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Atamisk
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:35:00 -
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I know BE atracts alot of flames but I just wanted to add in something to the whole news post. Im obviously an alt. Im an alt not because I fear burn eden and all their mighty power. I fear reprecussiouns for starting what will most likly be a flame fest (unless you can all keep it civil). ANYWAYS... onto the topic.
I read the news post on Galnet with great intrest. Burn Edens tactics have always been cowerdly, yes. But as everyone knows and admits... in the general scheme of killing a target very effective. Everyone knows how loading up on stabs is pretty lame. But I just wanted to point something else out I find even worse.
I fought vs BE on several occasions. Many many times we had them all lined up with a covops and we warp. They 'Luckily' warp away in the same instant. Then it happens 4 more times. Obviously it didnt take us too long to figure it out. Not only does BE use a cheap in game tactic... they HAVE to infiltrate communications (read sneak onto TS server) and listen in to survive. Many a kill vs them would hae been made had they not been doing this. I just find this to be the lowest of the low. It didnt take us too long to figure out how to keep them from knowing anyways. By keeping the cov ops pilot and Gang commander on a wisper bind we were able to get a few kills. And when we did, they accused of exploiting and cheating. Nice...
So whats the feeling of my fellow pod pilots on this? Does it make you look down on them? Does it make you say "sucks for you?" Have you fought them and noticed the same thing? What say you?
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Rukaz
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:39:00 -
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Scanner is a cool tool mate.
Ruk
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:40:00 -
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You are wrong. Well, I'm sure they have spies.
But; They never ever fight without their covert ops around they had a covert ops watching you, and when you align towards them it's time for them to move.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin. Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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Arnold Swartzenegger
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Atamisk Im obviously an alt. Im an alt not because I fear burn eden and all their mighty power. I fear reprecussiouns for starting what will most likly be a flame fest
In that case who is your main?
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:48:00 -
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I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rukaz Scanner is a cool tool mate.
Ruk
Yep pretty much. We do use spies, but rarely if ever listen in on TS during actual fights. We simply don't have anyone to spare.
We did go on ASCN ts once while they were camping us but we were logged off at the time.
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Camador
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:53:00 -
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*COUGH*ASCNALT*COUGH* ______________________________
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k starwind
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:00:00 -
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how can you say you do not use spies when everyone knows that is not the truth
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: k starwind how can you say you do not use spies when everyone knows that is not the truth
Originally by: Shin Ra We do use spies

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Cowboy
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
  
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Considering it takes at least -6 to hold one of you in place, I dont see any problems with that one
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
  
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
This thread wasn't supposed to be about Bob 
On the other hand you cannot blame them if they don't wish to fight.
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Camador
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:13:00 -
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Literacy 4tw. or in ASCNs case, ftl. ______________________________
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: SATAN
  
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
This thread wasn't supposed to be about Bob 
On the other hand you cannot blame them if they don't wish to fight.
My vagabond doesn't have enough medslots to hold you down, I need a friend to help me :( Don't speak english. ebay.com...
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farsycal
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: farsycal on 04/02/2006 18:27:39 off topic: pugwashh uberest fanboy of bob
on topic: if you cant beat them, dont join them. find a way. and arnolds post about not engaging is teh suck, he was in AOI afterall so must have learned his tactics there before joining BE
edit: oops not armold, got my posts mixed up but you get the idea
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Redblade
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
4 tacklers per BE ship to even get a fight is conciderd standard so i can't se any problems with those numbers.
U might think stabs is an ok way to pvp but don't come here whining about numbers when someone brings the tacklers to actualy hold u down.
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sir truscott
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
  
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
um I dont understand your respones, you use a tactic most arnt equiped to respond to, then you get angry when they use a tactic your cant respond to and call them coward. 
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Camador
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Bizarre
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: SATAN
  
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
This thread wasn't supposed to be about Bob 
On the other hand you cannot blame them if they don't wish to fight.
My vagabond doesn't have enough medslots to hold you down, I need a friend to help me :(
Thats funny, mine does. Maybe you should get a refund? ______________________________
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bizarre My vagabond doesn't have enough medslots to hold you down, I need a friend to help me :(
Thats strange, mine does.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:44:00 -
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Quote: Does it make you look down on them?
nothing could make me think worse of them than i do now...not for their tactics ingame..if it works use it...more for their {isert insult over mental stat} forum antics. _____
"When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept |

Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:53:00 -
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Bizarre do try to see the lighter side of things every now and then.
Burn Eden have shown their tactics to be very effective. Why are their tactics not popular? Because they take the time and dedication not many are prepared to put into a game.
I don't see how UDIE tactics are nearly as bad as other corps that move people into position a few at a time logoff, then all log in at once. (All logging out when outnumbered is a different matter entirely).
The use of covert ops and WCS is part of the game after all.
The OP was complaining about spies. I would have to agree if somebody was using a spy on TS with an enemy it is very wrong.
I would same the same for alt spies in enemy corporations and if there was a mechanism for policing such actions then CCP might take a very different view.
Thus far CCP policies regarding corp theft spying logon traps etc seem to be very pragmatic. They cannot effectively police them so they don't even attempt to.
This doesn't mean that players should go ahead and comit these acts simply because they can. You still have to consider is this honourable?
The use of 'dishonourable' mods and tactics within the game is laughable when compared to using out of game tactics such as alt spying and logon logoff.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.04 19:45:00 -
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"This thread wasn't supposed to be about Bob "
Funny, because i don't see anyone but you bring that name here... if it's supposed to be about BE, leave it at that.
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.04 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Redblade
Originally by: SATAN
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
4 tacklers per BE ship to even get a fight is conciderd standard so i can't se any problems with those numbers.
U might think stabs is an ok way to pvp but don't come here whining about numbers when someone brings the tacklers to actualy hold u down.
Interesting you should say that.
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Then one of you had the nerve to say on the forums you "ALMOST" killed me.

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Thrak
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Posted - 2006.02.04 19:49:00 -
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Wow, that sounds like it really happened. No, really.
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Arnold Swartzenegger
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: farsycal Edited by: farsycal on 04/02/2006 18:27:39 off topic: pugwashh uberest fanboy of bob
on topic: if you cant beat them, dont join them. find a way. and arnolds post about not engaging is teh suck, he was in AOI afterall so must have learned his tactics there before joining BE
edit: oops not armold, got my posts mixed up but you get the idea
I learned what NOT to do from AOI 
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Redblade
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Redblade
Originally by: SATAN
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
4 tacklers per BE ship to even get a fight is conciderd standard so i can't se any problems with those numbers.
U might think stabs is an ok way to pvp but don't come here whining about numbers when someone brings the tacklers to actualy hold u down.
Interesting you should say that.
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Then one of you had the nerve to say on the forums you "ALMOST" killed me.

Think u are flattering your self a weee bit to much, they probably got bored trying to catch u wich usualy happens.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Attention whoring is one thing; but must you guys insist on talking such utter b****x, and making yourselves look even more daft?
You expect the eve community to believe that 40 BoB ships, including 20bs, RAN, from 8 BE BS?  ---
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Zimiel
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:45:00 -
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Remember that sweet time when you(BE) got totally locked to the 2-rsc7 system for 1 day+? You must¦ve felt yourselves really small and worthless back then while waiting for an opporturnity to flee. If I remember correctly you had to ask some friends from north to bust you thru. I¦m sure you paid for their service with the standard G/IRON currency. (Use your imagination to determine what kind of currency we are talking about) 
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Ryx Bratsilaken
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:58:00 -
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oot: these arent the only guys that ***** stabs, if you ever come across 'Flasman servives' you will find these guys ***** stabs aswell 
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.04 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Shin Ra on 04/02/2006 21:21:42
Originally by: Zimiel Remember that sweet time when you(BE) got totally locked to the 2-rsc7 system for 1 day+? You must¦ve felt yourselves really small and worthless back then while waiting for an opporturnity to flee. If I remember correctly you had to ask some friends from north to bust you thru. I¦m sure you paid for their service with the standard G/IRON currency. (Use your imagination to determine what kind of currency we are talking about) 
LOL. It was 30 hours actually. And it was TOTALLY WORTH it to kill ALL the ASCN ships who were camping us as they were in their own bubbles. Noobs.
" You must¦ve felt yourselves really small and worthless"
Who talks like that? Seriously, you guys never tried anything like that again after we killed the camp. I remember reading the ASCN forums. 3 pages saying :"OMG LOL we got em, they will have to self destructy etc". Then 1 post at the end says: "UM guys they got out and killed 1 or 2 of us". More like 10 or 20, but losses don't matter to ASCN do they? So long as you can mine when we are asleep its all cool.
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TURBOman
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Posted - 2006.02.04 21:53:00 -
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Tbh there's to many "burn eden crys" threads on this forums. So few members in your corp and u all got big mouths. Keep it down, nobody is intrested :/
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