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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:39:00 -
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This laser love boat is on its way to TQ and is the third of the player created vessels we're introducing as part of the the winter expansion.
I don't know about you, but personally...I can't wait to DISCO! CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Thaylon Sen
The Istari Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:39:00 -
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1st!
Awesome ship, nice choice! |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone.
137
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:39:00 -
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I can't wait to POS bash with it XD
DAMN!
same seconds too! The Drake is a Lie |
Smoking Blunts
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
130
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:39:00 -
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dam it CCP-áare full of words and no action. We will watch what they are doing, for now
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Sin Meng
Creative Assembly
14
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:40:00 -
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Most threatening banana to ever take to the dark skies. Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either. |
inexistin
Rubbish and Garbage Removal Cascade Imminent
7
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:40:00 -
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The comments button links to the blog post itself. Otherwise, nice post, but why no textured front view? |
Daren Knol
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:42:00 -
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Well now. I do believe that is one sexy ship and that I endorce/approve of this ship.
Keep of the good work CCP!
P.S. CCP Gaurd,
You are a seer? O_O |
Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
86
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:43:00 -
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i only see 4 turrets hardpoints, strange.
also, please give us more textured views of the ship !
the top would be a quick video where we see every new ship spinning for 30sec, so we can see them on every angles
ps : i loled at the cosplay :P |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
152
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:44:00 -
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.... |
mkint
238
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:45:00 -
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Quote:allowing it to deal frightening amounts of damage at medium to long ranges. Oh, and don't forget with short range pulse lasers you'll be able to hit anything from point blank to obscenely far away. You know, making every other one of these boats obsolete before they even launch. |
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Minsc
Alpha Empire
47
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:45:00 -
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so glad I can fly every subcap ship in the game already, gonna be hard to decide which one to fly though. |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
625
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:45:00 -
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Daren Knol wrote:Well now. I do believe that is one sexy ship and that I endorce/approve of this ship.
Keep of the good work CCP!
P.S. CCP Gaurd,
You are a seer? O_O
I don't want to brag but I might be as good as anyone claiming to be one. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Metis Laxon
Zero Point Group
8
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:46:00 -
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Pure awesome :) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1128
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:46:00 -
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That's a lot of enginesGǪ GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:46:00 -
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GLORY TO AMARR!
AMARR VICTOR! |
Gealbhan
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
54
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:46:00 -
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Saving the best for last? Caldari ftw!
Nice BC btw. |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
300
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:48:00 -
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Sin Meng wrote:Most threatening banana to ever take to the dark skies. Sooo.. Ummm....
You get to tell the Purifier the bad news.
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Sin Meng
Creative Assembly
14
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:49:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Sin Meng wrote:Most threatening banana to ever take to the dark skies. Sooo.. Ummm.... You get to tell the Purifier the bad news.
Yeah... Poor thing, getting dethroned and all. Feels bad, man. Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
152
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:50:00 -
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Gealbhan wrote:Saving the best for last? Caldari ftw!
Nice BC btw.
Yea, right. |
DaDutchDude
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:50:00 -
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It's
v e r t i c a l
Therefor, it wins! |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1128
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:51:00 -
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DaDutchDude wrote:It's
v e r t i c a l
Therefor, it wins! It also means that only the Caldari are now lacking a vertical ship. Blatant bias on CCP's part!
Buff Caldari! GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Jareck Hunter
Rubicon Legion Initiative Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:53:00 -
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Whatever the stats will be, i will buy one just for stationspinning. |
Wacktopia
Sicarius. Legion of The Damned.
25
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:54:00 -
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The Intergalactic Agency for Political Correctness would like to talk to you about that rag on your head. |
Max Kolonko
Worm Nation Ash Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:54:00 -
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Even the new caldari ship will not be Vertical. But than again - caldari don't need Vartical ships to PWN |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
131
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:56:00 -
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Very nice CCP thanks for the very open and direct communications.
Any chance that when I miss with this ship that I'll graphically look like I miss? Imagine playing Donkey Kong where every barrel looks like it hits you. Would you rather I fix the barrels or Kong's shadow?
Welcome to Eve Online where lasers are dumber than barrels! |
Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:56:00 -
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I have nothing to say about the ship, but you really need to get out of the studio more if you're going to start wearing towels on your head like that. Stop hitting the rotten shark at Happy Hour. |
Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
35
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:57:00 -
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SOOOOO SEXY |
Crayven Erata
5ER3NITY INC War and Pestilence
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:57:00 -
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I bloody love it. |
Myxx
Atropos Group
121
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:58:00 -
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I like the towel on your head.
also as I said in the video blog thread: OMGSEXY |
Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:It also means that only the Caldari are now lacking a vertical ship. Blatant bias on CCP's part! Buff Caldari! I believe the Heron/Buzzard would like to have a word with you...
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
215
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:58:00 -
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gahh pos bashing in wh's are going to change a lot. |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
301
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:01:00 -
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Tippia wrote:It also means that only the Caldari are now lacking a vertical ship. Blatant bias on CCP's part! Buff Caldari! Merlin Heron Griffin
They exist.
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Phantomania
Alien Ship Builders Caedite Eos
1
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:02:00 -
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All the New BCs are nice, but TBH.......
The Naga has BattleCruiser & War written all over it!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1128
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:05:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Merlin Heron Griffin Nuh-uh!
Those obviously don't count! Stop using facts! Also, they're frigates, not BCs and above, so there!
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Phantomania
Alien Ship Builders Caedite Eos
1
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:09:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Merlin Heron Griffin Nuh-uh! Those obviously don't count! Stop using facts! Also, they're frigates, not BCs and above, so there! Blatant bias on CCP's part, I tells ya'!
Thats why Caldari are the best ships, as they say- "The Taller You Are, The Harder You Fall !!!" |
Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:11:00 -
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I like the hull. That said I liked the old concept of a nimble laser kitting BC a lot more than making it just a faster geddon without drones. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1129
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:11:00 -
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Phantomania wrote:Thats why Caldari are the best ships, as they say- "The Taller You Are, The Harder You Fall !!!" I can see it now:
Bands of roving Caldari saboteurs going on intensive Myrmidon-tipping sprees across the Gallente ship yards.
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
301
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote: I can see it now: Bands of roving Caldari saboteurs going on intensive Myrmidon-tipping sprees across the Gallente ship yards. If Concord had learned how to play Naglfar Dominoes there Yulai Station would be in much better shape.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
153
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:17:00 -
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Jareck Hunter wrote:Whatever the stats will be, i will buy one just for stationspinning.
I don't spinn but ill get it for sure. |
Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
246
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:17:00 -
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You no longer have any excuses for not training amarr. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
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OblivionDawn
The Warsaw Pact Lonely Maple Conglomeration
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:17:00 -
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Meh.
At least the stats should be nice. |
Cynter DeVries
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:18:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Phantomania wrote:Thats why Caldari are the best ships, as they say- "The Taller You Are, The Harder You Fall !!!" I can see it now: Bands of roving Caldari saboteurs going on intensive Myrmidon-tipping sprees across the Gallente ship yards.
I remember back in my first year at SAK writing a virus to infect the gyrostabilizers of Myrmidons so they'd fly around on their sides. Was great fun.
That said, the Naga is vertical, it's Caldari vertical. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
732
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:19:00 -
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Where's Neo when you need him?
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Samuel FB
Industrial Renaissance MinTek Conglomerate
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:20:00 -
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wanna see the new caldari battlecruiser in rough form .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J42F4WkeFQ4 27seconds in ... small glimps but very sexual
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Crazy KSK
Tsunami Cartel Dark Solar Empire
7
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:23:00 -
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I'm not a amarr pilot but its sexeh for sure =)
PS: please don't make the mistake and give it 2 passive bonuses ( tracking and optimal) give it one damage bonus with the stats from the leak the harbinger does almost more dps than it with mega pulses =(
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Knug LiDi
N00bFleeT Numquam Ambulare Solus
4
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:25:00 -
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Apollo Gabriel wrote:Very nice CCP thanks for the very open and direct communications.
Any chance that when I miss with this ship that I'll graphically look like I miss?
Apollo:
How many threads are you going to try to push your agenda in ?
Give up on it already. You don't miss, you just don't do any damage :)
If only we could fall into a woman's arms
without falling into her hands |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
162
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:28:00 -
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I entirely approve of Apollo trying to push his agenda by any means neccessary, you just sound butthurt for some reason. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Animated Corporate Logos |
pussnheels
Vintage heavy industries
147
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:28:00 -
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AMARR VICTOR
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Erim Solfara
inFluX.
3
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:29:00 -
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Very nice, glad to see the blog finally! One thing though, please don't put all those millions of thrusters on just the top half at the back! It makes my physicist brain weep when I see ships like the tormentor that should just spin around in circles if they used their thrusters. The big ones in the middle look great on the original render image, all those extra ones are just gonna look messy, particularly when engine trails come back in! |
Vincent Gaines
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
33
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:34:00 -
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I'll contract those mines to you when I get home |
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Lina Miaoke
Celestial Mayhem
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:34:00 -
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So much win! |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
97
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:36:00 -
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o great now i have to train amarr.
THANKS CCP CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
187
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:38:00 -
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Pew pew laz0rz this is a signature |
xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
64
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:39:00 -
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Erim Solfara wrote:Very nice, glad to see the blog finally! One thing though, please don't put all those millions of thrusters on just the top half at the back! It makes my physicist brain weep when I see ships like the tormentor that should just spin around in circles if they used their thrusters. The big ones in the middle look great on the original render image, all those extra ones are just gonna look messy, particularly when engine trails come back in!
This Nerfing supers is not going to help the N+1/Blob problem. It will just mean that superpilots will be even more likely to want to blob. Think more creatively. Support the idea of a subcap "assault bomber." |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:49:00 -
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Woooch pownmobile incoming
Nice ship you guys get there, congratz. |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
131
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:52:00 -
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Love the photo |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
187
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:53:00 -
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The more I look at that ship, the more I'm proud to be Amarr. Might just be one of few sexy ships we'll have. Give it to me already! And give it lots and lots of damage, there's plenty of Drakes to melt, fast fast! this is a signature |
Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation
86
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:54:00 -
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Ruh oh....I'm being forced to pick either the Tornado or the Oracle....errrrr...
HELL I'LL TAKE BOTH!!!!
SEXAY!
(I'll need to get a stronger pair of shades for the lazor show on that baby) |
Kaaletram Lothyrawir
Ignus Astrum The Veyr Collective
3
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Posted - 2011.11.02 18:57:00 -
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Nice I am glad that this one made it into the game I have always liked this design. |
Ariane VoxDei
6
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Posted - 2011.11.02 19:29:00 -
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Not approved.
It has a sidebridge thing. Amarr ships DONT WORK THAT WAY. Hideous, impractical "shoot me here" bits that stick out like that are the domain of the Caldari, though I despise that such bits are in the game at all.
Caldari examples: Frigate hulls: Heron, condor, bantam Cruiser hulls: Osprey, Moa, blackbird, caracal Battleship hulls: Raven. And possibly the scorp, though we all pretend the stinger bit is housing weapons, not some fairytale trekkie-like bridge.
The ferox hull gets a out-of-jail card for looking like a angry piece on metal. In fact so angry that I almost forgive it not being symmetrical. |
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Camios
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2011.11.02 19:34:00 -
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Despite the thunder was stolen by the last video devblog, I like the ship and it being one of the new BCs meets my expectations.
But I see only 4 turret slots there.... either a WiP -related issue, or it's going to be a missile boat-or a split weapon system ship. |
Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy Spreadsheets Online
5
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Posted - 2011.11.02 19:41:00 -
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Oracle only has 6 lazors?
So the leak was wrong? Also wtf doesn't seem like it's going to compete.
Also everytime I look at that ship and can only think of sharlin warcruiser. |
drinking12many
Nine Inch Ninja Corp The Blood Eagle
1
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Posted - 2011.11.02 19:41:00 -
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Ariane VoxDei wrote: Battleship hulls: Raven. And possibly the scorp, though we all pretend the stinger bit is housing weapons, not some fairytale trekkie-like bridge.
In my mind the scorp stinger was where all the ecm equipment was kinda like the big tail on the old EF-111's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics/Grumman_EF-111A_Raven
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Tashanaka
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
6
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Posted - 2011.11.02 19:45:00 -
[64] - Quote
Looks like a giant clothes-pin. |
Kern Walzky
x13 Raiden.
5
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Posted - 2011.11.02 19:46:00 -
[65] - Quote
i still fail to see the need for even more hard hitting BC faster then most cruisers. i fail to see the role.
i would have liked to see a T3 BC instead? |
Ashlynn Tanaka
Nebula Engineering L.L.C.
4
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Posted - 2011.11.02 19:57:00 -
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I count 26 engines on that ship. I think it needs 4 more to make it an even 30.
"We've gone plaid."
Imagine the fuel economy on that sucker. I kid, I kid.
Even before the official unveiling, it is still a very sexy looking ship. It is making me consider training into Amarr ships and Energy turrets, plus armor tanking.
I was just thinking: Imagine if the front two plates were animated with a open and closing animation, and when they open up a hidden cluster of forward-facing laser turrets are revealed. You know... kind of like the front cannons on The Flying Dutchman from Pirates of the Carribbean.
Well, that leaves the Caldari T3 BC left to reveal. I can't wait. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
187
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Posted - 2011.11.02 20:06:00 -
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Kern Walzky wrote:i still fail to see the need for even more hard hitting BC faster then most cruisers. i fail to see the role.
i would have liked to see a T3 BC instead?
Shooting POS in smaller WHs. But yeah, you got a point.
Ashlynn Tanaka wrote:I was just thinking: Imagine if the front two plates were animated with a open and closing animation, and when they open up a hidden cluster of forward-facing laser turrets are revealed.
Drool. this is a signature |
Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
33
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Posted - 2011.11.02 20:09:00 -
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Ashlynn Tanaka wrote:I count 26 engines on that ship. I think it needs 4 more to make it an even 30. Imagine the fuel economy on that sucker. I kid, I kid.
Don't be mistaken into thinking those are engines........ 25 of them are BBQ grills for a hungry pilot's hot dogs.
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Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2011.11.02 20:15:00 -
[69] - Quote
Crazy KSK wrote:PS: please don't make the mistake and give it 2 passive bonuses ( tracking and optimal) give it one damage bonus with the stats from the leak the harbinger does almost more dps than it with mega pulses =(
The first one was actually the better design, making it not super seed the harbinger in DPS with only halve of the EHP to keep his role intact for fights up to point range. The current design got seriously less finesse, by plain outganking the harbinger and lacking the speed after tanking to be a excellent kitting platform, like the slicer and Zealot and a well rounded alternative to the harbinger. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
98
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Posted - 2011.11.02 20:22:00 -
[70] - Quote
Ariane VoxDei wrote:Not approved.
It has a sidebridge thing. Amarr ships DONT WORK THAT WAY. Hideous, impractical "shoot me here" bits that stick out like that are the domain of the Caldari, though I despise that such bits are in the game at all. ORLY? Omen, Zealot. |
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Warzon3
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 20:49:00 -
[71] - Quote
I am so gonna fly that ship |
Angel Lust
Vikinghall
10
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Posted - 2011.11.02 20:49:00 -
[72] - Quote
Is that a arazu ? a lachesis ? No.. Its a oracle Interesting looking ship |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
59
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:03:00 -
[73] - Quote
I actually voted for the Mentor.
So my reaction to this news is just like Meg Ryan in that famous scene.
Yessss. So... no affordable NEx store... no full-fledged Incarna... no casual content... no solo content... no PvE content...-á
Why should I keep paying to play this game? |
Darrow Hill
Eight Bit Industries
7
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:12:00 -
[74] - Quote
Should have been a Khanid boat, as there is still not a Khanid BC.
Just sayin'... |
Demon View
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:30:00 -
[75] - Quote
Tau Cabalander wrote:Ariane VoxDei wrote:Not approved.
It has a sidebridge thing. Amarr ships DONT WORK THAT WAY. Hideous, impractical "shoot me here" bits that stick out like that are the domain of the Caldari, though I despise that such bits are in the game at all. ORLY? Omen, Zealot.
Executioner, Slicer, Coercer. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:39:00 -
[76] - Quote
Demon View wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Ariane VoxDei wrote:Not approved.
It has a sidebridge thing. Amarr ships DONT WORK THAT WAY. Hideous, impractical "shoot me here" bits that stick out like that are the domain of the Caldari, though I despise that such bits are in the game at all. ORLY? Omen, Zealot. Executioner, Slicer, Coercer. Crucifier? |
Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:43:00 -
[77] - Quote
Jason Edwards wrote:Oracle only has 6 lazors?
So the leak was wrong? Also wtf doesn't seem like it's going to compete.
Also everytime I look at that ship and can only think of sharlin warcruiser.
Go read what it says under the picture. I'll wait. |
Tareen Kashaar
Gyoza Society
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:51:00 -
[78] - Quote
Henceforth, thou shalt be known as CCP Towelhead! |
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2011.11.02 22:15:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:Ashlynn Tanaka wrote:I count 26 engines on that ship. I think it needs 4 more to make it an even 30. Imagine the fuel economy on that sucker. I kid, I kid. Don't be mistaken into thinking those are engines........ 25 of them are BBQ grills for a hungry pilot's hot dogs.
Minnie on a spit slowly rotating over each one... |
Kuhn Arashi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.11.02 22:31:00 -
[80] - Quote
I Approve. |
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BringerMC
The Ghost Division
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 22:55:00 -
[81] - Quote
My only concern is that the Caldari ship will struggle as Torps suck against anything smaller than a BC unless they give it a TP bonus. Would love me a revisioned Calvary Raven though. Quick and with Torps; may the revival of the Calvary begin. |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
36
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Posted - 2011.11.02 23:19:00 -
[82] - Quote
So am i correct in thinking that these ships are going to work like maruaders? since the oracle only has 4 turret slots?
PLEASE BE 100% bonus |
Neurotica
Abh Empire Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2011.11.02 23:39:00 -
[83] - Quote
One thing that has got me.
The person who's ship design this is didn't win anything in the contest.
I hope out of morality CCP has re-embursed this person, somehow.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
191
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Posted - 2011.11.02 23:42:00 -
[84] - Quote
Largo Coronet wrote:Tippia wrote:It also means that only the Caldari are now lacking a vertical ship. Blatant bias on CCP's part! Buff Caldari! I believe the Heron/Buzzard would like to have a word with you...
Ohhh, can you imagine a BC or BS based roughly on that hull...
Anyway, the Caldari HAVE entered into the elite realm of the Catamaran hull ships which was formerly restricted to Gallante and in a small way Amarr. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Louis deGuerre
Malevolence. Void Alliance
60
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Posted - 2011.11.03 00:32:00 -
[85] - Quote
DaDutchDude wrote:It's
v e r t i c a l
Therefor, it wins!
This. I must have it !
FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
163
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Posted - 2011.11.03 00:48:00 -
[86] - Quote
CCP artist looking at original concept art
"hmm.. you know what this needs? MORE ENGINES!"
Seriously hot damn look at that back view! |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
101
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Posted - 2011.11.03 00:52:00 -
[87] - Quote
Just posting to say "awesome"
...Awesome.
This is my favorite of the BC designs... pretty sweet... looks like the Oracle has ample thrust! (I think there's still room on the aft observation deck for another thruster ) All GëíGêçGëí Ships | Many Odd GëíGêçGëí Items (+Drones) | <-- Links to showInfo in-game |
Matuk Grymwal
Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 00:57:00 -
[88] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Largo Coronet wrote:Tippia wrote:It also means that only the Caldari are now lacking a vertical ship. Blatant bias on CCP's part! Buff Caldari! I believe the Heron/Buzzard would like to have a word with you... Ohhh, can you imagine a BC or BS based roughly on that hull... Anyway, the Caldari HAVE entered into the elite realm of the Catamaran hull ships which was formerly restricted to Gallante and in a small way Amarr. Cough *Rifter/Wolf/Jag* ?
Stoopid Oracle making me train large lazzzors, I'm a matar pilot damnit. I only ever trained amarr cruiser for the damnation! |
Erim Solfara
inFluX.
3
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Posted - 2011.11.03 01:13:00 -
[89] - Quote
Is no-one else with me on the 'unbalanced thrusters make ships look stupid' issue? Thrusters need to act on the bulk of the ship, it's not hard to design these things so they at least look like they'd fly in a straight line rather than spinning in circles |
Kasidis
Noble Company
2
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 02:02:00 -
[90] - Quote
Neurotica wrote:One thing that has got me.
The person who's ship design this is didn't win anything in the contest.
I hope out of morality CCP has re-embursed this person, somehow.
You're kidding right? It came first place...... |
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Mrchafe
Harmless.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 02:16:00 -
[91] - Quote
Can't wait to see the caldari player version next talos is still my fav though |
Havak Kouvo
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.03 02:19:00 -
[92] - Quote
They are saving the best for last. At last a TORP BATTLECRUISER!!! can you image that... a battlecruiser with torpedoes. It could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire. |
Mrchafe
Harmless.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 02:55:00 -
[93] - Quote
Fire it is then!!!! |
Cheekything
Black Lance Executive Outcomes
68
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 03:08:00 -
[94] - Quote
DaDutchDude wrote:It's
v e r t i c a l
Therefor, it wins!
This xD |
Kassasis Dakkstromri
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
94
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Posted - 2011.11.03 03:12:00 -
[95] - Quote
Another Verticle!!!
Literally! |
Kassasis Dakkstromri
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
94
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Posted - 2011.11.03 03:13:00 -
[96] - Quote
Cheekything wrote:DaDutchDude wrote:It's
v e r t i c a l
Therefor, it wins! This xD
How funny that we just randomly happen to post one right after the other?
You need to PM me or something you Cheeky Bastard!! |
Stan Smith
Remenent British Federation
8
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 03:35:00 -
[97] - Quote
Havak Kouvo wrote:They are saving the best for last. At last a TORP BATTLECRUISER!!! can you image that... a battlecruiser with torpedoes. It could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire.
cos it murders tons of dudes because it shoots shurikens and lightning! |
Sturmwolke
35
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Posted - 2011.11.03 03:41:00 -
[98] - Quote
+9000 Stamp of Approval ! Amarr Victor!! Long live the empress! |
bp920091
The Nyan Cat Pirates Extract.
2
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 03:42:00 -
[99] - Quote
Tashanaka wrote:Looks like a giant clothes-pin.
Clothespin of DOOM.
Imagine a Stealth bomber with the speed of a nano BC and 1.5x the dps. Oh, and with a tank that can actually widstand 5 warrior IIs for longer than 30 seconds without dipping into armor.
That is a VERY nice ship. Im definitely training BC V, just about to finish Logi V, so thats next on my list (or should i go recon/HAC 5). The indecision. ARGHH |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
187
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Posted - 2011.11.03 04:32:00 -
[100] - Quote
Erim Solfara wrote:Is no-one else with me on the 'unbalanced thrusters make ships look stupid' issue? Thrusters need to act on the bulk of the ship, it's not hard to design these things so they at least look like they'd fly in a straight line rather than spinning in circles
I'm not with you. There's so many things in ship design that is not logical for a variety of reasons. It's better the ship look sexy as hell. And then again, we have alot of people whining about non-symmetrical ships too. I love non-symmetrical ships. It's like they usually say about fantasy MMO's and men playing female characters: "If I'm going to spend alot fo time watching this character, it might as well have a good looking ass". this is a signature |
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Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2011.11.03 05:31:00 -
[101] - Quote
CCP might go overboard with the nerfing making everything but the minmatar bc thrasher worth flying. I'm not sure if i am going to bother holding my figures and ill come back when they post some stats that will be final |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Intrepid Crossing
11
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:04:00 -
[102] - Quote
Kern Walzky wrote:i still fail to see the need for even more hard hitting BC faster then most cruisers. i fail to see the role.
i would have liked to see a T3 BC instead?
For those without the cap building ability of 0.0 this is a breakout ship that they can train and actually damage capital ships significantly. |
Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
70
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 07:58:00 -
[103] - Quote
The Oracle looks really good with four turret hard points... what if it got a 100% damage bonus to large energy turrets to keep it pretty? |
Wolfman122
Galactic Shipyards Inc NEM3SIS.
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 08:38:00 -
[104] - Quote
So let me get this straight, the Amarr Oracle does massive damage at mid to long range, but the new Gallente ship is a glass cannon blaster boat? Sigh Gallente get screwed again for anything BC that is actually practical in a fleet fight.
Looks like it's time to cross train.
-wolfman
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Leon Razor
Measure Zero
5
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 08:46:00 -
[105] - Quote
I love the design of this ship. So happy to see it find a place in EVE. Looking forward to the Tornado as well. I'm still on the fence with the Talos, but the design definitely makes me think of a bigger, blockier Deimos. Makes sense since it's the same idea but with bigger guns.
While I'm here, I wanted to ask if we might ever see the Naru-Kami by Baranha come to EVE (it won second place behind the Tornado). I love the detailed command bridge on that ship and everything else about it. Anyone else really like it and have a some ideas on what role it might fill? |
Raneru
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
8
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:39:00 -
[106] - Quote
I'm looking forward to flying the Oracle and Tornado. Unless the hybrid/ship changes make a huge difference, I can't see the Talos being any more popular than the Brutix/Deimos/Hyperion as you'd basically need to drop it right on something at 0. The caldari one may interest people who do anomalies/belts im guessing?
I'll definately be getting one of each to try them out though |
Dilligafmofo
Sandman Plc Laika.
28
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:48:00 -
[107] - Quote
Looks awesome.
Anyone have a tissue ?
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 09:57:00 -
[108] - Quote
Erim Solfara wrote:Is no-one else with me on the 'unbalanced thrusters make ships look stupid' issue? Thrusters need to act on the bulk of the ship, it's not hard to design these things so they at least look like they'd fly in a straight line rather than spinning in circles
I imagine, that the weight distribution of the ship was designed in such a way that it would work, after all we can't see all the funky, flashy parts and lights and machineries that make that nifty piece of faith enforcing space ship work.
EDIT: besides all those nice little thruster in the upper half could just be there to enable better ship spinning, or did You see any other maneuver thrusters? |
David Xavier
The Scope Gallente Federation
16
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 10:01:00 -
[109] - Quote
At least the Oracle and the Tornado looks awesome, the Naga is so-so. Let's forget about the 4th one, seeing how it turned out and they sticking with that model makes my blood boil. |
Luscius Uta
HAMMER STAR BLADE Universal Paranoia Alliance
1
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 10:18:00 -
[110] - Quote
Reminds me of turrets of Portal, but I like it. Also, "Oracle" is much better name than "Mentor". |
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Damien White
Sonnenlegion Smacked Alliance
14
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Posted - 2011.11.03 10:20:00 -
[111] - Quote
Raneru wrote:I'm looking forward to flying the Oracle and Tornado. Unless the hybrid/ship changes make a huge difference, I can't see the Talos being any more popular than the Brutix/Deimos/Hyperion as you'd basically need to drop it right on something at 0. The caldari one may interest people who do anomalies/belts im guessing? I'll definately be getting one of each to try them out though
Sir, you officialy never fought against a Vigilant or Vindicator. Blasters may be weak, but once these Webbers get in Range you are in big trouble.
Talos with Web, Warp Disrupt, MWD and Cap Booster will **** your ass. 97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,
"DO A BARREL ROLL!" |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 10:26:00 -
[112] - Quote
Havak Kouvo wrote:They are saving the best for last. At last a TORP BATTLECRUISER!!! can you image that... a battlecruiser with torpedoes. It could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire.
I already have a frigatte witth torps... it's faster, has greater range than any other existing torp boat and is nigh unhittable for any Battleship that won't use cruise or heavy missiles... |
Damien White
Sonnenlegion Smacked Alliance
15
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 10:40:00 -
[113] - Quote
Debora Tsung wrote:Havak Kouvo wrote:They are saving the best for last. At last a TORP BATTLECRUISER!!! can you image that... a battlecruiser with torpedoes. It could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire. I already have a frigatte witth torps... it's faster, has greater range than any other existing torp boat and is nigh unhittable for any Battleship that won't use cruise or heavy missiles...
Except for the Drones of said BS.
The Torp Ship may also suck, because no Bonus on Painters. 97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,
"DO A BARREL ROLL!" |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 10:47:00 -
[114] - Quote
Damien White wrote:
Except for the Drones of said BS.
The Torp Ship may also suck, because no Bonus on Painters.
Just a Minor setback ^^ besides, You'd need all drone range increasing skills to level 5 AND a drone link augmentor to be able to send those ugly little buggers after me... sentries excluded those are really nasty. -.-
Of course a Drone Boat like the Dominix will just have two DLAs. But I'm also confident that I'll neve ever have to fight a dominix in my single poor little manticore (I'd try to cloak up or flee the scene until back up arrives). ^-^ |
Damien White
Sonnenlegion Smacked Alliance
15
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 10:55:00 -
[115] - Quote
If you engage me at this Range I simply warp out.
1 type of ship against another Bombers are kinda weak, you need Recons etc to effectively utilize your range.
But tbh, thats what I like at these new ships, they are kinda the same. 97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,
"DO A BARREL ROLL!" |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 11:00:00 -
[116] - Quote
Damien White wrote:If you engage me at this Range I simply warp out.
1 type of ship against another Bombers are kinda weak, you need Recons etc to effectively utilize your range.
But tbh, thats what I like at these new ships, they are kinda the same.
I can see me pondering the market, thinking "It looks so cool, wantwantwantwant.... But my Bomber can do the same and costs only a tenth... '-.- " |
Salvia Olima
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
6
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 11:23:00 -
[117] - Quote
Is it a Templar, an amarr fighter used in carriers? |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 11:46:00 -
[118] - Quote
Salvia Olima wrote:Is it a Templar, an amarr fighter used in carriers?
lol no, I actually wanted to sy stealth bomber ^^
I suspect the price will be pretty high as long as those ships are new. |
Shadowsword
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
59
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Posted - 2011.11.03 11:54:00 -
[119] - Quote
They said it would be a little cheaper than battleships. I suspect somewhere around 45-50M. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 12:04:00 -
[120] - Quote
Shadowsword wrote:They said it would be a little cheaper than battleships. I suspect somewhere around 45-50M.
Still expensive, I bought my Stealth Bomber for 14m isk (w/o equipment of course), and that's a Frig with Torpedoes, Bomb Launcher AND CovOps device. True enough, it's a victim to other frigs and drone boats but I don't see a BC With large guns doing particularly much damage to frigs either. ^^ |
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 12:18:00 -
[121] - Quote
First of all: Caldari Tier 3 Battlecruiser HAS to be a Hybrid ship for several reasons. A shame it has the shape of a Megathron, however we might as well show the gallente scum how it's done...
Second: If not all the battlecruisers gets it I'd imagine CCP using the Marauder method to enable the Oracle firing large lasers without having to buff their capacitor beyond sane capacity.
All ships looking fine except the excessive amount of engines on the Oracle. I can't however wait to fly those babies if the large guns can track what I'm aiming at. I wonder if they get a role bonus for tracking?
My only concern is how they will fit in the role of massive dps and little tank when the tier 2 BC's (like hurricane) are already capable of delivering near equal dps to many battleships while also being able to focus that dps on smaller ships.
Pinky. |
Hedio Koajema
The Dude's Interstellar Enterprizes Quixotic Hegemony
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 12:18:00 -
[122] - Quote
OMG LAZOR PEW PEW!!!!
Thats my 10 pence |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 12:25:00 -
[123] - Quote
Hedio Koajema wrote:OMG LAZOR PEW PEW!!!!
Thats my 10 pence
Lazor Razor pwns the day... and wins a beauty contest, free pink paint and Hello Kitty air brush stenzils available in Jita now. |
B'atou
Projekt Erzengel Eternal Evocations
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 12:35:00 -
[124] - Quote
me likes it!!!!!
Looks even better than the harbinger and a real bad ass amarr ship!
------------------------------------------- Every winner needs a looser, only idiots need a leader! |
Hedio Koajema
The Dude's Interstellar Enterprizes Quixotic Hegemony
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 12:39:00 -
[125] - Quote
Debora Tsung wrote:Hedio Koajema wrote:OMG LAZOR PEW PEW!!!!
Thats my 10 pence Lazor Razor pwns the day... and wins a beauty contest, free pink paint and Hello Kitty air brush stenzils available in Jita now.
Cant wait now hello kitty face on the front with my hotdogs cooking on the back of my big pink ship oh and the bit on the side that sticks out is for the optional cocco chanell hand bag available at the NEX for 10000000 ARUM |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
0
|
Posted - 2011.11.03 12:42:00 -
[126] - Quote
Hedio Koajema wrote: Cant wait now hello kitty face on the front with my hotdogs cooking on the back of my big pink ship oh and the bit on the side that sticks out is for the optional cocco chanell hand bag available at the NEX for 10000000 ARUM Can't wait, the pure awesome will blow my mind. |
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
the Organ Grinder and Company Higginbotham and Bailey's Circus
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 13:59:00 -
[127] - Quote
First there was the Geddon... now there is the Oracle... is there any doubt what will happen this February ? |
Buzzmong
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.11.03 14:09:00 -
[128] - Quote
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf wrote: is there any doubt what will happen this February ? Valentine's day? |
Fujiko MaXjolt
ACME HARDWARE
2
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Posted - 2011.11.03 14:38:00 -
[129] - Quote
Tippia wrote:DaDutchDude wrote:It's
v e r t i c a l
Therefor, it wins! It also means that only the Caldari are now lacking a vertical ship. Blatant bias on CCP's part! Buff Caldari!
So.... Heron Griffin ... ? Come again ? |
E man Industries
SeaChell Productions
115
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Posted - 2011.11.03 14:40:00 -
[130] - Quote
bug anyone else that it has lots of thrusters in the top and none at the bottom so at full thrust the thing wouldnot be able to fly straight?
Please add a bottom thruster. I have actually Un-subbed my acounts, We need more to do, not more to wear. E-mail me when CCP has decent content a casual player can access in a 1-2h play period that is actually fun and contributes to long term goals. |
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Elistea
Seedless Inc Shadow of xXDEATHXx
2
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Posted - 2011.11.03 14:58:00 -
[131] - Quote
Rly nice piece of work this ship! Also like the name - fits Amarr BC name tree: Prophecy --> Harbinger --> Oracle
Also hope for some new BS in not so distant future. Id love to finaly see some T2 PVP BS.
We alrdy have Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon so why not Cataclysm:)
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Elaine Shandrate
Luna Decrescentia Celeris
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 15:24:00 -
[132] - Quote
Elistea wrote:Rly nice piece of work this ship! Also like the name - fits Amarr BC name tree: Prophecy --> Harbinger --> Oracle
Also hope for some new BS in not so distant future. Id love to finaly see some T2 PVP BS.
We alrdy have Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon so why not Cataclysm:)
What was the destroyer's name again? |
Elistea
Seedless Inc Shadow of xXDEATHXx
2
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Posted - 2011.11.03 15:39:00 -
[133] - Quote
Elaine Shandrate wrote:Elistea wrote:Rly nice piece of work this ship! Also like the name - fits Amarr BC name tree: Prophecy --> Harbinger --> Oracle
Also hope for some new BS in not so distant future. Id love to finaly see some T2 PVP BS.
We alrdy have Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon so why not Cataclysm:)
What was the destroyer's name again?
Coercer |
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
2
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Posted - 2011.11.03 16:42:00 -
[134] - Quote
Not the ship I voted for in the contest but def a fresh look for the amarr and I for one can't wait to fly one :) |
Brego Tralowski
Galactic Extensive Technologies SUB ROSA ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 16:56:00 -
[135] - Quote
Really looking forward to flying this and causing a little mayhem. Also think I just found my personal flagship - thanks CCP - here's to another years great gaming and fun times |
Erim Solfara
inFluX.
4
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Posted - 2011.11.03 16:58:00 -
[136] - Quote
Misanth wrote:Erim Solfara wrote:Is no-one else with me on the 'unbalanced thrusters make ships look stupid' issue? Thrusters need to act on the bulk of the ship, it's not hard to design these things so they at least look like they'd fly in a straight line rather than spinning in circles I'm not with you. There's so many things in ship design that is not logical for a variety of reasons. It's better the ship look sexy as hell. And then again, we have alot of people whining about non-symmetrical ships too. I love non-symmetrical ships. It's like they usually say about fantasy MMO's and men playing female characters: "If I'm going to spend alot of time watching this character, it might as well have a good looking ass".
No, I'm sorry but violating child-level physics is not one of the things we just ignore for the sake of questionable aesthetic improvements. If you push a block of wood along a table at one end, you don't expect it to do anything other than spin, every single person alive over 6 years old understands this. Asymmetric ships are fine, as long as the thrusters are based where they should vaguely be (all ships are asymmetric along at least one axis). The Kestrel is a reasonable example of this, where there is a large bulk off centre, it has it's own thruster to even things out.
Your argument for ignoring the physics is 'it might as well look good'. The original render for the Mentor only has two, maybe three thrusters, and it looks GREAT. Adding all those extra ones to the top half is going to make it look ******* ridiculously when you're flying it, remember engine trails are coming back, you're not going to see anything other than a blue-white bloomtacular mess if you look at the ship from any angle 'behind' it. Ditch the bloody top thrusters.
Debora Tsung wrote:Erim Solfara wrote:Is no-one else with me on the 'unbalanced thrusters make ships look stupid' issue? Thrusters need to act on the bulk of the ship, it's not hard to design these things so they at least look like they'd fly in a straight line rather than spinning in circles I imagine, that the weight distribution of the ship was designed in such a way that it would work, after all we can't see all the funky, flashy parts and lights and machineries that make that nifty piece of faith enforcing space ship work. EDIT: besides all those nice little thruster in the upper half could just be there to enable better ship spinning, or did You see any other maneuver thrusters?
Maneuvering thrusters are generally omitted, I'd prefer it if they weren't, obviously, but it's standard practice in eve not to bother with them. If the extra thrusters on the Oracle were BELOW the centre point, I might be able to excuse it considering that ships orbit with their 'top' orientated into the target. The thrusters would be in the right place to make it orbit like they actually do then, as they are, they'd work AGAINST it, which is even more absurd than just pretending we don't need maneuvering thrusters.
E man Industries wrote:bug anyone else that it has lots of thrusters in the top and none at the bottom so at full thrust the thing wouldnot be able to fly straight?
Please add a bottom thruster.
Yes, immensely, but I'm in favour of removing the superfluous thrusters rather than adding MOAR to it, it looks like it'll be a mess with the engine trails and whatnot already, adding more doesn't seem like the solution to me.
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Thelron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 17:45:00 -
[137] - Quote
/agree with "wtfphysics" group, apart from that it looks GREAT but the engines do bug me.
As for the caldari thread-jack... the BC in anticipated torp-mode sounds like it could be a return to some of the old "Surprise! Have some death!" tricks cruisers used to be able to pull with the original missile systems (oh, trying to kite me? Have fun running away from some cruise missiles. Oh, now you're trying to jam me? Have FoF Cruises, ******!). "highly effective" or not, should still be much fun. |
Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 18:50:00 -
[138] - Quote
Raid'En wrote:i only see 4 turrets hardpoints, strange.
Could be like the Nightmare :+100% to large energy turret damage |
Pharuan
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 20:16:00 -
[139] - Quote
Elistea wrote:Rly nice piece of work this ship! Also like the name - fits Amarr BC name tree: Prophecy --> Harbinger --> Oracle
Also hope for some new BS in not so distant future. Id love to finaly see some T2 PVP BS.
We alrdy have Armageddon, Apocalypse, Abaddon so why not Cataclysm:)
But it doesn't start with the letter A. |
Holy Cheater
Monks of War DarkSide.
11
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:15:00 -
[140] - Quote
More vertical ships, huh? |
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
3
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:17:00 -
[141] - Quote
In space with 0 resistance I believe the place of thrusters doesn't matter... |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
8
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:34:00 -
[142] - Quote
looks great except for that WTF ammount of thrusters at the top |
Erim Solfara
inFluX.
4
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:47:00 -
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Pinky Denmark wrote:In space with 0 resistance I believe the place of thrusters doesn't matter...
Not true, momentum, inertia, force, etc are all still in full effect. Astronaut's still have to push off the walls to move around in the ISS.
To clarify, the three large and three small thrusters in the centre mass are fine, but the extra 20 smaller thrusters at the top are just silly, and I imagine will look a mess in game. |
Illectroculus Defined
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.11.04 00:01:00 -
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Pinky Denmark wrote:In space with 0 resistance I believe the place of thrusters doesn't matter...
Put that theory into to the test - download Kerbal Space Program and try to build an asymmetric rocket. |
Pharuan
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
0
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Posted - 2011.11.04 00:03:00 -
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But imagine all the trails it would leave! |
Erim Solfara
inFluX.
4
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Posted - 2011.11.04 00:06:00 -
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There are 20 thrusters plus the six that make sense if I recall correctly. The trails from all that would be a bloody mess, it'd end up as a massive blue-white blob in the middle of the screen from anything but the front. Look at the original drawing, it looks great with just 2/3 trails. |
Mordecai Heller
Bastards Of New Eden Damned Nation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.04 00:29:00 -
[147] - Quote
Now can't wait to see the page about the Ascog. I hope you didn't think that we Caldari loyalists wouldn't notice it on the screen. |
Hannibal Ord
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
43
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Posted - 2011.11.04 01:16:00 -
[148] - Quote
Nice design. But it's still hideous design. |
Ariane VoxDei
6
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Posted - 2011.11.05 21:52:00 -
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Ok, now I have been on sisi (today)
Happily the sidething, which I complained about earlier, appears to be gone - or at least it is on my settings. +1
And the bonus to energy turret usage is actually -75% effectively as espected, though it takes BC V to get there, which is a much steeper SP investment than Cruiser V (thinking of the harbinger, to obtain similar cap). However, this does not go hand in hand with Ytterbiums talk in the latest video. I suggest moving it to 10% per cruiser instead of 10% per BC (since you only need those two at III to get into it), but I would really prefer it being a flat -75% role bonus, unless you are really desperate to force people away from amarr (or force them into taking BC5 and fly commandships).
3 mids is not happy happy at all, for all the usual reasons.
Overall visual is ok so far, I just don't like the airgap between the 2 triangular sideplates (on either side) and the main hull, but that is almost nitpicking. So far only the 6 center engines glow. Try to keep it like that. Those 14 round things higher up would be way too much as engine exhausts. They would really steal too much of the show from the lazers, quite apart from the inyourface annoyance when not zoomed out.
Combatwise, I am not convinced yet. To me it is screaming for a 4 hardpoint setup with a 100% bonus to large energy turrets. And so far i pretty much stand by the somewhat heretical view of generalizing that quite a bit as mentioned previously, granting all the tier3 battlecruiser complete flexibility in picking large guns: fitting bonus to all gun types 4 hardpoints with 100% to large guns of any type energy use bonuses as needed.
Anyway, in its current state, I do not see why you would not take (or train for) a geddon/apoc/ tornado instead. |
Sader Rykane
The Dark Space Initiative Revival Of The Talocan Empire
128
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Posted - 2011.11.06 13:49:00 -
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God CCP wtf do you have against cool looking ships?
This thing looks so incredibly stupid. |
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
164
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Posted - 2011.11.07 23:14:00 -
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Pinky Denmark wrote:In space with 0 resistance I believe the place of thrusters doesn't matter...
Space does have resistance. Not a lot...but more than 0. Any kind of gravity at all causes resistance in space. Space also has matter in the form of all sorts of **** flying around...specs of dust and whatever that cause resistance. And yes there is gravity in space. If you are within any of the solar systems in EvE you would as an example be effected by the gravity of a star, planet or even moon even if it is really far away. Farther away you get the less the gravity is of course. Scientists have been able to measure the minute gravitational pull of objects in space millions and millions of miles away.
Well...I digress... Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Jojo Jackson
0
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Posted - 2011.11.08 01:54:00 -
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But WHY again this NO-bonus of 10% cap usage for Laser??
Guys, this is for real NO BONUS!! It's a pre-gimp as many Armar ships suffer 1 bonus as this is nothink but "we don't want to give this ship better cap or cap-regen".
Fix it before you release this patch! 50% more BASE cap or 50% better BASE cap recharg. Add REAL bonus like tracking/range/rof/armor/.. anythink but make it a REAL bonus like the other 3 races get!
And for the other Laser boats which a pre-gimped with this ANTI-bonus ... lower the damn cap usage of lasers and give this ships a REAL bonus!
PS: It's ******* stupid, that for example Legion Drone offensive does MORE damage with Autocannons then with Lasers! Same for Maller and Punisher.
It just makes clear, how FAIL this ANTI-bonus is! :( |
Keen Fallsword
Billionaires Club C0VEN
5
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Posted - 2011.11.08 03:12:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:But WHY again this NO-bonus of 10% cap usage for Laser??
50% more BASE cap or 50% better BASE cap recharg. Add REAL bonus like tracking/range/rof/armor/.. anythink but make it a REAL bonus like the other 3 races get!
And for the other Laser boats which a pre-gimped with this ANTI-bonus ... lower the damn cap usage of lasers and give this ships a REAL bonus!
Well not 3 races :) dont ask about gallente talos hehe :)
We can Say that this patch got only one good ship and it is tornado of coz.... There is something really strange that mini are the best in almost everything well not in caps and supers but we will see coz they may be tweeked. Anyway add mini skills to yours skills set :( coz ccp dont change minmatar as we know devs fave race. I may only Say that this is happening when you allow your workers to play in mmo haha
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Siabhra
Interstellar Archaeology
3
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Posted - 2011.11.08 04:10:00 -
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Me likey!!
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Trash Ice
Black Sharks Division Reckless Chavs
0
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Posted - 2011.11.09 10:42:00 -
[155] - Quote
For the Love of God! Make more than 3 med slots |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
176
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Posted - 2011.11.10 18:43:00 -
[156] - Quote
Trash Ice wrote:I'm shitting bricks
Does it hurts?
You can train for Talos and Gallente if you really want to fly bad stuff.
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Trash Ice
Black Sharks Division Reckless Chavs
0
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Posted - 2011.11.11 04:14:00 -
[157] - Quote
SUDDENLY, i want to fly amarrian bad staf
this thing would be really bad with some useful bonus like tracking or optimal and 4 meds
btw does anybody noticed THIS: Tornado: rof + falloff bonus Talos: dmg + tracking bonus Naga: topedo velocity OR optimal bonus (coz there is no sense in fitting both torps and hybrids) Oracle: dmg + CAPACITOR USE
sooooo.... WHY oracle and naga have only one useful bonus?
not to speak of "50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets" so oracle already has capacitor bonus - why should i be happy about second one?
CCP, please, give some bad sh*t to amarr |
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
19
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Posted - 2011.11.14 00:36:00 -
[158] - Quote
Trash Ice wrote:SUDDENLY, i want to fly amarrian bad staf
this thing would be really bad with some useful bonus like tracking or optimal and 4 meds
btw does anybody noticed THIS: Tornado: rof + falloff bonus Talos: dmg + tracking bonus Naga: topedo velocity OR optimal bonus (coz there is no sense in fitting both torps and hybrids) Oracle: dmg + CAPACITOR USE
sooooo.... WHY oracle and naga have only one useful bonus?
not to speak of "50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets" so oracle already has capacitor bonus - why should i be happy about second one?
CCP, please, give some bad sh*t to amarr
1.) Tornado is still great. 2.) Talos is still going to only be good for what blaster boats do already just fine. 3.) Naga is going to be in the above Talos as good for what blaster boats do already just fine and though some torps on for pos/cap bashing. 4.) Oracle is probly the worst off as it is not going to have the staying power of other Large Energy weapon ships and no one was asking for or even expeting a faster Large Energy weapon ship. Is added speed going to hose pulse tracking on a smaller faster ship that gets no added tracking bonus?
And all of the T3 BC will suffer in major fleet fights against real BS's. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2011.11.14 12:01:00 -
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Well actually I'm happy when I have Oracles in my SISI fleets, they have this important stuff that is range versatility and application. Strong enough tanks to not make logis cry good speed, overall I'd say a good ship.
So don't be bored about your thrusters placement, it's less important than some other BC's being completely and utterly useless once again for fleet engagements where usual range is between 60 to 80km
Haven't try small gang engagement type, so I can't say who good/bad this Oracle is at this game but I'm willing to think it does he's game very well. |
m0cking bird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2011.11.14 13:33:00 -
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ORACLE is possibly the best of all tier battle-cruiser in fleets. I'm pretty freaking sure that these things can signature tank, with a large tank to begin with. Add a Damnation, Loki and they replace Zealot for the most part. In terms of price to performance and by the way. The best non-t2 cruiser for armour-HAC fleets is the Omen navy issue. This ship is alot better than that.
Also, it seems to be able to Nano pretty well. Think it's a good thing it has only one mid slot because it would be to overpowered. Something I do not believe the Tornado is YET! |
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m0cking bird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2011.11.15 02:58:00 -
[161] - Quote
m0cking bird wrote:First of all. I'm of the Opinion that the ORACLE is the better alpha and damage per second platform compared to the Tornado. At-least when engagement range scale. Has twice the tracking of artillery, damage application and projection. While, I like the Naga and Talos for sniping. They're not in the same class as the ORACLE and maybe the Tornado. All are very good snipers. I'm not sure why you would use heavy assault cruisers with these around, but whatever.
You will at-least see fleets of both.
6,000 per volley, 900 damage per second. 7 second duration. That is about 2 1/3 shots between artillery (Tornado) volleys.
[Oracle, Gods Light] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
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Zhephell
Capts Deranged Cavaliers Strategic Defense Initiative Organization
0
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Posted - 2011.11.15 13:06:00 -
[162] - Quote
Hi, I see that new t3 battle cruisers are really easy to fit. The only one that has some difficulty to fit is the Naga, but compared to other ships specially battle ships those ships have a lot of power ( 95% reduction at bs guns has as result guns that need less power that cruiser guns, and t3 bc power is similar as t2 battle cruisers) Tornado and oracle are really easy to fit, as easy that I can see this in some forums:
((( [Oracle, armour] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Heat Sink II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
41km optimal, 450dps with scorch, 650dps with conflag, 70k EHP.
[Tornado, loool] Reactor Control Unit II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Stasis Webifier II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail L
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I
900dps with Hail, 800 with RF EMP, 600 with barrage and 75km fall off.... @ 4.3km/s - Yes, it's 29 seconds of align time but you accelerate to 1.5kms faster than you do if you only had a 10mn MWD so v0v. )))
An Oracle with 70k EHP !! That is more that many t2 bc that are supposed to have more ehp, and this oracle has mwd. Harbis and prophecy = trash compared with this oracle I have seen at you tube a video at the sisi server which had an oracle with 8 mega beam lasers, with active tank, afterburner, and cap booster and with any module to increase power , video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq-DrWnP--8
There is any amarr bs that can use 8 mega beams with any power control system , reactor control units or any Ancillary Current Router. And many times they need 2
And the tornado can use a BS MWD and have all his guns !!! wtf is this? I know that now it has 5% of falloff bonus and no more 10% so it isn t as difficult to kill, but T3 battle cruisers are really fast and very easy to fit, some ships as ACs tempest or ACs Maelstrom are worst that some tornados (why? Very simple, is your ship can be hunted because it is faster that the other ships, it has more chances to survive that a Maelstrom, and ll be cheaper.)
I hope that you have already noticed those things at sisi server |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:23:00 -
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Zhephell wrote:Hi, I see that new t3 battle cruisers are really easy to fit.
Try to fit 425mm RG II on Talos and say that again
Was only able to fit 4 of them with 0 mods other than guns...bug, not bug...? - probably not
Well soon enough I'll be training Amarr too so I'll not be restricted to Tornado or Tornado. Well some Talos for miners gank or high sec indy gank (yummy)
Has Proxy I'm inclined to think this Oracle will very fast be a feared sight.
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