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Relain Linday	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:01:00 - [1] I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keybaord!
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:03:00 - [2] I agree...but sadly, no matter how many times we say this, they don't listen. I think they enjoy watching the blood drip from my eyes. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Morgit Seebring	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:14:00 - [3] Well, part of the arfument is that this game is (at least in part) by some teenagers who a) don't know better or b) don't care and will just do the opposite of what you tell them. Just gotta deal. Live long and be honourable. Laugh often. Remember... it's a game!!
Ishquar Teh'Sainte	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:16:00 - [4] <- uhm ... ... ... disclaimer: though i sometimes use "leetspeak" (more in the "setting a funny highlight through known context-thingy") my name has nothing to do with it ... it was only a typo which looked "cool" [<- ] ... sorry mate, but sometimes it is necessary to use some abbreviations ... and on the topic of leetspeak - here's a quite good wikipedia article ... and to be honest leetspeak is a slang (for some a quite annoying one) but slang is also a possibility to indentify with a certain group - allmost every culture out there (and especially subcultures) uses such slangs for group identification ... the restriction of language can be seen as an oppression of certain groups ... so, if you are annoyed by people using leetspeak - ignore them or tell them your opinion about at the moment when they use it .. 'nuf said _________________________________________ waiting for signature... []
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Morgit Seebring a) don't know better You have to go out of your way to use leetspeak, anybody who does it knows full well what he is doing. Originally by: Morgit Seebring b) don't care and will just do the opposite of what you tell them. Then they should get forum warnings until they DO care. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Zarthanon	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:17:00 - [6] Originally by: Relain Linday I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keybaord! Dude, get a hold of yourself. Obviously you don't realize that at least 1/3 of the people that play this game didn't learn English as their first language. You can't expect someone from Germany to speak perfect English, just as they can't expect you to speak perfect German. It's plain and simple, if you can't handle the way people type, leave the game. 99,999 subscribers won't change just because you want them to. Originally by: ParMizaN i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk Originally by: Buddrow TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO
Nirvy	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:22:00 - [7] Kids will be kids. I even had a CV sent to me for a trainee position, and half of the words were leet or txt abbreviations. I called him to ask if it was a joke, he didnt seem to know it wasn't considered good English. I advised him to go back to school or take an english course.
M3ta7h3ad	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:26:00 - [8] Edited by: M3ta7h3ad on 04/02/2006 11:26:28 Originally by: Relain Linday I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keybaord! Irony? and... << But im more against mis-spelt words and improper english to be honest. 1337 and "teh" is acceptable, what isnt acceptable is "u" "ur" and other similar non-words. ----- Memorable Quotes <Jarltan Dimtras> OH MY GOD MY GF IS A DUDE
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Relain Linday I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keybaord! I counted 14 errors in your post. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
SolarKnight	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:30:00 - [10] While the "style" of the original Post leaves a lot to be desired, I will say that I am completely and 100% agreed with the point they are trying to get across, I mean seriously, how does mistyping words with numbers in the middle make you look "cool"? The Light in the Darkness Origin Systems is Recruiting http://Origin.zapto.org
Relain Linday	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Relain Linday I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keybaord! I counted 14 errors in your post. duly noted and corrected BTW is was a little tongue in cheek jab about leet speak not spelling but hey ho thats the internet for you. People being brave behind a computor thinking they are unreachable. \flame on
AlienBreed	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:36:00 - [12] i get teh instead of the alot cause im a fast lazy typer sometimes i even go back and correct it Quote: I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337 that looks like chav speak to me,but hey, what do i know
Inc MuadDib	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:38:00 - [13] Most annoying to see are "u" instead of "you", "r" instead "are", "gd" instead of "good" and other superabundantly used abbreviations. Ok, I understand there are some combat situations when you need to pass information very quickly and don't have TS available. But we are talking about forum posts, casual in game chat and evemails. After all, while language gets more obscure, it requires more attention just to figure out what has been said.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:40:00 - [14] Originally by: Relain Linday Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Relain Linday I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keybaord! I counted 14 errors in your post. duly noted and corrected BTW is was a little tongue in cheek jab about leet speak not spelling but hey ho thats the internet for you. People being brave behind a computor thinking they are unreachable. \flame on You shouldn't be commenting about 1337speak when you can't even spell the name of your own language, English. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Ishquar Teh'Sainte	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:43:00 - [15] Originally by: SolarKnight While the "style" of the original Post leaves a lot to be desired, I will say that I am completely and 100% agreed with the point they are trying to get across, I mean seriously, how does mistyping words with numbers in the middle make you look "cool"? If you are meaning me ... i didn't say i decided to use this typo "to look cool", i decided to use this typo because it looked "cool" to ME ... there's a difference - it's more like "well this word has a certain shape on the paper/flow when spoken" - in my case i liked the "shape" of my name ... well i know the choosen words were a bit misleading ... the usage of the term "cool" can be discussed (but hey - look at the smileys ) but it's all about language and words - stop harrasing people who approach to language on a different vector btw - another word i like because of it's appearance: nausea _________________________________________ waiting for signature... []
Relain Linday	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:43:00 - [16] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Relain Linday Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Relain Linday I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keybaord! I counted 14 errors in your post. duly noted and corrected BTW is was a little tongue in cheek jab about leet speak not spelling but hey ho thats the internet for you. People being brave behind a computor thinking they are unreachable. \flame on You shouldn't be commenting about 1337speak when you can't even spell the name of your own language, English. Oh my goodness! You really did think that first sentence was serious, did'nt you? ha ha ha. Please Dark get a life
SolarKnight	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:46:00 - [17] Edited by: SolarKnight on 04/02/2006 11:46:58 To add to my post, I was not attacking anyone in particular, thats just my viewpoint on the subject in general. Sorry for any misunderstanding due to bad grammar etc. EDIT: Harassment! It harasses my eyes to read it , (don's flame proof vest) The Light in the Darkness Origin Systems is Recruiting http://Origin.zapto.org
Ishquar Teh'Sainte	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:47:00 - [18] no problem mate ... probably i should edit my second post ... at least one sentence could be misinterpreted too _________________________________________ waiting for signature... []
EXZODIER	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:47:00 - [19] WELCOME TO TEH WORLD OF MMORPG i dont know if u have oticed it or not but you are playing a game - and because its a game u get gamers playing it and when u are fighting or talking in lots of diffrent convos u tend to want to type a lot quicker so u use 1337 or u use cut down words shuch as GG - GF - GD - TNK - SRY - now if your an old git who wants to type to adults in correct english i suggest u go find a chat room or forum where they took abut the contents of the finacial times or the contents of a packet of corn flakes WE the gamers are here and we will not change for old people and yes i know my spelling is bad and yes english is my 1st launguage and NO I DONT CARE ! Deal with it HMMMMMMMM the end ? i think not
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:50:00 - [20] Leetspeak and AOLspeak (you=u, are=r, whatever) in forums, EVEmails, casual chat, etc, may be different, but they both stem from the same thing: A condition known as "being a moron". Hence, I tend not to actually differentiate between the two. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:51:00 - [21] Originally by: EXZODIER WELCOME TO TEH WORLD OF MMORPG i dont know if u have oticed it or not but you are playing a game - and because its a game u get gamers playing it and when u are fighting or talking in lots of diffrent convos u tend to want to type a lot quicker so u use 1337 or u use cut down words shuch as GG - GF - GD - TNK - SRY - now if your an old git who wants to type to adults in correct english i suggest u go find a chat room or forum where they took abut the contents of the finacial times or the contents of a packet of corn flakes WE the gamers are here and we will not change for old people and yes i know my spelling is bad and yes english is my 1st launguage and NO I DONT CARE ! Deal with it The idea that only old people care about proper writing is COMPLETELY false. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
SolarKnight	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:54:00 - [22] Edited by: SolarKnight on 04/02/2006 11:55:13 Old!! I'm only 22. Age means nothing, clear communication is everything. certain abbreviations are commonly used, accepted and fine, but typing that looks like a personalised number plate is chasing you isnt exactly going to emphasise your point very much. The Light in the Darkness Origin Systems is Recruiting http://Origin.zapto.org
EXZODIER	Posted - 2006.02.04 11:58:00 - [23] Originally by: SolarKnight Edited by: SolarKnight on 04/02/2006 11:55:13 Old!! I'm only 22. Age means nothing, clear communication is everything. certain abbreviations are commonly used, accepted and fine, but typing that looks like a personalised number plate is chasing you isnt exactly going to emphasise your point very much. then maybe u should go slap your parents around a bit coz obviously u have only just been able to get a PC and hook up coz if this aint the case perhaps they should of took the child safty filter off coz belive it or not there is many off us out there that enjoy what we do playing games and have made our own way to comunicate wich is a lot easier thenb typeing every word out fully - and do u type out every word in full or do u use the names we do like MWD - stabs - BB HMMMMMMMM the end ? i think not
SolarKnight	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:08:00 - [24] Parents, profanity filter, please im far from being a sheltered individual, you have your way, I have mine. I never said anything about people's playstyle, and I am a fast enough typer normally to be able to communicate effectively with full words, yes I'm lazy at times, but everyone is. I've been using the internet for what, 6 years at least so if you think your flame is anything I haven't seen before, forget it. (Why is it always the pvpers who get so frustrated about people critisizing them) The Light in the Darkness Origin Systems is Recruiting http://Origin.zapto.org
M3ta7h3ad	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:09:00 - [25] Edited by: M3ta7h3ad on 04/02/2006 12:09:38 Originally by: EXZODIER Originally by: SolarKnight Edited by: SolarKnight on 04/02/2006 11:55:13 Old!! I'm only 22. Age means nothing, clear communication is everything. certain abbreviations are commonly used, accepted and fine, but typing that looks like a personalised number plate is chasing you isnt exactly going to emphasise your point very much. then maybe u should go slap your parents around a bit coz obviously u have only just been able to get a PC and hook up coz if this aint the case perhaps they should of took the child safty filter off coz belive it or not there is many off us out there that enjoy what we do playing games and have made our own way to comunicate wich is a lot easier thenb typeing every word out fully - and do u type out every word in full or do u use the names we do like MWD - stabs - BB Acronyms and Gibberish... There's a difference. ----- Memorable Quotes <Jarltan Dimtras> OH MY GOD MY GF IS A DUDE
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:12:00 - [26] Originally by: Relain Linday Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Relain Linday Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Relain Linday I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keybaord! I counted 14 errors in your post. duly noted and corrected BTW is was a little tongue in cheek jab about leet speak not spelling but hey ho thats the internet for you. People being brave behind a computor thinking they are unreachable. \flame on You shouldn't be commenting about 1337speak when you can't even spell the name of your own language, English. Oh my goodness! You really did think that first sentence was serious, did'nt you? ha ha ha. Please Dark get a life I'm so used to people spelling badly here that I assume its not intentional -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:18:00 - [27] 0k. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:18:00 - [28] Originally by: Relain Linday If I see one more person spelling "the" teh You got something against us Maori? Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
hattifnatt	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:20:00 - [29] \/\/\|-\|4+ 1$ 133+$\|*34\|{ ??? ___ /o.0\ \___/ <-- This is Jigglypuff!! Your sig is a pokemon?!!?? - Wrangler - Imaran
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:43:00 - [30] Originally by: Relain Linday Oh my goodness! You really did think that first sentence was serious, did'nt you? ha ha ha. Please Dark get a life You post on an internet game forum about the proper use of English and then tell someone to get a life? Sweet Jesus, now I've seen it all.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:52:00 - [31] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Relain Linday Oh my goodness! You really did think that first sentence was serious, did'nt you? ha ha ha. Please Dark get a life You post on an internet game forum about the proper use of English and then tell someone to get a life? Sweet Jesus, now I've seen it all. Naaa... he is an 1337 poster. He can post and still have a life. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Lifewire	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:53:00 - [32] Sorry, but this game is not only played in the UK. A lot of spelling mistakes will simply happen because we have players of all countrys in this world. So how about you relax and stop think english is the only language on this world. Show some respect for the people that learned your language even if they didn¦t learn it perfectly. And by the way, i am 1337 Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
Laocoon	Posted - 2006.02.04 12:57:00 - [33] i will personally castrate the next person to say 'turrents'. -------------------------------------------- i collect heads Jacques > eris - anon who is stealing my pink? eris Be nice and share your pink - Wrangler would you share your bree? -eris You don't have to get personal about this - Wrangler I don't like it when Mommy and Daddy fight, please stop - Ductoris
Viruzzz2	Posted - 2006.02.04 13:10:00 - [34] Originally by: EXZODIER WELCOME TO TEH WORLD OF MMORPG i dont know if u have oticed it or not but you are playing a game - and because its a game u get gamers playing it and when u are fighting or talking in lots of diffrent convos u tend to want to type a lot quicker so u use 1337 or u use cut down words shuch as GG - GF - GD - TNK - SRY - now if your an old git who wants to type to adults in correct english i suggest u go find a chat room or forum where they took abut the contents of the finacial times or the contents of a packet of corn flakes WE the gamers are here and we will not change for old people and yes i know my spelling is bad and yes english is my 1st launguage and NO I DONT CARE ! Deal with it i'm 17, oh i feel so old! seriously. i accept people speaking it as a joke (mostly imitating the morons who write it) but i do NOT accept people writing it the entire time because they think its cool, it isn't. i also hate people who cannot write a "sentence" without 4 or 5 "LoL"'s or "ROFL"'s at the end
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.02.04 13:21:00 - [35] Originally by: Viruzzz2 i also hate people who cannot write a "sentence" without 4 or 5 "LoL"'s or "ROFL"'s at the end I hate people who have nothing better to do that care about how other people type ROFL LOL MAO COPTER Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
Cerui Tarshiel	Posted - 2006.02.04 13:31:00 - [36] This is not about spelling everything correctly or always having perferct grammar. There's quite an difference between not having a good grasp of english or choosing to write leet/aol/ircspeek. Also there is a difference between using abbreviations (like mwd, ab and so on) and simply not writing out the full word (like cuz, u and so). I can fully understand using it in combat and when you need to get something across quickly. But outburst of expletatives posting on the forums is not time critical in the sense that if you don't get your message across in 2 seconds then it's over. So please take extra two or three minutes to look over your post and think "gee, would I submit something like this in school or work". Plenty of spelling and dictionary websites available which are easy to use. And young age has nothing to do with it, the only real improvement from when I was 14 years old is my voculabury. Defenestration for the win :) P.s. I'm not a native english speaker, I've lived in Iceland my whole life. English is not even my secondary language if you go by when I started to learn it. Fanaticism is only one step away from bararism - Denis Diderot
Copine Callmeknau	Posted - 2006.02.04 14:35:00 - [37] Originally by: EXZODIER WELCOME TO TEH WORLD OF MMORPG i dont know if u have oticed it or not but you are playing a game - and because its a game u get gamers playing it and when u are fighting or talking in lots of diffrent convos u tend to want to type a lot quicker so u use 1337 or u use cut down words shuch as GG - GF - GD - TNK - SRY - now if your an old git who wants to type to adults in correct english i suggest u go find a chat room or forum where they took abut the contents of the finacial times or the contents of a packet of corn flakes WE the gamers are here and we will not change for old people and yes i know my spelling is bad and yes english is my 1st launguage and NO I DONT CARE ! Deal with it What in the hell does age have to do with it? I think it comes down to that most people would like to read English, not some bastardised AOL-ese butchery of the language. Seen as you won't change for 'old people' such as myself, I guess that puts you around the age of 8-12. Guess what kiddo, I'm sixteen. You must be in preschool if you think I'm old If you are gonna type with your elbows, then you will never get any respect or credibility. ------- With five million sheep in this army I seem to be the only one fit to command
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2006.02.04 15:22:00 - [38] Originally by: Laocoon i will personally castrate the next person to say 'turrents'. Thank god, I thought I was the only one who this annoyed immencley.
Relain Linday	Posted - 2006.02.04 15:24:00 - [39] Originally by: Cerui Tarshiel This is not about spelling everything correctly or always having perferct grammar. There's quite an difference between not having a good grasp of english or choosing to write leet/aol/ircspeek. Also there is a difference between using abbreviations (like mwd, ab and so on) and simply not writing out the full word (like cuz, u and so). I can fully understand using it in combat and when you need to get something across quickly. But outburst of expletatives posting on the forums is not time critical in the sense that if you don't get your message across in 2 seconds then it's over. So please take extra two or three minutes to look over your post and think "gee, would I submit something like this in school or work". Plenty of spelling and dictionary websites available which are easy to use. And young age has nothing to do with it, the only real improvement from when I was 14 years old is my voculabury. Defenestration for the win :) P.s. I'm not a native english speaker, I've lived in Iceland my whole life. English is not even my secondary language if you go by when I started to learn it. Signed Originally by: Copine Callmeknau What in the hell does age have to do with it? I think it comes down to that most people would like to read English, not some bastardised AOL-ese butchery of the language. Seen as you won't change for 'old people' such as myself, I guess that puts you around the age of 8-12. Guess what kiddo, I'm sixteen. You must be in preschool if you think I'm old If you are gonna type with your elbows, then you will never get any respect or credibility. and signed at least some people, got my drift.
Charlie Gurb	Posted - 2006.02.04 15:29:00 - [40] 4++3\|/\|T10n n008s 0n t3h f0r0m! 1 4R3 t3h l33t357 n83R***** cH4R1i3 g0R8 joo m05t ph34R m3 4nD mY w0R7hl355 sp3ll1\|\\|g ski11z l0lz0r nubs!!! pwnz0r3d!!! sry...hehe....sry...couldnt help it
Hayzo	Posted - 2006.02.04 15:31:00 - [41] It's reached epidemic proportions. ____________________ "Your safe Boundaries were once unknown frontiers" Join channel: TKI-Net
Charlie Gurb	Posted - 2006.02.04 15:32:00 - [42] (Attention newbies on the forum. I am the elitest nber hacker Charlie Gurb. You must fear my worthless grammar skills. Lots of laughters newbies. Owned.) ^^ought to help you out^^
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 15:36:00 - [43] Originally by: EXZODIER then maybe u should go slap your parents around a bit coz obviously u have only just been able to get a PC and hook up coz if this aint the case perhaps they should of took the child safty filter off coz belive it or not there is many off us out there that enjoy what we do playing games and have made our own way to comunicate wich is a lot easier thenb typeing every word out fully - and do u type out every word in full or do u use the names we do like MWD - stabs - BB Please, EXZODIER, go slap your parents for just giving you a computer last week, because you clearly haven't yet learned to type fast enough to type out full words. Also slap them for not teaching you that punctuation (commas, periods, semicolons, colons, apostrophes) is required for proper communication -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 15:37:00 - [44] Originally by: Hayzo It's reached epidemic proportions. Oh dear god, Hayzo, I'm going to have nightmares. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Hayzo	Posted - 2006.02.04 15:40:00 - [45] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Hayzo It's reached epidemic proportions. Oh dear god, Hayzo, I'm going to have nightmares. At least I've done something constructive today. ____________________ "Your safe Boundaries were once unknown frontiers" Join channel: TKI-Net
Wira	Posted - 2006.02.04 16:49:00 - [46] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Relain Linday Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Relain Linday I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keybaord! I counted 14 errors in your post. duly noted and corrected BTW is was a little tongue in cheek jab about leet speak not spelling but hey ho thats the internet for you. People being brave behind a computor thinking they are unreachable. \flame on You shouldn't be commenting about 1337speak when you can't even spell the name of your own language, English. That was meant to be tongue in cheek, and spelled that way on purpose. People should put a tiny bit of effort into thinking about posting before they actually do it.
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:00:00 - [47] I dont see a problem, the only people who do have a problem are old farts who were raised thinking that England was the only country in the world, or immature idiots who just havnt opened their eyes. Why learn to spell properly or use grammer if MS Word can do it all for you? Seems to me like you wasted much of your lives. I can see your point with all out 1337 5p3ak, but none of that has actually been mentioned in this thread. Alot of people have learned how to speak english through the internet and were taught through Acronyms and by shortening words, but you are probably ignorant of this fact because you refuse to step outside the box. I find it amusing how the poster blabbered on about all this, then later on wrote BTW Teh, pwn and woot are not english words, so you shouldnt get all uppity and scrawl through your Oxford english dictionary, they are feelings put into letters and belong to the internet. When I speak or write in other languages I probably make millions of mistakes and dont realise, Im just glad that other nationalities are too polite to keep pointing it out, what your doing now sickens me because your the pathetic ones and dont even realise it.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:05:00 - [48] "teh" is a feeling??? -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:07:00 - [49] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari "teh" is a feeling??? Its put a feeling across that means more than the
cpskatan	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:14:00 - [50] just because all UK players are forum h'' dosent mean everyone playing eve are English speaking. Aboute the leet speak.. i dont mind, i dont use it but i dont mind people using it. I just cant be botherd with stuff like that and i dont understand how you all can get so angry aboute it. I am old and i belive that the poaple getting so ***ed about this is the player that are around 18 years old and just think the are so grown up. I just see them as "kids".
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:20:00 - [51] Originally by: Tenacha Khan Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari "teh" is a feeling??? Its put a feeling across that means more than the "teh" is a misspelling of "the". "the" is just an article, there is no feeling attached to it...or at least there SHOULDN'T be... Anyway, I think you're missing the point of this thread. This isn't meant to bash people with a weak grasp of English. This is bashing people who deliberately avoid using proper English when they know better. No matter what language you grew up with, it uses some form of punctuation, so writing three pages without a period is inexcusable. You can't write leetspeak without being able to write the same thing in proper English, $0 741\|<!\|\\|6 1!\|<3 7\|-\|!$ is inexcusable. And I don't buy into the idea that all these people honestly think that "u", "ur", "r", "2", and other such bits of AOLspeak are real English words because they learned English on the Internet, so they're consciously doing it and that's inexcusable. Even if you learn English on the internet, it's not as if everything you read, or even a significant portion of it, refuses to write out "you", "are", and other full words. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:27:00 - [52] Originally by: cpskatan just because all UK players are forum h'' dosent mean everyone playing eve are English speaking. CCP made a rule: English only. If you can handle English, you're welcome to use the forums. If not, then you are, sadly, not welcome to use the forums. This has always been the rule. Originally by:* cpskatan I am old and i belive that the poaple getting so ****ed about this is the player that are around 18 years old and just think the are so grown up. I just see them as "kids". Holy crap, where did all of this "You're old!" "No you're old!" "You're a kid!" come from? Who CARES how old somebody is? I don't see people in terms of "young" or "old", I only see "moron" and "not a moron". -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:28:00 - [53] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Tenacha Khan Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari "teh" is a feeling??? Its put a feeling across that means more than the "teh" is a misspelling of "the". "the" is just an article, there is no feeling attached to it...or at least there SHOULDN'T be... Anyway, I think you're missing the point of this thread. This isn't meant to bash people with a weak grasp of English. This is bashing people who deliberately avoid using proper English when they know better. No matter what language you grew up with, it uses some form of punctuation, so writing three pages without a period is inexcusable. You can't write leetspeak without being able to write the same thing in proper English, $0 741\|<!\|\\|6 1!\|<3 7\|-\|!$ is inexcusable. And I don't buy into the idea that all these people honestly think that "u", "ur", "r", "2", and other such bits of AOLspeak are real English words because they learned English on the Internet, so they're consciously doing it and that's inexcusable. Even if you learn English on the internet, it's not as if everything you read, or even a significant portion of it, refuses to write out "you", "are", and other full words. Thats your opinion, I just think you are wrong, its not your fault that you are wrong, but there is something you can do about it
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:30:00 - [54] Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 04/02/2006 17:30:24 Originally by: Tenacha Khan Thats your opinion, I just think you are wrong, its not your fault that you are wrong, but there is something you can do about it Yes, there is, but explaining my logic and reason to you over and over again until you accept it will take too long. So no, I probably won't do anything about it. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:34:00 - [55] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 04/02/2006 17:30:24 Originally by: Tenacha Khan Thats your opinion, I just think you are wrong, its not your fault that you are wrong, but there is something you can do about it Yes, there is, but explaining my logic and reason to you over and over again until you accept it will take too long. So no, I probably won't do anything about it. There is nothing logical about what you say, your posting feelings you have about people who do not conform to your views. There have been idiots like you through out history. Your just single minded and ignorant of other people, that doesnt mean your stupid, just that you have alot to learn.
cpskatan	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:35:00 - [56] Edited by: cpskatan on 04/02/2006 17:35:16 Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: cpskatan just because all UK players are forum h'' dosent mean everyone playing eve are English speaking. CCP made a rule: English only. If you can handle English, you're welcome to use the forums. If not, then you are, sadly, not welcome to use the forums. This has always been the rule. Originally by:* cpskatan I am old and i belive that the poaple getting so ****ed about this is the player that are around 18 years old and just think the are so grown up. I just see them as "kids". Holy crap, where did all of this "You're old!" "No you're old!" "You're a kid!" come from? Who CARES how old somebody is? I don't see people in terms of "young" or "old", I only see "moron" and "not a moron". Kids use leet speak grown ups dont, if they do they are morons just like you stated and you should see poeple for what age there in then you see the irony when they try to be all that.
Dimitri Chandler	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:44:00 - [57] "From this day forth, let the forums overflow with the milk and honey of grammatically correct English," spake he, perusing the affray. "Forsooth, 'tis verily pugnacious," proclaimed his serf, lambasting the incivilities of youth. Thence, from that day forth, was the cup of ye olde English raised in toast to the forum leetspeakers, and text speak was banished to the hills. Would you prefer us to speak like that? -------------------------------------------------- LOSE CHUCK
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:47:00 - [58] Originally by: Dimitri Chandler "From this day forth, let the forums overflow with the milk and honey of grammatically correct English," spake he, perusing the affray. "Forsooth, 'tis verily pugnacious," proclaimed his serf, lambasting the incivilities of youth. Thence, from that day forth, was the cup of ye olde English raised in toast to the forum leetspeakers, and text speak was banished to the hills. Would you prefer us to speak like that? Reminds me of Everquest roleplaying forums
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:53:00 - [59] Originally by: Tenacha Khan Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Yes, there is, but explaining my logic and reason to you over and over again until you accept it will take too long. So no, I probably won't do anything about it. There is nothing logical about what you say, your posting feelings you have about people who do not conform to your views. There have been idiots like you through out history. Your just single minded and ignorant of other people, that doesnt mean your stupid, just that you have alot to learn. The italicized text is written for a purpose known as "humor". It should not be considered a serious argument or assertion. Furthermore, I WAS being logical in that I provide the reasoning behind my statements. Single-minded, maybe so, when I get ***ed about something I often persue it. Ignorant of other people? WHO am I ignorant of? People who don't speak English? No, I'm quite aware of them. As I've said, English a requirement of these forums. It's CCP's rule, not mine, so don't blame me if you don't like it. Or maybe I'm ignorant of this mythical population of people who learned English excusively from H0w 2 M4ul t3h 3ngli$h L4ngu4g3*, written by an author using the pen name "I_R_T3h_Ub3r_1337_D00d". -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 17:55:00 - [60] Originally by: Dimitri Chandler "From this day forth, let the forums overflow with the milk and honey of grammatically correct English," spake he, perusing the affray. "Forsooth, 'tis verily pugnacious," proclaimed his serf, lambasting the incivilities of youth. Thence, from that day forth, was the cup of ye olde English raised in toast to the forum leetspeakers, and text speak was banished to the hills. Would you prefer us to speak like that? That's not even using different grammar. Talking like that is simply a question of using archaic vocabulary. I don't CARE what vocabulary you use...I just want you to spell it with letters (all of them), not numbers or symbols, and use a period here or there. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Dimitri Chandler	Posted - 2006.02.04 18:07:00 - [61] nik, look at the amount of leet speak in your sig for starters. -------------------------------------------------- LOSE CHUCK
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 18:14:00 - [62] Originally by: Dimitri Chandler nik, look at the amount of leet speak in your sig for starters. "4tw btw". That is the only leetspeak in there, and Mebrithiel Ju'wien said it, not me. It's a quote, so even if I would LIKE it to have said "by the way", I'm not going to edit it. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.04 18:19:00 - [63] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Dimitri Chandler nik, look at the amount of leet speak in your sig for starters. "4tw btw". That is the only leetspeak in there, and Mebrithiel Ju'wien said it, not me. It's a quote, so even if I would LIKE it to have said "by the way", I'm not going to edit it. You have it in your signature, so it must not bother you that much. So why whine about it?
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2006.02.04 18:24:00 - [64] The worst part about it is that it is begenning to show up in actual games
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.04 18:27:00 - [65] Originally by: Tenacha Khan Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Dimitri Chandler nik, look at the amount of leet speak in your sig for starters. "4tw btw". That is the only leetspeak in there, and Mebrithiel Ju'wien said it, not me. It's a quote, so even if I would LIKE it to have said "by the way", I'm not going to edit it. You have it in your signature, so it must not bother you that much. So why whine about it? I use the quote because of its author and content. I would prefer that it were written differently, but as I said, I can't control that. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Ben Hump	Posted - 2006.02.04 18:36:00 - [66] Originally by: Relain Linday Edited by: Relain Linday on 04/02/2006 11:32:31 If I see one more person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keyboard! Flame on! can i have your stuff? May contain traces of irony "Yes Mister Tristan"
Lorelai Bak	Posted - 2006.02.04 19:09:00 - [67] Edited by: Lorelai Bak on 04/02/2006 19:09:30 I've got better things to do with my time than to fully and properly type out every damn sentence for no reason what so ever. I can type proper english just fine (except for a few random words), but why do it when I can be understood perfectly using abbrevations? FS, stupid alt :-\|
Ras Blumin	Posted - 2006.02.04 19:10:00 - [68] ^ Me. p - l - u - r My first vid
Hayzo	Posted - 2006.02.04 19:13:00 - [69] Edited by: Hayzo on 04/02/2006 19:13:31 Originally by: Lorelai Bak Edited by: Lorelai Bak on 04/02/2006 19:09:30 I've got better things to do with my time than to fully and properly type out every damn sentence for no reason what so ever. I can type proper english just fine (except for a few random words), but why do it when I can be understood perfectly using abbrevations? FS, stupid alt :-\| Shortening words or using things like ftw, btw, brb and so on isn't 1337speak. 1337speak requires you to go out of your way to type it out, and thus out of your way to make somebody lose blood through their eyes. ____________________ "Your safe Boundaries were once unknown frontiers" Join channel: TKI-Net
Ras Blumin	Posted - 2006.02.04 19:17:00 - [70] Originally by: Hayzo Shortening words or using things like ftw, btw, brb and so on isn't 1337speak. 1337speak requires you to go out of your way to type it out, and thus out of your way to make somebody lose blood through their eyes. Leet speak isn't the only topic at hand .. p - l - u - r My first vid
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.04 19:20:00 - [71] Originally by: Ras Blumin Originally by: Hayzo Shortening words or using things like ftw, btw, brb and so on isn't 1337speak. 1337speak requires you to go out of your way to type it out, and thus out of your way to make somebody lose blood through their eyes. Leet speak isn't the only topic at hand .. The op was calling shortening words leet speak. I dont really care if people use real leet speak, but maybe thats because not many people do
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.02.04 20:53:00 - [72] The internet has to many damm TLAs...deal with it. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Liisa	Posted - 2006.02.04 21:16:00 - [73] The use of "u" or "r" can make reading a post very annoying for me. Many of you might believe that it is normal and feel a need to shorten word by two letters because of a great time constraint that you must have. I agree on the other hand that there are people that have problems with the english language. These people, when they post, normally have a completely different style to those who simply are too lazy to hit the backspace button on their keyboard when they mis-type something. As for the belief that MS Word will catch all errors done by the person typing, I would suggest that everybody forget this idea very quickly. It only leads to people making mistakes and then not rereading their work and finding the mistakes, being firm in their belief that all mistakes have been found by the program.
M3ta7h3ad	Posted - 2006.02.04 21:32:00 - [74] Originally by: Shinnen Edited by: Shinnen on 04/02/2006 12:39:21 What **es me off is Originally by:** "Nubs" HAC's BS's Gamer's Griefer's Leet's Pwn's LEARN HOW TO USE AN APOSTROPHE NUBS!!!!!! Actually Apostrophes are only used to denote OWNERSHIP, not Plurality. In most cases the posters are perfectly correct in leaving the apostrophe out. Nub. ----- Memorable Quotes <Jarltan Dimtras> OH MY GOD MY GF IS A DUDE
Hayzo	Posted - 2006.02.04 22:14:00 - [75] Originally by: M3ta7h3ad Originally by: Shinnen Edited by: Shinnen on 04/02/2006 12:39:21 What **es me off is Originally by:** "Nubs" HAC's BS's Gamer's Griefer's Leet's Pwn's LEARN HOW TO USE AN APOSTROPHE NUBS!!!!!! Actually Apostrophes are only used to denote OWNERSHIP, not Plurality. In most cases the posters are perfectly correct in leaving the apostrophe out. Nub. Exactly his point. Nub. ____________________ "Your safe Boundaries were once unknown frontiers" Join channel: TKI-Net
Dumus	Posted - 2006.02.04 22:29:00 - [76] Edited by: Dumus on 04/02/2006 22:29:02
Relain Linday	Posted - 2006.02.04 22:30:00 - [77] Edited by: Relain Linday on 04/02/2006 22:34:30 I am amazed at some peoples misinterpretation of my original post so let me try to explain nice and clearly. I was not, or ever would; complaining about the quality of grammar or someone's spelling errors. God knows I do make a few myself. It was a complaint about, peepul makin up sillie writing and 1337 speaking. There is nothing wrong with abbreviations. So BTW, FTW, ROTFLMAO and BRB etc... are ok as they are understood abbreviations. An abbreviation is a shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form. Silly 1337 words are not easily understood and just show immaturity and stupidity. The fact that I had so many errors (after the ironical first sentence, which some thought was real) was, surely proof of what I say. That is all. Move along, there is nothing to see here.....
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.02.04 22:37:00 - [78] What a stinking heap of self important pomposity this thread is. .... Real men use blasters
Snake Jankins	Posted - 2006.02.04 23:13:00 - [79] Edited by: Snake Jankins on 04/02/2006 23:12:53 Well, English is not my native language, so if you don't like my grammar or spelling, feel free to correct me. Then I might avoid that mistake in the future. Otherwise I don't care. Be happy that German isn't the language of the internet. ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'
Gallell	Posted - 2006.02.04 23:40:00 - [80] The only way to really get all the "Internet-chat-language" cured is to make rules on how it should be written. Just like Morse code or sign language which AFAIK (= as far as I know) is not a specific country's language. But every time I see someone use so called "leet speak" I picture the person saying it to be joking. Just like when a 30 year old guy sounds like a little five year old, "my daddy beat your daddy", when he is fooling around. But sadly more and more people are using "leet speak" as an actual language, which just proofs that humans are lazy. Post Scriptum And if you are using the Opera web browser you can install a-spell and have any text area spell-checked before you click on Send/Post.
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.04 23:52:00 - [81] Originally by: Relain Linday Edited by: Relain Linday on 04/02/2006 22:34:30 I am amazed at some peoples misinterpretation of my original post so let me try to explain nice and clearly. I was not, or ever would; complaining about the quality of grammar or someone's spelling errors. God knows I do make a few myself. It was a complaint about, peepul makin up sillie writing and 1337 speaking. There is nothing wrong with abbreviations. So BTW, FTW, ROTFLMAO and BRB etc... are ok as they are understood abbreviations. An abbreviation is a shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form. Silly 1337 words are not easily understood and just show immaturity and stupidity. The fact that I had so many errors (after the ironical first sentence, which some thought was real) was, surely proof of what I say. That is all. Move along, there is nothing to see here..... What you say is silly writing is people typing phoneticaly, and if you were taught how to read properly you probably wouldnt even skip a beat at reading it. I agree that over used leetspeak is annoying, because as someone said, it is intentional and while it is pretty amusing in small doses, loads of it could be annoying. And by leet speak I mean numbers and symbols instead of letters. All other european languages pronounce letters differently, so saying sillie instead of silly makes more sense to other people. You state that you do not care about peoples grammer or spelling errors, but you then state that they are sillie peepul for doing so. You really need to get a grip and learn some empathy, try learning to speak another language and then writing on their forums.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.05 00:29:00 - [82] Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 05/02/2006 00:29:23 Look, let's clarify everything here. Nobody is complaining about people who legitimately have a problem with English. I tried to learn Spanish once. And I absolutely suck at it. My Spanish would probably make a native speaker's brain hurt, at best. But that means: (A) I'm not going out of my way to mangle the language farther. "0l4 $3n0r Kh4n"? Hell no! (B) I'm NOT going to post on a Spanish-only forum. I refuse to communicate in a language where I can't get my point across clearly and concisely. This is a complaint about people who CAN use perfectly English, but purposely don't. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Vendrin	Posted - 2006.02.05 00:38:00 - [83] Edited by: Vendrin on 05/02/2006 00:39:25 Originally by: Dimitri Chandler "From this day forth, let the forums overflow with the milk and honey of grammatically correct English," spake he, perusing the affray. "Forsooth, 'tis verily pugnacious," proclaimed his serf, lambasting the incivilities of youth. Thence, from that day forth, was the cup of ye olde English raised in toast to the forum leetspeakers, and text speak was banished to the hills. Would you prefer us to speak like that? It'd be far less annoying and far more amusing. Pugnacious... heh. Funny word. Need help in Caldari Space? Join channel CCDF to give or recieve it.
Mywad	Posted - 2006.02.05 01:12:00 - [84] It amuses me how many people dont correctly read the original post in forums and rant about things that where not the main issue. Nobody complained about people with poor english or typing errors, the 1st post was regarding the use of numbers instead of letters which i agree is awful to read. Nobody wants to see word perfect english or grammar/punctuation just something you can at least understand. I left school with no qualfications at all but amazingly i can write at least half decently, yes some spelling mistakes and punctuation errors but at least people can read it, whatever language/country it is in makes no difference, still think 99% of people dont have a clue what the stuff with numbers and letters says when its written. and i agree with original post that it annoying. "NEXT" P.S dont think age has anything to do with it. probably annoying to equal amounts of young and old people. Ill let you all be the judge of how old i am
Liisa	Posted - 2006.02.05 01:18:00 - [85] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari This is a complaint about people who CAN use perfectly English, but purposely don't. I agree with this statement completely. There is a large difference between non-native speakers and people who have had their whole schooling in english and refuse to write proper english because they are too lazy. And yes, I know how it is to try and learn more than one language. I speak and write 3 languages and the last (french) causes me great difficulty when I write it, hence I have somebody else read everything I write in french before I it officially leaves my desk.
Slaveabuser	Posted - 2006.02.05 01:22:00 - [86] Originally by: Relain Linday Edited by: Relain Linday on 04/02/2006 11:32:31 I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text and l337. Please, most of us here I believe are adults. Why must we tolorate silly schoolboy writing and missing letters. If I see one more person spelling "the" teh, my head will explode and leave a sticky blood pool all over my keyboard! Flame on! Signed. Shhh!I'm busy thinking about complicated things you wont understand.
Ishquar Teh'Sainte	Posted - 2006.02.05 01:37:00 - [87] Well for you it's awful to read, because you're not used to ... in someways leetspeak becomes more graphical than the "normal" style of writing. I wouldn't say 1337 or any other form of e-slang .. or slang per-se is a degeneration of a certain language - it's in someways a pluralistic and at the same time an exlusive kind of communication. There are no strict rules how a sentence in 1337 has to look like - and this means the actual appearance of 1337 depends on the human beeing who speaks/writes ... it's much more personal than write under the guideance of a dictionary. This means it might be easier to express yourself - but it also means that there's always the problem that you would be misunderstood. 1337 and the rest of such "new languages"/slangs is nothing bad - it's only different. Language is never good or bad - you understand it or not ... that's all about communication - if you can't understand what the others said .. it's primary NOT your problem but theirs (though secondary it could become a problem for you too). Language is nothing dead, that never changes - even the symbols of a language (letters, runes etc.) are not absolute - they are changing too ... the times of the "alphabetical monopoly" are over, now we are in the state of the "turing universe" - the media (especially the world wide web) catalyze our perceptions of languages, contexts and symbols. Theres no need for strict rules how a text or even a sentence has to look like - it's all about the intentions the writer want to deliver to the reader ... if a language is inprobriate for it's use it will die - and if it's not dying, well, then the language isn't useless. _________________________________________ waiting for signature... []
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.02.05 01:56:00 - [88] Originally by: Mywad It amuses me how many people dont correctly read the original post in forums and rant about things that where not the main issue. Nobody complained about people with poor english or typing errors Now from the original post Quote: I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text That was the part of the ops post I was replying to. I know many people whos written English is terrible, but readable. Are they not meant to post on the public forums or speak ingame for fear of being ridiculed by people such as the op?
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.05 02:02:00 - [89] Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte ... in someways leetspeak becomes more graphical than the "normal" style of writing. How is leetspeak "graphical"? It's not like you're using pictograms, as ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics did. All you're doing is substituting other, similar-looking characters for the correct characters. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Relain Linday	Posted - 2006.02.05 02:08:00 - [90] Originally by: Tenacha Khan Originally by: Mywad It amuses me how many people dont correctly read the original post in forums and rant about things that where not the main issue. Nobody complained about people with poor english or typing errors Now from the original post Quote: I m sik of peeps nt writing ther sentencis out inproper inglish and you sing silly text That was the part of the ops post I was replying to. I know many people whos written English is terrible, but readable. Are they not meant to post on the public forums or speak ingame for fear of being ridiculed by people such as the op? You are misreading my intentions. At no point did I refer to people making grammatical errors. The "spirit" of the post was a reference to the prevalence of Leet speak and lazy English speakers, thinking they are somehow witty or clever to rite in a lazee and sillie whey. It was nothing to do with someone making a mistake, or not putting a comma in, or any other normal errors. Nanoo nanoo
Galk	Posted - 2006.02.05 02:11:00 - [91] Originally by: Dark Shikari I counted 14 errors in your post. Now thats old skool elite... Circa 1999 Ohh and btw, welcome to the interweb Some things just make you laugh, go with it, or say nothing, it's a good call. Personaly i love some of it, i detest the rest. HAIL CHUCK ______ Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free. We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.05 02:15:00 - [92] Originally by: Galk HAIL CHUCK All hail the Chuck! -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler
Xanthia DiMakir	Posted - 2006.03.03 09:40:00 - [93] Originally by: EXZODIER now if your an old git who wants to type to adults in correct english i suggest u go find a chat room or forum where they took abut the contents of the finacial times or the contents of a packet of corn flakes WE the gamers are here and we will not change for old people and yes i know my spelling is bad and yes english is my 1st launguage and NO I DONT CARE ! Deal with it When it comes time to submit a resume / CV for a 50,000 to 100,000 per annum job, you may change your tune. At least you will if you're smart.
Xanthia DiMakir	Posted - 2006.03.03 09:47:00 - [94] Originally by: EXZODIER now if your an old git who wants to type to adults in correct english i suggest u go find a chat room or forum where they took abut the contents of the finacial times or the contents of a packet of corn flakes WE the gamers are here and we will not change for old people and yes i know my spelling is bad and yes english is my 1st launguage and NO I DONT CARE ! Deal with it You know, you'd have a point there except for one slight problem. If you take the people in this thread as a reasonable sampling of players in the game, then you are actually part of a rather small minority.
Sherkaner	Posted - 2006.03.03 09:50:00 - [95] Locked (trolling) forum rules \| [email protected]

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