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Franseza Quiniou Elusenian Cooperative 2	Posted - 2013.10.30 21:27:00 - [1] - Quote The Director of Education along with the Rector of the University of Elusenia have jointly announced a student exchange programme to take place between the Cooperative Republic of Elusenia on Vale IV and the Duchy of Palas on Palas VIII. Twenty students, ten from each state, will spend the equivalent of two semesters in the respective foreign institutions, either the University of Elusenia in central Eluseny or the Ducal Seminary for the Propagation of Faith 'Armani I' in the White City (officially known as Armaniyye). Applications are already open for Elusenian students, and competition appears fierce amongst the candidates. Unconfirmed reports are abound that Duchess Odelya d'Hanguest, head of state of Armaniyye, facilitated the deal personally. The Palasian students will be immersed in religious studies from the Gallente perspective, analyzing various belief systems as well as the Amarr faith itself in a secular and sociological light. In contrast, the Elusenian students will share classes with priests in training, instructed by clerics of the Duchy. While the ten Elusenian students will be housed in an endowed property in the White City, their Palasian counterparts will abode with the rest of the student body in campus dormitories. A Palasian priest will also reside in private accommodation on campus to provide to the exchange students' religious requirements. He is rumoured to be close to the Order of Tetrimon, though this is unlikely to be made an official consideration. Seo Nam-Soo, Rector of UoE, hailed the exchange programme as a "once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for ten ambitious students to intellectually immerse themselves in a foreign culture and develop a greater understanding of human civilization". She continued to assert that the Palasians will receive "the warmest welcome from our students and their full hospitality". The scheme is said to be a wider ambition of the Elusenian government to diplomatically penetrate the Amarr Empire by first gaining a foothold in the relatively more open and commerce-minded Khanid Kingdom. The final selection of the ten exchange students will be announced in the coming weeks, as will the formal commencement of the program.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 2140	Posted - 2013.10.30 22:15:00 - [2] - Quote The first defection from which student body? The first violent casualty from which student body? Number of Khanid students purged for heresy within the year? Kirjuun - what sort of action is there?
Silas Vitalia Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD 1145	Posted - 2013.10.30 22:31:00 - [3] - Quote Kingdom pragmatism and a reputation for self-reliance has worked quite well alongside Caldari partners for generations. There is a reason this relationship has not happened with the Gallente. Sabik now, Sabik forever
Morijah d'Hanguest Ishtirak d'Hanguest 12	Posted - 2013.10.31 12:07:00 - [4] - Quote In the Name of the Lord To the Subjects of Palas and Elusenia and the Interested Public, with great joy Her Grace the Duchess confirms the exchange treaty between the Duchy of Palas and the Cooperative Republic of Elusenia. A decree pertaining to the programme (#PaEl-153010) has been lodged with the Ducal Council. We wish to communicate that naturally it is a substantial challenge to accept Gallente students and grant them access to the ducal seminary. Yet we are convinced that this challenge mirrors an integral part of the essence of our faith. We are asked to spread the Word of the Lord, and we are obliged to find appropriate ways to do so. It is our sacred burden to enlighten the ignorant and to educate those who do not know. The Light of the Lord will shine upon those who truly seek and who are truly guided. Knowledge on the other hand is the key to communicate effectivly and thus Her Grace is very pleased to also offer ten Palasians the opportunity to study foreign religions in a scientific environment which is equally challenging. Her Grace is very delighted to give ten foreign students the opportunity to experience Khanid traditions and customs in Armaniyye and in the spirit of cordiality will provide each student, Elusenian and Palasian, with a personal scholarship and generous travel founds. To ensure the safety and conduct of the Elusenian students, ducal guards will be posted at their housing and accompany them whenever necessary. Under the guidance of His Excellency the Dean of the Ducal Seminary for the Propagation of Faith 'Armani I' a committee has already selected ten students from honourable Palasian families. Their reputation, faith and commitment to the Khanid Kingdom, the Duchy of Palas and the nature of the exchange programme is beyond doubt and we look forward to send them to Elusenia. It is the inclination of Her Grace to foster relationships between institutions of higher learnings and promote the development of the sciences. Yours sincerely, Morijah dGÇÖHanguest Chancellor of the Ducal Council Concordia, Integritas, Industria
Stalking Mantis In Exile. Imperial Outlaws. 359	Posted - 2013.10.31 12:14:00 - [5] - Quote Yes. We have all seen the good the Gallente do when they establish a 'foot hold' in a 'commerce minded state'. As someone truly interested in learning more about my chosen faith through my chosen teachers (Dark Amarr). I must decline an invitation to be taught my faith 'from the perspective of the gallente'. If anything I would seek to see it as the Khanid see it.
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 86	Posted - 2013.10.31 13:57:00 - [6] - Quote Once again d'Hansguest betrays the trust of those ancestors who earned the exalted title she now abuses. The Gallente way of thought is a cancer that should be kept away from faithful Amarrians at all costs. Lord Admiral of PIE Inc."Face the enemy as a solid wall /-áFor faith is your armor /-áAnd through it, the enemy will find no breach /-áWrap your arms around the enemy /-áFor faith is your fire-áAnd with it, burn away his evil"- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3
Arista Shahni Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 51	Posted - 2013.10.31 14:00:00 - [7] - Quote How strange. I'd say more, but really. Is there more to be said? "I was dreaming once, and I dreampt of a world where I was nothing more than a biological fitting; a slave to the machine and crew, instead of the other way around. Don't you wonder at how easy it would have been for this scenario to happen, instead of how it actually unfolded?"
Stalking Mantis In Exile. Imperial Outlaws. 360	Posted - 2013.10.31 14:16:00 - [8] - Quote Gaven Lok'ri wrote: Once again d'Hansguest betrays the trust of those ancestors who earned the exalted title she now abuses. The Gallente way of thought is a cancer that should be kept away from faithful Amarrians at all costs. I believe his Highness showed the proper way to keep a Gallente, on a leash. It would be wise to use his model as insperation.
Silas Vitalia Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD 1145	Posted - 2013.10.31 14:24:00 - [9] - Quote Stalking Mantis wrote: Gaven Lok'ri wrote: Once again d'Hansguest betrays the trust of those ancestors who earned the exalted title she now abuses. The Gallente way of thought is a cancer that should be kept away from faithful Amarrians at all costs. I believe his Highness showed the proper way to keep a Gallente, on a leash. It would be wise to use his model as insperation. That particular trophy has never sung better since her enslavement. Sabik now, Sabik forever
Desiderya Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 459	Posted - 2013.10.31 15:37:00 - [10] - Quote Eh, pretty sure those little Eagles will be watching this very closely. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Zsaryna Adrelana Red Galaxy SpaceMonkey's Alliance 128	Posted - 2013.10.31 15:42:00 - [11] - Quote Desiderya wrote: Eh, pretty sure those little Eagles will be watching this very closely. They'd better not get themselves into a flap then. That being said, I'm sure the MIO or its Khanate equivalent will be doubtless taking a direct interest as well. This post does not constitute, unless clearly indicated otherwise, a statement of policy, opinion or approval by my corporation, alliance or coalition and should not be treated as such.
Seriphyn Inhonores Elusenian Cooperative 578	Posted - 2013.10.31 15:52:00 - [12] - Quote Arista Shahni wrote: How strange. What's so strange about an exchange program between two academic institutes? Alas, sometimes I forget the cluster is the business of promoting close-mindedness. As for any SDII presence in Elusenia, it can be assured that the foremost function of the Elusenian Intelligence Agency (EIA) is counter-intelligence. Any FIO presence in our borders will not have a legal mandate until one has been granted either by our government or the Eustron District Court. In short, any Federal intelligence assets in Elusenia will be treated as malignant. Federation Law protects the rights of private corporate land. All that being said, I'm sure the FIO have better things to do than worry about an island not much bigger than 200 hundred thousand square kilometres. There's at least two other temperate worlds in Vale they have to worry about.
Odelya d'Hanguest ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere 171	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:24:00 - [13] - Quote Gaven Lok'ri wrote: Once again d'Hanguest betrays the trust of those ancestors who earned the exalted title she now abuses. The Gallente way of thought is a cancer that should be kept away from faithful Amarrians at all costs. So? Your Emperor Heideran signed several treaties with the Gallente (CONCORD, Interbus, the Gallente-Amarr Free Trade Agreement, the treaty of Girani-FaGÇöto name a few). Your Empress Jamyl Sarum didnGÇÖt even react when the Gallente invaded Kor-Azor, slaughtering her subjects. Treason? Abuse of title? Why remain silent on this matters? If an academic exchange infuriates you, you should be on your way to Dam-Torsad now and demand an end to those imperial perversions! But on the other hand it is no real secret that the unofficial battle cry of PIE is GÇ£double-standard and paranoiaGÇ¥. You should be ashamed of the corrupted lies your lips form! However tell me, LokGÇÖri, how do I abuse my title by fostering intellectual exchange? The oncologist doesnGÇÖt have to love the cancer to study it. Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: What's so strange about an exchange program between two academic institutes? Alas, sometimes I forget the cluster is the business of promoting close-mindedness. It is the paranoid style of most imperial capsuleers, one shouldnGÇÖt expect better of them. They only difference they allow between themselves is that of GÇ£Yes!GÇ¥ and GÇ£Yes, Sir!GÇ¥ But by their standards it is a soft reaction. Usually they label everything they donGÇÖt understand heresy. I invite all interested imperial capsuleers to study theology at the Ducal Seminary for the Propagation of Faith 'Armani I' GÇöfor sure it will open many pathways of understanding to you. With kind regards, Odelya Negin Intourtsetseg of House dGÇÖHanguest Book of Prayers GÇö GalNet Profile GÇö Viva la Legion! GÇö Laudetur Khanid!
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 2160	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:35:00 - [14] - Quote Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: Arista Shahni wrote: How strange. What's so strange about an exchange program between two academic institutes? Alas, sometimes I forget the cluster is the business of promoting close-mindedness. As for any SDII presence in Elusenia, it can be assured that the foremost function of the Elusenian Intelligence Agency (EIA) is counter-intelligence. Any FIO presence in our borders will not have a legal mandate until one has been granted either by our government or the Eustron District Court. In short, any Federal intelligence assets in Elusenia will be treated as malignant. Federation Law protects the rights of private corporate land. All that being said, I'm sure the FIO have better things to do than worry about an island not much bigger than 200 hundred thousand square kilometres. There's at least two other temperate worlds in Vale they have to worry about. An exchange of impressionable young students between two nation states that are ostensibly at war? I'm not so sure that's as common or straightforward as you think. Especially when one of those two nationstates has a reputation for espionage.
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour 355	Posted - 2013.10.31 17:43:00 - [15] - Quote I am sure the Khanid Zealot population of Palas will be Overjoyed at the prospect of heathen Gallente appearing.
Seriphyn Inhonores Elusenian Cooperative 578	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:06:00 - [16] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: An exchange of impressionable young students between two nation states that are ostensibly at war? I'm not so sure that's as common or straightforward as you think. I cannot reconcile this mindset at all. It's as if just because there is a limited war going on, all empire stargates are locked to denizens of opposing empires. There are thousands of non-Gallente students at the University of Caille, for example, so I see no issue here. Besides, no declaration of war has been formally approved by the Senate towards the Amarr Empire or newly-vassalized Khanid Kingdom. Certainly, the Kingdom is not a participant in the CEMWPA, and I don't recall there ever being any direct confrontation between them and the Federation. In any case, I think you very mildly insult the cultural integrity of both groups of students.
Silas Vitalia Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD 1146	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:12:00 - [17] - Quote Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: In any case, I think you very mildly insult the cultural integrity of both groups of students. That is amusing as many Kingdom conservatives would think this program insults the cultural integrity of the Kingdom. Sabik now, Sabik forever
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 2160	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:17:00 - [18] - Quote Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: An exchange of impressionable young students between two nation states that are ostensibly at war? I'm not so sure that's as common or straightforward as you think. In any case, I think you very mildly insult the cultural integrity of both groups of students. Silly me, you're quite right. Students do something ill-advised for money? That NEVER happens. And for a short time I was a frequent visitor to one of the University of Caille campuses, so if you're trying to sell me on the sobriety and sense of the denizens of THAT institution, you're on a hiding to nothing.
Seriphyn Inhonores Elusenian Cooperative 578	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:26:00 - [19] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Silly me, you're quite right. Students do something ill-advised for money? That NEVER happens. It's a good thing their finances are covered. Quote: And for a short time I was a frequent visitor to one of the University of Caille campuses, so if you're trying to sell me on the sobriety and sense of the denizens of THAT institution, you're on a hiding to nothing. Not sure what you mean by this. UoC sits at the top of the higher education ladder.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 2163	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:29:00 - [20] - Quote Students are what we used to call, in the business, an 'At Risk' social grouping. They have a tendency to be highly malleable to media and peer group influences. They tend to, as a group, be more likely to make bad decisions than the norm. They tend to, as a group, engage in risky behaviours than the norm. They also tend to be susceptible to radicalisation. When you combine that factor with their poor judgement and idealogical malleability you get a very interesting and explosive combination.

Jinari Otsito Otsito Mining and Manufacture 180	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:30:00 - [21] - Quote I'm having a hard time thinking of someone I envy less than either of these two groupings. It'll never end well. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Morijah d'Hanguest Ishtirak d'Hanguest 13	Posted - 2013.10.31 18:56:00 - [22] - Quote In the Name of the Lord To the Interested Public, you may rest assured that all necessary measures are taken that this academic exchange will be an interesting and stimulation experience for all participating parties. The Khanid Kingdom has always been open to interstellar exchange and is very experienced in dealing with the dynamics of interstellar interaction. The measures taken include appropriate security procedures and screenings, continuous monitoring and evaluations. In addition, a manual of proper conduct will be handed out to the arriving Elusenian exchange students, and special tutors from the ducal seminaryGÇÖs missionary department will be assigned to help the students acculturating. The failure to obey local law will not be persecuted without recognising any special rights and cultural differences. Notwithstanding ill-advised voices, Her Grace the Duchess is convinced that the exchange programme between the Duchy of Palas and the Cooperative Republic of EluseniaGÇöin a spirit of mutual interest and the desire for knowledge and educationGÇöwill be a success and add to the spreading of the Word. Yours sincerely, Morijah dGÇÖHanguest Chancellor of the Ducal Council P.S.: Ms Shahni, we would like to point out that the current director of the Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque, Ms Nicoletta Mithra, is a University of Caille alumni. Since you had nothing more to say, we are sure that you find new employment in aGÇöpertaining to your viewsGÇöless corrupted environment. Concordia, Integritas, Industria
Augustus Inhonores Elusenian Cooperative Celestial Imperative 24	Posted - 2013.10.31 19:11:00 - [23] - Quote On behalf of the Director of Education and the University of Elusenia, I seek to clarify personally the competitive nature of the exchange programme's application process. Academic scores and interview performance is not enough to successfully win a place on the programme. The assessment of personality is prime, to the point that poor scoring can be overcome by demonstrating a positive moral character, and inversely a relatively less positive moral character can undermine a high score. Consequentially, only students who can demonstrate their cultural flexibility will be shortlisted. Students who can already speak the Amarrian or Khanid language will also be shortlisted presuming all other prerequisites are met. Augustus Inhonores Director-General Cooperative Republic of Elusenia
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 2166	Posted - 2013.10.31 20:38:00 - [24] - Quote If you choose to call educated and experienced feedback "ill advised voices" then the manners of Her Grace's hall are much reduced of late. I actually attended a six month duty rotation in the Kingdom.
Morijah d'Hanguest Ishtirak d'Hanguest 13	Posted - 2013.10.31 20:56:00 - [25] - Quote In the Name of the Lord Colonel Tuulinen, your voice and those of our allies in the State is always dulcet and welcome to us. By no means we were referring to you. Yours sincerely, Morijah dGÇÖHanguest Chancellor of the Ducal Council Concordia, Integritas, Industria
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 2166	Posted - 2013.10.31 21:06:00 - [26] - Quote Morijah d'Hanguest wrote: In the Name of the Lord Colonel Tuulinen, your voice and those of our allies in the State is always dulcet and welcome to us. By no means we were referring to you. Yours sincerely, Morijah dGÇÖHanguest Chancellor of the Ducal Council My, now that is more like my recollection of courtly Kingdom manners. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
Odelya d'Hanguest ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere 178	Posted - 2013.11.01 14:39:00 - [27] - Quote Interesting, isnGÇÖt it, when confronted with arguments, Gaven LokGÇÖri ducks and covers. Or is he on his way to Dam-Torsad already? Maybe I forgot that the battle cry of PIE Inc. also includes turning a blind eye on evidence. Regards, Odelya Negin Intourtsetseg of House dGÇÖHanguest Book of Prayers GÇö GalNet Profile GÇö Viva la Legion! GÇö Laudetur Khanid!
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 91	Posted - 2013.11.01 17:55:00 - [28] - Quote Or perhaps I have better things to do than monitor all of your posts constantly. As for your argument: you are comparing fedos to slaver hounds. Heideran's treaties were made when the Empire was not in a state of war with the Federation. The incursion into Kor-Azor that you mention merely highlights the fact that you are inviting nationals from a state that is at war with the Amarr into Khanid territory. Neither is comparable to starting an exchange program in the middle of a war. Also, intellectual exchange is only a virtue when you propogate good ideas through the intellectual exchange. When false ideas are propogated it become Lord Admiral of PIE Inc."Face the enemy as a solid wall /-áFor faith is your armor /-áAnd through it, the enemy will find no breach /-áWrap your arms around the enemy /-áFor faith is your fire-áAnd with it, burn away his evil"- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3
Odelya d'Hanguest ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere 178	Posted - 2013.11.01 18:14:00 - [29] - Quote Gaven Lok'ri wrote: Or perhaps I have better things to do than monitor all of your posts constantly. Oh. Really? After reviewing your recent activity I was under the impression that you havenGÇÖt. Gaven Lok'ri wrote: Heideran's treaties were made when the Empire was not in a state of war with the Federation. The incursion into Kor-Azor that you mention merely highlights the fact that you are inviting nationals from a state that is at war with the Amarr into Khanid territory. Neither is comparable to starting an exchange program in the middle of a war. Now it gets tricky. You are using a misdeedGÇösome would say treasonous actGÇöof your Empress to justify your criticism. Still that wasnGÇÖt my question. What is your opinion about an Empress that allows the Federal Navy to attack Imperial citizens? And I remind you, you wrote: Gaven Lok'ri wrote: The Gallente way of thought is a cancer that should be kept away from faithful Amarrians at all costs. So when the Gallente way of thought is a cancer that at all costs should be kept away from faithful Amarrians why does it matter if the Empire is at war or not with the Federation when making such a treaty? Gaven Lok'ri wrote: Also, intellectual exchange is only a virtue when you propogate good ideas through the intellectual exchange. Such as spreading of the Word? Regards, Odelya Negin Intourtsetseg of House dGÇÖHanguest Book of Prayers GÇö GalNet Profile GÇö Viva la Legion! GÇö Laudetur Khanid!
Gaven Lok'ri PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 91	Posted - 2013.11.01 18:49:00 - [30] - Quote Odelya d'Hanguest wrote: Gaven Lok'ri wrote: Or perhaps I have better things to do than monitor all of your posts constantly. Oh. Really? After reviewing your recent activity I was under the impression that you havenGÇÖt. Do you really think that talking on this cesspool is my primary duty? Quote: What is your opinion about an Empress that allows the Federal Navy to attack Imperial citizens? We are at war. Attacks across the borders of a nation at war are not exactly rare; sometimes those attacks succeed. Your argument of treason carries no water and shows a basic ignorance of how war works. Quote: Such as spreading of the Word? If you were propagating the word rather than heretical lies, it would be a start towards you acting your station. I expect, however, that you will continue acting like a spoiled brat who wants attention and will continue to embrace any scheme or heresy that might cause her to receive attention. Lord Admiral of PIE Inc."Face the enemy as a solid wall /-áFor faith is your armor /-áAnd through it, the enemy will find no breach /-áWrap your arms around the enemy /-áFor faith is your fire-áAnd with it, burn away his evil"- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3



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