Forumites reminded them that they needed to refocus on the important FiS aspects of eve.

Like ship spinning, ship skins and logos, engine trails, and a new font. These are what really matter.

What about a dev blog that explain the future of incarna and says if it's still in development?
Just some infos without any promise.
Even if you say that it requires 6 months or years, at least we'll know it.

The difference is that people actually asked for the return of ship spinning and engine trails. People have been asking for ship skins, logos and a new font for years.

Nobody asked for a rusted out room that burned up your video card attached to a microtransaction store that sold $70 monocles.

Where'd Incarna go?

not one of these threads again

The difference is that people actually asked for the return of ship spinning and engine trails. People have been asking for ship skins, logos and a new font for years.

Nobody asked for a rusted out room that burned up your video card attached to a microtransaction store that sold $70 monocles.

But players are asking for establishments, other common areas, Wis content, reasonably priced clothing , or clothing created by players, or even designed by players.

And as CCP now seems to be responding to players asking for stuff, those who want the above are going to keep asking.

The number of people leaving the game when CCP was focused on Incarna spoke louder than the roleplaying troublemakers who keep whining about their lost space barbies.

they were not working much on EVE at all

You're absolutely correct and now that they are working on Eve I would hate to see them listen to the tiny number of losers who want them to stop focusing on Eve and go back to focusing on Dolly Dressup.

The recent Dev Blog by our CEO should provide you with some of your answers.

And just to end this discussion in here as well and to help out good ol' Navigator I will just place this link in this very thread here as well...

And no matter how often you say "space barbie", it will not change.

Uhm what happened to Incarna? They're already discussing the Winter expansion and we haven't even left our CQ. What's up with that?


Edit: mainly I want to know where the rotunda is with all the bars and shops we were supposed to be able to open? Did that get tossed and I missed it?

CCP finally woke up to the fact that their playerbase doesn't want to play dress up barbie dolls with microtransactions and have wisely decided to refocus on Eve's core gameplay.

...I know I "only" have a 7800GT, which is a couple years behind most people's current cards, but when I can turn all the options at the lowest setting and still have like 5 FPS just for one person's head, there is something seriously wrong. Scale it up to medium/high options and a station full of people, and I don't see it being viable for almost anyone.

That is nice of you, but the Eurogamer interview spoke a slightly different language and the fact that they fired a lot of staff working on avatars doesn't exactly make me believe that new Incarna content is part of their plans within the next few years.

Incarna runs like a dream on my machine (60 FPS), with all graphics options on max. My card is about 2 years old.

The number of people leaving the game when CCP was focused on Incarna spoke louder than the roleplaying troublemakers who keep whining about their lost space barbies.

The problem isn't and wasn't with WiS, except for the handful of hardcore trolls. The problem is that it's been in design and development for what, literally five years now? And, as-released, it is horrid. Eve players have been told to put the things they want on hold, and put up with poor and unfinished expansions for years, while their subscriptions funded Incarna. Because it will be awesome, and good for the game.

After all that sacrifice and trust, it's fair for players to have expected basic competence from the product. What we got, of course, was an "MMO" of one person in one room, with poor performance. And when it launched, self-congratulatory posts from CCP telling us that this was amazing, breath-taking and unprecedented in MMO history. o.O Perpetually clueless, or dishonest? Neither answer is acceptable. And it had to actually be hard to spend millions of dollars from 2006-2011 and claim to be unable to produce an avatar-based multiplayer experience. There are no-name startup MMOs out there that have delivered better performance, completeness and interactivity in far less time.

Begs the question: How the heck can Dust work, if CCPs game engines and content creation can only handle one person in one room at a time?

Anyhow, had Incarna launched, timely and functioning well, this would all have been fine. The people who don't care for it could ignore it if they desired. But now, the people who have had the Internet Spaceships part of EVE suffer for years are bitter (or gone) due to how Incarna stunted the game they loved. And the people who were holding on for the repeated promises of Incarna have that snatched away too.

Going forward, if there is a forward, CCP has to DELIVER SOMETHING. Stop with 33% fleshed out expansion features. Finish them. And support, improve and maintain them after release. But you can't ask for forgiveness after five years of embezzling from your customers. You can only beg for mercy.