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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.02.05 01:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Slaveabuser
Are you selling?
No, im quite fond of mine actually. Its quite pleasnant.
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Soulis
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Posted - 2006.02.05 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Slaveabuser
Originally by: Drilla
Originally by: Slaveabuser
Nothing is more fun that reading the desperate typing of people drinking alone in front of their computer.
Who said oI was aloen!? Stop procjeting your lief onto me!
In English plz.
what language is plz??
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Messerschmitt
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Posted - 2006.02.05 02:43:00 -
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I still have 3 of them...
Ahh its sweet when you have friends isn't it?
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Bear grrr
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Posted - 2006.02.05 18:50:00 -
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COME on CCP release more bpo's
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Pencheven
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Posted - 2006.02.05 19:33:00 -
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Im begining to think that maybe the whole lack of T2 ships can actualy be a good thing for EVE, now please before you go crazy, just hear me out.
Once upon a time T2 ships were rather rear, and everyone used T1 ships, this allowed the general population to have a fighting chance in gangs or solo agaisnt most ships, and then the lucky few who had T2 ships were very good fighters, however a new person to the game could generally stand a chance with a T1 ship in a fight (due to few T2 ships so mostly people flew T1)
Currently we have more people on EVE than ever before, and at the moment, the general idea is the only way you can stand a fighting chance is to have T2 ships with T2 fittings, meaning newer players, and generally if anyone decides to go with a T1 ship they will most likley die. However with more people, there are few'er T2 ships to go around.
So when T2 ships in general become rather rear, it would give most T1 pilots a chance, and not need to conform to the whole T2 ships idea.
Generally alot of pilots seem to fly a T2 ship now days, leaving T1 pilots to be rather done in due to the enormas power compared with T1 fighting T2.
See if everyone flew a T2 ship there would be no point in T1, meaning T2 ships shouldnt be avaliable to everyone, they should be expensive and rear but very powerfull like they are..
Do you understand where im comming from?
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Lysunder
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Posted - 2006.02.05 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pencheven
Do you understand where im comming from?
yes + agreed
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Vampire Blade
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Posted - 2006.02.05 20:07:00 -
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I'm pretty sure The Enslaver has a Zealot BPO and sells them for 55m via evemail.
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Soulis
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Posted - 2006.02.05 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Vampire Blade
I'm pretty sure The Enslaver has a Zealot BPO and sells them for 55m via evemail.
i believe you would be correct. convo him when he's online
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Maule
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Posted - 2006.02.05 20:36:00 -
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Hac¦s should stay rare untill T3 is released.
Could say the same about bs but thats to late 
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Nyxus on 06/02/2006 16:46:04
Originally by: Pencheven
Do you understand where im comming from?
Pencheven you have a very good point. I often wonder if this is the Devs goal when it comes to Hacs and long construction time T2 ships like the Recons and T2 BC's. It is obvious that as time goes by the demand for powerful T2 ships will grow, while production (assuming 24/7 alts) is a constant or actually decreases with the component nerf.
However, the issue isn't really resolved by this as Hacs are still entering the game, but mainly only for the alliance that holds the BPO. And if your Alliance doesn't have a Hac BPO and your enemies are all flying Hacs it's gonna be.....ugly unless you have some really creative tacticians or are able to field/accept more losses even if yours are lower isk losses.
There is currently a concentration of isk/power going on ingame in relation to T2 item and ship BPOs. The more ship/item BPO's your alliance owns, the more powerful your fleets are while risking less. The easier it is to make money and replace losses. The easier it is to recruit good pvpers (omg join us we give you Zealots for AF prices!). The more disposable income the alliance has for investments. Lokta knows this, BoB knows this, every good pvp alliance knows this and there is currently a quiet economic war going on in an attempt to tie up or corner the market. And if you don't think it's a POWERFUL incentive....try losing a couple of Hacs for 200m and hearing a buddy in another alliance talk about how he just got the same hac for 50m. Elve Sorrow and Drilla can effectively buy your soul for the low low price of cheap Zealots.
Of course, nothing is worse than your alliance having Hac/T2 gun/item bpos......but not the ones you can use. 
Nyxus
Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I have one, it's shiny 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 
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Jacques > eris - anon
who is stealing my pink? eris
Be nice and share your pink - Wrangler
RAWRRR!11 - Immy
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Oosel
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Posted - 2006.02.06 17:43:00 -
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eve is and always has been fueled by player greed the only way to make sure the price comes down is not to buy them......but thats never going to happen so you just have to go along in the vain hope you might get lucky in the bpo lottery.........i dont even use my zealot anymore knowing how expensive it would be to replace
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.02.06 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Drilla
I woneder how m any bpos CCCP relaesed back when max players was 7-8000 online max.
They should releas 1 bpo pr. 1000 actibve aCcounts they have in EVE.
no they shouldnt nub. we have plenty hac BPOs, thje less other ppl hav ethe better for us.
WTT one of our Zealot bpos for one of yours 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2006.02.06 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 06/02/2006 18:03:44
Originally by: Gavin Kineli
You're under the weird impression everybody should have a Zealot.
If that were the case, there would be more BPOs.
There will be more (HAC) BPOs in the future (edit: or maybe limited run BPCs). We just have to wait until the new R&D system is ready and that might take some time. Imho that's not just a wish, that's almost 100% sure. (The discussions about BPO auctions for research points come into my mind.)
But it's also sure that they won't release so many BPOs that the hacs become really cheap.
I just wait and relax. Maybe I'll also just post a 'cry me a river' on the day the new R&D system is ready.
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.02.06 18:04:00 -
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Well i dunno, I want a cerb to run missions with cause it's a fun ship, but i'm not gonna fork 150 mill for it.
The entire T2 market is whacked and we all know it, so yeah ur prolly better off with a BS/BC for the moment. Just a pitty though that i bought my first Cerb for less then 80 mill and now there almost double that price 
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spRAYed
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Posted - 2006.02.06 18:14:00 -
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!!OK I HEAR YA!!
This is whats the Problem....Trevedian has 3 of those Yellow Cruiser BPO's and he's just not building any of them. Its all his Fault....blaim him! Or his corp!
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Oosel
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Posted - 2006.02.06 18:18:00 -
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ah so trev has them maybe he will feel sorry for me after releiving me of a nightmare the other day i will badger him and see if i get lucky lol
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super4lt
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Posted - 2006.02.06 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pencheven
however a new person to the game could generally stand a chance with a T1 ship in a fight (due to few T2 ships so mostly people flew T1)
Yes. But EVE has evolved since then.
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Imran
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Posted - 2006.02.06 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Imran on 06/02/2006 19:10:10
oopsie.
EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente?
Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful |
Imran
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Posted - 2006.02.06 19:07:00 -
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I gave up on hacs, just not worth it anymore.
EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente?
Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful |
The Ratfink
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Posted - 2006.02.06 20:57:00 -
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The Enslaver has a Zealot BPO he is so busy currently that he will only accept orders through in game convo's or eve-mail currently offering zealots for 70 mil 4 days delay
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:01:00 -
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Yea.
Contact 'The Enslaver' ingame for good prices on Cap Recharger IIs, Zealots, Ishtars, Vagabonds and various other Tech2 Ships and Modules! |
The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:01:00 -
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I hate people.
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Shinra Director
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Darth Vroevl
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
I hate people.
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Crusher166
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Crusher166 on 06/02/2006 21:15:52
Originally by: The Enslaver
I hate people.
i know what you did enslaver, i know.
I hope your not telling a little fib about being "not hostile".
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Yea.
best sig ever.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:22:00 -
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The mail spam.
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Erik Pathfinder
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:26:00 -
[88]
Originally by: 000Hunter000
Well i dunno, I want a cerb to run missions with cause it's a fun ship, but i'm not gonna fork 150 mill for it.
The entire T2 market is whacked and we all know it, so yeah ur prolly better off with a BS/BC for the moment. Just a pitty though that i bought my first Cerb for less then 80 mill and now there almost double that price
Same exact situation for me. I lost my Cerberus because I made a stupid mistake (not scouting out a new RMR mission). The one I lost had cost me 80 million. At the time I lost my Cerberus, the prices had already climbed to 120 million and they now seem to be going up every week. Considering my playstyle doesn't let me recuperate that kind of cash quickly, I haven't replaced it yet.
There is obviously a problem with supply here. The question is not whether everyone should be ALLOWED to get a t2 ship. If you have the money for one and the skills to fly it, nothing should prevent you from getting one. What makes the current situation insane is that now people are afraid to use them because they know how expensive they are.
I see faction cruisers on escrow for 60-70 million a piece (ie Gila) and Cerberii for 165+ million. There was a time when faction ships were rarer and pricier. They dont even have BPOs FFS!
I hope that CCP releases more BPOs for these ships. There are a lot more players now than there were when they came out, and they are ALL entitled to fly one of these ships if they have the skills and money. They should NOT have to wait several months in line with the few producers who "generously" sell to non-alliance folk.
I can see the tactical thinking in alliances keeping t2 BPOs within their alliance and I would probably think the same way in their position. That said, t2 ships have become something they should not be; a rare expensive ship that's considered irreplaceable. The fact that BPOs were released eliminates the rare and irreplaceable part, otherwise they would have been limited run BPCs dished out irregularly. The only thing it SHOULD be is expensive.
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:32:00 -
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i blame the carebares buying them to run missions
and more the carebares that loose them killing stupid rats
but i have seen a price drop recently in the hac market. probably to do with the new t2 bc which the agent *****s seem to be going for and the new recons which more pvpers are going for over the hacs.
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Bear grrr
COME on CCP release more bpo's
definitly no
i dont want to see hacs drop to 50mils isk a piece. or everyone and his mother will be flying one.
they are specilised ratting/pvp tools and need to stay more then 150mils to continue being specilised.
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