Kittens

I love the humor... but the answer is not acceptable.

CCP Falcon wrote:

Schmata Bastanold wrote:

Care to reveal what was in that mystery patch?

Kittens

This is like CCP of 2010 during the non-documentation era to which they recovered but now seem to be going back to their bad habit. Come on CCP you made progress in communicating, DON'T GO BACKWARDS.

Swear down if there are kittens in my captains quarters I'm never boarding my ship ever again!

Another patch

No documentation (feeling like 2010)

No complaints?

Ah... that's why they wanted the new Launcher, so the players would not notice or become tired of these little patches.

I believe by clicking play you accept the EULA. Somewhere in the EULA it says CCP can modify their software when they want to, with or without notification.

Another patch

No documentation (feeling like 2010)

No complaints?

Ah... that's why they wanted the new Launcher, so the players would not notice or become tired of these little patches.

I know, right!

For those few people who were upset that there weren't actually any kittens included (we decided to keep them all in the office because they were so cute), I can offer another explanation.

When we put out tiny patches like this, they are of course documented internally, but if they're small back end fixes and optimizations that provide no change in gameplay then no patch notes are provided.

When we put out tiny patches like this, they are of course documented internally, but if they're small back end fixes and optimizations that provide no change in gameplay then no patch notes are provided.

you crazy?

READING EULA????

Heh.

Some of us know at least one of the reasons behind the patch. If you do a little research, you may find out.

That change isn't one which affects you directly. Just architecture work.

I love the humor... but the answer is not acceptable.





This is like CCP of 2010 during the non-documentation era to which they recovered but now seem to be going back to their bad habit. Come on CCP you made progress in communicating, DON'T GO BACKWARDS.

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And I may add that there was other stuff in the patch, but none of it you guys will ever see, because they are all internal changes.

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[Falcon, maybe a silly suggestion, but in cases like this, a 'patch note' with a single line saying 'backend stuff improved' would help greatly, because even if it's a 'non patch' patch, where nothing gets changed that directly concerns players, having a note telling them nothing has changed for them would be very communicative ;)

What? Are you saying that every single eve player is locked out from applying to CCP for a job?

So dear sir, the answer is simply:

Patch #xxxx-xxx Small back end fixes and optimizations that provide no change in gameplay.

or

Patch #xxxx-xxx Updates for Dust514 back end fixes and optimizations.


Because that is better than nothing and for those of us that keeps tabs on the game, patches, and all then (AS CCP SAYS) we are vested partners in this process. Please don't defend a non-documentation "it's minor" policy!!!

'backend stuff improved'

And I may add that there was other stuff in the patch, but none of it you guys will ever see, because they are all internal changes.

It's anything but a silly suggestion but it comes down to CCP doing some sort of communication and from where I sit it looks like we're back pre-incarna and communication being in the same sentence with CCP equals to an oxymoron.

Take for example this thread, a question about CCP promising 10 year old vets a station of their own:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=284509
CCP responses to that, zero.zero and it was not the first time there was a polite inquiry to this fanfest promise with no response.

Another example is a two year old thread in the Macintosh section which hasn't seen a dev response in over a year
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1533341#post1533341
And if one of the posters is right CCP isn't even spending any time at fixing this 2 year problem simply since there is no-one put on the Mac client.

And I can go on but why bother, no one cares at CCP at the moment.

We're hiring, by the way

Just out of curiosity, anything C++ related?

Looking at the list(http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs), it doesn't seem like it.

Uh... how about this one...

http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs/job-details.aspx?jobid=470

Nope, if you join, then of course you'll get to see it.

We're hiring, by the way

"Internal changes and improvements".

I know, right!

For those few people who were upset that there weren't actually any kittens included (we decided to keep them all in the office because they were so cute), I can offer another explanation.

When we put out tiny patches like this, they are of course documented internally, but if they're small back end fixes and optimizations that provide no change in gameplay then no patch notes are provided.

I know, right!

For those few people who were upset that there weren't actually any kittens included (we decided to keep them all in the office because they were so cute), I can offer another explanation.

When we put out tiny patches like this, they are of course documented internally, but if they're small back end fixes and optimizations that provide no change in gameplay then no patch notes are provided.

I know, right!

For those few people who were upset that there weren't actually any kittens included (we decided to keep them all in the office because they were so cute), I can offer another explanation.

When we put out tiny patches like this, they are of course documented internally, but if they're small back end fixes and optimizations that provide no change in gameplay then no patch notes are provided.

I know, right!

For those few people who were upset that there weren't actually any kittens included (we decided to keep them all in the office because they were so cute), I can offer another explanation.

When we put out tiny patches like this, they are of course documented internally, but if they're small back end fixes and optimizations that provide no change in gameplay then no patch notes are provided.

Mind you, we patch several times a week. Most of the time it's never noticeable unless a mistake is made. Most often it's just tiny fixes and internal tooling improvements. If we put out patch-notes for that every time, you could get weeks with 3 patch-notes that just say "Internal changes and improvements".

And what would be wrong with that?

At least we would know that there's nothing for us to worry about.

Do it.

Entitled much?

I'm amazed at how tolerant CCP devs are towards people like you. It's their game, their code, their hardware... They don't owe you jack **** for explanation. Hth.

For those few people who were upset that there weren't actually any kittens included (we decided to keep them all in the office because they were so cute), I can offer another explanation.

When we put out tiny patches like this, they are of course documented internally, but if they're small back end fixes and optimizations that provide no change in gameplay then no patch notes are provided.

I believe by clicking play you accept the EULA. Somewhere in the EULA it says CCP can modify their software when they want to, with or without notification.

The fact that people accept EULA doesn't mean that they don't hope for CCP's good will to provide a little more than minimum.

Another patch

No documentation (feeling like 2010)

No complaints?

Ah... that's why they wanted the new Launcher, so the players would not notice or become tired of these little patches.

I just assume CCP is giving Somer stuff when these type of patches are released.

And I may add that there was other stuff in the patch, but none of it you guys will ever see, because they are all internal changes.

Mind you, we patch several times a week. Most of the time it's never noticeable unless a mistake is made. Most often it's just tiny fixes and internal tooling improvements. If we put out patch-notes for that every time, you could get weeks with 3 patch-notes that just say "Internal changes and improvements".

Nope, if you join, then of course you'll get to see it.

We're hiring, by the way

I believe by clicking play you accept the EULA. Somewhere in the EULA it says CCP can modify their software when they want to, with or without notification.