Pretty sure ccp has said they are a good honest group you should feel proud to give your credits gained from paying for a gtc through them to

Panama has no information exchange agreements with other countries. That means that an official letter from the tax office in your country to any of Panamanian banks or government agencies will fail to produce the result. In most of cases, such a letter will remain unanswered. That is what is meant with sovereign country. Panama is independent and unlimited by any other country. It has its own government and is not subject to another power.

The IRL equivalent to this is the US government giving weapons manufacturers or PMCs tax breaks because of their excellent community work.

I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standards.
For example

Source: http://www.viaden.com/products/panama_license.html

Not posting with my main because reasons.

The question is: has SomerBLINK ever had its systems reviewed by a reputable source?

With any sort of gambling institution, the whole point is to fleece users of their hard-earned geld.

Is that how they avoid taxes... huh.

Internet gaming companies domiciled in Panama enjoy complete tax exemptions. Customs duty concessions are given for imports needed to carry on Internet gaming. As long as the income made from Internet operations is to jurisdictions outside of Panama, there is no income tax, withholding tax, sales tax or VAT tax.

Lovely company for CCP to get into bed with.

Also probability...

I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standards.
For example

Source: http://www.viaden.com/products/panama_license.html

I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standardsl

Somer has as much right to scam stupid players as any of the other thousands of people jealous of his success.

Mr Epeen

Ah but the owner and operator (Somerset Mahm) is an American living and working in America. I wonder if they declared that 130k or if its housed in some offshore account. The whole thing is creepy and seedy and it stinks that CCP got sucked into it.

Get this crap outta my fake internet spaceship universe

The real life connotation- as in real life dollars from being an ETC affiliate is what people are having a problem with sir..

Are you saying Somer has the right to be a scammer IRL as well?

ITT - people who don't understand cloud computing, and think the node they ping from their location is where a business is located.

User name relevant.

Except that I saw a guy win two 1/300 promo.blinks in the AU TZ in a row, a 1/90000 occurrence, and then he won a 1/500 promo.blink for 3x hulks about twelve hours later.

Promo.blinks seem awfully streaky.

ITT - people who don't understand cloud computing, and think the node they ping from their location is where a business is located.

User name relevant.

I have to admit, that part does look pretty shady and is interesting if true. I personally would do the same thing though. I'd let the Panamanians have it before I'd give a dime to Barry Soetoro. The location of their servers doesn't necessarily imply wrong-doing, although when taken with all the other stuff recently disclosed, it does add up for bad publicity for Somer. It would be helpful if they would give us a public statement concerning these matters.

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Which is why I ask, Karak; because it seemed like an odd series of coincidences.

The who is data on COGDEV.NET

Domain Name: COGDEV.NET
Creation Date: 2010-09-21 20:09:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-09-21 20:09:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Registrant City: PANAMA
Registrant State/Province: PANAMA
Registrant Postal Code: NA
Registrant Country: PA
Admin Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Admin Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Admin Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Admin City: PANAMA
Admin State/Province: PANAMA
Admin Postal Code: NA
Admin Country: PA
Admin Phone: +507.8365503
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +51.17057182
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: Email Masking [email protected]
Tech Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Tech Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Tech Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Tech City: PANAMA
Tech State/Province: PANAMA
Tech Postal Code: NA
Tech Country: PA
Tech Phone: +507.8365503
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +51.17057182
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: Email Masking [email protected]
Name Server: ART.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LILY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM

Also note Cloud Flare

It also prevents people determining your servers location via a who is look up.

Not posting with my main because reasons.
The question is: has SomerBLINK ever had its systems reviewed by a reputable source?

blink has spent a lot of time, energy, and money in their service. When you are good at what you do especially when the premise of your success is so simple you will always have haters that are jealous

The big problem came when CCP started 'giving' them things re: creating assets out of thin air, ingame to raffle and lotto and promote the site, thus promoting clickthroughs and real life profits.

This was the worst thing they could do given that Somer himself seems to be pretty tight with CCP to begin with judging by his twitter. It looks like cronie ism

Why would Somer cheat?


They make their isk by you gambling there

Again- this is not about isk. No one has any problem with Somer making isk ingame. This is about real life money.

Isk is disposable and useless to Somer and his friends, they give it away like candy to take your eye away from the real deal which is the affiliate percentage they receive from GTC. The trillions and quadrillions of isk is a smokescreen.

Why would Somer cheat?

Again- this is not about isk. No one has any problem with Somer making isk ingame. This is about real life money.

I can think of a 135,000 reasons.

Yeah because rigging their website would get more people to buy GTCs from them.

:logic:

Yeah because rigging their website would get more people to buy GTCs from them.

:logic:

Again- this is not about isk. No one has any problem with Somer making isk ingame. This is about real life money.

I can think of a 135,000 reasons.

Mhmmm and a casino doesn't need oversight and regulations because they wouldn't load dice, rig money wheels, etc...that would cause less people to play. Oh, wait...they have some of the toughest rules in business and for a very good reason.

:you're a dummy:

And your equating blink with RL casino's is about the same as equating suicide gankers with RL terrorists.

Wait no, we have ccp's assurances that they are honest and a great community service provider. Doesn't that solve all your misgivings about these good honest people.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about stupid people and their problems with blink. If you don't like them then don't use their site. Pretty simple.

I like to gamble and so I shall continue to do so regardless of the EVE armchair lawyers.

ahem.

Do your research.

Blink isn't registered in Panama.

Blink is using a whois protection service, who are registered in panama.

http://www.whoisguard.com/

The details on Whois have to be accurate, for a way to get in contact with the owner of the domain. However, they can be the details of a company that will forward relevant emails and mail to the actual owner, so the owner doesn't get spammed to hell.

That's what's happened here. It's far from unusual. iirc, it's normally a couple of bucks on top of the normal domain registration fee.

I stand corrected

So instead we have a business registered: Unknown
Hosted in: Unknown
Controlled by the Gambling laws of: Unknown
Protected by: A Panama Company

That is so much better.

The joys of :tinfoil:

Actually having run hundreds of web sites I have never used such a service as my customer base was located within the USA, I had to adhere to US laws as well as the laws of various other countries.

So please as you are enlightened, please tell me

Where Somer Blink is registered for Business?
Where are its servers are located?
What jurisdictions are involved with its websites?
What country does it pay income tax in?

You know the easy to answer questions of any reputable business.

Somers pages do not even contain a copyright warning that I could find.

Actually having run hundreds of web sites I have never used such a service as my customer base was located within the USA, I had to adhere to US laws as well as the laws of various other countries.

So please as you are enlightened, please tell me

Where Somer Blink is registered for Business?
Where are its servers are located?
What jurisdictions are involved with its websites?
What country does it pay income tax in?

You know the easy to answer questions of any reputable business.

Somers pages do not even contain a copyright warning that I could find.

Uh, whois blocking has /nothing/ to do with adhering to any laws. So that's a strawman right there. Where ever I've registered domain names, there's generally been a tickbox for whois protection when I've done it. And because everyone loves throwing numbers out there, at work I'm managing around 800 domains, because my bosses just love ring fencing their brands. Thank god that we've been able to get them to reduce it from the 1400 odd it used to be. Intra-business billing ftw.

As for the rest of it, I couldn't say. Though I can say that Markee Dragon, at least for most affiliates, pays through paypal. And if you want to take any significant quantity of money out of paypal, you're going to be registered as a business with them.


The website itself, well, I'd be surprised if it's registered as a business. As it, itself, doesn't make any money. All the money comes from affiliate payments, direct to Somer. Who should be paying income tax, as with any payment, on it.

Must say it's unusual quiet from their side atm though, usually they respond to all kind of omg-scam and whatnot threads created about them...

/c

I like that 'that is not hosted offshore' restriction. Also the 'reputable', which is fairly easy for you to discount anything you want to.

Because you'll find that most online gambling isn't hosted in the US, because your laws aren't conducive to it.

But looking a a few (ignoring that restriction) I find FULLTILTPOKER.COM uses it, for example.


Totally aside from that, you're comparing a full up business, with something run by (real world side) one person.

Must say it's unusual quiet from their side atm though, usually they respond to all kind of omg-scam and whatnot threads created about them...

/c

You know when it all goes **** up when even chribba ia questioning the current methods of CCP

Not posting with my main because reasons.