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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:38:00 -
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Hi! We are planning a mass test on Singularity on Thursday, October 24th, at 17:00 UTC (= EVE time).
What exactly is being tested?
- Test client and server performance in Rubicon
- Test database performance and stability
- Some features for Rubicon: DX11 support, warp disruption bubbles, deployables, warp speed changes
How to connect to Singularity for this test:
Test steps:
- Meet in FD-MLJ at the gate to X-BV98
- Jump to X-BV98
- Align to planet 1
- Fleet-warps to planet 1 (different range per fleet)
- Try to mass-deploy deployables
- Wing warps (if possible with alignment)
- Squad warps to POS beacon, with alignment to POS
- Shoot the control tower (which has siphon units)
- Align to Poitot gate
- Fleet 1: Jump to Poitot and setup gate camp (with bubbles)
- Fleet 2: Jump to Poitot + fight a the gate
What else should I know?
- We will be moving players to the test system - join the channel massmoveme
- Please bring many different ships, we will provide cynos for capitals (but sub-capitals are preferred)
- Skill points will be awarded on Singularity for this mass test
- If possible: Bring deployables and warp disruption bubbles (more details later).
Important: Change your DX setting the launcher to DX11 as soon as Rubicon is back on Singularity, if you changed it to DX9 for the previous build. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock-á Bug reporting | Mass Testing |
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:31:00 -
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I will not be able to do this test as it is not during or near my lunch hour (as most previous mass tests were). So you will have to get along without the only Mac user who gives feedback in the feedback thread. |

Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
77
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Posted - 2013.10.22 22:07:00 -
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From the news post on the client:
"We are planning a mass test on-áSingularity to asses the performance of new features, the client..."
The word is "assess", unless you this is some form of slang that I am not aware of... |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:02:00 -
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To expand on the "Test database performance and stability" bullet point then we are planning to upgrade TQ's primary game cluster database from Microsoft SQL Server 2008 to 2012 in early December. SiSi will be connected to a 2012 database instance for this test and this is one of final steps of a long process to upgrade TQ. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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Viaharo Musa
United Evian Peace Corp Academy United Evian Peace Nation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:35:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:To expand on the "Test database performance and stability" bullet point then we are planning to upgrade TQ's primary game cluster database from Microsoft SQL Server 2008 to 2012 in early December. SiSi will be connected to a 2012 database instance for this test and this is one of final steps of a long process to upgrade TQ.
As a Fellow MS Sql 2012 devloper (my own software dev company lol). Watch out with server 2012 and extreme amounts of I/O to tables. There were a few glitches i found under high load that were easily fixed by a few well documented registry "hacks" on the msdn site :-) easy to apply, and fixed the issues right up for my applications. GOOD LUCK |
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
214

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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:24:00 -
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Gaia Ma'chello wrote:I will not be able to do this test as it is not during or near my lunch hour (as most previous mass tests were). So you will have to get along without the only Mac user who gives feedback in the feedback thread.
There will be additional mass tests at a later point that you will hopefully be able to attend. CCP Vertex-á |-á-áLead Graphics Quality Analyst-á |-á Team Trilambda
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting
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Rhalith
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
0
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:06:00 -
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Hi,
I've just updated my SiSi install in preparation for the mass test and it wont load with the launcher set to DX11, it just loads with a black screen and a cursor, I could also hear the audio of the first run game intro
If I kill the application and set it to DX9 on the launcher it loads correctly
I am running the ATI beta drivers 13.10 for BF4 beta, so i've now updated them to 13.11 beta's and its still the same.. |

Shantetha
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:29:00 -
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Rhalith wrote:Hi,
I've just updated my SiSi install in preparation for the mass test and it wont load with the launcher set to DX11, it just loads with a black screen and a cursor, I could also hear the audio of the first run game intro
If I kill the application and set it to DX9 on the launcher it loads correctly
I am running the ATI beta drivers 13.10 for BF4 beta, so i've now updated them to 13.11 beta's and its still the same..
Sisi is currently running the Odyssey 1.2 patch from this weekend, not Rubicon. They said they would update it on Wednesday to Rubicon just in time for the mass test. thats why dx11 wont work currently. See link and quote below.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3768097#post3768097
CCP Habakuk wrote:Necrosius DeathGuard wrote:First thanks for the fast answere!
Then, when will the new patch be applied on the test server? We are planning to apply the new patch on Wednesday, just in time for a mass test, which is planned for Thursday (more information tomorrow). |

DjZaze Dybmose
Members of The Light
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Posted - 2013.10.23 06:45:00 -
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Hi will the 2 mill skillpoints be available on tranquility server when the test is completed? |

Rahool
Exiled Kings SCUM.
9
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Posted - 2013.10.23 07:49:00 -
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Hi,
How many SP's will we receive for participating, and will these SP's be available on TQ? |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
860
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Posted - 2013.10.23 07:54:00 -
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DjZaze Dybmose wrote:Hi will the 2 mill skillpoints be available on tranquility server when the test is completed?
Rahool wrote:Hi,
How many SP's will we receive for participating, and will these SP's be available on TQ?
No. Singularity only. |

Rahool
Exiled Kings SCUM.
9
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:03:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:DjZaze Dybmose wrote:Hi will the 2 mill skillpoints be available on tranquility server when the test is completed? Rahool wrote:Hi,
How many SP's will we receive for participating, and will these SP's be available on TQ? No. Singularity only.
Seriously? Doubt I'll bother then. |

DjZaze Dybmose
Members of The Light
0
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:24:00 -
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Rahool wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:DjZaze Dybmose wrote:Hi will the 2 mill skillpoints be available on tranquility server when the test is completed? Rahool wrote:Hi,
How many SP's will we receive for participating, and will these SP's be available on TQ? No. Singularity only. Seriously? Doubt I'll bother then.
well how can those 2 mill sp be of use if we can't use them in the real game?
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Dolph Carebear
Adohivatal
51
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:36:00 -
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DjZaze Dybmose wrote:Rahool wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:DjZaze Dybmose wrote:Hi will the 2 mill skillpoints be available on tranquility server when the test is completed? Rahool wrote:Hi,
How many SP's will we receive for participating, and will these SP's be available on TQ? No. Singularity only. Seriously? Doubt I'll bother then. well how can those 2 mill sp be of use if we can't use them in the real game?
Srsly. Make the reward 50k instead but on TQ and you'll get unprecedented numbers. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1756

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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:25:00 -
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Dolph Carebear wrote:DjZaze Dybmose wrote:Rahool wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:DjZaze Dybmose wrote:Hi will the 2 mill skillpoints be available on tranquility server when the test is completed? Rahool wrote:Hi,
How many SP's will we receive for participating, and will these SP's be available on TQ? No. Singularity only. Seriously? Doubt I'll bother then. well how can those 2 mill sp be of use if we can't use them in the real game? Srsly. Make the reward 50k instead but on TQ and you'll get unprecedented numbers.
The SP are rewards for people who want to test out fits/ships on Singularity before commiting to them on TQ. Giving out SP on TQ would result in more attendance than our test server could handle, I would wager :)
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Rahool
Exiled Kings SCUM.
9
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:50:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:
The SP are rewards for people who want to test out fits/ships on Singularity before commiting to them on TQ. Giving out SP on TQ would result in more attendance than our test server could handle, I would wager :)
Ok, give me 200 million SP so as I can try out every ship and fitting that EVE has to offer so as I can train for these ships on TQ if I like them. |

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
661
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:51:00 -
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If you need a reward on TQ to attend to mass tests, I'm sure everyone will be fine without you 
2mil on sisi allows to try out different things, and that's enough for me and plenty of others ! Plus we have a fun fight with basically free ships, so yeah, that's cool !
Edit : On many other games, the only benefit of the test server is to see the next update before everyone else.. And people find that it's enough. Here we also have this shiny reward, you should be happy, but you always complain for more ! G££ <= Me |

Matthew97
Dat Tax
225
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:55:00 -
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Altrue wrote:If you need a reward on TQ to attend to mass tests, I'm sure everyone will be fine without you 
This ^
In other news, when will we get some more info regarding " Bring deployables and warp disruption bubbles "? Run level 4 missions? Don't want to salvage? Let us salvage for you, and then pay you for it! -áJoin our Channel: Pro Synergy
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DjZaze Dybmose
Members of The Light
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Posted - 2013.10.23 10:55:00 -
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The SP are rewards for people who want to test out fits/ships on Singularity before commiting to them on TQ. Giving out SP on TQ would result in more attendance than our test server could handle, I would wager :)
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ok so anything i do on singularity server will not affect my character on the tq server? :) |

Matthew97
Dat Tax
225
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:24:00 -
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DjZaze Dybmose wrote:Rahool wrote:[quote=CCP Goliath]
The SP are rewards for people who want to test out fits/ships on Singularity before commiting to them on TQ. Giving out SP on TQ would result in more attendance than our test server could handle, I would wager :)
ok so anything i do on singularity server will not affect my character on the tq server? :)
Anything occurring on Singularity doesn't effect TQ in any way, unless you **** someone off and they decide to hunt you on TQ. Run level 4 missions? Don't want to salvage? Let us salvage for you, and then pay you for it! -áJoin our Channel: Pro Synergy
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Rahool
Exiled Kings SCUM.
9
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:37:00 -
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Altrue wrote:If you need a reward on TQ to attend to mass tests, I'm sure everyone will be fine without you  2mil on sisi allows to try out different things, and that's enough for me and plenty of others ! Plus we have a fun fight with basically free ships, so yeah, that's cool ! Edit : On many other games, the only benefit of the test server is to see the next update before everyone else.. And people find that it's enough. Here we also have this shiny reward, you should be happy, but you always complain for more !
Gobble gobble gobble, no seriousy, gobble gobble gobble!
2mill SP is a nice bonus, however, it would be interesting to be able to try everything out, which is why I would like 200mill SP. |

Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
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Posted - 2013.10.23 12:07:00 -
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Rahool wrote:Altrue wrote:If you need a reward on TQ to attend to mass tests, I'm sure everyone will be fine without you  2mil on sisi allows to try out different things, and that's enough for me and plenty of others ! Plus we have a fun fight with basically free ships, so yeah, that's cool ! Edit : On many other games, the only benefit of the test server is to see the next update before everyone else.. And people find that it's enough. Here we also have this shiny reward, you should be happy, but you always complain for more ! Gobble gobble gobble, no seriousy, gobble gobble gobble! 2mill SP is a nice bonus, however, it would be interesting to be able to try everything out, which is why I would like 200mill SP.
Then there would be no incentive to attend other masstests, You're only thinking about here and now and being selfish. 200mil would also pretty much ruin test server as every one and their mother would be in dreads. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2230
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:20:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:
The SP are rewards for people who want to test out fits/ships on Singularity before commiting to them on TQ. Giving out SP on TQ would result in more attendance than our test server could handle, I would wager :)
An ISK reward might be OK, as long as it was about as much ISK as you would ave made if you spent that same amount of time making ISK on TQ. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
19
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:21:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:
The SP are rewards for people who want to test out fits/ships on Singularity before commiting to them on TQ. Giving out SP on TQ would result in more attendance than our test server could handle, I would wager :)
An ISK reward might be OK, as long as it was about as much ISK as you would ave made if you spent that same amount of time making ISK on TQ.
That makes sense, some compensation on TQ for your time. Lets not make this profitable though :P. SP seems like enough of a reward/form of compensation already though. Putting up a Sign saying FREE ISK might break SiSi. |

Rahool
Exiled Kings SCUM.
9
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:29:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:
The SP are rewards for people who want to test out fits/ships on Singularity before commiting to them on TQ. Giving out SP on TQ would result in more attendance than our test server could handle, I would wager :)
An ISK reward might be OK, as long as it was about as much ISK as you would ave made if you spent that same amount of time making ISK on TQ.
I like this idea, I make 2billion ISK every hour on TQ. |

Rahool
Exiled Kings SCUM.
9
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:31:00 -
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Kora Ethereal wrote:Rahool wrote:Altrue wrote:If you need a reward on TQ to attend to mass tests, I'm sure everyone will be fine without you  2mil on sisi allows to try out different things, and that's enough for me and plenty of others ! Plus we have a fun fight with basically free ships, so yeah, that's cool ! Edit : On many other games, the only benefit of the test server is to see the next update before everyone else.. And people find that it's enough. Here we also have this shiny reward, you should be happy, but you always complain for more ! Gobble gobble gobble, no seriousy, gobble gobble gobble! 2mill SP is a nice bonus, however, it would be interesting to be able to try everything out, which is why I would like 200mill SP. Then there would be no incentive to attend other masstests, You're only thinking about here and now and being selfish. 200mil would also pretty much ruin test server as every one and their mother would be in dreads.
What about 10 million SP's? Think that might allow people a bit more scope to try new things out... |

Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
19
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:53:00 -
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Rahool wrote:Kora Ethereal wrote:Rahool wrote:Altrue wrote:If you need a reward on TQ to attend to mass tests, I'm sure everyone will be fine without you  2mil on sisi allows to try out different things, and that's enough for me and plenty of others ! Plus we have a fun fight with basically free ships, so yeah, that's cool ! Edit : On many other games, the only benefit of the test server is to see the next update before everyone else.. And people find that it's enough. Here we also have this shiny reward, you should be happy, but you always complain for more ! Gobble gobble gobble, no seriousy, gobble gobble gobble! 2mill SP is a nice bonus, however, it would be interesting to be able to try everything out, which is why I would like 200mill SP. Then there would be no incentive to attend other masstests, You're only thinking about here and now and being selfish. 200mil would also pretty much ruin test server as every one and their mother would be in dreads. What about 10 million SP's? Think that might allow people a bit more scope to try new things out...
If anything, double it to 4 mil at best. SP can let you test things, but the cap of 10mil currently only gets you so far to explore things you might wanna do in TQ. A cap of 20mil would sorta work out and not allow everyone to suddenly pilot what normally a really time consuming ship to get in.
This also implies they attend all tests consecutively 5 times :D
Do I personally want to see more SP, yes, in-between mirrors I stretch what I get thin and explore crap. I've modified my training on TQ a decent amount based on what I learn here. Would I want to learn more with more SP, of course. Is it a decent idea to give more sp per test, possibly, depends on CCP's stance on it and the positives and negatives.
More SP would allow people to reach a goal to do something on SiSi quicker, they might be inclined to stop testing once they get skills for certain ships. Some of us are greedy and attend as many tests as possible anyways ;D.
All I know, is 200mil SP would wreak havoc, and leave less reason to attend tests after your first test. |

Rahool
Exiled Kings SCUM.
9
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:45:00 -
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Kora Ethereal wrote:Rahool wrote:Kora Ethereal wrote:Rahool wrote:Altrue wrote:If you need a reward on TQ to attend to mass tests, I'm sure everyone will be fine without you  2mil on sisi allows to try out different things, and that's enough for me and plenty of others ! Plus we have a fun fight with basically free ships, so yeah, that's cool ! Edit : On many other games, the only benefit of the test server is to see the next update before everyone else.. And people find that it's enough. Here we also have this shiny reward, you should be happy, but you always complain for more ! Gobble gobble gobble, no seriousy, gobble gobble gobble! 2mill SP is a nice bonus, however, it would be interesting to be able to try everything out, which is why I would like 200mill SP. Then there would be no incentive to attend other masstests, You're only thinking about here and now and being selfish. 200mil would also pretty much ruin test server as every one and their mother would be in dreads. What about 10 million SP's? Think that might allow people a bit more scope to try new things out... If anything, double it to 4 mil at best. SP can let you test things, but the cap of 10mil currently only gets you so far to explore things you might wanna do in TQ. A cap of 20mil would sorta work out and not allow everyone to suddenly pilot what normally a really time consuming ship to get in. This also implies they attend all tests consecutively 5 times :D Do I personally want to see more SP, yes, in-between mirrors I stretch what I get thin and explore crap. I've modified my training on TQ a decent amount based on what I learn here. Would I want to learn more with more SP, of course. Is it a decent idea to give more sp per test, possibly, depends on CCP's stance on it and the positives and negatives. More SP would allow people to reach a goal to do something on SiSi quicker, they might be inclined to stop testing once they get skills for certain ships. Some of us are greedy and attend as many tests as possible anyways ;D. All I know, is 200mil SP would wreak havoc, and leave less reason to attend tests after your first test.
4 million would be decent, bit better than 2 anyway. There are things that 4 million SP would allow me to try out, i.e. missiles and blasters, as I've mainly trained Lazooors. |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
207
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:41:00 -
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Rahool wrote:
4 million would be decent, bit better than 2 anyway. There are things that 4 million SP would allow me to try out, i.e. missiles and blasters, as I've mainly trained Lazooors.
a better pov of the question should be the one fom CCP's devs
actually, they give a reward to those attending mass test.
if this reward brings enought testers, no need to change it, giving a better reward could draw to many testers, and like any test server, SISI have it's limits!
so the answer is simple, if ccp wants more ppl for mass test, they will improve the rewards, if they are happy with the current number, they'll keep it like it is.
sisi first goal is to be a test server for ccp to test things, in wich we are also allowed to play and test things almost all we want, wich is by itself, already a "gift"
the only thing they aske is that sometimes, some of us attend mass test.
i don't know many test servers in any other games that are up most of the time, with specific mechanics like all the items @100 isk......... |

Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
759
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:09:00 -
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Just to add my two pennies worth:
1) You assist in Mass Testing to help the community and the game you love
2) You get unlimited access to a full testing environment albeit without tactical placements so it can't be used for recon risk free
3) If you want compensation for not being on TQ then don't be on SiSi Mass Testing, simple.
People who do go on SiSi (and I do before every expansion) get the low down and niggles of new stuff\tweaks before they hit thus giving you the advantage of those that don't.
Being selfish doesn't pay and helping the community and CCP brings it's own rewards like feeling you've helped everyone in the world who plays EVE along with 2mil SP to use on SiSi.
I personally would like to see an increase in the SP as it can be some time between mirrors and it would help me get my character up to TQ level and test a bit but all in all I like the Mass Testing and the ability to jump on SiSi whenever I want. Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
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