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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
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Posted - 2011.11.07 23:14:00 -
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Pinky Denmark wrote:In space with 0 resistance I believe the place of thrusters doesn't matter...
Space does have resistance. Not a lot...but more than 0. Any kind of gravity at all causes resistance in space. Space also has matter in the form of all sorts of **** flying around...specs of dust and whatever that cause resistance. And yes there is gravity in space. If you are within any of the solar systems in EvE you would as an example be effected by the gravity of a star, planet or even moon even if it is really far away. Farther away you get the less the gravity is of course. Scientists have been able to measure the minute gravitational pull of objects in space millions and millions of miles away.
Well...I digress... Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Jojo Jackson
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Posted - 2011.11.08 01:54:00 -
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But WHY again this NO-bonus of 10% cap usage for Laser??
Guys, this is for real NO BONUS!! It's a pre-gimp as many Armar ships suffer 1 bonus as this is nothink but "we don't want to give this ship better cap or cap-regen".
Fix it before you release this patch! 50% more BASE cap or 50% better BASE cap recharg. Add REAL bonus like tracking/range/rof/armor/.. anythink but make it a REAL bonus like the other 3 races get!
And for the other Laser boats which a pre-gimped with this ANTI-bonus ... lower the damn cap usage of lasers and give this ships a REAL bonus!
PS: It's ******* stupid, that for example Legion Drone offensive does MORE damage with Autocannons then with Lasers! Same for Maller and Punisher.
It just makes clear, how FAIL this ANTI-bonus is! :( |
Keen Fallsword
Billionaires Club C0VEN
5
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Posted - 2011.11.08 03:12:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:But WHY again this NO-bonus of 10% cap usage for Laser??
50% more BASE cap or 50% better BASE cap recharg. Add REAL bonus like tracking/range/rof/armor/.. anythink but make it a REAL bonus like the other 3 races get!
And for the other Laser boats which a pre-gimped with this ANTI-bonus ... lower the damn cap usage of lasers and give this ships a REAL bonus!
Well not 3 races :) dont ask about gallente talos hehe :)
We can Say that this patch got only one good ship and it is tornado of coz.... There is something really strange that mini are the best in almost everything well not in caps and supers but we will see coz they may be tweeked. Anyway add mini skills to yours skills set :( coz ccp dont change minmatar as we know devs fave race. I may only Say that this is happening when you allow your workers to play in mmo haha
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Siabhra
Interstellar Archaeology
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Posted - 2011.11.08 04:10:00 -
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Me likey!!
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Trash Ice
Black Sharks Division Reckless Chavs
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Posted - 2011.11.09 10:42:00 -
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For the Love of God! Make more than 3 med slots |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.10 18:43:00 -
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Trash Ice wrote:I'm shitting bricks
Does it hurts?
You can train for Talos and Gallente if you really want to fly bad stuff.
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Trash Ice
Black Sharks Division Reckless Chavs
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Posted - 2011.11.11 04:14:00 -
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SUDDENLY, i want to fly amarrian bad staf
this thing would be really bad with some useful bonus like tracking or optimal and 4 meds
btw does anybody noticed THIS: Tornado: rof + falloff bonus Talos: dmg + tracking bonus Naga: topedo velocity OR optimal bonus (coz there is no sense in fitting both torps and hybrids) Oracle: dmg + CAPACITOR USE
sooooo.... WHY oracle and naga have only one useful bonus?
not to speak of "50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets" so oracle already has capacitor bonus - why should i be happy about second one?
CCP, please, give some bad sh*t to amarr |
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
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Posted - 2011.11.14 00:36:00 -
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Trash Ice wrote:SUDDENLY, i want to fly amarrian bad staf
this thing would be really bad with some useful bonus like tracking or optimal and 4 meds
btw does anybody noticed THIS: Tornado: rof + falloff bonus Talos: dmg + tracking bonus Naga: topedo velocity OR optimal bonus (coz there is no sense in fitting both torps and hybrids) Oracle: dmg + CAPACITOR USE
sooooo.... WHY oracle and naga have only one useful bonus?
not to speak of "50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets" so oracle already has capacitor bonus - why should i be happy about second one?
CCP, please, give some bad sh*t to amarr
1.) Tornado is still great. 2.) Talos is still going to only be good for what blaster boats do already just fine. 3.) Naga is going to be in the above Talos as good for what blaster boats do already just fine and though some torps on for pos/cap bashing. 4.) Oracle is probly the worst off as it is not going to have the staying power of other Large Energy weapon ships and no one was asking for or even expeting a faster Large Energy weapon ship. Is added speed going to hose pulse tracking on a smaller faster ship that gets no added tracking bonus?
And all of the T3 BC will suffer in major fleet fights against real BS's. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:01:00 -
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Well actually I'm happy when I have Oracles in my SISI fleets, they have this important stuff that is range versatility and application. Strong enough tanks to not make logis cry good speed, overall I'd say a good ship.
So don't be bored about your thrusters placement, it's less important than some other BC's being completely and utterly useless once again for fleet engagements where usual range is between 60 to 80km
Haven't try small gang engagement type, so I can't say who good/bad this Oracle is at this game but I'm willing to think it does he's game very well. |
m0cking bird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:33:00 -
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ORACLE is possibly the best of all tier battle-cruiser in fleets. I'm pretty freaking sure that these things can signature tank, with a large tank to begin with. Add a Damnation, Loki and they replace Zealot for the most part. In terms of price to performance and by the way. The best non-t2 cruiser for armour-HAC fleets is the Omen navy issue. This ship is alot better than that.
Also, it seems to be able to Nano pretty well. Think it's a good thing it has only one mid slot because it would be to overpowered. Something I do not believe the Tornado is YET! |
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m0cking bird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.15 02:58:00 -
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m0cking bird wrote:First of all. I'm of the Opinion that the ORACLE is the better alpha and damage per second platform compared to the Tornado. At-least when engagement range scale. Has twice the tracking of artillery, damage application and projection. While, I like the Naga and Talos for sniping. They're not in the same class as the ORACLE and maybe the Tornado. All are very good snipers. I'm not sure why you would use heavy assault cruisers with these around, but whatever.
You will at-least see fleets of both.
6,000 per volley, 900 damage per second. 7 second duration. That is about 2 1/3 shots between artillery (Tornado) volleys.
[Oracle, Gods Light] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
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Zhephell
Capts Deranged Cavaliers Strategic Defense Initiative Organization
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Posted - 2011.11.15 13:06:00 -
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Hi, I see that new t3 battle cruisers are really easy to fit. The only one that has some difficulty to fit is the Naga, but compared to other ships specially battle ships those ships have a lot of power ( 95% reduction at bs guns has as result guns that need less power that cruiser guns, and t3 bc power is similar as t2 battle cruisers) Tornado and oracle are really easy to fit, as easy that I can see this in some forums:
((( [Oracle, armour] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Heat Sink II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
41km optimal, 450dps with scorch, 650dps with conflag, 70k EHP.
[Tornado, loool] Reactor Control Unit II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Stasis Webifier II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I
900dps with Hail, 800 with RF EMP, 600 with barrage and 75km fall off.... @ 4.3km/s - Yes, it's 29 seconds of align time but you accelerate to 1.5kms faster than you do if you only had a 10mn MWD so v0v. )))
An Oracle with 70k EHP !! That is more that many t2 bc that are supposed to have more ehp, and this oracle has mwd. Harbis and prophecy = trash compared with this oracle I have seen at you tube a video at the sisi server which had an oracle with 8 mega beam lasers, with active tank, afterburner, and cap booster and with any module to increase power , video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq-DrWnP--8
There is any amarr bs that can use 8 mega beams with any power control system , reactor control units or any Ancillary Current Router. And many times they need 2
And the tornado can use a BS MWD and have all his guns !!! wtf is this? I know that now it has 5% of falloff bonus and no more 10% so it isn t as difficult to kill, but T3 battle cruisers are really fast and very easy to fit, some ships as ACs tempest or ACs Maelstrom are worst that some tornados (why? Very simple, is your ship can be hunted because it is faster that the other ships, it has more chances to survive that a Maelstrom, and ll be cheaper.)
I hope that you have already noticed those things at sisi server |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:23:00 -
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Zhephell wrote:Hi, I see that new t3 battle cruisers are really easy to fit.
Try to fit 425mm RG II on Talos and say that again
Was only able to fit 4 of them with 0 mods other than guns...bug, not bug...? - probably not
Well soon enough I'll be training Amarr too so I'll not be restricted to Tornado or Tornado. Well some Talos for miners gank or high sec indy gank (yummy)
Has Proxy I'm inclined to think this Oracle will very fast be a feared sight.
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