard of it) and immediatly Huzzah withdrew support from this conflict. Things got out of control very fast yesterday and unfortunatly one can't be ingame 23/7 to keep on top of things so although four Huzzah pilots joined that gang it wasn't because we as an entity wanted to make the strike if you know what I mean. If it was we would have got everyone we possibly could have involved. This indeed came up in discussion with BoB last night and we agreed that the few ships killed on either side doesn't amount to much when you negotiate terms etc. Hope that answers you question. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:11:00 - [29] Originally by: dalman If you read the bio of said pilot(s) - they(all of them?) had already applied to join ie-ex and were waiting for the 24hour "leave corp timer". Not much he can do to stop them from doing what they did, is there? :/ Yeah Corto left today to join the fighting, he is leaving Eve soon and so wants to shoot as many things as he can before he goes, everyone in Huzzah wish him well, not sure about the others though. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:12:00 - [30] Originally by: dalman If you read the bio of said pilot(s) - they(all of them?) had already applied to join ie-ex and were waiting for the 24hour "leave corp timer". Not much he can do to stop them from doing what they did, is there? :/ I hadn't bothered looking at the bio, was just commenting on what I've seen on the killboards. Unfortunately I've been swamped with work so I haven't been in game much the past few days. Thanks for clearing that up Hans.

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