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theRaptor
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Posted - 2006.02.09 10:10:00 -
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 Originally by: SUPER J0SH
actually the safest way to move stuff in empire atm is a freighter, not only do they have alot o hp, but they do not drop cans when popped. So even if they scan and know you are carrying a fortune, unless you are a war target (another topic all together), there is nothing to be gained by shooting you.
Also the forces needed to gank a freighter are significant. One BS wont cut it.
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Tarama
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Posted - 2006.02.20 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tarama on 20/02/2006 13:15:17
2 nanofibers 1 rep inty + mwd 2 if u dont have instas.
Put ur BPO in a courrier mission warp box.
That's it.
Or move it afk in a freighter or Tanked Occator.
It's an old trick that were used by ATUK French Wing last year ganking ppl in 1.0 after scanning them. Suicide BS's use smartbombs (concord instajam very often) so damage is limited.
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Heikki
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Posted - 2006.02.20 21:46:00 -
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I would advice on using either covert ops, or reasonably tanked ships (even a BS with nanofibers and shield tank would do it well).
Inties are not secure, although harder to cargo scan. You cannot fire smartbombs close to the gate, but you can sit at 15km, or 40km, front of the gate.
And with good timing, you will catch substantial percentage of ships instawarping past you.
Odd side effect is, that even though the ship blows up at your location, the can will end up pretty many kilometers away.
-Lasse
who did blast a few hundreds targets far away from the gate
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Tar om
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Posted - 2006.02.22 17:05:00 -
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Yep freighter ftw! If you have the patience that is :)
An 8 smarty apoc tried to gank our freighter once. He didn't get into the armour. hehe.
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Oresome
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Posted - 2006.02.22 18:03:00 -
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Curiosity question as I have a freighter myself... what would it take to gank a freighter in empire?... bearing in mind that concord will jump em.
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GigaIndy
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Posted - 2006.02.22 18:35:00 -
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I use t2 industrials, or covert ops to move anything of value.
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2006.02.22 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tar om
Yep freighter ftw! If you have the patience that is :)
well, for a BP worth upwards of 2 billion isk, imho its worth having patience :P
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XenTuis
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Posted - 2006.02.22 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: shakaZ XIV
Originally by: Tar om
Yep freighter ftw! If you have the patience that is :)
well, for a BP worth upwards of 2 billion isk, imho its worth having patience :P
Agreed. =]
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Dahin
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Posted - 2006.02.22 20:52:00 -
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if you try to move t2 bpo's while warred or in anything else than a tanked bs gets you what you deserved.
They were probably looking for fat indies with zyd/mega/morph and you happened to pass by.
I bet you were in a hauler.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2006.02.23 01:13:00 -
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I actually have had discussions of doing stuff like this.
A real, Black Op thing, only Alts, new corp or something.
The ultimate Mercenary deal. Sort of.
Drop 20 BS on a freighter (or what ever it would take) to kill it.
The price would be insaine of course but some selective ppl
would have the money and the grudge to afford it.
Well...good luck. Both sides.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.23 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tas Devil
people should really play this game before trying to do armchair advise... BS + smartbombs at a gate to catch inties doesn't work for a long time now... try blowing a smartbomb near a gate...and see what happens... the game was changed a while back and smarties cannot be activated near a gate anymore... so all you paranoid armchair pilots you can breath a sight of relief... no one will smartbomb you at gate... it cannot be done !
Play much ?
If you know where your targets going and you camp in a 2 gate system 5050m off the gate on the insta line I can pretty much guarentee save
Having a heart attack
Your dog pulling the stoopid cable out of the wall
Or you going to sleep
That your intercepter will die !!
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2006.02.23 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Originally by: Tas Devil
people should really play this game before trying to do armchair advise... BS + smartbombs at a gate to catch inties doesn't work for a long time now... try blowing a smartbomb near a gate...and see what happens... the game was changed a while back and smarties cannot be activated near a gate anymore... so all you paranoid armchair pilots you can breath a sight of relief... no one will smartbomb you at gate... it cannot be done !
Play much ?
If you know where your targets going and you camp in a 2 gate system 5050m off the gate on the insta line I can pretty much guarentee save
Having a heart attack
Your dog pulling the stoopid cable out of the wall
Or you going to sleep
That your intercepter will die !!
Alliaanna
qft all it takes is a little timing and 5k smarties still work fine, you just cant be right on the gate.
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Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2006.02.23 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Max Teranous
Any Battleship is suitable for moving T2 BPO's or other low volume/high worth items around in high sec. Slap on extenders, plates and passive hardeners (so you don't need to activate them). Also a damage control when they get fixed.
That'll easily keep you alive long enough for Concord to save your ass.
Totally agree. Why skulk around in a puny ship that WILL blow up if smartbombed when you can sit in a Battleboat and laugh at them while they're dying for trying... That even rhymed!
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Markie
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Posted - 2006.02.23 08:58:00 -
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use a WCS nano covert ops and do it straight after DT.
No need to give griefers free BPO's
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Crass Spektakel
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Posted - 2006.02.23 09:38:00 -
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I recently got a double TL2-BPO, some boring ammo or something like that. Bored as I am I took an interceptor, tanked it to hell and travelled the route between Madimilire and Oursulaert for one day, up and down, up and down, in different chars and different fittings, always with the bpo inside.
I made nine Battleships die and 20 smaller ships without firing one shot. Total damage if all has been insured: at least 300mio.
I developed a special handling towards secure passing gates, no details for you though. Nothing stops a tanked speed interceptor. Most likely I'll stop doing this soon as people along the route have gotten the message and don't attack people with "my" BPO in the cargo any longer. I orbited one of them for half an hour who personally lost one BS and one cruiser to me the day before.
Crass Spektakel
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but my tombstone will carry the hiscore
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Jay Phor
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Posted - 2006.02.23 10:57:00 -
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lol, your so full of stabbs
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fubar27
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Posted - 2006.02.23 14:06:00 -
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Right first of all if its just blue prints you are hauling forget about using secure cans and definately forget about using a BS. All you need is bookmarks and a covert ops ship.
1,Select your bookmark to warp to gate, 2,turn on your cloak 3,Jump through gate 4, Select your bookmark to warp to gate, 5,turn on your cloak.
There is no ship in the game that can lock you down in the time it takes you to click F2 or manually click the cloak after you have selected to warp to your bookmark.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2006.02.23 22:14:00 -
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Use a shuttle
No one suspects the shuttle... 
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Luke Skyrider
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Posted - 2006.02.23 22:43:00 -
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After the new patch just use a freighter with cans in high sec. systems.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2006.02.23 22:46:00 -
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So can someone pls tell us what T2 BPO was lost/stolen so we can all laugh and go "omg prawned" ? 
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Aqua II
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Posted - 2006.02.23 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Aqua II on 23/02/2006 23:24:55
Originally by: Kalixa Hihro
We had to learn this the hard way. I am posting this so you don't.
If you move t2 bpos, do it in a tanked battleship or transport ship and use a scout, even in empire.
-Kal
Rule 1 of Eve: there is no such thing as 'safe space'.
But really, the scout is not even necessary, just fly in a ship that can't be ganked before Concord pwns your opponent. That would be basically anything except for haulers and frigates. To play it safe, take a BS with some hardeners and you should be fine at all times (like you say, indeed). And don't take the shortcut through 0.4....
This should be obvious, I mean, what do you expect? I know someone who was scanning haulers and other ships in his ceptor a few days ago, within 15 mins he noticed at least 4 haulers containing over 300M worth of stuff if you would kill them (not even talking t2 BPO's), which is about as trivial to do as you just described. How hard is it to slap a few smartbombs on a BS? The risk is about as low as it can get and the rewards are great. Haulers can even be ganked by suicide frigates, reducing the risk to absolutely zero. I mean, what do you expect when people are that stupid!? Someone is bound to take advantage of it sooner or later.
Also, research agents are usually clustered around a few systems so it's kinda obvious where you'd have to look for t2 BPO's 
I always assumed all this is obvious, but apparently the warning is needed 
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Aqua II
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Posted - 2006.02.23 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Oresome
Curiosity question as I have a freighter myself... what would it take to gank a freighter in empire?... bearing in mind that concord will jump em.
Can't be done, unless you have an empire war against you obviously.
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Shania Twain
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Posted - 2006.02.24 13:41:00 -
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Well,
use a freighter. Even if someone would be able to kill a freighter in empire >= 0.5 nobody would do it. Freighters never drop any loot!
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