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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
533
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Posted - 2013.10.31 05:55:00 -
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polly papercut wrote:Now going by the definition of the word expansion, it would seem to me that all these free "expansions" are nothing but revamps. ex-+pan-+sion noun 1. the action of becoming larger or more extensive. There have been a few actual expansions but mostly we see just revamps.. I think CCP needs to come out with an real expansion that opens up new parts of space. adds a new class of ship. And a new types of PVE/PVP content.. and would you be willing to Pay for an Expansion? Give feed back and vote. http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=52716b57e4b0b3a338520f46
Someone asks this question every few months. The answer is always no.
CCP even says they don't want to make us pay for expansions.
/thread, forever. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2778
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Posted - 2013.10.31 05:56:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Which everyone can afford cuz no-one that plays EVE is on a low income.
/Sarcasm CCP addressed this well with the optimization settings imho. I only build a serious high-power system every 5 years or so. Never had a problem.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9920
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:22:00 -
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We already do, but no I wouldn't be interested in paying for an expansion, that would suddenly divide this one shard universe really. Suddenly there would possibly be pilots unable to fly to some place, or not use a range of ships/modules because they didn't pay for the expansion.
I really dislike that idea. The current model of a monthly sub that includes the expansions are way more suitable for the good of the game imo.
/c
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Kate stark
777
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:24:00 -
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depends on price, and depends on what content i can't access if i don't pay.
if i didn't buy rubicon would i no longer be able to fly interceptors even though i can now? etc. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2778
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:35:00 -
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Chribba wrote:We already do, but no I wouldn't be interested in paying for an expansion, that would suddenly divide this one shard universe really. Suddenly there would possibly be pilots unable to fly to some place, or not use a range of ships/modules because they didn't pay for the expansion.
I really dislike that idea. The current model of a monthly sub that includes the expansions are way more suitable for the good of the game imo.
/c Nice vest.
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Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
192
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:47:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:depends on price, and depends on what content i can't access if i don't pay.
if i didn't buy rubicon would i no longer be able to fly interceptors even though i can now? etc.
I would pay that you cant. |
Radamant Nemess
Caribbean Coke Enterprises
21
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Posted - 2013.10.31 08:56:00 -
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If there was some MAJOR new thing like another (alien) race or another (new) galaxy or something similarly earthshaking i would pay. i can fail at any speed you like |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1231
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Posted - 2013.10.31 09:06:00 -
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I think our understanding of what EVE is seems to be the issue. My view is that EVE online is the core subscription game and CCP are patching it every 6 months or so. CCP are also expanding EVE:
Dust is an expansion you pay for. Valkyrie is an expansion you pay for.
I'd pay to play Valkyrie so I suppose my answer is yes but I can't vote owing to the limited way you've configured your voting options. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
221
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Posted - 2013.10.31 09:11:00 -
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if you can plex a expansion im willing to do that The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1587
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Posted - 2013.10.31 09:13:00 -
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Chribba wrote:We already do, but no I wouldn't be interested in paying for an expansion, that would suddenly divide this one shard universe really. Suddenly there would possibly be pilots unable to fly to some place, or not use a range of ships/modules because they didn't pay for the expansion.
I really dislike that idea. The current model of a monthly sub that includes the expansions are way more suitable for the good of the game imo.
/c What he said.
Either you make purchasing the expansions mandatory, but then you are just increasing subscription fees but charging them twice a year.
Or you split the universe into people who have the expansion and those who don't, and I don't even have an idea how that would work. |
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Xia Kairui
United System's Commonwealth
65
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Posted - 2013.10.31 09:18:00 -
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If there was real content in the expansion I might be tempted, but for those slightly-larger-than-patches things that are called "expansion" now I wouldn't pay more than I already do with my subscription. And as others have said before, anything that creates a rift between the players that paid and those that don't is Teh Bad.
Imagine this error message: "Sorry, you cannot jump through this gate after the ship you had tackled since you haven't got the 'Go To Jove' expansion. Sucks to be you." |
polly papercut
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.10.31 09:21:00 -
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Xia Kairui wrote:If there was real content in the expansion I might be tempted, but for those slightly-larger-than-patches things that are called "expansion" now I wouldn't pay more than I already do with my subscription. And as others have said before, anything that creates a rift between the players that paid and those that don't is Teh Bad.
Imagine this error message: "Sorry, you cannot jump through this gate after the ship you had tackled since you haven't got the 'Go To Jove' expansion. Sucks to be you." Simple fix 3 plex or $39.99 |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
258
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:02:00 -
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nope, and especially not for expansions which reflect a consolidation phase of eve development. if they want to keep the tradition of calling these updates expansions and marketing them as such I don't really care as I don't pay for them, but it's obvious to me that interim patches do pretty much the same thing but to a lesser extent, such as rolling out GUI changes and ship balancing etc. freelance space bum |
Winter Archipelago
Innocuous Infection
137
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:28:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:No, but if they had a kickstarter for walking in stations I might donate.
I don't see why CCP can't do what Chris Roberts is doing. Seems to work for him. Given the vast amounts of money they wasted on Incarna, where we got a room and melted video cards. Would you honestly trust them not to just blow the money a second time? As to would I pay for expansions: No, not with what they have called an expansion for the last 2 years. To be fair, with Incarna, they had to create the system from the ground, up. Theoretically, the most difficult part of WiS was the actual 'Walking' part. Everything after that should just be creating new spaces which, as more resource blocks are created and can be reused, will become cheaper. After that, the primary cost will be creating the content and events, which (theoretically) shouldn't be nearly as expensive. Ransoms are accepted in Isk, Ships, Mods, and Dolls. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:58:00 -
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Winter Archipelago wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:No, but if they had a kickstarter for walking in stations I might donate.
I don't see why CCP can't do what Chris Roberts is doing. Seems to work for him. Given the vast amounts of money they wasted on Incarna, where we got a room and melted video cards. Would you honestly trust them not to just blow the money a second time? As to would I pay for expansions: No, not with what they have called an expansion for the last 2 years. To be fair... ...Theoretically, the most difficult part... ...Everything after that should just be... ...which (theoretically) shouldn't be nearly as expensive.
Unfortunately, we are talking about CCP here, so I wouldn't hold to any theories about how things should have been done as being remotely accurate.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
111
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Posted - 2013.10.31 11:39:00 -
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Bear with me while I bring up the dreaded "WoW" word. Every 24 months more or less, they release an expansion which costs money. It has content: usually new zones, new PvE, new playable races or classes, etc. In the interim they release patches, big and small. Some patches are as big as EVE "expansions" and put in new content and class rebalancing.
I would pay for an EVE expansion that was as substantial as a World of Warcraft expansion. I would pay upwards of $50-$60 for new constellations to explore and conquer, new missions to run, new complexes and escalations, etc. Currently, EVE's expansions are just large, twice-yearly patches.
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Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
194
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Posted - 2013.10.31 11:44:00 -
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I wouldn't pay for an expansion, but I wouldn't be opposed to having some kind of crowdfunding platform for things like new server nodes. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1588
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Posted - 2013.10.31 11:53:00 -
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Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:Bear with me while I bring up the dreaded "WoW" word. Every 24 months more or less, they release an expansion which costs money. It has content: usually new zones, new PvE, new playable races or classes, etc. In the interim they release patches, big and small. Some patches are as big as EVE "expansions" and put in new content and class rebalancing.
I would pay for an EVE expansion that was as substantial as a World of Warcraft expansion. I would pay upwards of $50-$60 for new constellations to explore and conquer, new missions to run, new complexes and escalations, etc. Currently, EVE's expansions are just large, twice-yearly patches. I think this is the biggest problem. Everyone knows what to expect from a WoW expansion: more zones, more mobs, more raids, more items. That is what all of the WoW community wants from an expansion. However the EVE playerbase is so varied - from highsec miners to mission runners to explorers to lowsec pirates to wormhole dwellers and nullsec empires - that making an expansion of content that would please everybody would take years of developer time. And if you cater only to one group, everybody else will rightfully refuse to pay for what is to them an useless feature.
I don't give a damn about new regions, new missions, new NPCs. On the other hand I would pay money for an expansion focusing on revamping the sov system, better corporation and alliance management tools, ship balance, etc. That doesn't mean that my opinion is right and yours is wrong - we are both just looking for different things in the game. |
baltec1
Bat Country
8392
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:30:00 -
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A WoW expansion will last about a month at best. The last few EVE expansions have produced more pvp content than the ground pounders in WoW can dream for. |
Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
203
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:40:00 -
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Would I pay for an expansion? No.
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Would I pay for an eve expansion?
No.
Eve is not a game where you can really exclude pieces of content from a player because they don't have a expansion.
For instance....
You cannot enter wormhole space because you did not buy the wormhole expansion.
Now would you buy the expansion to experience wormhole space??????
CCP's expansions aren't expansions, there enhancements. There built to improve the experience of the entire game for the entire community, without restrictions.
Most expansions of other games are merely moneygrabs. We've added in 10 levels.. If you want to continue endgame content, give us 40 dollars.
The issues you run into is power creep, cause now all the old equipment is useless, those who bought the expansion are 10x more powerful, and your setting barriers for people who want to enjoy a game without doing a micro transaction every 3 months.
In addition, the moment a game developer releases an expansion that is deemed garbage by the community, you lose virtually the entire community. They've paid for garbage, got garbage, and would rather leave than pay money for another piece of expansion garbage
Now CCP has released some crappy expansion. If they charged people for it , they would have gone out of business due to subscription loss. Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:15:00 -
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no, i supported this game on and off for a few years because of the structure and integrity this game has even with the t20. EA ideas and ethoses(even a word?) should stay at EA imo. |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:20:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:A WoW expansion will last about a month at best. The last few EVE expansions have produced more pvp content than the ground pounders in WoW can dream for.
they lost their way a long long time ago. still a great game as the numbers tell. i have a sub active that i cant use after certain times. shamefull. if they cant regulate themselves someone should do it for them |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
771
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:28:00 -
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polly papercut wrote:Now going by the definition of the word expansion, it would seem to me that all these free "expansions" are nothing but revamps. ex-+pan-+sion noun 1. the action of becoming larger or more extensive. There have been a few actual expansions but mostly we see just revamps.. I think CCP needs to come out with an real expansion that opens up new parts of space. adds a new class of ship. And a new types of PVE/PVP content.. and would you be willing to Pay for an Expansion? Give feed back and vote. http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=52716b57e4b0b3a338520f46
The real question is, do you honestly believe CCP will take your money and give you an actual expansion?
I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:32:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:polly papercut wrote:Now going by the definition of the word expansion, it would seem to me that all these free "expansions" are nothing but revamps. ex-+pan-+sion noun 1. the action of becoming larger or more extensive. There have been a few actual expansions but mostly we see just revamps.. I think CCP needs to come out with an real expansion that opens up new parts of space. adds a new class of ship. And a new types of PVE/PVP content.. and would you be willing to Pay for an Expansion? Give feed back and vote. http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=52716b57e4b0b3a338520f46 The real question is, do you honestly believe CCP will take your money and give you an actual expansion?
looking from that rifter vid , no. fookin hell gime a job so i can sit around all day doing **** all ;) |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
6762
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:45:00 -
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The greatest flaw is OPs survey is that he/she believes that forums warriors represent an accurate cross-section of Eve players.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
polly papercut
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.11.01 05:53:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:The greatest flaw is OPs survey is that he/she believes that forums warriors represent an accurate cross-section of Eve players.
But you presume to know what they would vote. It could be completely in the other direction and they could all want a full on expansion. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1352
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Posted - 2013.11.01 06:37:00 -
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Why would I pay for something that's been free for so long? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
To Be Me
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.11.01 06:40:00 -
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I would pay for an EXPANSION.. I would NOT pay for patches and fixes.
Im still waiting for the first eveonline expansion. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3383
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Posted - 2013.11.01 06:54:00 -
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To Be Me wrote:I would pay for an EXPANSION.. I would NOT pay for patches and fixes..
Good thing then you're getting them all free!
Quote:Im still waiting for the first eveonline expansion.
Ah, I guess you're a new player. We even have one slated for November 19th called Rubicon! And it's free too!
The rest of the expansions you missed are : 1.1 Castor 1.2 Exodus 1.3 Exodus: Cold War 1.4 Exodus: Red Moon Rising 1.5 Bloodlines 1.6 Revelations I 1.7 Revelations II 1.8 Trinity 1.9 Empyrean Age 1.10 Quantum Rise 1.11 Apocrypha 1.12 Dominion 1.13 Tyrannis 1.14 Incursion 1.15 Incarna 1.16 Crucible 1.17 Inferno 1.18 Retribution 1.19 Odyssey
Hope that helped! |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
12261
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Posted - 2013.11.01 07:03:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:No, but if they had a kickstarter for walking in stations I might donate.
I don't see why CCP can't do what Chris Roberts is doing. Seems to work for him.
Incarna as a "daughter" game is probably the best way forward at this point. Make it optional, give it a funding source that doesn't cut into EVE development money, see how popular it really it. I'd kick in a few quid on the off chance.
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