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Mens Barviainen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:46:00 -
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Not posting with my main because reasons. 
The question is: has SomerBLINK ever had its systems reviewed by a reputable source?
With any sort of gambling institution, the whole point is to fleece users of their hard-earned geld. To ensure that the game isn't too rigged, machines, programs, and rules are certified by third-party organizations (often run by the state) to ensure that the fleecing occurs above-board as a take, rake, or probable loss rate, as opposed to by some sort of cheating by the machine that the user can't be aware of.
SomerBLINK, to my knowledge, doesn't have any sort of certification. This in itself isn't grounds for suspicion.
Now, the issue: when I first started BLINKing, I bought some GTCs because, hey, it was a way to get BLINK credit without necessarily draining my wallet in-game, and I needed to re-up my subscription anyway. I then proceeded to play BLINKs and promo.blinks. I saw a guy in one of the BLINK channels joke that he'd had a good week, and had been told 'You'll win three promos, and never again.'
Then I won three Promos in fairly rapid succession (I'm on fire! Woo!), and then realized that I'd made out like a dog. A while later, I had more expensive projects, and GTCed up to fund those projects. Lo and behold, I made out like a dog, and won three Promos at a pretty rapid rate. And since then, I've been using those tokens they give you for promo blinks for weeks, a month, and I haven't had a single promo win since, despite many hundreds of promos having been played.
I'm sure I'm just not getting lucky, but here's the problem: it makes sense for SOMER Blink to hook people who buy GTCs especially, because they give SomerBLINK actual money. Could it be that people who buy GTCs, or donate lots of ISK get their odds for promos or wins bumped, so that they get hooked? Because let's face it. If you gamble and lose, you go away. If you gamble and win, you keep gambling-- and keep gambling, and keep gambling.
And SomerBLINK wants to hook people who are willing to buy GTCs, because that's how they make their living.
Has SomerBLINK had its code certified? Is SomerBLINK cheating to hook people willing to buy GTCs? |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
6698
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:48:00 -
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No, Yes, and see the entire front page in GD.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4997
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:52:00 -
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Pretty sure ccp has said they are a good honest group you should feel proud to give your credits gained from paying for a gtc through them to There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
2291
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:54:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Pretty sure ccp has said they are a good honest group you should feel proud to give your credits gained from paying for a gtc through them to The IRL equivalent to this is the US government giving weapons manufacturers or PMCs tax breaks because of their excellent community work. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1088
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:55:00 -
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Blink staff like to link to http://cogdev.net/blink/roll_winner.php but of course you have no way to verify that this is actually the code that is being executed on the site.
To my knowledge there hasn't been any independent audit. |

Frying Doom
2914
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:55:00 -
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I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standards. For example
VIADEN wrote:Panama has no information exchange agreements with other countries. That means that an official letter from the tax office in your country to any of Panamanian banks or government agencies will fail to produce the result. In most of cases, such a letter will remain unanswered. That is what is meant with sovereign country. Panama is independent and unlimited by any other country. It has its own government and is not subject to another power. Source: http://www.viaden.com/products/panama_license.html Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5001
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:57:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Pretty sure ccp has said they are a good honest group you should feel proud to give your credits gained from paying for a gtc through them to The IRL equivalent to this is the US government giving weapons manufacturers or PMCs tax breaks because of their excellent community work. No, it's god themselves giving you otherwise unproduceable relics There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5001
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:58:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standards. For example VIADEN wrote:Panama has no information exchange agreements with other countries. That means that an official letter from the tax office in your country to any of Panamanian banks or government agencies will fail to produce the result. In most of cases, such a letter will remain unanswered. That is what is meant with sovereign country. Panama is independent and unlimited by any other country. It has its own government and is not subject to another power. Source: http://www.viaden.com/products/panama_license.html Is that how they avoid taxes... huh. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
454
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:00:00 -
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Even if they let you review their code, how would you be able to verify that's the same code that is actually running?
Also probability... |

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
690
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:03:00 -
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Mens Barviainen wrote:Not posting with my main because reasons.  The question is: has SomerBLINK ever had its systems reviewed by a reputable source? With any sort of gambling institution, the whole point is to fleece users of their hard-earned geld.
Why didn't you just stop there?
Because the whole point of any gambling institution is to fleece it's marks of their cash.
There's nothing more to it, it haver never been and will never be.
Why bother with what methods they use? CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
513
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:04:00 -
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Please stop. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Frying Doom
2917
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:04:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standards. For example VIADEN wrote:Panama has no information exchange agreements with other countries. That means that an official letter from the tax office in your country to any of Panamanian banks or government agencies will fail to produce the result. In most of cases, such a letter will remain unanswered. That is what is meant with sovereign country. Panama is independent and unlimited by any other country. It has its own government and is not subject to another power. Source: http://www.viaden.com/products/panama_license.html Is that how they avoid taxes... huh.
VIADEN wrote:Internet gaming companies domiciled in Panama enjoy complete tax exemptions. Customs duty concessions are given for imports needed to carry on Internet gaming. As long as the income made from Internet operations is to jurisdictions outside of Panama, there is no income tax, withholding tax, sales tax or VAT tax. Lovely company for CCP to get into bed with. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5006
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:09:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standards. For example VIADEN wrote:Panama has no information exchange agreements with other countries. That means that an official letter from the tax office in your country to any of Panamanian banks or government agencies will fail to produce the result. In most of cases, such a letter will remain unanswered. That is what is meant with sovereign country. Panama is independent and unlimited by any other country. It has its own government and is not subject to another power. Source: http://www.viaden.com/products/panama_license.html Is that how they avoid taxes... huh. VIADEN wrote:Internet gaming companies domiciled in Panama enjoy complete tax exemptions. Customs duty concessions are given for imports needed to carry on Internet gaming. As long as the income made from Internet operations is to jurisdictions outside of Panama, there is no income tax, withholding tax, sales tax or VAT tax. Lovely company for CCP to get into bed with. Oh, it's one of those tax haven places. Not bad. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Mens Barviainen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:15:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote: Also probability...
Except that I saw a guy win two 1/300 promo.blinks in the AU TZ in a row, a 1/90000 occurrence, and then he won a 1/500 promo.blink for 3x hulks about twelve hours later.
Promo.blinks seem awfully streaky. |

Thead Enco
III Legion
7
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:16:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standards. For example VIADEN wrote:Panama has no information exchange agreements with other countries. That means that an official letter from the tax office in your country to any of Panamanian banks or government agencies will fail to produce the result. In most of cases, such a letter will remain unanswered. That is what is meant with sovereign country. Panama is independent and unlimited by any other country. It has its own government and is not subject to another power. Source: http://www.viaden.com/products/panama_license.html
Well they did stop a North Korean freighter filled with old soviet missle tech being smuggled thru the Panama Canal. |

Leigh Akiga
State War Academy Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:20:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standardsl
Ah but the owner and operator (Somerset Mahm) is an American living and working in America. I wonder if they declared that 130k or if its housed in some offshore account. The whole thing is creepy and seedy and it stinks that CCP got sucked into it.
Get this crap outta my fake internet spaceship universe |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3139
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:24:00 -
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Somer has as much right to scam stupid players as any of the other thousands of people jealous of his success.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Leigh Akiga
State War Academy Caldari State
286
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:27:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Somer has as much right to scam stupid players as any of the other thousands of people jealous of his success. Mr Epeen 
The real life connotation- as in real life dollars from being an ETC affiliate is what people are having a problem with sir..
Are you saying Somer has the right to be a scammer IRL as well? |

Embarased for You
Oooooo Burn
0
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:27:00 -
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ITT - people who don't understand cloud computing, and think the node they ping from their location is where a business is located.
User name relevant. |

Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
207
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:34:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standardsl Ah but the owner and operator (Somerset Mahm) is an American living and working in America. I wonder if they declared that 130k or if its housed in some offshore account. The whole thing is creepy and seedy and it stinks that CCP got sucked into it. Get this crap outta my fake internet spaceship universe I have to admit, that part does look pretty shady and is interesting if true. I personally would do the same thing though. I'd let the Panamanians have it before I'd give a dime to Barry Soetoro. The location of their servers doesn't necessarily imply wrong-doing, although when taken with all the other stuff recently disclosed, it does add up for bad publicity for Somer. It would be helpful if they would give us a public statement concerning these matters. |

Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
176
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:53:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Somer has as much right to scam stupid players as any of the other thousands of people jealous of his success. Mr Epeen  The real life connotation- as in real life dollars from being an ETC affiliate is what people are having a problem with sir.. Are you saying Somer has the right to be a scammer IRL as well?
If you take it that way, could you call call the FBI over a Jita scammer if you lost a RL bought plex worth of isk? I'm sure most of the Scams run are illegal in the real world.
I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service. |

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
690
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:57:00 -
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Embarased for You wrote:ITT - people who don't understand cloud computing, and think the node they ping from their location is where a business is located.
User name relevant. And this is relevant how?
Given how it could have been to track down the people involved. CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
690
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:08:00 -
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Seriously, there are people who really believe that there are honest gambling companies?
What kind of rock have you been living under for the last 300 years?
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:12:00 -
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Mens Barviainen wrote:Karak Terrel wrote: Also probability...
Except that I saw a guy win two 1/300 promo.blinks in the AU TZ in a row, a 1/90000 occurrence, and then he won a 1/500 promo.blink for 3x hulks about twelve hours later. Promo.blinks seem awfully streaky. Improbable is not the same as impossible. This things simply happen and you can't deduce if a system with ~400 tickets is rigged or not simply by watching a few hundred draws. |

Rhatar Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
281
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:14:00 -
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Panama eh?
Sorry i have nothing.. .
they make hats or something?..... |

Mens Barviainen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:14:00 -
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Which is why I ask, Karak; because it seemed like an odd series of coincidences, and knowing if SomerBLINK had allowed any independent audits... |

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:17:00 -
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Embarased for You wrote:ITT - people who don't understand cloud computing, and think the node they ping from their location is where a business is located.
User name relevant. I hear there are even people who don't know the difference between ping and whois |

Frying Doom
2921
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:30:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:Leigh Akiga wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standardsl Ah but the owner and operator (Somerset Mahm) is an American living and working in America. I wonder if they declared that 130k or if its housed in some offshore account. The whole thing is creepy and seedy and it stinks that CCP got sucked into it. Get this crap outta my fake internet spaceship universe I have to admit, that part does look pretty shady and is interesting if true. I personally would do the same thing though. I'd let the Panamanians have it before I'd give a dime to Barry Soetoro. The location of their servers doesn't necessarily imply wrong-doing, although when taken with all the other stuff recently disclosed, it does add up for bad publicity for Somer. It would be helpful if they would give us a public statement concerning these matters. The who is data on COGDEV.NET
Domain Name: COGDEV.NET Creation Date: 2010-09-21 20:09:00Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-09-21 20:09:00Z Registrar: ENOM, INC. Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC. Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411 Registrant City: PANAMA Registrant State/Province: PANAMA Registrant Postal Code: NA Registrant Country: PA Admin Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED Admin Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC. Admin Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411 Admin City: PANAMA Admin State/Province: PANAMA Admin Postal Code: NA Admin Country: PA Admin Phone: +507.8365503 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +51.17057182 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: Email Masking [email protected] Tech Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED Tech Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC. Tech Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411 Tech City: PANAMA Tech State/Province: PANAMA Tech Postal Code: NA Tech Country: PA Tech Phone: +507.8365503 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +51.17057182 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: Email Masking [email protected] Name Server: ART.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM Name Server: LILY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Also note Cloud Flare
Cloud Flare wrote:CloudFlare protects and accelerates any website online. Once your website is a part of the CloudFlare community, its web traffic is routed through our intelligent global network. We automatically optimize the delivery of your web pages so your visitors get the fastest page load times and best performance. We also block threats and limit abusive bots and crawlers from wasting your bandwidth and server resources. The result: CloudFlare-powered websites see a significant improvement in performance and a decrease in spam and other attacks. It also prevents people determining your servers location via a who is look up.
Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
454
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:30:00 -
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Mens Barviainen wrote:Which is why I ask, Karak; because it seemed like an odd series of coincidences. Well, that's what gambling is isn't it? People get confused by this things all the time, that's why we have to use math to find out if something is rigged or not. I mean people even get confused about randomizers im mp3 players because all it takes are a few tracks that repeat in a short amount of time and they think it's not random. They had to change the implementation and are now no longer true random, because people complained. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5008
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:38:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:Leigh Akiga wrote:Frying Doom wrote:I think the best answer is that http://cogdev.net Somers site is registered in Panama, a place with such wonderfully strict laws and high standardsl Ah but the owner and operator (Somerset Mahm) is an American living and working in America. I wonder if they declared that 130k or if its housed in some offshore account. The whole thing is creepy and seedy and it stinks that CCP got sucked into it. Get this crap outta my fake internet spaceship universe I have to admit, that part does look pretty shady and is interesting if true. I personally would do the same thing though. I'd let the Panamanians have it before I'd give a dime to Barry Soetoro. The location of their servers doesn't necessarily imply wrong-doing, although when taken with all the other stuff recently disclosed, it does add up for bad publicity for Somer. It would be helpful if they would give us a public statement concerning these matters. The who is data on COGDEV.NET Domain Name: COGDEV.NET Creation Date: 2010-09-21 20:09:00Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-09-21 20:09:00Z Registrar: ENOM, INC. Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC. Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411 Registrant City: PANAMA Registrant State/Province: PANAMA Registrant Postal Code: NA Registrant Country: PA Admin Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED Admin Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC. Admin Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411 Admin City: PANAMA Admin State/Province: PANAMA Admin Postal Code: NA Admin Country: PA Admin Phone: +507.8365503 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +51.17057182 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: Email Masking [email protected]Tech Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED Tech Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC. Tech Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411 Tech City: PANAMA Tech State/Province: PANAMA Tech Postal Code: NA Tech Country: PA Tech Phone: +507.8365503 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +51.17057182 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: Email Masking [email protected]Name Server: ART.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM Name Server: LILY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM Also note Cloud Flare Cloud Flare wrote:CloudFlare protects and accelerates any website online. Once your website is a part of the CloudFlare community, its web traffic is routed through our intelligent global network. We automatically optimize the delivery of your web pages so your visitors get the fastest page load times and best performance. We also block threats and limit abusive bots and crawlers from wasting your bandwidth and server resources. The result: CloudFlare-powered websites see a significant improvement in performance and a decrease in spam and other attacks. It also prevents people determining your servers location via a who is look up. Not bad. They've thought it through thoroughly. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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