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Kalixa Hihro
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Posted - 2006.02.02 11:31:00 -
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word of warning:
There is a corp that is ganking people in empire for t2 bpos. Your t2 bpo is not safe just because you are in empire.
I advise you to have a scout when moving bpos in empire. Look for a BS on the gate just sitting there. Instas won't work because they have a bombinix setup.
MO:
Interceptor locks you with passive targeter and scans your cargo.
They blow you up as you try to jump, or on the other side as you try to take off, the bs, of course, gets owned by concord, then their accomplice swoops in and grabs your can. The t2 bpo is worth a lot more than the battleship(s) they lose.
Why putting your bpo in a secure container in your hold won't work:
They use a cargo scanner which doesn't see the container, only what's inside 8). Test it yourself if you don't believe me.
We had to learn this the hard way. I am posting this so you don't.
If you move t2 bpos, do it in a tanked battleship or transport ship and use a scout, even in empire.
-Kal
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Helison
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Posted - 2006.02.02 11:59:00 -
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For best security use a scout, transport the BPO in a covert ops and use instas. The best way is to avoid being scanned.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.02.02 12:12:00 -
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Where does your scout help?
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2006.02.02 12:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Tachy
Where does your scout help?
Could grab the BPO from can faster than the gankers hauler?
Could attack the one who opens the can?
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.02 13:09:00 -
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why not just use a really hard tanked raven or apoc to transport the bpo?
Raven with hard shield tank + 5x 1600mm tungston should do the job pretty easy.
btw what bpo did you loose?
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Max Teranous
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Posted - 2006.02.02 13:23:00 -
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Any Battleship is suitable for moving T2 BPO's or other low volume/high worth items around in high sec. Slap on extenders, plates and passive hardeners (so you don't need to activate them). Also a damage control when they get fixed.
That'll easily keep you alive long enough for Concord to save your ass.
Max 
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Ocularis
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Posted - 2006.02.02 13:23:00 -
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cant you just put it into a secure can, they dont get scanned do they?
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.02.02 18:26:00 -
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shame really, I would have taken all the precautions before considering the move a a tech2 bpo. What did you use anyways? a rifter?
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Shadoc
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Posted - 2006.02.02 18:31:00 -
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Lol maybe an Ibis :)
I can't figure out why people use weak ships for taht type of stuff in empire.. Use something that takes time to take down and then concord will help.. then just laugh as you go around collecting what their ships drop
Originally by: Bedrock
shame really, I would have taken all the precautions before considering the move a a tech2 bpo. What did you use anyways? a rifter?
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Mr Funktastic
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Posted - 2006.02.02 18:44:00 -
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Maybe someone should create a bunch of 1-run T2 BPC's and bring them to these guys. One at a time of course. With a gank fleet ready to pop the guy who opens the can.
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General Meridus
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Posted - 2006.02.03 05:30:00 -
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I heard you say they can see through a container. However, what I don't understand is what good that would do them. Or are you saying the contents fall outside the can when the ship is blown?
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el commandante
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Posted - 2006.02.03 07:43:00 -
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you can collect the can, its not anchored when the ship pops. if its password protected you can repack at a station and the content drops out. cans doesnt help a bit.
that said, i think its good that you cant afk transport in a lonly indus.
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.02.03 12:09:00 -
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best bet is to leave the BPO where it is and simply copy BPCs from there and distribute that way.
2nd better alternative is covert ops ship. I think someone just forgot to think
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Gretchen Dawntreader
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Posted - 2006.02.03 12:52:00 -
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why not just say which corp instead of being all mysterious.
I've seen battleships hanging motionless at a gate. Belonging to people I know. Who had reached the end of their autopilot and had no reason to expect attack as they were in 0.9 so they were afk when they reached their destination.
Name the rogues.
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2006.02.03 17:07:00 -
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its in the topic title... mafia corp...
oh and by the way inties work fine for moving BPO's in empire if you are not AFK...
try a claw with all slots fitted with 24m/s nanofibers 1 small t2 cap battery 1 Gistii 1MN MWD and a t2 cloak in high
Such a claw is the fastest ship in eve and tops 6km/s depending on your skills implants etc... + it warps faster then a shuttle...no one can lock it and scan it quick enough if you use insta's and are not AFK.
The best Laught ever ...
Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this :) |
Chade Malloy
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:18:00 -
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The best way to move bpos without much hassle and safe from scans, is to make a courier mission for them restricted to yourself. The goods end up in a nice wrapped package, which noone can scan from outside.
Originally by: Oveur
Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.04 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Chade Malloy
The best way to move bpos without much hassle and safe from scans, is to make a courier mission for them restricted to yourself. The goods end up in a nice wrapped package, which noone can scan from outside.
 good thinking
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KingsGambit
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Posted - 2006.02.05 00:42:00 -
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The plastic wrap thing is a good tip. But regardless, I'd rather a small, hard to lock inty than a slow behemoth of a BS to move my high value items around. I rarely have to move such things, but when I do, it's not in a BS. Cov Ops is a good option too however. I'm of the "You can't kill what you can't catch" mindset
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CelticKnight
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Posted - 2006.02.05 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kalixa Hihro
word of warning:
There is a corp that is ganking people in empire for t2 bpos. Your t2 bpo is not safe just because you are in empire.
I advise you to have a scout when moving bpos in empire. Look for a BS on the gate just sitting there. Instas won't work because they have a bombinix setup.
MO:
Interceptor locks you with passive targeter and scans your cargo.
They blow you up as you try to jump, or on the other side as you try to take off, the bs, of course, gets owned by concord, then their accomplice swoops in and grabs your can. The t2 bpo is worth a lot more than the battleship(s) they lose.
Why putting your bpo in a secure container in your hold won't work:
They use a cargo scanner which doesn't see the container, only what's inside 8). Test it yourself if you don't believe me.
We had to learn this the hard way. I am posting this so you don't.
If you move t2 bpos, do it in a tanked battleship or transport ship and use a scout, even in empire.
-Kal
Put BPO in small secure can, they cannot SEE INSIDE THE CAN when they can.. all they see is the small secure can. if you do go pop. anchor the thing \o/
Or.. be a real ass move through there.. call the can BPO holder.. whack some bookmarks in it.. when they pop your ship to get the can.. let them have it and watch the smack about the fact they blew up a BS for a small secure and a bookmark... for laffs name the bookmark something really insulting (within the rules..)
Have fun!
Originally by: Stealthy
I am simply mortified Ginger Magician's alt is now advising folks in POS operations-is it the end of player piracy as we know it?
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Dessa DesPlains
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:37:00 -
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Even Better... put the bp and 500 bookmarks in the can. It will take 20 minutes or so to open it. Plenty of time for some revenge... |
Master Remo
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Posted - 2006.02.06 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: CelticKnight
Put BPO in small secure can, they cannot SEE INSIDE THE CAN when they can.. all they see is the small secure can. if you do go pop. anchor the thing \o/
Or.. be a real ass move through there.. call the can BPO holder.. whack some bookmarks in it.. when they pop your ship to get the can.. let them have it and watch the smack about the fact they blew up a BS for a small secure and a bookmark... for laffs name the bookmark something really insulting (within the rules..)
Have fun!
Didnt u read the post?? To put stuff in a can (secure can whatever) helps NOTHING. If u cargo scan a ship u dont see cans at all. U only see whats in the cans and whats in the cargo! Try it out. 
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Shai Faetal
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Posted - 2006.02.07 03:27:00 -
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isnt there a chance that the bpo might be destroyed ?
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franny
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Posted - 2006.02.07 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shai Faetal
isnt there a chance that the bpo might be destroyed ?
yep
but look at it this way... it goes pop, you as the suicider lose nothing(well minimal anyway on a cheap BS with smartbombs)
if it succeeds, you get a BPO worth a couple billion(give or take)
I guess the recon ships would be useful for moving T2 bpo's, cloaked warping cruiser!
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2006.02.07 09:05:00 -
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people should really play this game before trying to do armchair advise... BS + smartbombs at a gate to catch inties doesn't work for a long time now... try blowing a smartbomb near a gate...and see what happens... the game was changed a while back and smarties cannot be activated near a gate anymore... so all you paranoid armchair pilots you can breath a sight of relief... no one will smartbomb you at gate... it cannot be done !
The best Laught ever ...
Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this :) |
Macro Media
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Posted - 2006.02.07 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tas Devil
people should really play this game before trying to do armchair advise... BS + smartbombs at a gate to catch inties doesn't work for a long time now... try blowing a smartbomb near a gate...and see what happens... the game was changed a while back and smarties cannot be activated near a gate anymore... so all you paranoid armchair pilots you can breath a sight of relief... no one will smartbomb you at gate... it cannot be done !
Erm NO.
Buy 100mil Smartbombs with a 7.5k range. End of story.
Also if you really want to transport goods safely, simple use a BS or t2 industrial. Its not that hard.
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King Dave
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Posted - 2006.02.07 15:29:00 -
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but then u have ruined the whole idea of a cheap bs to get a bpo....
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franny
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Posted - 2006.02.07 15:35:00 -
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if they arn't using instas(which is suprisingly common)
smartbombs should fire
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Gretchen Dawntreader
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Posted - 2006.02.07 16:58:00 -
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oh, sorry, thought mafia was being used as a descriptive term rather than a name.
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2006.02.08 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Macro Media
Originally by: Tas Devil
people should really play this game before trying to do armchair advise... BS + smartbombs at a gate to catch inties doesn't work for a long time now... try blowing a smartbomb near a gate...and see what happens... the game was changed a while back and smarties cannot be activated near a gate anymore... so all you paranoid armchair pilots you can breath a sight of relief... no one will smartbomb you at gate... it cannot be done !
Erm NO.
Buy 100mil Smartbombs with a 7.5k range. End of story.
Also if you really want to transport goods safely, simple use a BS or t2 industrial. Its not that hard.
Yeah good idea... NOT
1st 7,5km smarties are more then 100M p.u. second if you fit 2-3 of those to be efficient at all doesn't that defy the point of a cheap BS ? lastly your smartbomb BS will not catch any inty pilot that is not flying AFK... a proper insta + autopilot on arrival will nt get killed by a smartbomb BS...
The best Laught ever ...
Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this :) |
SUPER J0SH
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Posted - 2006.02.08 19:40:00 -
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actually the safest way to move stuff in empire atm is a freighter, not only do they have alot o hp, but they do not drop cans when popped. So even if they scan and know you are carrying a fortune, unless you are a war target (another topic all together), there is nothing to be gained by shooting you.
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