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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Pirate Nation.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 13:23:00 -
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Mortis Aguila wrote:mynnna wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:In hindsight, this was probably the wrong place to post in an effort to instigate an uproar at the behavior of certain Incursion communities. Apologies for that. In response to the commentor who thinks denying access to the Incursions gameplay to the entire Eve community because they got their panties in a twist about being contested by a fleet from another community in a site ... I'm glad you didn't have access to nuclear weapons when somebody picked on you in your childhood. Yes, a forum where people recognize and point out that you're suffering consequences for your own actions was probably the wrong place to expect sympathy from. (sigh) Is it a requirement for you to be an insufferable f***ing d***head whenever you respond to people with whom you disagree?
I have criticised them for it, but in truth, I can't really fault them in this thread, because mynna's first and second post was not really that unpleasent. Though it could be that I actually agree with them, so the biting wit has less of an impact. Seriously, I think the frustration you have is that you can see no way to get back at the people doing this, as they are spread out in diffeent corps and NPC's corps you cannot war dec them, nor can you suicide gank them because that takes a certain amount of organising of like minded people and they don't really exist in your community, but you could impact some of them and chose not to, why not at least target some of what you feel are their leaders, speak to fellow pilots upset with it and get something going..
Their objective could be to reduce the number of people running Incursions and it is effective, or it could be that certain people want Incursion runners in bling fitted ships warping gate to gate, so yes it is PvP and if you wantg to gather that ISK you will have to harden up and resist, rather than call for a change in the mechanics.
If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space,-áand those people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local,-álight a cyno and try jumping to it.-á-á There is a structural issue with Eve, based on accounts with no link, vast reserves of ISK-áand plex, which makes it too easy to metagame the destruction of small alliances. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
2772
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:29:00 -
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Potential solution:
Add Sansha Sites to go kill concord NPC's or Faction NPC's.
Run site, get sansha LP, increase blue bar.
If blue bar is increased enough, have mom despawn....
*edit* There really ought to be some drawbacks or conflict available here:
You only collect LP if the Sansha is NOT defeated,
You lose standings with the Faction NPC's for helping out Sanshas....
Maybe running these sites while the mom is being attacked spawns new bomber waves at the mom site (for those who don't know, a bomber wave deals ~50k alpha and is responsible for most ship deaths in a mom site). |
Marexlovox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.10.31 07:23:00 -
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I think Incursion should be strictly low/null, and just rebuff missions.  |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
2775
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Posted - 2013.10.31 21:10:00 -
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Marexlovox wrote:I think Incursion should be strictly low/null, and just rebuff missions.
To be honest, I disagree with this sentiment.
I believe Highsec incursions are overwhelmingly positive for EvE in general. They are difficult enough to require teamwork, and operate in a manner where even more risk-adverse members of EvE community will participate. In other words, they are one of the few highsec activities that actually brings players together. This is important for forming contacts, friendships, and more. Believe it or not, forming these bonds, joining into a community, is one of the largest factors that govern player retention. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
439
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Posted - 2013.11.02 13:05:00 -
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I'm not so sure about that, from what I see it seems to have spawned a large group of massively wealthy, incredibly overentitled fuckheads who whine shrilly and unendingly whenever anyone else 'dares' to touch what they think is theirs by right. Its like everything bad about highsec has been distilled into one group.
Yes people will shoot incursion motherships, in case you forgot thats what theyre ******* there for. What they are not there for is for you to sit on like Elvis on his throne farming more piles of isk to horde or spend on pointless bling. *Youve already been told what works against the tactics you described and the things you claim are stopping you are only stopping you because you cant be bothered to make the effort to address them.
*by you i mean the OP and his ilk*
(Insert clip of willy wonkas YOU GET NOTHING scene here)
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
9
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Posted - 2013.11.03 23:49:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:I'm not so sure about that, from what I see it seems to have spawned a large group of massively wealthy, incredibly overentitled fuckheads who whine shrilly and unendingly whenever anyone else 'dares' to touch what they think is theirs by right. Its like everything bad about highsec has been distilled into one group.
Yes people will shoot incursion motherships, in case you forgot thats what theyre ******* there for. What they are not there for is for you to sit on like Elvis on his throne farming more piles of isk to horde or spend on pointless bling. *Youve already been told what works against the tactics you described and the things you claim are stopping you are only stopping you because you cant be bothered to make the effort to address them.
*by you i mean the OP and his ilk*
(Insert clip of willy wonkas YOU GET NOTHING scene here)
Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
908
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Posted - 2013.11.04 15:47:00 -
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Mortis Aguila wrote:
Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug.
I'd say the OP is the one in need of the Hug.... Oh wait...
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
9
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Posted - 2013.11.05 02:52:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:
Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug.
I'd say the OP is the one in need of the Hug.... Oh wait...
Way to jump on the "blame the victim" bandwagon. Well played. |
AnJuan Jackson
Disingenuous Assertions
54
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Posted - 2013.11.05 03:00:00 -
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EVE Online is about competition.
They make ISK, they deny you easy ISK.
Which also stops inflation.
Works as intended. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
908
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Posted - 2013.11.05 08:59:00 -
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Mortis Aguila wrote:Jint Hikaru wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:
Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug.
I'd say the OP is the one in need of the Hug.... Oh wait... Way to jump on the "blame the victim" bandwagon. Well played.
Wait, someone else killed the mothership in an incursion, exactly what you are supposed to do with an incursion (its like the end of level boss), and now you are 'the victim'????
Get over yourself. |
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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
353
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Posted - 2013.11.05 11:17:00 -
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Mortis Aguila wrote:Jint Hikaru wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:
Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug.
I'd say the OP is the one in need of the Hug.... Oh wait... Way to jump on the "blame the victim" bandwagon. Well played.
You are only a victim because you insist on being one, that is obvious from your attitude throughout this thread.
Have you actually done anything to modify your situation beside wringing your hands and crying for outside intervention? |
Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
9
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:04:00 -
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Samillian wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:Jint Hikaru wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:
Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug.
I'd say the OP is the one in need of the Hug.... Oh wait... Way to jump on the "blame the victim" bandwagon. Well played. You are only a victim because you insist on being one, that is obvious from your attitude throughout this thread. Have you actually done anything to modify your situation beside wringing your hands and crying for outside intervention?
Yes, yes I have. But the entertainment value of stringing along you holier-than-thous for your anti-carebear self-righteous indignation is too priceless to just shut up and let it end. Do continue. :) |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1604
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:18:00 -
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Y'all been puppet-mastered. |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
353
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:11:00 -
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Ah so now we go from needy self entitlement to "I'm trolling you really......honest".
I wonder if that would still be the case if you had found a sympathetic ear.
Ah well 0/10 for a sad attempt to spin your way out of the hole you dug. |
Mortis Aguila
PushmePullyou Industrial Services
9
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:38:00 -
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Samillian wrote:Ah so now we go from needy self entitlement to "I'm trolling you really......honest".
I wonder if that would still be the case if you had found a sympathetic ear.
Ah well 0/10 for a sad attempt to spin your way out of the hole you dug.
You are correct. If I had received a sympathetic ear, I would have had no expectation to snicker at the overabundance of mean-spirited twats in this game who, rather than politely tell a carebear that his complaint is invalid, would rather take advantage of the anonymity of the internet to behave like insufferably juvenile douchebags. Again, thanks for the entertaining display of the dark side of human nature. I'm happy to return the favor by "whining" about it. Truly, a symbiotic relationship. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
2559
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Posted - 2013.11.06 07:37:00 -
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+1 |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
441
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Posted - 2013.11.10 08:57:00 -
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Mortis Aguila wrote:Samillian wrote:Ah so now we go from needy self entitlement to "I'm trolling you really......honest".
I wonder if that would still be the case if you had found a sympathetic ear.
Ah well 0/10 for a sad attempt to spin your way out of the hole you dug. You are correct. If I had received a sympathetic ear, I would have had no expectation to snicker at the overabundance of mean-spirited twats in this game who, rather than politely tell a carebear that his complaint is invalid, instead exploit the anonymity of the internet to behave like insufferably juvenile douchebags. Again, thanks for the entertaining display of the dark side of human nature. I'm happy to return the favor by "whining" about it. Truly, a symbiotic relationship.
The problem with that is that we tried being nice, all it got us was more bitching and willful ignorance. Why should we make the effort when the people we're trying to advise seem to celebrate being stupid and doing things wrong. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
9431
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:22:00 -
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Mortis Aguila wrote:Way to jump on the "blame the victim" bandwagon. Well played.
Maybe you could lose the victim complex and actually put the insane amounts of ISK you gain from risk-free farming to use and figure out a way to make it more difficult for these competing groups who work within the limits of EVE's game mechanics to kill the mothership?
Your ridiculous proposal means that nullsec groups that run incursions with the intent of closing them immediately after the mothership spawns - because nullsec incursions actually cripple a constellation - would not have the means to do so, and would be burdened with an incursion spawning again because of another change made to protect a group of players that don't even pay CCP for their subscriptions directly.
There are legitimate reasons to end an incursion early. You are not entitled to farm a single incursion for over a week because you consider your gameplay more important than that of others.
Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Beaver Retriever
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
159
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:22:00 -
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Mortis Aguila wrote:Jint Hikaru wrote:Mortis Aguila wrote:
Wow. Somebody is in desperate need of a hug.
I'd say the OP is the one in need of the Hug.... Oh wait... Way to jump on the "blame the victim" bandwagon. Well played.
You are not, in any way, shape, or form, a victim.
If you think that someone else running incursions properly and depriving you of freely farming them of ISK instead of completing them makes you a victim, you really should go play World of Warcraft instead. I hear the instances there bar other people from interfering with your gameplay. |
Xolve
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2123
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Posted - 2013.11.16 14:24:00 -
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Mortis Aguila wrote:I have no facts, just hearsay to back this up, but it appears certain shield communities are intentionally running back-to-back HQ sites, not merely to reap the ISK/LP rewards for those sites, but primarily to run the red out of the bar and causing the mom to spawn, then immediately kill it. Again, not primarily to reap the ISK/LP rewards, but to deny access to that incursion by all players as soon as possible. Again, hearsay tells me that the reason they are doing this is in response to being butthurt over armor fleets occasionally contesting a site, and sometimes winning those contests.
It sounds to me, like those individuals are doing gods work.
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