As 4 months have past what is your view on the hacking mini-game.

(For comments on loot spew post here.)

Every person who replies that they hate it are doing it solo. I do it in a group and it pays quite well. Most I have made so far is 375 mil an hour. Average is about 225 mil an hour.

But then that's the problem with it, if it was feasible to do the very best sites solo everyone would be doing it, making a billion an hour plus.

So people do the best sites they can solo and its too much work and not lucrative enough. Bummer.

Did a one week hacking round trip through 0.0. I will not engage in this feature ever again. It is dull, dumb, boring, RSI inducing and it hurts my eye sight. Significantly!

Being an older player with arthritis I find the new 'hacking minigame' quite painful after a while.

I enjoy it, be nice if it was a little more skill base rather than chance based though.

I think they should make the mini-game harder and increase the reward.

My hacking skills are minimal and I can successfully Hack an average of 5 out of 6 each time.

The Idea of the minigame was nice. Bringing a player to be more involved in the hacking/analysing attempts. But the way it was implemented I don't consider a success. Way too many clicks required for each instance of it, and you have to do it 4+ times per site. It adds up very quickly.

Also, hacking and analysing minigames are absolutely the same, differing only in module you use. That's not good at all.

On the contrary, I think this is best. Better to have one game thats decent than two that are broken, or one thats better than the other, or a two separate games that individually are simpler. Maybe give the background of the boards a different visual flavor or something, that i could get behind.

It is a lot of clicks, but there's not a better way to go about it.

I think this is ideal. Lvl 4 skills with a bonused ship should work for most content. I still found hacking 5 to be worthwhile (trained it after rubicon released), simply because it makes hacking faster and easier.

There's no way? Are you sure? It should go toward simple game but require player thinking, trained skills, good hacking and not rely on player routine mistakes. Where the point of training skills then? Click click.

You wouldn't want to play a game of chess each time you hack lol

As a serious thought: How about algebra or correcting pseudocode?

As a serious thought: How about algebra or correcting pseudocode?

mini-GAME

Beginners questions, can't we just drop a Mobile Tractor Unit to gather all those cans for us?

Also is exploration really that bad? I've been doing PVP for a long time and was hoping for something different but the comments here, Jesus..

As 4 months have past what is your view on the hacking mini-game.

(For comments on loot spew post here.)

Beginners questions, can't we just drop a Mobile Tractor Unit to gather all those cans for us? Also is exploration really that bad? I've been doing PVP for a long time and was hoping for something different but the comments here, Jesus..

Exploration is a beginner job, but not for players with more than 10 mio SP. The hacking crap is not a game, it is just a time sink, u dont need any skill or inteligence to solve it. once urskills are level 3 u cant fail it anyway. Saw a russian tool at a friend which reveals where the core is, saves a bit of time.

Russians cheating? No way....
If you have level3 skills, you will fail a lot of cans in nullsec. Period.

Confirming I have level 3 skills and not failing

Relic and data sites are pretty worthless. On the market are thousands of offers, price is crashed to nothing. Better to waitin low or 0 for a player desperate enough to explore in low and 0 and kill him. Best moment to decloak is when loot spew starts then engage. Most of them have more loot than 0sec sites and give more T2 salvage than 10 sites in 0.

Exploration is a beginner job, but not for players with more than 10 mio SP. The hacking crap is not a game, it is just a time sink, u dont need any skill or inteligence to solve it. once urskills are level 3 u cant fail it anyway. Saw a russian tool at a friend which reveals where the core is, saves a bit of time.

Relic sites are sure as hell not worthless, i do most of my exploration down in low and i can gurantee that each site (except the odd shoddy hi sec style one that spawns in) will be worth at minimum 12 mil.

Hacked my first low sec relic site yesterday. 14 mil worth loot. It was strange that cans had different cores (green/yellow). Its hard to find sites in low. Most of them are wormholes.

Sites respawn must be 100% random in the entire time zone.

Sites respawn must be 100% random in the entire time zone.

I like the hacking minigame, tbh. Sure, it's a bit simplistic and random, but imo it has insane potential if CCP works on creating different mechanics for different sites - it could even be incorporated into pvp.

It's just that "entire zone" also includes less traveled pockets.

By "entire zone" you meant new eden or low sex?

Yesterday i have system with 7 sigs= 5 wormholes, 2 combat. Most times its wormhole on scanner.

They are. It's just that "entire zone" also includes less traveled pockets. Get off the main paths and you'll find a lot more sigs.

...especially in WH space where each site has 5-20 cans to hack...

I came back to eve after a few years off. scanning is different, much easier. I didn't mind the hacking game but hated loot spew when I got back. but after learning about can contents and shop scanners I've become indifferent to loot spew but I've learned to hate the hacking game. it's designed to make explorers more vulnerable -- which is fine, but it's tedious as hell. easily the least fun part of the experience.

Dislike intensely, and have stopped running them.

Did a one week hacking round trip through 0.0. I will not engage in this feature ever again. It is dull, dumb, boring, RSI inducing and it hurts my eye sight. Significantly!