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Aro2220
The Dragon Faction
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Posted - 2013.10.28 21:53:00 -
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Which solar system has the longest distance from one jump gate to another? |
Lord LazyGhost
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2013.10.28 21:55:00 -
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Resbroko its like 160 au across thats a bigone |
Adaris
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Posted - 2013.10.28 21:58:00 -
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As commented upon in an old thread:
"9-266Q in Venal is pretty large. If i remember correctly one of the gate to gate warps (think it was H-PA/BV-1 oder BV-1/N6G) should be somewhat around the 290 AU mark. Did that once in a freighter. Never again Shocked"
Rubicon's warp/accel changes should shake things up though.
Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities.~ Mark Twain
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:01:00 -
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Adaris wrote:Rubicon's warp/accel changes should shake things up though.
More for shorter warps than for longer ones, actually. The issue was acceleration time being constant. In short warps, that resulted in most of it being spent accelerating, so reducing acceleration times for small ships (and lengthening it for big ships) will have more of an effect. In long warps, you already spent most of it at top warp speed, so the effect is lessened.
Just FYI. 
ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
@ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2470
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:04:00 -
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The update will makes things better for interdictors and hics, mostly because the targets they chase down are larger than they are. Super excited for my favorite ship class to get even better.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:05:00 -
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Leave it to the ISDs to completely derail a thread.  |
Adaris
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:09:00 -
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Thanks for clarifying ISD LackOfFaith 
I'm going to need a whole new strategy for taking bio-breaks, or perhaps CCP could add a "Navigate through the largest systems only" option to the autopilot... *yes, invites death* 
-á |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:28:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Leave it to the ISDs to completely derail a thread.
... Fine, be that way! 
I ran this SQLite query on a recent DB dump:
Quote:select solarSystemName, radius from mapsolarsystems order by radius desc limit 50;
The raw results are here: http://pastebin.com/rixaPWvG
Tinkering with the numbers shows that those figures are in meters (otherwise we would get completely bogus AU figures). This means that, looking at the top 50 systems by radius:
- The largest system in Eve is J101248 in W-space, with a radius of 142.3 AU. That means that its diameter (and longest possible warp) is right around 284.6 AU.
- Ranking 23rd is the largest K-space system, 9-266Q, with a radius of 101.5 AU, or a diameter of 203 AU.
- Aeter is the largest empire system (and 39th in the ranking), with a radius of 83.8 AU, or a diameter of 167.6 AU. It is in lowsec, though.
- The largest hisec system appears to be Yria, which is ranked 48th. It is 78.8 AU in radius, or 157.6 AU across.
Someone should probably check my numbers, or actually visit these systems to confirm the veracity of the info. I have been known to screw up.
ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
@ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:30:00 -
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The radius in the DB has likely nothing to do with actual distances of objects within the system. I can confirm that there are definitely gates further out than 203 AU in some systems. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:36:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:The radius in the DB has likely nothing to do with actual distances of objects within the system. I can confirm that there are definitely gates further out than 203 AU in some systems.
Fair enough, I'll poke around and see if I can't get some measurements on that. Just have to figure out where/how the gate coordinates are tucked away.
ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
@ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo
WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:59:00 -
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I always thought it was a system in the Great Wildland, V89M-R or one of the system close by; I've only passed through a couple of time and the warp gate to gate is more than 200 au.
As a matter of interest, why is that top 50 list overwhelmenly populated with WH space?
I am a pod pilot:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.28 23:03:00 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:As a matter of interest, why is that top 50 list overwhelmenly populated with WH space?
Beats me. SQL databases do not really answer "why" questions. W-space is big?
ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
@ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2764
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Posted - 2013.10.28 23:10:00 -
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D4KU-5 is a good camp place... deep safes... think over 240AU it's huge
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Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.28 23:14:00 -
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Lord LazyGhost wrote:Resbroko its like 160 au across thats a bigone
H-PA in Venal is over 220+au |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.10.28 23:17:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Adaris wrote:Rubicon's warp/accel changes should shake things up though. More for shorter warps than for longer ones, actually. The issue was acceleration time being constant. In short warps, that resulted in most of it being spent accelerating, so reducing acceleration times for small ships (and lengthening it for big ships) will have more of an effect. In long warps, you already spent most of it at top warp speed, so the effect is lessened. Just FYI.
You are so smart. +1
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.29 00:02:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Desert Ice78 wrote:As a matter of interest, why is that top 50 list overwhelmenly populated with WH space? Beats me. SQL databases do not really answer "why" questions. W-space is big?
W-space wouldn't count, no gates there.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.29 00:06:00 -
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Aaaaand done. I wrote a quick little Python script to go through every solar system and compare the distances between its gates. You can find it here.
When run, its output is:
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Maximum gate-gate warp was...
in system 9-266Q
a distance of 201.97 AU
from Stargate (1-Y6KI) to Stargate (N6G-H3)
There you have it. It's still in 9-266Q as my radius search of earlier, but the warp is slightly shorter than the diameter of the system.
Let me know if you find any problems with my code or need me to look up something else. 
ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
@ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.29 00:25:00 -
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For the spreadsheet people, I have compiled some CSV data for every maximum gate warp for every system. It's even nice to just CTRL+F through and see what warps you should camp try to not warp across in slow ships.
Enjoy!
ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
@ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.10.29 00:29:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:For the spreadsheet people, I have compiled some CSV data for every maximum gate warp for every system. It's even nice to just CTRL+F through and see what warps you should camp try to not warp across in slow ships. Enjoy!
Hey I need a good spreadsheet person to help me make a better one for keeping track of clients and others. Sadly the in game watchlist maximum is too low. We should get together and discuss sometime.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.29 00:59:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:For the spreadsheet people, I have compiled some CSV data for every maximum gate warp for every system. It's even nice to just CTRL+F through and see what warps you should camp try to not warp across in slow ships. Enjoy! Hey I need a good spreadsheet person to help me make a better one for keeping track of clients and others. Sadly the in game watchlist maximum is too low. We should get together and discuss sometime. Open Notepad
Open/Save [filename of clients.txt]
CTRL+F clients nameExample wrote:Solstice Project XXX if he has three X, then he already reached his maximum.
The "X" gets added at the end of the characters line.
You will obviously add the character into the list, if it's not there.
Ordering is irrelevant, as you are using notepads own search.
THAT BEING SAID ...............................
You are *such* a lazy ass! You simply mark every contract with a specific standing.
Well ... that didn't work out forever. xD |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.10.29 01:09:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Aaaaand done. I wrote a quick little Python script to go through every solar system and compare the distances between its gates. You can find it here. When run, its output is: Quote:
Maximum gate-gate warp was...
in system 9-266Q
a distance of 201.97 AU
from Stargate (1-Y6KI) to Stargate (N6G-H3)
There you have it. It's still in 9-266Q as my radius search of earlier, but the warp is slightly shorter than the diameter of the system. Let me know if you find any problems with my code or need me to look up something else.
I don't know how or where, but your script is wrong, sir. |
Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 01:28:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Aaaaand done. I wrote a quick little Python script to go through every solar system and compare the distances between its gates. You can find it here. When run, its output is: Quote:
Maximum gate-gate warp was...
in system 9-266Q
a distance of 201.97 AU
from Stargate (1-Y6KI) to Stargate (N6G-H3)
There you have it. It's still in 9-266Q as my radius search of earlier, but the warp is slightly shorter than the diameter of the system. Let me know if you find any problems with my code or need me to look up something else.
Your pattern is advanced, but suggests two-dimensional thinking.
[Edit: actually, no; your formula is right. There are jumps much larger than that, though, so something must be wrong with your queries.] |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:06:00 -
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Hmm, I've double-checked it, and it looks like the database dump might be the inaccurate thing. I'll keep looking into it. That's weird, though.
ISD LackOfFaith
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
@ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Sheldor Amouh
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:09:00 -
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A couple of possible theories on gate distances being farther than expected based on the queries. First, radius may represent the orbit of the last planet in the system and there are gates outside of that orbit. Also, as someone referenced we arent dealing with a flat plane. This means a gate on one side of the system could be above the otbit plane while the gate on the other side is below, making the line connecting them longer than a flat diameter measurement. |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:25:00 -
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Python queries aside, I know theres a couple 280au warps in Venal, thats gotta be the biggest..
THOSE ARE THE BEST BIO BREAKS EVER |
Mercas Alderau
Wholesale Merchants
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:30:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Python queries aside, I know theres a couple 280au warps in Venal, thats gotta be the biggest..
THOSE ARE THE BEST BIO BREAKS EVER
Better not be flying an interceptor, though. |
ZAKURELL0 LINDA
Black Scorpions Inc
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:52:00 -
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Mercas Alderau wrote:Leigh Akiga wrote:Python queries aside, I know theres a couple 280au warps in Venal, thats gotta be the biggest..
THOSE ARE THE BEST BIO BREAKS EVER Better not be flying an interceptor, though.
or warping a freighter, with a hostile interceptor entered system
RIP Iron Lady |
Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:53:00 -
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Mercas Alderau wrote:Leigh Akiga wrote:Python queries aside, I know theres a couple 280au warps in Venal, thats gotta be the biggest..
THOSE ARE THE BEST BIO BREAKS EVER Better not be flying an interceptor, though.
warping speed will be lower, only acceleration will be a lot faster.. so in long warps it will actually take longer.
u dumb |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:58:00 -
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I seem to remember a nullsec system I used to roam through being over 400 AU between gates..... 0SHT-A, I believe.....
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
3363
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Posted - 2013.10.29 04:04:00 -
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Mercas Alderau wrote:Leigh Akiga wrote:Python queries aside, I know theres a couple 280au warps in Venal, thats gotta be the biggest..
THOSE ARE THE BEST BIO BREAKS EVER Better not be flying an interceptor, though.
Challenge accepted. |
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