I don't know about you but I thought this update was spot-on on the upcoming expansion. Sheesh. What have I been paying for with my subscription money?

Relax, I'm sure if anything is OP it will be adjuste...












In 5 years (CCP years)

Regarding Game Design:

Passive Income Streams should be the mopst at-risk income stream to active player intervention. The more active you (the owner) are, the less at-risk your income stream should be. Fully active income streams in EVE are actually the most dangerous/risky way to isk, as death from other pilots is always a concern outside High-Sec.

So while I think people appreciate that POS management is hard, POS owners should also realize that it's a mostly passive activity. Unlike Plex'ing, Ratting, Exploration of PvP, POS Operation does not require a direct one-for-one injection of time/effort -> isk.

In my view, POS's and Planetary Interaction should be the most easy isk-streams to interupt, steal from, disturb, disrupt, etc. The counter is that game design should create elements where additional active work on that stream meaningfully reduces the risk posed to it if it was left purely passive.

I believe this design meets that challenge.

If you want full income from your POS, a Corporate/Alliance level asset, you'll need to monitor it yourself more actively, or encourage your Corp/Alliance to actively police the space in which it lives/operates POS's.

Clearly, the most at-risk POS's here will be those of AFK Empires and AFK players who pop in once to fuel, then pop out again. And thats as it should be.

All of these factors should result in smaller empires and more policed Nullsec Space, opening opportunitires for renters/new nullsec holder, and promoting more PvP conflict as Alliances work to defend their lived-in space from raiders.

Funny how certain entities are upset they will have to watch their POS, where they will actually have to worry about their profits now. I for one think it's a pleasant idea. Will be fun to deploy them just to mess with people. Cloaky ships, small m3... nice. Now it's the small corps chance to grief the larger entities in game

Given that we have a Like button, can we also have a 'This is just stupid' button as well?

Goons keep trying to say that this hurts them less than other small corps/alliances, I don't see how since the larger alliances are the biggest target for this they're the ones with moon goo and mining ops.. now that everyone can drop a siphon it's become a threat to.. well everyone.

Honestly I wouldn't worry about your cadmium or caesium moons. Running the numbers as they currently are, it would take 2+ days of operation just for a single siphon to break even. No one's going to bother, at least not after the initial rush to try the new Rubicon features wears off.

Siphoning dyspro moons, on the other hand, becomes profitable after a matter of hours. And that's on a per siphon basis, you can make a pretty considerable bank from siphoning a few dyspro moons for just under a day. With a handful of siphons on the right moons, you could easily clear a few hundred mil a day, and that assumes regular loss of siphon units.

It's been explained to you at least a dozen times that Goonswarm Federation and other very large entities have the manpower and the timezone coverage to both deploy siphons on enemy moons and monitor their own moons effectively for siphon activity, while smaller groups do not.

Please explain which part you don't understand yet.

And more like a patch than an expansion. They should have called it

EvE: Sorry We Are Working on other Projects.

Because you have plenty of empty conquered systems even now, larger alliances in null make them a much more rich target for siphons and disrupting low sec operations won't cause the prices to rise as much as disrupting the larger ones in null

i don't think anybody realistically thinks anything can dislodge the largest entities rusted into their blue donut, but tiny groups, even solo pilots will be able to mess with much larger organisations.
Tumultuous radical change is attractive to people without ideas, being able to pick a few holes in nullsec by interrupting stuff is a great idea. The fact that any idea can be abused and always benefits the already rich is incidental and not worth posting about.

Yeah okay I see why you don't understand now

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So disrupting low operations raises prices more than disrupting larger, more profitable operations?

It's been explained to you at least a dozen times that Goonswarm Federation and other very large entities have the manpower and the timezone coverage to both deploy siphons on enemy moons and monitor their own moons effectively for siphon activity, while smaller groups do not.

Please explain which part you don't understand yet.

Actually, large alliances that get stolen from have their moongoo become more valuable by the fact that less moongoo can reach the market.

Surely no one would take advantage of that, though. Surely.

It's been explained to you at least a dozen times that Goonswarm Federation and other very large entities have the manpower and the timezone coverage to both deploy siphons on enemy moons and monitor their own moons effectively for siphon activity, while smaller groups do not.

Please explain which part you don't understand yet.