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Atamisk
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:35:00 -
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I know BE atracts alot of flames but I just wanted to add in something to the whole news post. Im obviously an alt. Im an alt not because I fear burn eden and all their mighty power. I fear reprecussiouns for starting what will most likly be a flame fest (unless you can all keep it civil). ANYWAYS... onto the topic.
I read the news post on Galnet with great intrest. Burn Edens tactics have always been cowerdly, yes. But as everyone knows and admits... in the general scheme of killing a target very effective. Everyone knows how loading up on stabs is pretty lame. But I just wanted to point something else out I find even worse.
I fought vs BE on several occasions. Many many times we had them all lined up with a covops and we warp. They 'Luckily' warp away in the same instant. Then it happens 4 more times. Obviously it didnt take us too long to figure it out. Not only does BE use a cheap in game tactic... they HAVE to infiltrate communications (read sneak onto TS server) and listen in to survive. Many a kill vs them would hae been made had they not been doing this. I just find this to be the lowest of the low. It didnt take us too long to figure out how to keep them from knowing anyways. By keeping the cov ops pilot and Gang commander on a wisper bind we were able to get a few kills. And when we did, they accused of exploiting and cheating. Nice...
So whats the feeling of my fellow pod pilots on this? Does it make you look down on them? Does it make you say "sucks for you?" Have you fought them and noticed the same thing? What say you?
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Rukaz
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:39:00 -
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Scanner is a cool tool mate.
Ruk
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:40:00 -
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You are wrong.
Well, I'm sure they have spies.
But;
They never ever fight without their covert ops around  they had a covert ops watching you, and when you align towards them it's time for them to move.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
Distributor of pain. Your loss becomes my gain...
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Arnold Swartzenegger
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Atamisk
Im obviously an alt. Im an alt not because I fear burn eden and all their mighty power. I fear reprecussiouns for starting what will most likly be a flame fest
In that case who is your main?
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:48:00 -
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I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rukaz
Scanner is a cool tool mate.
Ruk
Yep pretty much. We do use spies, but rarely if ever listen in on TS during actual fights. We simply don't have anyone to spare.
We did go on ASCN ts once while they were camping us but we were logged off at the time.
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Camador
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:53:00 -
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*COUGH*ASCNALT*COUGH*
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k starwind
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:00:00 -
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how can you say you do not use spies when everyone knows that is not the truth
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: k starwind
how can you say you do not use spies when everyone knows that is not the truth
Originally by: Shin Ra
We do use spies
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Considering it takes at least -6 to hold one of you in place, I dont see any problems with that one
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
This thread wasn't supposed to be about Bob
On the other hand you cannot blame them if they don't wish to fight.
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Camador
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:13:00 -
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Literacy 4tw. or in ASCNs case, ftl.
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: SATAN
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
This thread wasn't supposed to be about Bob
On the other hand you cannot blame them if they don't wish to fight.
My vagabond doesn't have enough medslots to hold you down, I need a friend to help me :(
Don't speak english. ebay.com...
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farsycal
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: farsycal on 04/02/2006 18:27:39
off topic: pugwashh uberest fanboy of bob
on topic: if you cant beat them, dont join them. find a way. and arnolds post about not engaging is teh suck, he was in AOI afterall so must have learned his tactics there before joining BE
edit: oops not armold, got my posts mixed up  but you get the idea
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Redblade
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
4 tacklers per BE ship to even get a fight is conciderd standard so i can't se any problems with those numbers.
U might think stabs is an ok way to pvp but don't come here whining about numbers when someone brings the tacklers to actualy hold u down.
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sir truscott
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
um I dont understand your respones, you use a tactic most arnt equiped to respond to, then you get angry when they
use a tactic your cant respond to and call them coward.
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Camador
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Bizarre
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: SATAN
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
This thread wasn't supposed to be about Bob
On the other hand you cannot blame them if they don't wish to fight.
My vagabond doesn't have enough medslots to hold you down, I need a friend to help me :(
Thats funny, mine does. Maybe you should get a refund?
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bizarre
My vagabond doesn't have enough medslots to hold you down, I need a friend to help me :(
Thats strange, mine does.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:44:00 -
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Does it make you look down on them?
nothing could make me think worse of them than i do now...not for their tactics ingame..if it works use it...more for their {isert insult over mental stat} forum antics.
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:53:00 -
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Bizarre do try to see the lighter side of things every now and then.
Burn Eden have shown their tactics to be very effective.
Why are their tactics not popular? Because they take the time and dedication not many are prepared to put into a game.
I don't see how UDIE tactics are nearly as bad as other corps that move people into position a few at a time logoff, then all log in at once. (All logging out when outnumbered is a different matter entirely).
The use of covert ops and WCS is part of the game after all.
The OP was complaining about spies. I would have to agree if somebody was using a spy on TS with an enemy it is very wrong.
I would same the same for alt spies in enemy corporations and if there was a mechanism for policing such actions then CCP might take a very different view.
Thus far CCP policies regarding corp theft spying logon traps etc seem to be very pragmatic. They cannot effectively police them so they don't even attempt to.
This doesn't mean that players should go ahead and comit these acts simply because they can. You still have to consider is this honourable?
The use of 'dishonourable' mods and tactics within the game is laughable when compared to using out of game tactics such as alt spying and logon logoff.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.04 19:45:00 -
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"This thread wasn't supposed to be about Bob "
Funny, because i don't see anyone but you bring that name here... if it's supposed to be about BE, leave it at that.
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.04 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Redblade
Originally by: SATAN
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
4 tacklers per BE ship to even get a fight is conciderd standard so i can't se any problems with those numbers.
U might think stabs is an ok way to pvp but don't come here whining about numbers when someone brings the tacklers to actualy hold u down.
Interesting you should say that.
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Then one of you had the nerve to say on the forums you "ALMOST" killed me.
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Thrak
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Posted - 2006.02.04 19:49:00 -
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Wow, that sounds like it really happened. No, really.
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Arnold Swartzenegger
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: farsycal
Edited by: farsycal on 04/02/2006 18:27:39
off topic: pugwashh uberest fanboy of bob
on topic: if you cant beat them, dont join them. find a way. and arnolds post about not engaging is teh suck, he was in AOI afterall so must have learned his tactics there before joining BE
edit: oops not armold, got my posts mixed up but you get the idea
I learned what NOT to do from AOI 
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Redblade
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Redblade
Originally by: SATAN
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
4 tacklers per BE ship to even get a fight is conciderd standard so i can't se any problems with those numbers.
U might think stabs is an ok way to pvp but don't come here whining about numbers when someone brings the tacklers to actualy hold u down.
Interesting you should say that.
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Then one of you had the nerve to say on the forums you "ALMOST" killed me.
Think u are flattering your self a weee bit to much, they probably got bored trying to catch u wich usualy happens.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Attention whoring is one thing; but must you guys insist on talking such utter b****x, and making yourselves look even more daft?
You expect the eve community to believe that 40 BoB ships, including 20bs, RAN, from 8 BE BS? 
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Zimiel
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:45:00 -
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Remember that sweet time when you(BE) got totally locked to the 2-rsc7 system for 1 day+? You must¦ve felt yourselves really small and worthless back then while waiting for an opporturnity to flee. If I remember correctly you had to ask some friends from north to bust you thru. I¦m sure you paid for their service with the standard G/IRON currency. (Use your imagination to determine what kind of currency we are talking about) 
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Ryx Bratsilaken
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Posted - 2006.02.04 20:58:00 -
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oot: these arent the only guys that ***** stabs, if you ever come across 'Flasman servives' you will find these guys ***** stabs aswell 
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.04 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Shin Ra on 04/02/2006 21:21:42
Originally by: Zimiel
Remember that sweet time when you(BE) got totally locked to the 2-rsc7 system for 1 day+? You must¦ve felt yourselves really small and worthless back then while waiting for an opporturnity to flee. If I remember correctly you had to ask some friends from north to bust you thru. I¦m sure you paid for their service with the standard G/IRON currency. (Use your imagination to determine what kind of currency we are talking about)
LOL. It was 30 hours actually. And it was TOTALLY WORTH it to kill ALL the ASCN ships who were camping us as they were in their own bubbles. Noobs.
" You must¦ve felt yourselves really small and worthless"
Who talks like that? Seriously, you guys never tried anything like that again after we killed the camp. I remember reading the ASCN forums. 3 pages saying :"OMG LOL we got em, they will have to self destructy etc". Then 1 post at the end says: "UM guys they got out and killed 1 or 2 of us". More like 10 or 20, but losses don't matter to ASCN do they? So long as you can mine when we are asleep its all cool.
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TURBOman
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Posted - 2006.02.04 21:53:00 -
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Tbh there's to many "burn eden crys" threads on this forums. So few members in your corp and u all got big mouths. Keep it down, nobody is intrested :/
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.04 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: TURBOman
nobody is intrested :/
Except of course ISD.
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Zimiel
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Posted - 2006.02.04 22:50:00 -
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You missed the point: You were not able to do ANYTHING without outside help. Wasn¦t there when you got out, my TZ effectively keeps me out of "interesting" situations.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2006.02.04 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Atamisk
I know BE atracts alot of flames but I just wanted to add in something to the whole news post. Im obviously an alt. Im an alt not because I fear burn eden and all their mighty power. I fear reprecussiouns for starting what will most likly be a flame fest (unless you can all keep it civil).
you're obviously somebody who fears what his commanding officers would do if he was posting with his main
Coward. I've never posted with an alt even when I knew it would get the people over me extremly angry.
So yeah, you are obviously an ASCN alt yes. You're prolly not even authorized to post something like that, thus prolly violating orders and not even ready to assume the consequences of your opinion.
Now, lemme explain you something. Using spies = clever.
Not using spies = stupid.
Intel is the key to victory. If you know what your enemy plans to do, if you know what he thinks, how he's gonna react, then you can anticipate him and eventually kill him.
A spy is a lot of work. You gotta put a lot of love into your spy
Only the result matters.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Quaren
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Posted - 2006.02.05 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Quaren on 05/02/2006 00:00:32
These BE threads need to stop... everyone hates them... we all know it... we don't need to be reminded...
Why do we hate them?
Because:
BE are very very good at what they do. They are good pvpers (Shin Ra proved that by winning the pvp tourny at the fanfest). They are very good at using covert ops. They work very well together. They hardly ever make mistakes.
Then there is the case with the WCS and dampeners(pre rmr). This ****es people off but you could live with it if it wasn't for the tactics BE use while flying these ships.
They have one goal and that is to make your EVE experience as boring as possible... I remember when they were in my home system for a few days and they left 1 covert ops alt online cloaked in space for hours and you couldn't do anything cause you didn't know if they were active and ready to log on mains or not.
Its not only that they make the game boring for you but that it is their plan all along and they enjoy ruining it for others.
Another thing that irritates me about the hole thing is that I know that if there wasn't some kind of "morality" that most people have in this game alot of others would fly just like BE do and then CCP would be forced to nerf the BE tactic because they would loose every pvper in the game and Noone would play EVE anymore.
there no more need to say anything on the matter
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Guybrush Treepwood
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Posted - 2006.02.05 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: Guybrush Treepwood on 05/02/2006 00:31:18
Originally by: Quaren
These BE threads need to stop...
they enjoy ruining it for others.
Agree, not going to post to a BE thread again. And they thrive on making others miserable.
Originally by: Quaren
if there wasn't some kind of "morality" that most people have in this game alot of others would fly just like BE do
Thank god for that. I would not play this game if more then 1% of players had the "morality" of the BE lot.
Now let all BE threads die.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.02.05 00:50:00 -
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Reminds me back when RMR was deployed and BE spammed the forums and quit eve because remote sensor dampers where broken.
yaa realy high skilled uber pvpers....
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.05 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: turnschuh
Reminds me back when RMR was deployed and BE spammed the forums and quit eve because remote sensor dampers where broken.
yaa realy high skilled uber pvpers....
Quit eve?
When was this?
You may want to check out our kill forums.
And btw sensor damps are still not fixed...
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.05 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Guybrush Treepwood
Edited by: Guybrush Treepwood on 05/02/2006 00:31:18
Originally by: Quaren
These BE threads need to stop...
they enjoy ruining it for others.
Agree, not going to post to a BE thread again. And they thrive on making others miserable.
Originally by: Quaren
if there wasn't some kind of "morality" that most people have in this game alot of others would fly just like BE do
Thank god for that. I would not play this game if more then 1% of players had the "morality" of the BE lot.
Now let all BE threads die.
Yes we do, are you having fun yet?
BTW we did not even start this thread.
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2006.02.05 05:55:00 -
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my only problem with the news article is that it took 3 days to actually put up which pretty much invalidated some of my comments (the part about you guys being locked down).
Other than that, I can't really complain about it as it took opinions both from their lead forum ho and people who have been on the other side of BE. The full transcript of my side of the interview can be found through the link in my sig.
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Originally by: Seleene
I maintain that OZ is evil and have nothing further to add.
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.05 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Omber Zombie
my only problem with the news article is that it took 3 days to actually put up which pretty much invalidated some of my comments (the part about you guys being locked down).
Other than that, I can't really complain about it as it took opinions both from their lead forum ho and people who have been on the other side of BE. The full transcript of my side of the interview can be found through the link in my sig.
Unfortunate you feel that way Omber,
The last person in UDIE they SHOULD have interviewed was thedragoon. His reply's were NOT the views of most UDIE members.
No alliance leader in his right mind would ever admit that a 10 man corp is putting a hurt on them, and expecting them to say anything but "they are insignimifact" is un realistic.
Bottom line is we are here to kill, kill, and kill again. That is the goal everywhere we move to. If in the process we can achieve anything else then great. But the number 1 priority is to get kill mails and loot.
Anything else is secondary.
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.02.05 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Interesting you should say that.
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Then one of you had the nerve to say on the forums you "ALMOST" killed me.
Now now, throwing random numbers around doesn't make you cool.
Burn Eden likes to play the game on easy mode. Burn Eden goes to a target rich environment and lives on the easy kills, the unexperienced. When the easy targets are gone, or if they gained some experience and BE no longer gets the kills, BE gets bored and leave. All in all they have very little impact.
The impact they do have is caused by their posts every other day on this forum, and that is only because some people take it serious.
There are alot more PvP corporations out there that do like a challenge and take on other experienced players and deserve more to be in the spotlight.
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Yeux Gris
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Posted - 2006.02.05 07:11:00 -
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TheDragoon explained that Burn Eden had used these tactics to successfully ôfight every major alliance in EVE.ö This most recently included Firmus Ixion, Ascendant Frontier, and The Big Blue. ôNot
is that why they let their war dec fall short on payment or not pay at all on war deccing tbb?
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.05 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: SATAN
Interesting you should say that.
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Then one of you had the nerve to say on the forums you "ALMOST" killed me.
Now now, throwing random numbers around doesn't make you cool.
Burn Eden likes to play the game on easy mode. Burn Eden goes to a target rich environment and lives on the easy kills, the unexperienced. When the easy targets are gone, or if they gained some experience and BE no longer gets the kills, BE gets bored and leave. All in all they have very little impact.
The impact they do have is caused by their posts every other day on this forum, and that is only because some people take it serious.
There are alot more PvP corporations out there that do like a challenge and take on other experienced players and deserve more to be in the spotlight.
Burn Eden is probably the most overrated PvP corporation in the game.
Are you still bitter about constantly having to run away from my crow in the old days?
You were actualy in the middle of the B(l)oB when we came up to visit you, but instead of being the big bad mofo everyone thinks you are you just gladly sat in the middle of 40 of your closest friends.
Your days of glory ended a long time ago, right around the time when all the exploits moo used ceased to exhist. Now all you are good at is flying around in a gang of 40+ ganking a traveler.
O and napping anyone that can pose a threat to you.
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.05 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Yeux Gris
Quote:
TheDragoon explained that Burn Eden had used these tactics to successfully ôfight every major alliance in EVE.ö This most recently included Firmus Ixion, Ascendant Frontier, and The Big Blue. ôNot
is that why they let their war dec fall short on payment or not pay at all on war deccing tbb?
Why pay for a war when all the kills are in 0.0?
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.02.05 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Are you still bitter about constantly having to run away from my crow in the old days?
You were actualy in the middle of the B(l)oB when we came up to visit you, but instead of being the big bad mofo everyone thinks you are you just gladly sat in the middle of 40 of your closest friends.
Your days of glory ended a long time ago, right around the time when all the exploits moo used ceased to exhist. Now all you are good at is flying around in a gang of 40+ ganking a traveler.
O and napping anyone that can pose a threat to you.
Exploits of m0o? I remember those old days. However, we did not exploit any game bugs, we exploited you.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.02.05 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: SATAN
Interesting you should say that.
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Then one of you had the nerve to say on the forums you "ALMOST" killed me.
Now now, throwing random numbers around doesn't make you cool.
Burn Eden likes to play the game on easy mode. Burn Eden goes to a target rich environment and lives on the easy kills, the unexperienced. When the easy targets are gone, or if they gained some experience and BE no longer gets the kills, BE gets bored and leave. All in all they have very little impact.
The impact they do have is caused by their posts every other day on this forum, and that is only because some people take it serious.
There are alot more PvP corporations out there that do like a challenge and take on other experienced players and deserve more to be in the spotlight.
Burn Eden is probably the most overrated PvP corporation in the game.
Are you still bitter about constantly having to run away from my crow in the old days?
You were actualy in the middle of the B(l)oB when we came up to visit you, but instead of being the big bad mofo everyone thinks you are you just gladly sat in the middle of 40 of your closest friends.
Your days of glory ended a long time ago, right around the time when all the exploits moo used ceased to exhist. Now all you are good at is flying around in a gang of 40+ ganking a traveler.
O and napping anyone that can pose a threat to you.
Haven't napped G and they are the biggest threat to us. :P
As far as engagements go, I don't see why we should give you a fair fight, you wouldn't give us one.
Did you ask him for a 1 on 1?
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hai ryuken
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Posted - 2006.02.05 10:45:00 -
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I like Burn Eden.
They cause lots of rumpus and get everyone upset.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.05 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: SATAN
Interesting you should say that.
Last time we came to play with B(l)oB you guys brought 40 people which included about 20bs to just 2 ravens and 1 tackler.
We called in the rest of the gang another 6 udie battle ships and you boys quickly ran off.
Then one of you had the nerve to say on the forums you "ALMOST" killed me.
Now now, throwing random numbers around doesn't make you cool.
Burn Eden likes to play the game on easy mode. Burn Eden goes to a target rich environment and lives on the easy kills, the unexperienced. When the easy targets are gone, or if they gained some experience and BE no longer gets the kills, BE gets bored and leave. All in all they have very little impact.
The impact they do have is caused by their posts every other day on this forum, and that is only because some people take it serious.
There are alot more PvP corporations out there that do like a challenge and take on other experienced players and deserve more to be in the spotlight.
Burn Eden is probably the most overrated PvP corporation in the game.
Are you still bitter about constantly having to run away from my crow in the old days?
You were actualy in the middle of the B(l)oB when we came up to visit you, but instead of being the big bad mofo everyone thinks you are you just gladly sat in the middle of 40 of your closest friends.
Your days of glory ended a long time ago, right around the time when all the exploits moo used ceased to exhist. Now all you are good at is flying around in a gang of 40+ ganking a traveler.
O and napping anyone that can pose a threat to you.
Haven't napped G and they are the biggest threat to us. :P
As far as engagements go, I don't see why we should give you a fair fight, you wouldn't give us one.
Did you ask him for a 1 on 1?
Yeah SATAN had a 1v1 with TWD and TWD ran off cause he couldn't hit tim.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.05 13:02:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
my only problem with the news article is that it took 3 days to actually put up which pretty much invalidated some of my comments (the part about you guys being locked down).
Other than that, I can't really complain about it as it took opinions both from their lead forum ho and people who have been on the other side of BE. The full transcript of my side of the interview can be found through the link in my sig.
You SERIOUSLY don't want to know what dragoon said in his original interview. What you read is the modified version
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2006.02.05 13:04:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Arnold Swartzenegger
In that case who is your main?
OMG BE realy are scraping the bottom of the barrel 
Luv ya arnie
Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.02.05 13:43:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
my only problem with the news article is that it took 3 days to actually put up which pretty much invalidated some of my comments (the part about you guys being locked down).
Speaking from experience, that's actually pretty fast, as far as ingame news are concerned.
I quite liked the article. Neutral tone, well written, informative.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2006.02.05 15:40:00 -
[52]
We do try to write and publish articles as fast as we can, but for each player news article you see published you can count on about an hour 3 or 4 of work for the volunteer, and that's not counting the actual writing but only doing the interviews with various people.
Capsicum wubs teh pinkz0r - QFT
Kaemonn was here --->X
RAWR!!11 - Imaran
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Arnold Swartzenegger
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Posted - 2006.02.05 16:11:00 -
[53]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Arnold Swartzenegger
In that case who is your main?
OMG BE realy are scraping the bottom of the barrel
Luv ya arnie
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.02.05 17:02:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Yeah SATAN had a 1v1 with TWD and TWD ran off cause he couldn't hit tim.
I never agreed to a 1vs1 with someone called 'SATAN', I would have remembered.
It might be hard for you to accept that back in m0o your corporation got spanked by us, but please, don't make things up. |
ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.02.05 17:07:00 -
[55]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Shin Ra
Yeah SATAN had a 1v1 with TWD and TWD ran off cause he couldn't hit tim.
I never agreed to a 1vs1 with someone called 'SATAN', I would have remembered.
It might be hard for you to accept that back in m0o your corporation got spanked by us, but please, don't make things up.
(kickass)
Likely he found you and damped you ad you ran, to which he probably screamed "z0mg he ran !!11" in all hypocrisy.
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran |
SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.05 17:24:00 -
[56]
Originally by: ParMizaN
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Shin Ra
Yeah SATAN had a 1v1 with TWD and TWD ran off cause he couldn't hit tim.
I never agreed to a 1vs1 with someone called 'SATAN', I would have remembered.
It might be hard for you to accept that back in m0o your corporation got spanked by us, but please, don't make things up.
(kickass)
Likely he found you and damped you ad you ran, to which he probably screamed "z0mg he ran !!11" in all hypocrisy.
Speaking of "running" you guys are really good at it. Guess when we warped in it was too much to see anything other than indy's to shoot at?
Last time I checked Crows were not good dampening platforms. So go back to shooting at indy's in empire from 180km out, that is ALL you will ever be good at.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.05 17:31:00 -
[57]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Shin Ra
Yeah SATAN had a 1v1 with TWD and TWD ran off cause he couldn't hit tim.
I never agreed to a 1vs1 with someone called 'SATAN', I would have remembered.
It might be hard for you to accept that back in m0o your corporation got spanked by us, but please, don't make things up.
BURN EDEN never got spanked around by M0o. Infact, we are one of the few corps that have a positive kill ratio against them.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.02.05 17:38:00 -
[58]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: ParMizaN
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Shin Ra
Yeah SATAN had a 1v1 with TWD and TWD ran off cause he couldn't hit tim.
I never agreed to a 1vs1 with someone called 'SATAN', I would have remembered.
It might be hard for you to accept that back in m0o your corporation got spanked by us, but please, don't make things up.
(kickass)
Likely he found you and damped you ad you ran, to which he probably screamed "z0mg he ran !!11" in all hypocrisy.
Speaking of "running" you guys are really good at it. Guess when we warped in it was too much to see anything other than indy's to shoot at?
Last time I checked Crows were not good dampening platforms. So go back to shooting at indy's in empire from 180km out, that is ALL you will ever be good at.
We were bored, and for the record i was not sniping, one or two of the guys were, and eys i think it's good practice to warp out when about 4 bs warp in on 2 snipers dont you?
I challenge you to find a killmail where i have sniped somebody at a gate in empire.
You will be hard pressed, as there are none. If you are going to smack you could at least do it with some fact to back it up :)
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran |
TWD
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Posted - 2006.02.06 05:39:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Shin Ra
BURN EDEN never got spanked around by M0o. Infact, we are one of the few corps that have a positive kill ratio against them.
Not by a long shot. Remember Gehi? If not, ask one of your older corp members. We never did receive a thank you for the schooling. How rude. |
SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.06 08:44:00 -
[60]
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Shin Ra
BURN EDEN never got spanked around by M0o. Infact, we are one of the few corps that have a positive kill ratio against them.
Not by a long shot. Remember Gehi? If not, ask one of your older corp members. We never did receive a thank you for the schooling. How rude.
That was way before any of us were in UDIE, those were the days when it was just another corp. They fought just like everyone else and died just like everyone else.
Since then...
We have had multiple encounters with moo and moo members in others corps and the result was always the same, they died or ran.
Try again.
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Markie
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Posted - 2006.02.06 10:07:00 -
[61]
This is not intended to be a flame and if I am wrong I will retract what I am about to say but:
BE are pirates right? That simpley gives them an advantage, pirates are not in it to prove any thing, they are only in it for personnel gain, am I right?
So, because of this there tackics of ganking, WCS, warping out when ganks come in is a valid tacktic, all be it a pain in the arse. I know for a fact that these guys are allwys using there scanner so probing becomes a little tricky.
The problem here is that they fight a totaly diffrent fight than most PVP corps, the way to get these guys is to evolve your tactics, use unterdictors (can they cloak and deploy there bubble straight after de-cloaking?)
they have the ability to hit at uber range and I for one respect that, I think that there tactics are a proper pain, but hey, there hard to get and thats what I like in PVP, if you enjoy easy kills and wont chase the hards ones that says a lot about you IMHO.
Also they do drop nice loot.
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Natasha Sonadaye
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Posted - 2006.02.06 19:05:00 -
[62]
*Scratches head* Intell is very important in combat and any means taken to get it should be taken also a solid exit strategy should be implemented as well after all it is combat were talkin about rite? WAKE UP FOLKS its time to be realistic and quit wining. Every enemy has a different aspect of engagement adapt or be defeated simple as that 
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Time Keeper
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Posted - 2006.02.06 19:07:00 -
[63]
Natasha is my alt not a BE alt btw mis**** char selection
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2006.02.06 19:31:00 -
[64]
haha BE makes everybody look stupid i really love reading these threads...
believe it/like it or not BE is [in]famous in eve and have gained teh notoriety that m0o had so all of u will have to deal with it!
personally i believe BE's opinion on engagements with boys on boys because boys on boys will say whatever they have to to make it look like they are incredibly badass where as i dont see too much Epeni waving from BE... they just state the facts and shoot people...
really if u think about it BE's tactics are hard to counter if u warp to a cov opsies with a bunch of ravens with damps/scramblers on its easy to take out some ships before tacklers can motor out to u especially with new t2 missiles... its simple warp in, align for warp out, EW, fire, warp out when tacklers get close... great tactics and a surefire way to make sure u end up on positive end of kill ratio!
and i love this thing u are doin to big blue...should do it to stella nova too...they sit back in Q-TBHW and mine crokite and npc all 23/7 with hardly any problems!
its like fish in a barrel seriously! honestly who just gives away 0.0 space to noobs? FE and big blue come to mind
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.06 20:03:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Ethan Tomlinson
haha BE makes everybody look stupid i really love reading these threads...
believe it/like it or not BE is [in]famous in eve and have gained teh notoriety that m0o had so all of u will have to deal with it!
personally i believe BE's opinion on engagements with boys on boys because boys on boys will say whatever they have to to make it look like they are incredibly badass where as i dont see too much Epeni waving from BE... they just state the facts and shoot people...
really if u think about it BE's tactics are hard to counter if u warp to a cov opsies with a bunch of ravens with damps/scramblers on its easy to take out some ships before tacklers can motor out to u especially with new t2 missiles... its simple warp in, align for warp out, EW, fire, warp out when tacklers get close... great tactics and a surefire way to make sure u end up on positive end of kill ratio!
and i love this thing u are doin to big blue...should do it to stella nova too...they sit back in Q-TBHW and mine crokite and npc all 23/7 with hardly any problems!
its like fish in a barrel seriously! honestly who just gives away 0.0 space to noobs? FE and big blue come to mind
We recently declared war on SNU. A couple of engagements in 0.0 resulted in huge losses for SNU and we were never challenged again. We did not pay the war bill another week as it was not profitable to do so. Killed lots of indys tho. Very few SNU ever appeared in anything larger than a cruiser.
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Delicious
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Posted - 2006.02.09 00:05:00 -
[66]
Alts rock
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.02.09 00:19:00 -
[67]
"where as i dont see too much Epeni waving from BE... they just state the facts and shoot people..."
You must be reading some other BE threads. Or it's some really selective reading ^^
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Danari
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Posted - 2006.02.09 00:36:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Danari on 09/02/2006 00:42:34
Speaking from experience, BE generally puts the covops on the other side of the gate they're camping, so covops wouldn't explain an eerie coincidence of them always warping away. However, they are generally off the gate and aligned when there is a force nearby, and it's trivial to watch the scanner for the warpin.
Sound tactics against sound tactics in this game is usually a stalemate when one of the fleets chooses not to engage. Only once did they have a covops out of position -- inside the system instead of on the other side of the gate, and I was able to set up some sniping damage to jump in after they decided to engage my modest sized group that warped in to them, and snared a hac as a result.
As far as I'm concerned, they use valid setups and tactics, and how balls to the wall a particular setup or tactic may be frankly is of no concern to anyone else. If you don't like the mechanics write a dev because your whining in here isn't going to change anything.
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Time Keeper
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Posted - 2006.02.09 00:50:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Danari
Edited by: Danari on 09/02/2006 00:42:34
Speaking from experience, BE generally puts the covops on the other side of the gate they're camping, so covops wouldn't explain an eerie coincidence of them always warping away. However, they are generally off the gate and aligned when there is a force nearby, and it's trivial to watch the scanner for the warpin.
Sound tactics against sound tactics in this game is usually a stalemate when one of the fleets chooses not to engage. Only once did they have a covops out of position -- inside the system instead of on the other side of the gate, and I was able to set up some sniping damage to jump in after they decided to engage my modest sized group that warped in to them, and snared a hac as a result.
As far as I'm concerned, they use valid setups and tactics, and how balls to the wall a particular setup or tactic may be frankly is of no concern to anyone else. If you don't like the mechanics write a dev because your whining in here isn't going to change anything.
signed
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popa babe
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Posted - 2006.02.09 01:27:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Ethan Tomlinson
haha BE makes everybody look stupid i really love reading these threads...
believe it/like it or not BE is [in]famous in eve and have gained teh notoriety that m0o had so all of u will have to deal with it!
personally i believe BE's opinion on engagements with boys on boys because boys on boys will say whatever they have to to make it look like they are incredibly badass where as i dont see too much Epeni waving from BE... they just state the facts and shoot people...
really if u think about it BE's tactics are hard to counter if u warp to a cov opsies with a bunch of ravens with damps/scramblers on its easy to take out some ships before tacklers can motor out to u especially with new t2 missiles... its simple warp in, align for warp out, EW, fire, warp out when tacklers get close... great tactics and a surefire way to make sure u end up on positive end of kill ratio!
and i love this thing u are doin to big blue...should do it to stella nova too...they sit back in Q-TBHW and mine crokite and npc all 23/7 with hardly any problems!
its like fish in a barrel seriously! honestly who just gives away 0.0 space to noobs? FE and big blue come to mind
just cause your mate demonthese joined em no need to blow the lot of them.
oh and confirmed by a be player complaining he can only fit 5 wcs on his raven.
and yes im a alt
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zeroh
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Posted - 2006.02.09 02:53:00 -
[71]
Edited by: zeroh on 09/02/2006 02:56:42
Edited by: zeroh on 09/02/2006 02:55:57
stop smacking burn killboards says it all
its all buhu they run they use stabs they dont fight buhu buhu
i WUB u kick
give them hell man
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.09 04:10:00 -
[72]
Originally by: zeroh
stop smacking burn killboards says it all
its all buhu they run they use stabs they dont fight buhu buhu
i WUB u kick
give them hell man
Reikoku  . Well, I guess all pirates join RKK at some point. Say hello to my good friend dbp.
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Sveny
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Posted - 2006.02.09 04:33:00 -
[73]
If they got a spy onto your TS, in your TS room - one question has to be asked....
Who let them in?
As for stabs vs numbers, everyone complains about everything else - its how the internet works.
Just think about how good you are before posting how lame someone else is, if your own security is flawed (try only gang members in ts room, pw your rooms, change server pw's every now and again. Its easy enough to get a spy in - keeping it there is the hard part.)
Sven
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skilz
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Posted - 2006.02.09 07:24:00 -
[74]
BUREN EDEN 4TW.
p.s. kickass convo me sometime :)
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Kraven Kor
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Posted - 2006.02.09 16:51:00 -
[75]
Someone here said "nobody is interested" in hearing from Burn Eden.
Yet here we have 3 pages of replies.
Personally, I've only ever once encountered them. When in FA, we had alliance chat light up for a few days "OMG Burn Eden is coming! Look out, Burn Eden is coming!" And then they came, popped a few ships, got chased off a few times. They are pretty dang good at not dieing, it would seem. Then they were "old news" to us when BoB took over Delve.
Now, the point I want to make here, is such: If you don't want to hear BE spouting off about their latest "accomplishments"... stop reading their threads.
If you reply, you obviously care.
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Tysenus
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Posted - 2006.02.09 17:57:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Zimiel
Remember that sweet time when you(BE) got totally locked to the 2-rsc7 system for 1 day+? You must¦ve felt yourselves really small and worthless back then while waiting for an opporturnity to flee. If I remember correctly you had to ask some friends from north to bust you thru. I¦m sure you paid for their service with the standard G/IRON currency. (Use your imagination to determine what kind of currency we are talking about)
Fact: The ASCN bubble camp was destroyed by 2 (yes two) sniping battleships, me in a Tempest and an Armageddon.
Fact: There was 7 bubbles on the gate. (6 mediums and 1 small)
Fact: The entire ASCN fleet was sitting inside the bubbles making it easy to lay waste to them. The ones that jumped into 2-R were met on that side by the main BE fleet.
Fact: G/IRON had nothing to do with this as it was purely a decision from some DOFA pilots to get an opportunity to destroy some targets... no matter whos they were.
The total kills that day are not known from all those involved in the two different systems but I had 3 battleship kills myself and the majority were destroyed by BE in 2-R. I cant believe the denial from ASCN since that day as they have tried to even claim that I am just a BE alt.
Ya I know I will get flamed... man I wish I would have run fraps that night 
Kill one man and your a murderer... kill a million and your a conquerer |
Danari
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Posted - 2006.02.09 20:09:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Tysenus
Originally by: Zimiel
Remember that sweet time when you(BE) got totally locked to the 2-rsc7 system for 1 day+? You must¦ve felt yourselves really small and worthless back then while waiting for an opporturnity to flee. If I remember correctly you had to ask some friends from north to bust you thru. I¦m sure you paid for their service with the standard G/IRON currency. (Use your imagination to determine what kind of currency we are talking about)
Fact: The ASCN bubble camp was destroyed by 2 (yes two) sniping battleships, me in a Tempest and an Armageddon.
Fact: There was 7 bubbles on the gate. (6 mediums and 1 small)
Fact: The entire ASCN fleet was sitting inside the bubbles making it easy to lay waste to them. The ones that jumped into 2-R were met on that side by the main BE fleet.
Fact: G/IRON had nothing to do with this as it was purely a decision from some DOFA pilots to get an opportunity to destroy some targets... no matter whos they were.
The total kills that day are not known from all those involved in the two different systems but I had 3 battleship kills myself and the majority were destroyed by BE in 2-R. I cant believe the denial from ASCN since that day as they have tried to even claim that I am just a BE alt.
Ya I know I will get flamed... man I wish I would have run fraps that night
It looks like 5 bs were popped in 2-r, and 1 in zid-le, plus whatever wasn't picked up on BE's killboard so yeah at the end of being camped in by miners and ratters, BE/DOFA exacted a certain amount of payback -- albeit against targets who can afford the losses better than anyone. Undeniably, BE had fewer kills over that time than usual for them. 5 out of 6 of the popped bs had very inexperienced pilots, so for me an engagement like that wouldn't make a top ten list the way it seems to for some other people.
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Ur4ssIsgr4ss
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Posted - 2006.02.09 21:18:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Danari
Originally by: Tysenus
Originally by: Zimiel
Remember that sweet time when you(BE) got totally locked to the 2-rsc7 system for 1 day+? You must¦ve felt yourselves really small and worthless back then while waiting for an opporturnity to flee. If I remember correctly you had to ask some friends from north to bust you thru. I¦m sure you paid for their service with the standard G/IRON currency. (Use your imagination to determine what kind of currency we are talking about)
Fact: The ASCN bubble camp was destroyed by 2 (yes two) sniping battleships, me in a Tempest and an Armageddon.
Fact: There was 7 bubbles on the gate. (6 mediums and 1 small)
Fact: The entire ASCN fleet was sitting inside the bubbles making it easy to lay waste to them. The ones that jumped into 2-R were met on that side by the main BE fleet.
Fact: G/IRON had nothing to do with this as it was purely a decision from some DOFA pilots to get an opportunity to destroy some targets... no matter whos they were.
The total kills that day are not known from all those involved in the two different systems but I had 3 battleship kills myself and the majority were destroyed by BE in 2-R. I cant believe the denial from ASCN since that day as they have tried to even claim that I am just a BE alt.
Ya I know I will get flamed... man I wish I would have run fraps that night
It looks like 5 bs were popped in 2-r, and 1 in zid-le, plus whatever wasn't picked up on BE's killboard so yeah at the end of being camped in by miners and ratters, BE/DOFA exacted a certain amount of payback -- albeit against targets who can afford the losses better than anyone. Undeniably, BE had fewer kills over that time than usual for them. 5 out of 6 of the popped bs had very inexperienced pilots, so for me an engagement like that wouldn't make a top ten list the way it seems to for some other people.
miners and ratters... excuses, excuses.
Oh and all of the players that you guys manage to kill... they are all noob carebears as well. I would like to know what you were thinking sending the worst pvpers in your alliance to camp in some battle hardened 0.0 pirates? I dont think you did, its an easy out and I have heard other peeps claim the same thing...."oh you only ganked our miners" its sad.
There are very few corps or alliances out there that will actually admit when they have faced defeat.... the ones that do are usually the ones that dont get defeated very often and will congratulate the other on thier victory.
ASCN is not one of these.
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Danari
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Posted - 2006.02.10 00:26:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Danari on 10/02/2006 00:27:13
Originally by: Ur4ssIsgr4ss
[:lol:
miners and ratters... excuses, excuses.
Oh and all of the players that you guys manage to kill... they are all noob carebears as well. I would like to know what you were thinking sending the worst pvpers in your alliance to camp in some battle hardened 0.0 pirates?
/me shrugs, nobody sent them, that's just what they decided to do. Most of us thought it was hilarious, even with the end result it was still hilarious imo.
We kill nubs for Darwinian reasons just like anyone, but it'll take only but a glance to see a lot of our kills are experienced pvpers as well.
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.02.10 19:25:00 -
[80]
Originally by: SATAN
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4 .
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
So your complaining that they dock when they have 30, and also complain when they bring 20 to fight you?
Is it just me or does that seem backwards?
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.10 19:40:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Frakri Hogsto
Originally by: SATAN
I could tell you how we do it but then your would force me to kill you again.
Far as us using what you call cowardly or whatever. This is what I call "COWARDLY".
Some examples...
Docking when you have 30 in local and 3 of us jump in.
Bringing out a fleet of say 20+ to engage 3 or 4.
Screaming in your alliance chat DO NOT ENGAGE them DOCK or Safe spot.
Joining an alliance of hundreds to fight with.
I can go on and on...
So your complaining that they dock when they have 30, and also complain when they bring 20 to fight you?
Is it just me or does that seem backwards?
Who said I was complaining, the word used was cowardly.
Our fighting style has adapted to the enemy blobing us even if CCP does not like it. At this point the more they bring the more they loose...
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raVn666
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Posted - 2006.02.10 21:59:00 -
[82]
lol ...fun as always reading Burn Eden treads
All the anger shows how fustrated the blobbers are over not beeing able to pwn a handfull pilotes.
good job guys ... U really know how to stare up the masses
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.11 00:01:00 -
[83]
Our name always brings out the best in people. They just cant get enough.
For anyone that cares the Big Blue drops amazing loot. In the 2 weeks there our loot run has exceeded 3 billion isk, and still have about 100 stacked items to sell. An expected 3.5 bil should be achieved.
I love the big blue
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Ivanov
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Posted - 2006.02.11 02:11:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Ivanov on 11/02/2006 02:14:18
so i guess by not-cowardly you mean giving up to the enemy your 75mill+ fitted raven because they managed to get 1 measely point of scram on you with a 9mill ceptor?
I used a B-E setup on my raven today, went solo against a mixed fleet of 12(including other BS), was fun as hell, killed a few things, and i lived.
I don't dis on their setups or tactics, i dis on the forum whoring and trashtalking. it just makes them sound like a bunch of immature pre-teens TBH. they would be a lot scarier if they went around killing ppl and said NOTHING at all. but when the spectre of death opens it's mouth and sounds like a whiny trashtalking CS kid, it's not really scary or respectable anymore, it's just annoying. the stupid PR announcements are really not nessacery IMHO either.
just go kill stuff and let that talk, period.
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.11 03:51:00 -
[85]
We love you too.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.11 07:53:00 -
[86]
Originally by: raVn666
lol ...fun as always reading Burn Eden treads
All the anger shows how fustrated the blobbers are over not beeing able to pwn a handfull pilotes.
good job guys ... U really know how to stare up the masses
Pff this is nothing. You should have seen the threads this time last year. If a BE thread didn't go over 10 pages, it was only cause the forums were down.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2006.02.11 09:44:00 -
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yea.. dissapointing much
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Malken
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Posted - 2006.02.11 10:05:00 -
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using stabs is not a BE event.
we caught 2 tundragon megathrons the other day and put -4 on each of them and they ran.
its a ever increasing occurance.
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raVn666
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
using stabs is not a BE event.
we caught 2 tundragon megathrons the other day and put -4 on each of them and they ran.
its a ever increasing occurance.
well ..of course it is , when U belong to a small group of pvp'ers and are outnumbered and outblobbed most of the time its almost a must to survive. Noone gives away theyr ships freely.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: ParMizaN on 11/02/2006 17:34:02
Originally by: raVn666
Originally by: Malken
using stabs is not a BE event.
we caught 2 tundragon megathrons the other day and put -4 on each of them and they ran.
its a ever increasing occurance.
well ..of course it is , when U belong to a small group of pvp'ers and are outnumbered and outblobbed most of the time its almost a must to survive. Noone gives away theyr ships freely.
You can be more efectve without stabs in a small group with the right tactics. No stabs doesnt = suicide.
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
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Khjan
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:01:00 -
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Burn Eden is a serious (atleast so it seems) corperation who wants to win, who cares how the do it? I fear and respect Burn Eden for their smart use of Covert Ops, ship setups and if they use spies so be it, it's just another good trick . They have shown people what a real PVP corperation should be like. Burn Eden should be a model for any PVP corperation to look like. And if they use shady tactics....
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raVn666
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
Edited by: ParMizaN on 11/02/2006 17:34:02
Originally by: raVn666
Originally by: Malken
using stabs is not a BE event.
we caught 2 tundragon megathrons the other day and put -4 on each of them and they ran.
its a ever increasing occurance.
well ..of course it is , when U belong to a small group of pvp'ers and are outnumbered and outblobbed most of the time its almost a must to survive. Noone gives away theyr ships freely.
You can be more efectve without stabs in a small group with the right tactics. No stabs doesnt = suicide.
well of course there are other ways to fight as a minority , but its still a fact that the use of wcs gets more commond among pvp'ers, and I see it as a reaction to the EW-patch, and the tendence to operate in larger groups. In syndicate U rarely see groups under 10-20 ppl this days , and the ones going solo or small groups fits wcs
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Cleveland Steamer
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Khjan
Burn Eden is a serious (atleast so it seems) corperation who wants to win, who cares how the do it? I fear and respect Burn Eden for their smart use of Covert Ops, ship setups and if they use spies so be it, it's just another good trick . They have shown people what a real PVP corperation should be like. Burn Eden should be a model for any PVP corperation to look like. And if they use shady tactics....
lol nice try thedragoon, we know it's you, the spelling and grammar gives it away
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Khjan
Burn Eden is a serious (atleast so it seems) corperation who wants to win, who cares how the do it? I fear and respect Burn Eden for their smart use of Covert Ops, ship setups and if they use spies so be it, it's just another good trick . They have shown people what a real PVP corperation should be like. Burn Eden should be a model for any PVP corperation to look like. And if they use shady tactics....
We must be doing something wrong, there are way too many UDIE fans in EvE now.
And this is not thedragoon, I have his account details and his mastery of the english language is far worse than this chap.
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
Edited by: ParMizaN on 11/02/2006 17:34:02
Originally by: raVn666
Originally by: Malken
using stabs is not a BE event.
we caught 2 tundragon megathrons the other day and put -4 on each of them and they ran.
its a ever increasing occurance.
well ..of course it is , when U belong to a small group of pvp'ers and are outnumbered and outblobbed most of the time its almost a must to survive. Noone gives away theyr ships freely.
You can be more efectve without stabs in a small group with the right tactics. No stabs doesnt = suicide.
Is that why when we ran into your group the other night and you ran like always the biomice CRUISER we had scrambled warped away with stabs on?
We may or may not use stabs on BS's and such but NEVER EVER on anything smaller.
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2006.02.11 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Cleveland Steamer
Originally by: Khjan
Burn Eden is a serious (atleast so it seems) corperation who wants to win, who cares how the do it? I fear and respect Burn Eden for their smart use of Covert Ops, ship setups and if they use spies so be it, it's just another good trick . They have shown people what a real PVP corperation should be like. Burn Eden should be a model for any PVP corperation to look like. And if they use shady tactics....
lol nice try thedragoon, we know it's you, the spelling and grammar gives it away
Nope not me.
Bruno Octavius > Are you guys winning up there by the way?
Keirin Hanzo > no wer not winning, wer whining
http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/WOR/The_Big_Blue_war2.wmvBurn Eden Movie[/ur |
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