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Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:18:00 - [31] Originally by: Raid Carefully worded quotes ftw: "FIX acknowledges that the battle for FAT* has been lost and that SA has won the day."* Does that sound like someone who admits they lost the war? Sounds more like someone who admits they lost control of a system... they dont admit they lost a war... So again, why would you want a cease fire? Seems to me you were having fun, and with Querious just a few jumps away you hadn't even scratched the surface of the kind of fights and fun you could have. Ok well that was the third system in a row that had control taken by the allies, the fight would have moved onto Querilous however it is my understanding that BoB did not want to see the war escalate into that region proper and so the ceasfire and terms were brought about. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:19:00 - [32] Originally by: Righteous Fury Originally by: dalman If you read the bio of said pilot(s) - they(all of them?) had already applied to join ie-ex and were waiting for the 24hour "leave corp timer". Not much he can do to stop them from doing what they did, is there? :/ I hadn't bothered looking at the bio, was just commenting on what I've seen on the killboards. Unfortunately I've been swamped with work so I haven't been in game much the past few days. Thanks for clearing that up Hans. As I said last night at least you can see we undock President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Raid	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:26:00 - [33] Originally by: Hans Roaming Ok well that was the third system in a row that had control taken by the allies, the fight would have moved onto Querilous however it is my understanding that BoB did not want to see the war escalate into that region proper and so the ceasfire and terms were brought about. Right... so, the war was just getting good, when a third party came in and said "hey, stop this" so you guys did.... Why is that? Do you believe in South Vs North and Southern Stability? Is that what Huzzah's goal is?
HC MasiEEE	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:29:00 - [34] Originally by: Orc A Pardon me, but the Surrender terms offered to FiX were pretty "standart". The kind of terms every surrendering entity accepts. Fix chose to preserve thier Ego's and refused to actually "Surrender". Fix will Die. P.S - BoB chose this War, not SA. P.S - Fix Chose the other war, not SA. P.S - Huzzah - LoL. you made me wet myself again ____________ HC MasiEEE
mattzz	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:36:00 - [35] I'm not in a position of authority in Huzzah, but I believe it was never Huzzah's intentions to go to Querilous - and that is why Huzzah were backing the original ceasefire. My apologies if I am wrong and someone please correct me if that's the case. Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Raid	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:44:00 - [36] Originally by: mattzz I'm not in a position of authority in Huzzah, but I believe it was never Huzzah's intentions to go to Querilous - and that is why Huzzah were backing the original ceasefire. My apologies if I am wrong and someone please correct me if that's the case. Originally by: Hans Roaming the fight would have moved onto Querilous You were having fun fighting fix weren't you? No reason to stop unless you really do believe South Vs North is a long term goal for your alliance....
mattzz	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:47:00 - [37] Ok, I'll let someone who Actually Knows answer it then. Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
budy	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:50:00 - [38] Well from reading this thread and the answers given on it that Huzzah have done the right thing and both FIX and BoB seem to have recognised it by agreeing to NAP Huzzah. I have to say that Hans has impressed me with his answers here and in negotiating an honourable postion & NAPS for Huzzah. But I scratch my head in puzzlement at Orc A's diplomacy skills. Maybe I am being harsh - maybe his original goal was to isolate SA in a war against EVE's premiere PvP alliance (+ others) - in which case he is a genius. However I get the feeling that this was not really what SA were after Oh well I hope that everyone has fun shooting each other for a while before SA and BoB come to a new arrangement. I am sure BoB will make SA life miserable for a while but at the same time I have no doubt SA will stilll be here in 3 months time. It is impossible to kill them and Trigger is a great leader...
Avon	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:53:00 - [39] Originally by: budy Maybe I am being harsh - maybe his original goal was to isolate SA in a war against EVE's premiere PvP alliance (+ others) - in which case he is a genius. If I was going to be nice, I would say that his goal was to unite the south by giving them a common target (ie, SA). Fortunately I am not nice, and so I'd have to guess that this is just a screw-up of astronomical proportions. TRIGGER had everything in hand ... what happened? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:58:00 - [40] Originally by: Raid Right... so, the war was just getting good, when a third party came in and said "hey, stop this" so you guys did.... Why is that? Do you believe in South Vs North and Southern Stability? Is that what Huzzah's goal is? Well I can't speak for Triggers reasons but I know that Huzzah alone would be unable to persue a successful offensive campaign against FIX + BoB in Querilous so that is why Huzzah said yup, no problem. We had a number of objectives that were met in this campaign, the capture of two stations and the removal of FIX as a belligerent entity, either by fighting them to defeat with SA in Querilous or as it turned out by a negotiated peace. Of course the last objective was to have a lot of fun which was met with stunning success. :lol: In answer to you question there are various power blocks within Eve and we allied oursevles with one of them, currently there seems to be discord within that block however that will be resolved soon I feel. As for a North vs South well there is conflict a lot closer to home as large alliances try to hold onto their domains and smaller alliances constantly try to claim land from them. Throw in the constant presence of NBSI corps who fufill the role of pirate entites and there is a lot of PVP opertunity around. Ultimatly our goal is to grow as a nation in capability and presence and to have fun, this doesn't necessarily have to tie one down to any particular area in Eve. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Shadar Ishaan	Posted - 2006.02.01 15:59:00 - [41] Edited by: Shadar Ishaan on 01/02/2006 15:59:55 Originally by: budy It is impossible to kill them and Trigger is a great leader... I don't know much about Trigger tbh or the whole situation, but going by the map: Pre-Trigger demands: http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/03.09.107.jpg Now (roughly): http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg Doesn't look like Stain has seen too many good times with Trigger at the wheel.
Koronos	Posted - 2006.02.01 16:18:00 - [42] Originally by: Elendar Originally by: Shai Faetal Originally by: Gibmundur sa did not launch an attack on bob, bob set us neutral <3 theres an entire region between you and them, and you don't share any access routes. I think you need to understand that neutrality is not a war dec hmm, i think PA is probably neutral to you, and possibly 5, go war dec em! 1) dunno why I am posting in this thread since it doesn't have aught to do with me. 2) dunno why you exuro mortis guys are posting all over these threads since it has much less to do with you. 3) as long as I can remember PA has always been - (at least since the first time I heard of them) and .5. has always been +, so, um, no. Koronos
Haniblecter Teg	Posted - 2006.02.01 16:20:00 - [43] To the victor go our capitals. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Raid	Posted - 2006.02.01 16:25:00 - [44] Edited by: Raid on 01/02/2006 16:26:51 Originally by: Hans Roaming Huzzah alone would be unable to persue a successful offensive campaign against FIX + BoB in Querilous so that is why Huzzah said yup, no problem. You would not have been alone. SA would have been right there with you. Originally by: Hans Roaming As for a North vs South well there is conflict a lot closer to home as large alliances try to hold onto their domains and smaller alliances constantly try to claim land from them. I applaud you for saying South Vs North is not your alliance goal. If only other entities in the south could admit that to themselves as well. Originally by: Hans Roaming Ultimatly our goal is to grow as a nation in capability and presence and to have fun, this doesn't necessarily have to tie one down to any particular area in Eve. Maybe you understand where SA is coming from then. If the elimination of FIX was your goal and someone came around and said "hey, our goal is more important than your goal...fall in line or else" what would you do? At some point, you would stand up and say "no im going to do what i want to do in this game". I dont fault SA for standing up for themselves. I dont fault BOB for looking after their goals. Where i do find fault is with the people who dont have their own goals and instead of making something for themselves they ride on the back of others because their scared to stand up for themselves. Goodluck to SA/Huzzah/FIX/BOB... to everyone else riding on the backs of this South Vs North fiasco the bandwagon is full... do something for yourself.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.02.01 16:52:00 - [45] Raid to answer you question, Huzzah went with SA's lead oon the ceasfire, as SA and FIX had ended hostilites we did too for the reasons outlined above. If people attack our allies then we help them out, so if the North came to fight those we are close to we would join in. Personally I am not sure that such a war would result in more than raids and skirmishes until one side is ready to take control of the land of the other which would have to mean that one side would have to be considerably greater than the other either in numbers or capability so they could hold their own lands and take the others at the same time. Recently IRON experienced a loss of an outpost due to their forces being the other side of Eve, the outpost was recaptured but then their offensive in the south had been curtailed. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Bedrock	Posted - 2006.02.01 16:58:00 - [46] Originally by: Orc A Pardon me, but the Surrender terms offered to FiX were pretty "standart". yea, i'm sure its standard to request full rights to all areas of Querious when the war was about Catch Originally by: Orc A The kind of terms every surrendering entity accepts. If you think FIX is going bend over for you and take it from behind, then you are playing the wrong game, no alliance accepts terms this ridiculous. Originally by: Orc A Fix chose to preserve thier Ego's and refused to actually "Surrender". Perhaps, but when you threaten FIX's home, their ego's is the last thing you should be worried about. Originally by: Orc A Fix will Die. I am afraid you are SADLY mistaken, FIX will not DIE. Originally by: Orc A P.S - BoB chose this War, not SA. Just like how FIX started this war right? FYI setting an alliance to neutral doesn't mean -10 or a war dec is not in order. You obviously didnt get the memo. Originally by: Orc A P.S - Fix Chose the other war, not SA. I dont know what you mean here. Originally by: Orc A P.S - Huzzah - LoL. Although Huzzah will be an enemy in my eyes for their initial action, I at least respect their decision in this issue. It makes you wonder how stupid your diplomatic skills are when your war ally simply doesn't support your suicidal decisions. I've said my piece.
Harry Voyager	Posted - 2006.02.01 17:05:00 - [47] Originally by: Deathwing Originally by: Orc A Pardon me, but the Surrender terms offered to FiX were pretty "standart". The kind of terms every surrendering entity accepts. Fix chose to preserve thier Ego's and refused to actually "Surrender". Fix will Die. P.S - BoB chose this War, not SA. P.S - Fix Chose the other war, not SA. P.S - Huzzah - LoL. "HAR HAR HAR HAR YOU HAVE MILLIONS OF M3 IN CRAP IN OUR STATIONS GET IT OUT IN 72 HOURS....P.S. U CANT USE FREIGHTERS!" Yappity Yappity Yap Yap boy george Youve dug yourself a hole worthy only of a outhouse You walked around waving your man pride everywhere trying to mark your territory and you ****ed on the wrong tree unfortunately. Your own allies wont even follow you into this war because they know your just being foolish now. We started the war? We set you to neut...you come 2 reagons over for a coffee break and a lesson in PvP 10 minutes after you have officially declared war. I dub thee...... Ragnor The Second All hail the court jester Erm, didn't BoB offer exactly those terms (well, ok, it was 48 hours) to the industurial corp they evicted a couple months back? ____________________ I'm not an idiot; I just play one on the forums.
Trakh Shardan	Posted - 2006.02.01 17:17:00 - [48] this is MY point of view on all of this most of the alliance close to SA ( Huzzah ,Tribe ,ASCN ) are all very very very scared of BoB and thats what this is about nothing els its just a fact that U wil never say that in public SA got U the catch region huzzah what do U do after 2 days??? back of cos Ur to scared tell me if Im totaly wrong but it dos realy look like this and I think i aint the onlyone HF peeps
Raid	Posted - 2006.02.01 18:00:00 - [49] Edited by: Raid on 01/02/2006 18:00:17 Originally by: Trakh Shardan this is MY point of view on all of this most of the alliance close to SA ( Huzzah ,Tribe ,ASCN ) are all very very very scared of BoB and thats what this is about nothing else tell me if Im totaly wrong but it dos realy look like this and I think i aint the onlyone You are not wrong at all. At the root of all this, thats what going on. BOB makes a post called "stabalizing the south" those close to the situation can either choose to help "stabalize" it or not... The fear is, if they dont pick a side we will be next... It has nothing to do with stability or unity, just an exercise in control, fear and manipulation. TS, ASCN and to a lesser extent Huzzah have fallen for it. Weakness ftl.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.02.01 18:02:00 - [50] Originally by: Harry Voyager "HAR HAR HAR HAR YOU HAVE MILLIONS OF M3 IN CRAP IN OUR STATIONS GET IT OUT IN 72 HOURS....P.S. U CANT USE FREIGHTERS!" . . Erm, didn't BoB offer exactly those terms (well, ok, it was 48 hours) to the industurial corp they evicted a couple months back? No. And, fwiw, that was an entirely different situation. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.02.01 18:12:00 - [51] Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 01/02/2006 18:00:17 Originally by: Trakh Shardan this is MY point of view on all of this most of the alliance close to SA ( Huzzah ,Tribe ,ASCN ) are all very very very scared of BoB and thats what this is about nothing else tell me if Im totaly wrong but it dos realy look like this and I think i aint the onlyone You are not wrong at all. At the root of all this, thats what going on. BOB makes a post called "stabalizing the south" those close to the situation can either choose to help "stabalize" it or not... The fear is, if they dont pick a side we will be next... It has nothing to do with stability or unity, just an exercise in control, fear and manipulation. TS, ASCN and to a lesser extent Huzzah have fallen for it. Weakness ftl. You're not very pragmatic, are you? Maybe those forces that have now aligned themselves against SA have been itching to do so for a while, but chose not to in favour of an agreement made last year? Maybe those forces have now had enough of SA moving the goal posts? Maybe they are appalled by the apparent demotion of TRIGGER and no longer have any reason not to shoot SA? Maybe they all actually do like having FIX as a neighbour? Or, sure, maybe they're all scared of BoB? Maybe SA were hoping we wouldn't be bothered and let them get away with it? Or maybe they thought they had friends they don't have? Who knows and, frankly my dear, who cares? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Zhon	Posted - 2006.02.01 18:22:00 - [52] Just out of curiosity did BoB have any intentions of helping FIX in FAT. We fought with Jcos for close to a month on action being taken and only after FoFF got tired of babysitting FAT for FIX did BoB jump in and blow the whistle. Quite quickly might I add. I find it sad that it came to us having to leave to force help to be brought to FAT. So i guess it is true that FIX/BoB never really cared about FAT and only Querious. If that is the case then the ships that we lost along with those who did care and live there was in vain. Quite sad. I mean correct me if i am wrong. I did have nothing to do with politics, so i dont know what was behind the glass door, but Riven wouldnt have pulled us out had there actually been something in the works. That aside WTF was SA thinking. You had FAT. You knew BOB wouldnt stand to let you have Q and you go ** them off. Now you have BOB and everyother friendly corporation on you. Stop bringing all these postive standing people in to the catch pipe ...... They keep stealing my kills.** BTW my comments in no way reflect FoFF's standing or neutrality in this war .. . Bla bla... but are my personal opinions.
Raid	Posted - 2006.02.01 18:33:00 - [53] Originally by: Dianabolic You're not very pragmatic, are you? You sure im the one whos not pragmatic? Originally by: Dianabolic Maybe those forces that have now aligned themselves against SA have been itching to do so for a while, but chose not to in favour of an agreement made last year? By agreement im assuming your refering to the North vs South thing. In the last year, how much has the southern map changed? You think that agreement is still valid? You think the same goals that applied a year ago still apply today? Maybe for an alliance without direction or purpose, but for anyone with their own objectives South vs North was a dead idea A LONG time ago. Originally by: Dianabolic Maybe those forces have now had enough of SA moving the goal posts? Maybe they are appalled by the apparent demotion of TRIGGER and no longer have any reason not to shoot SA? BOB and many others in the south have not onyl moved the goal posts over the years but moved the whole frekin field! You have no right to say someone else has been moving the goal posts. I dont know the background behind the change in leadership so i wont comment on that. Originally by: Dianabolic Maybe they all actually do like having FIX as a neighbour? Then why did no one speak up a long time ago when the war first started? Why is it the only one who spoke up was BOB when (and only when) it might have disrupted their tranquility in delve? Originally by: Dianabolic Or, sure, maybe they're all scared of BoB? oh they are scared... and you enjoy it thats for sure! Originally by: Dianabolic Maybe SA were hoping we wouldn't be bothered and let them get away with it? Or maybe they thought they had friends they don't have? Friends are the ones you can count on when your down on the mat and you need someone to help you out... not for their own benefit but for yours. Time will tell who SA's friends are... clearly it isn't ASCN and TS... but then again, they dont have any real friends either.. Originally by: Dianabolic Who knows and, frankly my dear, who cares? Everyone involved, or you would not have replied.
GigaIndy	Posted - 2006.02.01 18:35:00 - [54] Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 01/02/2006 18:00:17 Originally by: Trakh Shardan this is MY point of view on all of this most of the alliance close to SA ( Huzzah ,Tribe ,ASCN ) are all very very very scared of BoB and thats what this is about nothing else tell me if Im totaly wrong but it dos realy look like this and I think i aint the onlyone You are not wrong at all. At the root of all this, thats what going on. BOB makes a post called "stabalizing the south" those close to the situation can either choose to help "stabalize" it or not... The fear is, if they dont pick a side we will be next... It has nothing to do with stability or unity, just an exercise in control, fear and manipulation. TS, ASCN and to a lesser extent Huzzah have fallen for it. Weakness ftl. Im very disapointed in them. The south sickens me.
Winthorpe	Posted - 2006.02.01 19:01:00 - [55] Edited by: Winthorpe on 01/02/2006 19:02:11 One thing i find interesting is that Raid of Tyrell Corp of the Curse Coalition keeps adding his useless comments to all of these SA vs BoB threads. What is even more amuzing is that you fools keep answering his questions like he is someone that matters in this conflict. He's obviously trying to "stir the pot" and it makes an innocent alt like myself wonder if he might be trying to get the south all fighting each other so that the factions of CURSE might take advantage somehow and actually look like something of an alliance worth a p00p again. What's even more amuzing is that Tyrell is most notably a manufacturing corp isn't it? They make the things that go boom....maybe theyre looking for a good profit out of all this..... Keep it up Raid....you're stringing them along very well. edited for typos
Macsine	Posted - 2006.02.01 19:07:00 - [56] Funny I was just thinking the same thing. Oh maybe Tyrell Corp will wardec FIX after all and show the big boys how it's done
Rift Scorn	Posted - 2006.02.01 19:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Zhon ...Just out of curiosity did BoB have any intentions of helping FIX in FAT... So i guess it is true that FIX/BoB never really cared about FAT and only Querious. If that is the case then the ships that we lost along with those who did care and live there was in vain. Quite sad. ...I mean correct me if i am wrong... I'm only a frontline worker myself, but i find it clear, that you are wrong. SA and FIX were going flat out at each other, and we had both sides set to blue. BOB run a policy of non-interference in 2 sides that are duking it out that are set to blue. Why should we care about a station that these two sides are fighting about - to me it looks like both sides are having a laugh, so please take the tin foil hat off about FIX/BoB conspiring about this or that region. I'm with BoB and i don't even know these things. I also have no idea of super-sekrit politics, and tbh i don't want to, it's not my bag, i just want to watch things blow up. But the second you dec us and drive a fleet into BoB Central, then the chances are we'll prolly fall on teh side of hte other person. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Raid	Posted - 2006.02.01 19:20:00 - [58] Originally by: Winthorpe One thing i find interesting is that Raid of Tyrell Corp of the Curse Coalition keeps adding his useless comments to all of these SA vs BoB threads. What is even more amuzing is that you fools keep answering his questions like he is someone that matters in this conflict. He's obviously trying to "stir the pot" and it makes an innocent alt like myself wonder if he might be trying to get the south all fighting each other so that the factions of CURSE might take advantage somehow and actually look like something of an alliance worth a p00p again. What's even more amuzing is that Tyrell is most notably a manufacturing corp isn't it? They make the things that go boom....maybe theyre looking for a good profit out of all this..... Keep it up Raid....you're stringing them along very well. edited for typos Alts ftw! You can think of my comments as useless that doesnt bother me at all. I present my opinion on the situation. Obviosuly it isnt the popular opinion but its my opinion none the less. Had i not said anything then no one may have considered this perspective of things and it would never have been discussed. Do i want people in the south to be able to shoot each other? Hell yeah i want people to be able to do wahtever the hell they want. The south would be a very boring place without people like the Reds, Triad, Burn Edan etc! I understand you dont like what i have to say, but to bash me or my corp without knowing us is uncalled for. All i have to gain from this is some entertainment during work hours.
xenorx	Posted - 2006.02.01 19:21:00 - [59] Im wondering why Huzzah got involved in the SA/FIX conflict in the first place. If it was to gain access to those two stations in Catch it really doesnt make sense to me. Those were the FAST stations. All Huzzah had to do was ask for access to those stations and Im 99% sure FIX would have agreed. To my knowledge there had not been any other hostilities between FIX and Huzzah that come to mind. Now Huzzah will forever have FIX as a bitter enemy. There may be a NAP currently in place but I know that FIX will never forget or forgive the attack. Just look at what has gone on since SA broke the origial NAP it had with FIX so long ago. They have been beating the snot out of each other ever since.
ProphetGuru	Posted - 2006.02.01 20:18:00 - [60] Originally by: Raid Then why did no one speak up a long time ago when the war first started? Why is it the only one who spoke up was BOB when (and only when) it might have disrupted their tranquility in delve? Sometimes it's best to let your friends/kids/relatives/coworkers or whatever they may be blow off a little steam and straighten things out on their own. When their argument is not setteled and spills over affecting other members of above mentioned groups, it's time for someone to step in and say enough... shake hands and walk it off. This was done. Diplomatically. With someone who is reasonable and with the authority to make such an agreement. A day later, an effort (or misjudgement if you will) was made injecting rediculous demands into (c'mon who can clean out multiple POS without a freighter ffs) the equation nullifying said agreement. Displeasure was voiced over this, diplomatically, where we were told ummm sorry, we didn't like what we agreed to, pound sand. War was declared, SA flew into BoB space. (and got spanked hard I might add.) That's the bottom line m8, regardless of what those voices in that tinfoil hat are saying to you. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.

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