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Phish1
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Posted - 2006.02.09 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Phish1 on 09/02/2006 22:52:31
PVE:
High: 7x 250mm light 'scout' artillery I [Lead S] - Named rocket launcher [any rockets, defenders]
Med : Named frig AB - Named webber - Sheild booster / ECM / Whatever
Low : 2x Gyrostabilizer II
PVP:
As above but put a 20KM scrambler in med. If you expect to come uppon drones, drop the rocket launcher, and bang a smartbomb in there, named of course =D
This setup can 1 volley most rat destoyers at 30KM and can still track frigs up close (even without the webber)
Fighting anyone using missiles, i find defenders come in handy if you are quick enough to fire them in time.
I havent done any PVP with this ship, but i would like to, but this ship has never gone below half sheilds with me, and most of the time the rats are dead before they get to shoot at me. I havent tried cruisers, but i will, and i'll post the results here.
Enjoy =D
Edit: Smartbombs, gotta love um (BTW, i lost a ship like this to an ill timed sneeze, and pressing F8 (my smartbomb slot) while at a gate in 1.0, so, be warned)
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.02.11 03:09:00 -
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Personally I would lose the ab and use 280s with double webs.
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cy4n1d3
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Posted - 2006.02.15 05:01:00 -
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My setup:
Highs: 7x 280 II's with Tremor t2 ammo
Meds: 1x Sensor Booster II
1x Tracking Computer II
1x 90% Webber
Lows: 1x Gyro II
1x RCU
It's like a mini sniper. Has optimal of 50k. Can insta target and insta pop small ****. But if anything gets closer than 20k it's wise to be aligned and warp off, because you die in 1 hit to just about anything.
I'm trying a new one with 2 400mm rolled tungstens and 150 AC II's, 2800 armor is nothing to scoff at for a destroyer, even with their ****ty resists.
I don't really recommend using these seriously, but they are fun to mess around with.
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BlueSmok
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Posted - 2006.02.15 07:49:00 -
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High : 7x280 II's - Fusion ammo {13.77 Damage mod|8.61 ROF|16km Optimal}
Mids : 1MN AB II, small shield booster II, Empty slot
Lows : Gyro II, Reactor Control unit II
I mostly use it versus rogue drones, the rank 3/10 complex without taking any damage. Does well against Frigates as well.
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Hehulk
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Posted - 2006.02.15 07:55:00 -
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Highs
7 X 280mm Howitzer Artillery II with either Nuclear or Phased Plasma
1 X 'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher with Sabretooth
Mids
1 X Small Shield Booster II
1 X Small Shield Extender II
1 X Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Lows
1 X Tracking Enchancer II
1 X Nanoelectrical Co-Processor I
Not used it since RMR, but sice the bonuses it got then, it'd be a real evil frig killer, PVE or PVP.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.02.15 08:02:00 -
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7 280mm II with EMP ammo
1 rocket launcher
1 small shield booster II
1 catalyzed cold-gas arcjet thrusters (MWD)
1 fleeting web
1 micro auxilliary power core
1 reactor control II
This setup will one-volley player interceptors out to about 20km (which is one reason why it has no scrambler - it doesn't need it).
-Wrayeth
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Jethro Man
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Posted - 2006.03.12 09:56:00 -
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What would be a good thrasher setup for running level 2 missions?
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Swamp Ziro
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Posted - 2006.03.15 18:09:00 -
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7 AC's 1 Rocket
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1 AB
2 med shield extenders
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PDU x2 /// OR/// RCU + Gyrostab//// OR/// RCU x2
Bit hard to fit, but you should be good if you remove the rocket launcher, or just use 2 RCU's
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.03.15 19:13:00 -
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7 t2 280's 2 dmg mods, quake, dmg implants and 1 can of POON.
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.04.05 20:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
7 t2 280's 2 dmg mods, quake, dmg implants and 1 can of POON.
This man has the right idea. 
Next patch when you get 10% tracking per skill level this is going to give even plated inties a run for their money:
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [ 11 | 12] 280mm Howitzer Artillery II [10xQuake S]
> [ 11 | 12] 280mm Howitzer Artillery II [10xQuake S]
> [ 11 | 12] 280mm Howitzer Artillery II [10xQuake S]
> [ 11 | 12] 280mm Howitzer Artillery II [10xQuake S]
> [ 11 | 12] 280mm Howitzer Artillery II [10xQuake S]
> [ 11 | 12] 280mm Howitzer Artillery II [10xQuake S]
> [ 11 | 12] 280mm Howitzer Artillery II [10xQuake S]
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 24] Target Painter II
> [ 1 | 21] X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator (Or another TP II)
> [ 1 | 21] X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
7.-something- RoF
16.6xx Damage Mod
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.04.05 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
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> [ 1 | 24] Target Painter II
> [ 1 | 21] X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator (Or another TP II)
> [ 1 | 21] X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
You don't need webs if you lock him before he starts moving :)
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.04.05 22:21:00 -
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Im sure I posted this like, yesterday....
7x 280 II
2x Sensor Booster, 1x Whatever
Gyro, MAPC
Instalocks inties, instapops anything frigate sized. The best ship in the game for gatecamping vs frigs. Maybe barring a smartbomb boat :)
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Sion Gerge
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Posted - 2006.05.30 14:32:00 -
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Thrasher
High
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
Med
Prototype I Sensor Booster
Prototype I Sensor Booster
Target Painter I
Low
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
I need your advice do i fit this or do i fit normal howitzers and get 7 instead of 6
(with the 7 of em i cant get in 2 gyros)
This is what i get on the 6 guns
Damage modifier 8.171 ROF 8.83
With 7
Damage modifier 7.637 ROF 9.72
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Lasraik
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Posted - 2006.06.06 21:20:00 -
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Looks like I have some skills to train, nice setups
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Rexy
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Posted - 2006.06.06 23:08:00 -
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been awhile since i flow it, but i used
7x280 t2
mix of sensorboosters t2 and tracking comps, a web if i was going shortrange
2x gyro for shortrange, 2x tracking enhancer for long range, with tremor it squeezes out 70km with very nasty damage still, and absolutely owns at shortrange.should be good when the tracking bonus goes from 5 to 7.5% per lvl :D
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.06.06 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Im sure I posted this like, yesterday....
7x 280 II
2x Sensor Booster, 1x Whatever
Gyro, MAPC
Instalocks inties, instapops anything frigate sized. The best ship in the game for gatecamping vs frigs. Maybe barring a smartbomb boat :)
Quite funny that someone should post in this thread after Ive been gatecamping in an artythrasher for the last hour or so :P
Now my skills are better, it's
7x 280 II w/ Quake, 1x Rocket Launcher (useless module tbh)
3x Sensor Booster II
2x Gyro II
Shuttles? What shuttles?
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.06.06 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sion Gerge
Okey how about the cloaked destroyer?
Decloak, instalock , boom
Except that won't happen, as you will have to spend 30 seconds staring at your targets after decloaking.
Tarkin > Omfg, frigs are such bs.
Red 5 > lolol, lern 2 play plz noob
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Ellen Firestar
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Posted - 2006.06.23 04:01:00 -
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Could anyone either post a mission-running setup, or let me know up to what level of missions the above setups would serve? Thank you.
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Duranis Satosith
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:12:00 -
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I have just gone back to give the Thrasher a try while I train up some skills to us a Cyclone better. I have been doing level 2 missions in it and they are a lot more fun in this then they are in a rupture.
setup im using is:
HIGH-SLOTS :
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X7 200mm Light 'Scout' Autocannon I (or cheaper alternative)
X1 Small Nosferatu I
MED-SLOTS :
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Heat Dissipation Field I (swap to counter whatever you are fighting)
Medium Shield Extender I
Medium C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
LOW-SLOTS :
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Auto-Gain Control Tracking Enhancer I
Type-D Altered SS Nanofiber Structure
Could switch the lows to a PDU and Gyro but I prefer the extra speed and tracking. Most stuff in level 2 missions goes down pretty quick with 7 AC's hitting them. Small Nos could be swapped out for some rockets but I like having the option to regain some quick cap if needed.
You can also swap the Shield booster for another extender which i think will work just as well and if I'm in a mission where im not likely to take too much damage I swap out the extender for an AB.
I tried the Artie setup but my targetting skills suck which means I wasnt gaining anything as my range was being limited by my targetting skils. It did do some nice damage though :)
Level 2 missions are a challange in this (some are very easy some though). Have to say it is probably my fav ship so far.
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FFGR
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Posted - 2006.06.26 11:31:00 -
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@Duranis Satosith
That's a nice setup, I'm advising you though to remove that tracking enhancer and put a gyro, since it already has crazy tracking even with lvl2-3 destro.
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Duranis Satosith
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Posted - 2006.06.26 14:06:00 -
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Yeah sorry forgot to say if you have the skills to fit it put in a damage mod instead of the tracking mod. I cant fit one on with my current skills but if you can put one in :)
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Winnomill
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Posted - 2006.07.01 20:28:00 -
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I'm really new, I just got my thrasher, how do you fit so much with the energy like it is?
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Kard Fater
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:45:00 -
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AWU4 or AWU5 - one of the most useful skills I ever learned.
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Winnomill
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Posted - 2006.07.02 01:43:00 -
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AWU stand for Advanced Weapons Upgrade??
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.07.02 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Winnomill
AWU stand for Advanced Weapons Upgrade??
Correct.
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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.07.02 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Winnomill
I'm really new, I just got my thrasher, how do you fit so much with the energy like it is?
Train engineering to level 5. Really. It is the neccesary skill in this game.
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Boobies
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.02 11:51:00 -
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280mm II x 7 with Quake
Sensor Booster II x 2
Hypnos Multispec x 1
Gyrostab II x 2
Almost runs forever (cap use is under 1 cap more than the max recharge), and if the **** hits the fan you can try and jam your target and run away.
TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS
- In Rust We Trust -
Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine?
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2006.07.02 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
280mm II x 7 with Quake
Sensor Booster II x 2
Hypnos Multispec x 1
Gyrostab II x 2
Almost runs forever (cap use is under 1 cap more than the max recharge), and if the **** hits the fan you can try and jam your target and run away.
No web? Just wondering (little to no experience with destroyers, let alone Thrashers).
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.02 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni
Originally by: Sarmaul
280mm II x 7 with Quake
Sensor Booster II x 2
Hypnos Multispec x 1
Gyrostab II x 2
Almost runs forever (cap use is under 1 cap more than the max recharge), and if the **** hits the fan you can try and jam your target and run away.
No web? Just wondering (little to no experience with destroyers, let alone Thrashers).
If someone gets within web range, you run or you die 
You shouldn't let them. Will one volley most things which could get in range fast.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.02 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sion Gerge
Edited by: Sion Gerge on 30/05/2006 18:59:38
Thrasher
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
280mm Carbine Howitzer I
Prototype Cloaking Device I
250mm Light Carbine Howitzer I
Prototype I Sensor Booster
Prototype I Sensor Booster
Passive Targeter I
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Okey how about the cloaked destroyer?
Decloak, instalock , boom
30 second cloaking relock delay?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.07.02 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni
Originally by: Sarmaul
280mm II x 7 with Quake
Sensor Booster II x 2
Hypnos Multispec x 1
Gyrostab II x 2
Almost runs forever (cap use is under 1 cap more than the max recharge), and if the **** hits the fan you can try and jam your target and run away.
No web? Just wondering (little to no experience with destroyers, let alone Thrashers).
Not with a multispec unless you fit a co-pro. You could do one or the other, but when your attack on a rocket crow goes **** up and he's mwding around you at 15km, you're gonna curse yourself for not having a jammer :P
TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS
- In Rust We Trust -
Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine?
LOL -Suvetar |
Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2006.07.02 13:29:00 -
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Ok, I see your point. I've been contemplating trying out the Thrasher (and Minmatar ships in general) for a while now, this may be an occasion.
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Uncle Evil
Minmatar
White Nova Industries
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.24 11:59:00 -
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Artillery Thrasher even with best gunnery skills wont kill interceptor if it is orbiting you above 1,000km+/s speeds. So...
Only use Thrasher (arty) to gate camp or shoot them right off the bat, before they start moving.
IMPORTANT: People who post all those 7x 280mm tech2 setups forget to mention, that to fit all that you need: Engeneering 5, Weapon Upgrades 5, Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5!(that one takes long).
Without Adv Weapons Upgrade lvl5 you can't fit 1 slot (unless its basic item, no powergrid).
7x 280mm tech 2 howitzers(Quake S or EMP S if target moving,better tracking), 1(empty)
2x sensor boosters I, 1 tracking computer (for range and tracking)
2x Gyrostabilizers (tech 2 is expencive, use Pneumatics)
Setup is cheap (around 2mil + ship), fair trade even you die after killing 1 interceptor.
280mm arty has damage modifier around x16 with close to maxed gunnery skills.
Range is 13-18km with Quake S, With Tremor S, upto 50, but bad damage and tracking.
It hurts all small targets alot, will kill even some AFs with 2-3 volleys.
Again, to be really efficient need really high gunnery skills.
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Eldous
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Posted - 2006.10.02 08:45:00 -
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For a very new player (under 1 month) I found that this set-up will do good (at least in QuickFit) at 20 km range:
HIGH-SLOTS :
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- [ 2 | 4] 150mm Light Prototype I Automatic Cannon [80xEMP S]
- [ 2 | 4] 150mm Light Prototype I Automatic Cannon [80xEMP S]
- [ 8 | 9] 250mm Light Prototype I Siege Cannon [40xDepleted Uranium S]
- [ 8 | 9] 250mm Light Prototype I Siege Cannon [40xDepleted Uranium S]
- [ 8 | 9] 250mm Light Prototype I Siege Cannon [40xDepleted Uranium S]
- [ 8 | 9] 250mm Light Prototype I Siege Cannon [40xDepleted Uranium S]
- [ 8 | 21] TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay [46xFlameburst Light Missile]
- [ 0 | 0] Turret Slot - free
MED-SLOTS :
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- [ 10 | 15] Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
- [ 1 | 8] Prototype I Sensor Booster
- [ 23 | 25] Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
LOW-SLOTS :
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- [ 1 | 33] Pneumatic Stabilization Actuator I
- [ 0 | 0] Shield Power Relay I
and the skills required:
SKILLS REQUIRED
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Lvl 2 Electronics
Lvl 1 Navigation
Lvl 1 Destroyers
Lvl 1 Science
Lvl 1 Shield Upgrades
Lvl 2 Energy Grid Upgrades
Lvl 3 Minmatar Frigate
Lvl 3 Spaceship Command
Lvl 1 Small Projectile Turret
Lvl 2 Gunnery
Lvl 2 Engineering
Lvl 1 Missile Launcher Operation
Lvl 1 Weapon Upgrades
Lvl 1 Long Range Targeting
Lvl 1 Afterburner
Can anyone give me some ideea for improvements ? To use this for doing lvl 2 mish.
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david1024
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Posted - 2006.10.05 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Eldous
Edited by: Eldous on 02/10/2006 12:03:05
For a very new player (under 1 month) I found that this set-up will do good (at least in QuickFit) at 20 km range:
HIGH-SLOTS :
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- [ 2 | 4] 150mm Light Prototype I Automatic Cannon [80xEMP S]
- [ 2 | 4] 150mm Light Prototype I Automatic Cannon [80xEMP S]
- [ 2 | 4] 150mm Light Prototype I Automatic Cannon [80xEMP S]
- [ 8 | 9] 250mm Light Prototype I Siege Cannon [40xDepleted Uranium S]
- [ 8 | 9] 250mm Light Prototype I Siege Cannon [40xDepleted Uranium S]
- [ 8 | 9] 250mm Light Prototype I Siege Cannon [40xDepleted Uranium S]
- [ 8 | 21] TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay [46xFlameburst Light Missile]
- [ 0 | 0] Turret Slot - free
MED-SLOTS :
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- [ 10 | 15] Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
- [ 1 | 8] Prototype I Sensor Booster
- [ 23 | 25] Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
LOW-SLOTS :
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- [ 1 | 33] Pneumatic Stabilization Actuator I
- [ 0 | 0] Shield Power Relay I
and the skills required:
SKILLS REQUIRED
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Lvl 2 Electronics
Lvl 1 Navigation
Lvl 1 Destroyers
Lvl 1 Science
Lvl 1 Shield Upgrades
Lvl 2 Energy Grid Upgrades
Lvl 3 Minmatar Frigate
Lvl 3 Spaceship Command
Lvl 1 Small Projectile Turret
Lvl 2 Gunnery
Lvl 2 Engineering
Lvl 1 Missile Launcher Operation
Lvl 1 Weapon Upgrades
Lvl 1 Long Range Targeting
Lvl 1 Afterburner
Can anyone give me some ideea for improvements ? To use this for doing lvl 2 mish.
I'd either go full autocannon, or full arty.
Keep in mind that I'm usually a shield-tanking caldari, but....
Generally, I fit the thrasher as follows:
Highs
5x 250mm 'scout' arty
2x named NOS
1x named rocket launcher
mids (you can fit T1 here... just a little less tankage and speed)
small T2 cap injector
small T2 shield booster
1mn T2 AB
lows (lots of flexibility here)
2x gyro, 1x gyro and 1x nano, or 2xnano
Even when I was T1 fitted with this I could take out NPC cruisers pretty easy.
You have to use the cap-booster to shore up your cap-levels to keep the small booster running, and once you close, shift over to just the NOS's to keep your cap up.
The rocket launcher should fit some defenders to use against the heavy missile spamming cruisers, but once you close, defenders don't work that well so switch to rockets after you start the NOS running.
You can play with shield amps and hardeners, but the speed of the AB (the only non-tank mid) comes in really handy. Most frig rats are dead after two rounds of arty hit them. (close to 100dmg/shot per gun) Cruisers take longer... and you generally wind up orbiting them at high speed. So even a full autocannon setup could work, but if you get webbed, you need to be able to kill the webber--FAST and at range... hence the arty in this setup.
Even with Destroyer 4 and gunnery skills at lvl4, lvl 2's can require some warpouts. But generally you should be able to just drive out of range due to the thrasher's insane speed. (well, insane by destroyer standards...)
Also, you can semi-shield/armor tank. I find with the T2 cap booster + NOS, the small shield booster is the bottleneck in my tank, so a T2 small repper is sometimes useful. I have not been able to get a decent armor-only-tank running on this ship, two lows just seem like 'not enough', and the 3 mids just beg for a booster/booster/AB setup.
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cheese390
Minmatar
Four Horsemen
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Posted - 2006.10.05 02:17:00 -
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never rule out the effects of a target painter on a MWD interceptor. was able to hit a very close-orbiting MWD claw in my arty thrasher with surprising accuracy when it was painted.
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Ka'kelam
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Posted - 2006.12.13 04:42:00 -
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Okey dokey, this is a theoretical setup. I don't have AWU, so i can't actually fit all this stuff, but i think it could be an interesting setup....
7 X 150mm 'Scout' AC's
1 X Malkuth Rocket
1 X Mwd, best named
1 X Web, best named
1 X HULL repair (Yes, HULL reapier)
2 X DCM
Now, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but 2 DCM's should give you a resist of 75% against everthing across the board for structure. Yes, it's structure
If ANYTHING can survive 7 AC's firing away at them long enough to kill you with a hull reppy and 75% resists, you really, really shouldn't be there anyway. Otherwise, 7 AC's is more damage output that any frig in existence me thinks...
I usually go for arty setups, but i'm curouse as to how the thrasher would hold up as a close range AC boat, especially after discovering how much of a killer the wolf is with only 4 AC's....
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Kyrgyz
Asgard Protectorate
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 23:38:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Ka'kelam
Okey dokey, this is a theoretical setup. I don't have AWU, so i can't actually fit all this stuff, but i think it could be an interesting setup....
7 X 150mm 'Scout' AC's
1 X Malkuth Rocket
1 X Mwd, best named
1 X Web, best named
1 X HULL repair (Yes, HULL reapier)
2 X DCM
Now, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but 2 DCM's should give you a resist of 75% against everthing across the board for structure. Yes, it's structure
If ANYTHING can survive 7 AC's firing away at them long enough to kill you with a hull reppy and 75% resists, you really, really shouldn't be there anyway. Otherwise, 7 AC's is more damage output that any frig in existence me thinks...
I usually go for arty setups, but i'm curouse as to how the thrasher would hold up as a close range AC boat, especially after discovering how much of a killer the wolf is with only 4 AC's....
IIRC, you can only run 1 DCM on a ship at a time. For your information, the best named DCM provides 58% resists on the hull.
In any case, for PVP setups, keep in mind that Thrashers are very fragile. For PVP I don't worry about putting tank setups on my Thrashers. In a PVP situation, by the time you Thrasher is into structure you should already be warping out or planning the escape route for your pod. 
My favorite Thrasher setup for PVP is what you have probably already seen a lot of on this thread; the 7 x 280mm II's in the highs and 2 x sensor booster and 1 x tracking computer in the mids. With this setup, the Thrasher rules for anti-frigate work in a gang.
For PVE setups, I recommend going with artillery again, and using an AB and SB in the mids to enable you to get some distance from the npcs and fire on them well out of their optimal ranges while keeping your transversal speed to a minimum.
P.S. I started with the Thrasher my second week in the game and at that time I did not have the skills to mount 7 x 280 mm artys, let alone tech II's. However, I did find a shortcut till I trained up the necessary skills. For you newer players, you can place reactor controls and PDU's in the low slots of your Thrasher to help you get that additionaly power grid for the 280's. Of course, that is just a temporary fix until you train up the appropriate skills.
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Makkita
Caldari
Sabre Inc
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.12.25 06:42:00 -
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The be all, end all...
I've fallen in love with what I like to call the "Trasher Thrasher"
I mostly use it for solo frig ganking and as a drone popper/ceptor pwner in small fleet.
-This setup is cheap! and effective and I highly recommend you give it a try!
-High
(7)280mm Artillary (EMP). (1) Standard Launcher (Thermal)
-Mid
(2) Webbers. (1) 20k Scram
-Low
(1)Nanofiber. (1) RCU(if you dont AWU)
Tactic is to dual web and use "keep at distance" 9km. or just pop'em in 2 salvo's
I really don't know why people are fitting sensor boosters because it already has a good enough scan resolution to lock frigs in no time!
Close range ceptors + dual webbed = X_x and long range fast ceptors = X_x with regular EMP ammo.
You also pop them damn drones thats become so popular as of late(and almost everyone flys).
Goodluck and don't worry as the whole setup costs.....LIKE NOTHING!
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Helene Troi
Gallente
HellBrothers Industries
ORION FEDERATION
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:40:00 -
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Edited by: Helene Troi on 25/12/2006 09:46:16
Recently trained destroyer 5... 
I love this boat.
280's are kinda redundant because of fitting and the max targeting range being 27kms without skills kinda defeats the point...
So I use t2 250's for fitting and rof, they hit good up to late 40kms range and thats enough...
A webber is kinda redundant for anything except a player inty and if you let one of those get that close, you're already dead...
I wouldn't bother with a scrambler either, take a gang, let someone else do it...
Nuclear ammo is handy for its range bonus and it doesn't have the tracking nerf of t2 tremor ammo...
Up close, nothing beats emp bullets...
Always carry a few defender missiles...
Mission setup:-
7x 250 artys, 1 missile launcher
abII, medium shield booster, named sensor booster
PDU, mapc
(Nicely handled the human cattle series, best fun ship for silence the informant, snipes away stop the thief- use defender missiles)
Gank set up:-
7x 250 artys, missile launcher
ab, sensor booster, tracking comp,
gyrostab, nano
Sniping:-
7x 280's
2 sensor booster, tracking comp
2x gyrosytabs
???
Gotta try that sometime...
Salvage:-
4x tractor beams, 4x salvager1's
1 abII, small cap battery
2x cargo expanders...
Shame on me...
Thrasher for level Three Missions!
Rogue drone harrassment.
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Kyrgyz
Asgard Protectorate
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.30 20:05:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Makkita
I really don't know why people are fitting sensor boosters because it already has a good enough scan resolution to lock frigs in no time!
The reason I suggest sensor booster(s) is because that extra second of lock time can make all the difference in the world when the other ship is attempting to deny the engagement and warp away. From experience I have found that a 1 or 2 second lock time is preferable to a 3 or 4 second lock time. This is especially true when the other ship is a frigate class ship with a small sig radius.
Plus, the sensor boosters give your ship a bonus to range, so when using artillery with say carbonized lead ammo, with its 60% bonus to range, you can lock and shoot ships far away from the destroyer.
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Kyrgyz
Asgard Protectorate
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.30 20:10:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Helene Troi
280's are kinda redundant because of fitting and the max targeting range being 27kms without skills kinda defeats the point...
If you can fit them, 280's are well worth it. Not only do they allow you a decent mid range engagement with the destroyer, but they also give a bigger bonus to damage than the 250's. Obviously, more damage is good. Couple the 280's with a sensor booster, and you can fully utilize the 280's range and falloff capabilities.
Originally by: Helene Troi
Salvage:-
4x tractor beams, 4x salvager1's
1 abII, small cap battery
2x cargo expanders...
Shame on me...
What an awesome idea. I told some of my corpmates about this setup and they like it.
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Makkita
Caldari
Sabre Inc
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.12.30 21:18:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Kyrgyz
The reason I suggest sensor booster(s) is because that extra second of lock time can make all the difference in the world when the other ship is attempting to deny the engagement and warp away. From experience I have found that a 1 or 2 second lock time is preferable to a 3 or 4 second lock time. This is especially true when the other ship is a frigate class ship with a small sig radius.
Plus, the sensor boosters give your ship a bonus to range, so when using artillery with say carbonized lead ammo, with its 60% bonus to range, you can lock and shoot ships far away from the destroyer.
I was speaking for solo, which your setup cannot do.(you got no scram fitted!) Even in fleet you must have a tackler for your setup to work. Meaning you'll need fast lock to scram him anyways. Try taking and inty in your setup and your toast, as I can sit pretty relaxed because A) He's pop or B) he's gonna run with his tail between his legs, and I'm going to call victory on that one. Destroyer FTW!
Oh and BTW it is my experiance that a frigate isn't going to insta warp away scared from A destoyer,(fleet ganking a frigate just looks bad) maybe until now
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Nstfgl
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Posted - 2007.02.20 16:29:00 -
[44]
My character is less than 3 days old and I've been doing level 2 missions for a security agent with this fit:
High:
7 250mm galium artillery with depleted uranium s
Medium:
Shield Booster II
Small Cap booster with 75 charge ammo
Cold-gas afterburner
Low:
2 named gyros
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Nian Banks
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.25 14:06:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Nian Banks on 25/02/2007 14:03:27
wrong thread...
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Raul Khan
Minmatar
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.27 20:46:00 -
[46]
as far as insta-popping frigates and other small ships goes, what scan resolution is reccommended? i can get a frigate up to 1800, but do i really need it?
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.27 21:19:00 -
[47]
7 280mm II
2 Tracking comp II, 1 sensorbooster II or 1 Tracking comp II, 3 sensorbooster II
2 gyro II
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Satanyc
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:31:00 -
[48]
Any updates for this all these builds seem to use to much PG Thanks
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Dammar
Amarr
Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:13:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Satanyc
Any updates for this all these builds seem to use to much PG Thanks
..or you could actually read the year old thread you just bumped.
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Phish1
Liberty Forces
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:26:00 -
[50]
heh, i forgot i made this...
7 280mm II
1-3 SB II, 0-2 tracking comp II
1-2 gyro II, 0-1 PDU (for noobs without AWU)
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heheheh
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Posted - 2007.03.07 01:10:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Makkita
I was speaking for solo, which your setup cannot do.(you got no scram fitted!) Even in fleet you must have a tackler for your setup to work.
no, he doesnt need a scram to solo an inty because he locks and pops it before it even gets moving.
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David Devant
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:54:00 -
[52]
Hey there people, wanting some adivice. I've been playing around with the 280II setups in this thread as I'm currently training Minnie Frig V for a sabre. I have Destroyer lvl 5 and fairly decent gunnery skills, but I've yet to experience the insta poppage I'd been led to expect from this ship.
With EMP I've managed to get a crusader down to 50% armour and with fusion loaded I didn't do much of anything to a crow, excellent hit of 75. I realise that these were the 'wrong' ammo types for these ships i.e. vs. armour tanks and sheild tanks, but still I don't think I would have got through the crusader's sheild's with the 'armour' ammo. Anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? What ammo do you have in as standard? Are insta-pops largely a roll of the dice, if so can I improve my chances? Perhaps by adding 3rd Sensor Booster i'll nab em before they start to move thereby getting better quality hits? Might quake be a possiblilty despite the lack of range?
Thanks very much for the input guys and gals....
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Phish1
Liberty Forces
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:41:00 -
[53]
lock em before they move, use Tremor ammo for longer range stuff. I carry EMP, tremor and quake.
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Lich Anama
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.14 16:38:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Ka'kelam
7 X 150mm 'Scout' AC's
1 X Malkuth Rocket
1 X Mwd, best named
1 X Web, best named
1 X HULL repair (Yes, HULL reapier)
2 X DCM
Worst setup ever posted in eve?
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Distilled Insanity
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Posted - 2007.03.20 06:33:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Distilled Insanity on 20/03/2007 06:33:16
Edited by: Distilled Insanity on 20/03/2007 06:30:40
as many before said, quake ammo. even with transversals and whatever, these are small guns on a destroyer, they get tracking boosts. Taranis jumps into my gate i lock he locks, i SWITCH (10 seconds) to quake, fire one shot (his armor approx 30% my shield is 30%) his 20 man gang jumps in, i pop him with the second volley, gang decloaks, im locking both the wreck and the pod, 3 guns on the wreck and 4 on the pod, boom boom, gang kills me. i did do 20 mil of damage: ship, insurance, mods, cargo, pod. in 3 volleys. 6x 280mm, 3x Sensor boosters, 2x gryrostab tech 1
quake wins. but remember to have tremor for gatecamps, gets you on the mails.
**edit: ship costs 5 mil, guns, ammo, insurance, ship, and named sensor boosters
***Edit: reply to that david guy up there asking about ammos: USE T2 ammo! any non hardened frig (t2 or not) is dead vs. quake, tremor t1 instapop, t2 2 volley
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Sabatour
Minmatar
Sabatour Frigate Navy
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Posted - 2007.04.15 22:59:00 -
[56]
level 3 mission (Republic Fleet) running Thrasher:
6 x 250mm light artillery cannon 1
1 x 250mm light carbine howitzer 1
malkuth rocket launcher
1mn AB 1
tracking PC 1
stasis webifier 1
small armor rep 1
200mm reinforced titanium plates
may have to warp off occasionally, but i have done all my level 3 missions with it so far
Oh, and always have a web just in case of inty with mwd. But simply put, anyless than 3 intys or af's on you and you win
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Ki'ymmuriel Ad'avare'nym
Minmatar
Vereinigte Intergalaktische Freibeuter
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Posted - 2007.09.12 02:09:00 -
[57]
Some more Setups?
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DeathsEmbrace
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Posted - 2007.10.15 23:50:00 -
[58]
I've been using a target painter instead of a targeting comp. on the snipers setups as an alternative and to be honest I get better results due to the increase in sig radius.
To live is to die, and to die is to give life. Thus pain is a form of euphoria.
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Kelbesque Crystalis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.16 00:12:00 -
[59]
Originally by: DeathsEmbrace
I've been using a target painter instead of a targeting comp. on the snipers setups as an alternative and to be honest I get better results due to the increase in sig radius.
An increase in sig radius and increase in tracking are equivalent in terms effect on your chance to hit. A TP can give a better result (+37.% vs 30%) if you skill up for it, and it helps everyone hit and not just you. The main reason people use a TC is that it also gives 15% to optimal and doesn't have to be retargetted.
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Yolos1
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Posted - 2007.10.29 18:23:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Yolos1 on 29/10/2007 18:25:43
Edited by: Yolos1 on 29/10/2007 18:24:21
Hi. I'm a relatively new player, and I would like to have some inputs on Lvl1-2 Mission setups for my Thrasher. I did review the thread, but most of these were made back in 2006. Are these still valid or have any changed since latest expansions?
My current setup is:
[High-Slots]
6x200mm Autocannons
1x200mm Light Scout1
1 Markuth Missile Launcher
EMP S ammo
Piranha missiles
[Med-Slots]
Shield Extender 1
1MN AfterBurner
Shield Booster
[Low-Slots](not at home, so will update later)
A damage reducer(looks like a suitcase)
Some type of power analyzer(friend gave to me and said add it)
I do win with my current setup, but I cannot really do any gunnery damage until they are about 8500m. Is this where sensor booster comes in? What will help me shoot them further with my setup or should I have a different setup or is it just me lacking skills?
Here's my current bios:
Weapon upgrade level 1
turret level 3
rapid fire level 3
gunnery level 3
std missiles level 2
destroyers level 1.
Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks.
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AntonioBanderas
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.30 11:26:00 -
[61]
convo me ingame
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rljpdx
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:47:00 -
[62]
I hope this is not too off topic. I've been going back and forth between destroyer and cruiser, when my cruiser get's killed in lvl 2 missions because I'm a newbie I'm back to my trusty destroyer, which I am going to stay in, through lvl 2 hopefully. I've laid off lvl 2 missions until I get more skill training to effectively use a cruiser.
Currently I run a destroyer in lvl 1 with high quality agents in low sec amassing isk.
7x 250mm
1x arbalest assault
2x regolith fs9 shield extender
1x shield booster
1x warp stab (which i have to offline and switch guns off/on when low sec)
1x shield relay
Now, please, I know this is amateurish and newbish, and I am 30 days into the game. But this setup lets me take damage and 99% of lvl 1s are a snap with this without having to 'go back.'
I have read this thread about 4 times (as well as the cruiser set up thread), and am going to read it a few more times. I am not using NOS, AB, gyro, etc probably because I'm a newbie and haven't figured out how to integrate it right. I guess I'm looking for better explanations on some of the setup's as my simple view of offense is big guns, and my simple view of defense is lots of shield HP's and being able to run away.
Any suggestions or a better thread, article, web site I should be reading, as I've learned the game the hard way by experimenting, and reading everything I can (all the player, guides, and am starting to go through fourm articles).
Thanks
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Ebos Detauck
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:41:00 -
[63]
I have a question also.. would these PVP configurations be good for hunting player drones?
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SaorAlba
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.11.03 13:27:00 -
[64]
Only if you can web them. In general don't bother with the drones but go for the ship instead. I haven't seen my setup posted here but once you station jockey's get it right you can solo kill up to Sabre's with a thrasher.
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Boris Enichov
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.11.27 20:18:00 -
[65]
7 X 280's in the high slot worked very well for me - I'm still trying to balance the medium and low slots. I chewed through 4 frigates in about 2 minutes without /any/ damage = cool.
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SlayerMax420
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Posted - 2007.12.04 21:37:00 -
[66]
Edited by: SlayerMax420 on 04/12/2007 21:41:38
May've been posted before but mine is:
HIGH: 7x 250mm II(EMP), 1x 'Arbalest' Standard(Flameburst)...
MED: 1x 1MN MWDII, 1x Warp Scrambler II, 1x Fleeting Propulsion Web...
LOW: 1x Overdrive II, 1x Gyro II...
If you have ISK to blow:
RIG: 2x Polycarbon Engine Housing I, 1x Auxiliary Thrusters I
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NOTE: I have killed 2 Sabre's and multitudes of inties with this setup. Primary problem is trying to engage AFs, I wouldn't suggest it. Unless you orbit at range and their tracking sux.
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co.
Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:08:00 -
[67]
I'm assuming most/all of the people posting set ups including Tech 2 280mm have Advanced Weapon Upgrades to at least 4?
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.12 22:20:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow
I'm assuming most/all of the people posting set ups including Tech 2 280mm have Advanced Weapon Upgrades to at least 4?
If the setup doesn't include a powergrid fitting mod, yes.
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Coleman Strykr
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:53:00 -
[69]
Just a quick question, can you fit the sniping setup of 7x280t2's with AWU at 3? Kinda trying to shave some training time down a little.
Asta
PSY
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Traeon
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.21 12:02:00 -
[70]
Quote:
Just a quick question, can you fit the sniping setup of 7x280t2's with AWU at 3? Kinda trying to shave some training time down a little.
No.
I think at AWU IV you can fit the 280mm II's if you sacrifice a med slot module or two.
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Lhematar
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.12.30 14:18:00 -
[71]
High Slot:
1x Salvager
2x Small Tractor Beam
5x 280mm Howitzer Arty II with Tremor
Med Slot:
1x Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
1x Prototype I Sensor Booster with Targeting Range
Low Slot:
1x Reactor Control Unit I
1x Overdrive Injector System I
What you guys think ? With the sensor booster I'm shooting them from 42km away. I'm using it for missions(lvl 2) and salvaging, I made it yesterday and being able to make a good money out of it.
I'm training Energy Management 'till lvl 4 so I can use a Aux. Power Control and put a shield booster on the med slot, for emergencies and eletronics lvl 4 to have CPU for a Gyro II
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.30 16:30:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Hannobaal on 30/12/2007 16:30:33
For killing frigates (anything softer than assault ships goes pop easily) and drones in a gang/fleet:
7 x 250mm artillery II (nuclear ammo)
1 x mwd II, 1 x target painter II, 1 x stasis webifier II
1 x tracking enhancer II, 1 x gyrostabilizer II
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Tes Quin
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Posted - 2008.02.23 23:30:00 -
[73]
Autocannons PvE, beltratting Minmatar style
7x 200mm AutoCannon I, EMP S
Salvager I
1MN Afterburner I
Small Shield Booster I
Medium Shield Extender I (1500 Shield is nice)
Overdrive Injector System I
Gyrostabilizer I
has plenty of grid and cpu left to fit all even with low skills, can fit another med shield extender instead of the booster, and can go t2 on the guns if desired
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.02.24 04:52:00 -
[74]
8 280 mm arty II's
2 sensor booster II's tracking comp II
2 gyrostab II's
requires advanced wep upgrades V to fit.
only proper thrasher setup IMHO
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.02.24 08:51:00 -
[75]
Arty wolf superiour.
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Friends Forever
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will haul
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Posted - 2008.02.25 00:30:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Audri Fisher
8 280 mm arty II's
2 sensor booster II's tracking comp II
2 gyrostab II's
requires advanced wep upgrades V to fit.
only proper thrasher setup IMHO
If only the thrasher has 8 turret slots :(
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Shinta Kobi
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Posted - 2008.05.14 14:28:00 -
[77]
High: 7x 200mm AC II's, last slot empty
Med: 1x Cap Recharger II(for the Microwarp) 1x 1MN Microwarp II, 1x Web
Low: 2x PDS II's(need the added shield recharge and cap bonus)
Sounds like a crappy build, but I find it to be in very good tradition of Minnie classical tactics; hit and run. I can get in fast, web, orbit at close range(close enough to where long-range weps are useless, and have at it. They throw drones out? Ok, target, pop, target, pop. There goes a few mill. My ammo loads consist of 4x AC's with EMP and 3x AC's with Phased Plasma. I seem to do fine, though any input is fine by me.
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Johann Callasan
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Posted - 2008.06.26 08:52:00 -
[78]
I'm really not clear on how people are gettig these insane ranges on weapons that in their info have less than 10KM optimal.
What support skills are you training to get a weapon wiht 10KM optimal to 30KM +? Sharpshooter by itself at 5 is only a 25% bomus to optimal range..or is there something I'm missing?
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Hannobaal
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.26 09:08:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Hannobaal on 26/06/2008 09:09:25
Originally by: Johann Callasan
I'm really not clear on how people are gettig these insane ranges on weapons that in their info have less than 10KM optimal.
What support skills are you training to get a weapon wiht 10KM optimal to 30KM +? Sharpshooter by itself at 5 is only a 25% bomus to optimal range..or is there something I'm missing?
You're missing the destroyer's 50% optimal range bonus, the optimal range bonus of the ammunition used and the range bonuses from tracking enhancers and tracking computers.
280mm artillery base optimal range = 12 km
Sharpshooter 4 = 20%
Destroyer bonus = 50%
Nuclear ammo = 40%
One tracking enhancer = 15%
12 * 1.2 * 1.5 * 1.4 * 1.15 = 34.776 km
With tremor ammo (80% bonus):
12 * 1.2 * 1.5 * 1.8 * 1.15 = 44.712 km
With a second tracking enhancer on there you'll get above 50 km.
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Iosue
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Posted - 2008.08.20 14:57:00 -
[80]
Disclaimer: i have a ton of isk and good skills so this setups is not for noobs. I've been using this for the last couple of months and have really enjoyed it.
PVE:
High:
7 x 280 'Scout' Artillery
1 x 'Malkuth' Rocket
Med:
1 x Pithi B-Type Shield Booster
2 x Shield Boost Amp I
Lows:
1 x Gyro II
1 x Co-Pro II
Rigs:
3 x CCC
First off, this setup is cap stable and can handle all damage from lvl 2's with no problems, though you may need to watch the distances involved with a few. Using Republic Fleet EMP S you can achieve over 1140 alpha and 140 dps. I find that an AB is more of a luxury than an necessity, and forgoing it allows higher damage potential and better tanking. I usually have RF EMP and RF Carbon Lead in my bay at all times. I can easily pop frigs from afar (30+ KM) then switch ammo and come in closer to finish off any cruisers. |
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