The mobile depot provides capsuleers with their very own base in space. It won't offer protection - no one is ever truly safe in New Eden - but once deployed it can, at the very least, allow the capsuleer to store their most valuable belongings when under fire, and to refit their ship to better fight back against assailants.

No, the storage works like an anchored secure container.

Can my fleet use it's refiting service or is it like tractor - personal only?

Can this be used in combat for in-combat refit?


Refitting on the mobile home is personal only, it doesn't care about fleets or corps or standings.

And yes it can be used in combat, although your opponent can reinforce it very easily which shuts off the refitting service.

Can we anchor and blow up our own units?

What with those long activation timers? Would higher meta deploy quicker?

The activation timers for Depots are currently 45 seconds. That's not very long.

I very much dislike being able to use the depot in combat. Essentially this will allow people to drop depots when about to die and place all their expensive mods/cargo in it for perfect safety. Now of course the EHP on them is not very high, but it is substantially higher than the frigate like EHP previously mentioned.

Yeah for siphon and depot it could be but tractor structure? It pulls veeeery slow, one target at a time, and activates 45s... I think activation of it should be around 15-20s so it starts working at a time when first ship is going down.

Why does this thing has Sensor strengh??

capacity 3000m3 is a bad joke
should be minimum 100000m3

Store most valuable belongings is what stations are for.
capacity 3000m3 is a bad joke
should be minimum 100000m3

What happens to stored modules when it is scooped?

It's several orders of magnitude more than you'd get from a theoretical anchorable can of its size, and it has a fitting service and a reinforcement timer.

Although I could see the demand for bigger spaceyurts (bigger both in volume and storage space).

I'd be very disappointed if even deployable tractor beams have 27000m3 and depot only 3000m3

Mobile Tractors only have 100m3...

Cargo space 27000m3

The Mobile Depot is a nice idea. However, if you intend for them to be used in guerrilla warfare (deep in enemy territory), they need to be impossible to be probed and also provide space to store a few small ships (a few frigates, destroyers or cruisers). A single hot drop and your small gang guerrilla operation is ****** up and the sov owner is safe again (way too easy and reduce the chance of conflict).

Mobile Depots should act like a tent / camouflage net and in my opinion they should be like this:

- Meta 1 - impossible to be probed, 3000 m3 storage space, no ship storage (consider the ship storage space as the equivalent of a camouflage net that you can pull over your ships)
- Meta 2 - impossible to be probed, 4500 m3 storage space, 250.000 m3 ship storage (space for 2 cruisers and a few frigs)
- Meta 3 - - impossible to be probed, 6000 m3 storage space, 500.000 m3 ship storage (space for 1 BC, 2 cruisers, a few frigs)

Of course, they ship storage space can be adjusted, but the idea is to encourage the small gang guerrilla warfare and not put everything to a halt for a day or two if one member of your team loses his ship.

Ive noticed that you can pick up a depot when it is in reinforced and spit it back out to remove the reinforce timer. In theory depots can never be destroyed. Would a dev care to comment if this is a designed function and why, or if it is most likely an over sight?

The Mobile Depot is a nice idea. However, if you intend for them to be used in guerrilla warfare (deep in enemy territory), they need to be impossible to be probed and also provide space to store a few small ships (a few frigates, destroyers or cruisers). A single hot drop and your small gang guerrilla operation is ****** up and the sov owner is safe again (way too easy and reduce the chance of conflict).

Mobile Depots should act like a tent / camouflage net and in my opinion they should be like this:

- Meta 1 - impossible to be probed, 3000 m3 storage space, no ship storage (consider the ship storage space as the equivalent of a camouflage net that you can pull over your ships)
- Meta 2 - impossible to be probed, 4500 m3 storage space, 250.000 m3 ship storage (space for 2 cruisers and a few frigs)
- Meta 3 - - impossible to be probed, 6000 m3 storage space, 500.000 m3 ship storage (space for 1 BC, 2 cruisers, a few frigs)

Of course, they ship storage space can be adjusted, but the idea is to encourage the small gang guerrilla warfare and not put everything to a halt for a day or two if one member of your team loses his ship.

IMO making them all unprobable, or at least unprobable starting with meta1 isn't that OP. It would still be very simple to camp them for the user and find them by probing the user themselves. You can keep the higher meta ones valuable by improving storage or reinforce timers or other somethings.




If you're there to pick it up while its reinforced, then you can be killed.

^^^ This is how the Depot's need to work for them to be useful anywhere outside of high-sec (and I question their usefulness in high-sec even at this point.)

The Meta 3 Depot BPCs are going to be rare drops only accessible from the new Ghost sites. So they will have cost that matches their value.

well, yes, but why would anyone do that?

You are wrong.

The refitting service does not work while the depot is in reinforced mode, and the depot takes 45 seconds to anchor. If in 45 seconds you can not spare the time to blap the depot, you weren't winning. And even after the depot deploys, you can only strip fittings one at a time. So in an ideal scenario where the pilot is facing an overwhelming gang that's too stupid to blap his depot, he might be able to stash a couple of key mods before he goes boom. The exploitation of enemy ignorance ought to be rewarded.

The -only- case where someone might realistically be able to use this is when facing overwhelming dps in PVE. And even then, if your active tank is broken you probably won't have time to save much, and everything you save is then not going to be keeping the rest of your ship alive. Stash the deadspace rep? Boom. Seems balanced to me.

With these Depots... it would really be great to have our super-deep safespots back. I used to have a 600 AU one in Deklien.

How the **** can you have a 600 AU safespot?

^^^ This is how the Depot's need to work for them to be useful anywhere outside of high-sec (and I question their usefulness in high-sec even at this point.)

Agree with all of this. Honestly I might even increase storage.

For anyone who thinks this is too powerful, consider what a Orca alt can already do for you in lieu of a personal depot. The orca can cloak, has 400,000m3 of ship storage, can repair you, and has about 100,000m3 of storage.... and can provide command boosts.

Basically, in every way, an ORCA alt is currently superior to a depot and while that's maybe how it should be, I'd at least like (as a one account player) to have something like a similar option for operating in WH or lowsec. Rorqual can do all of this AND help industrialists with ore compression, and has 1,000,000m3 ship storage. I'd pay a LOT for a depot that could do all of this as even close to effectively as a Rorqual, and I still wouldn't get command boosts.

Basically, in every way, an ORCA alt is currently superior to a depot

But you'll have trouble getting that Orca alt deep into low or null, and a Rorqual is a big expensive target.

I see the depot being really useful for people flying into low/null areas with a travel fit, and setting up a temporary base to pvp, rat or whatever. You can refit and store loot at your safe spot, and if you get popped later you could always retrieve what loot you left.

Perhaps a second type of depot would be useful for ship storage needs. A halfway point between the depot and POS in both size needs (a small gang would need a blockade runner to place it) and cost (less of a solo venture)?

Bug? Save Fittings do not work with Mobile Depots.

Is that a bug? If not, then my concern is that we'll see a large increase in macro'ing by people in order to reduce the tedious and RSI inducing drag and drop nature of current Mobile Depot fitting. The implication is that increased macro'ing could potentially be detrimental to EVE.

Did you put in a proper bug report with that issue? I would but i'm not where i can put in a in game bug report.

Not sure but I think this thing is meant to be a tent not a motor home. If you need bays and clones get a Roqual alt.

If CCP wants to do this right, mobile depot will be something like...


30,000m3 of storage (or more depending on meta)
400,000m3 of ship storage (or more depending on meta)
very hard to probe (to nigh impossible depending on meta)

and make refit tool usable only while hostiles are not on grid

and then add something to be useful to industrialists too

Wait, you mean an Orca?

Not sure but I think this thing is meant to be a tent not a motor home. If you need bays and clones get a Roqual alt.

Am I the only person who thinks this thing is incredibly powerful to the point of being near broken for solo/0.0 roaming? Don't get me wrong solo PvP roaming in 0.0 is the only type of PVP that I really do so I honestly don't mind getting a hilarious new toy. But at the same time I cringe at the thought of catching other people will become so much harder if they employ this technique.

You can now travel fit every single PvP ship you want, providing you take a depot with you. And at only 50m3 + 5m3 per module *unless the modules are larger than 5m3* Cloak is 100m3 and sized AB/MWDs are sized based on hull, but most ships that don't rely on Cap 800s or aren't limited by space (Cynabal etc.) can easily pull off a full travel fit with room for refit modules and depot. Allowing you to safely travel deep into enemy space without the need to refit at a NPC station/carrier/POS. It makes travelling through hostile space so much easier, Also almost every ship that can afford to carry one got so much more utility now, you can carry a spare Afterburner to swap your MWD out, can carry a probe launcher if you ever need to probe someone or something, hacking modules incase you find a site, Tracking Disruptor is useful if you find a hostile ship after you that would be weak against it, ECCM etc. And you can pretty easily refit to your actual fit without any consequences.

I'm not sure how I feel about allowing the vast majority of ships to be able to run full travel fits without giving away much efficiency.

I think the gate/station/POS restrictions should be changed to 'being on grid' or at least 255km so it's outside max lock range. It's pretty stupid that someone could camp a gate/station in an Arty Machariel for example, but if they get caught, just refit to WCS and warp off. Falcon racial jammers mentioned by Michael is another example. The fact that it's only 3km fitting range from the depot though makes me feel that this isn't really going to be an issue (so much as a last ditch escape tactic). since an opponent trying to abuse the ability to refit at a depot has to give up a ton of mobility. But at camps where a falcon can instantly refit to 5x racial whatever's coming in is pretty broken.

You can bait people with these pretty good too. Anchor one next to a mobile warp disruptor, bait hostiles to follow you, kill something, refit to WCS, warp away from rest of hostiles sounds somewhat hilarious. The ability for almost any ship to carry a depot and WCS in cargo is a bit of a concern, although the EHP and the mechanics somewhat help balance that out. If you have a depot set up in advance however then you can have some fun until it's reinforced.

New change on sisi: you can't scoop a mobile depot until it's finished deploying.

I was going to ask if using Mobile Depot to create multiple jetcans as fast as you can click would be considered exploitative, but if they changed this it probably isn't that much of an issue.

You sick imaginative magnificent bastard.

Hello, i just tried Depot unit and found something interesting about it.

5k shield HP (25% is 1250), what means, it can be easilly repaired by a single shield drone.
Said drone can be easilly fitted using said unit.
Unit can be scooped and re-deployed even in reinforced mode, this only takes 1 minute. Owner will not lose it's content.
After that you can repair unit to have another reinforcement timer.
Considering 48hrs of reinforced mode and if i am on aggressing side, how am i supposed to kill this thing? Owner is able to log in when he want, re-deploy and repair unit in less than 3 minutes (total).

Practically, this structure is indestructible for as long, as it's owner care.

Potential bug found:

• While in reinforce, you cannot re-fit modules (I assume this is working as intended)
• While in reinforce, you CAN re-fit T3 subsystems

EDIT: This is the same for when Depot is Anchoring - your are able to re-fit T3 sub-systems.