What roles do you see for new ships to fill in eve ? .
Here are a few of my own suggestions , are you for or against any of these or have your own idea that can be added to this list ?.
If any of these seem popular details can be filled in later.

A T2 - Battlecruiser - heavy interceptor - mwd bonus

B T2 - Cruiser - probe ship - scan probe bonus , intended to be an alternative to a t3

C T2 - Destroyer - stealth hunter - can equip a scanning mod that detects cloaked ships nearby

D T3 - Frigate - general awesomeness - whatever you want

E T2 - Frigate - stealth fighter - a weaker assault ship able to fit a cov ops cloak

F T2 - Frigate - smartbomber - smartbomb bonus - partly for the lol factor but could be effective for disrupting fleets and deadly against stealth bombers waiting for a covert cyno jump haha

Rather than fitting roles to ships you'd like to see, identify a role that is missing and then request a ship to fill the role.

3. Tenders - minimally armed ships that allows quick refits, repair, and rearming of other ships.

need a tugboat and a reason to use it.

Doubleposting for bonus forum points.

As far as I know this role has been left previously unexplored in EVE.

no t2 caps?

Gas harvesters.
Hacking/Analyzer ships.
a sort of anti air ship, uses a special module that autotargets neutral and hostile drones/fighters.
Cloaky miner, (might be filled by the T3 industrial someone came up with)
ship transporter, able to store quite a lot of assembled ships.
mobile cyno jammer
Mothership (not a supercarrier, more like a mobile POS/station)
Spinal gun ships, (think ion cannon frigates from homeworld.) as a sort of extreme glasscannon.

Light carrier - i know its been mentioned alot but iv never seen a decent argument against it.

Battleship sized hull, large drone bay, bonus's to drone dmg and range, no turret/missile mounts, able to deploy 10-15 heavy drones at a time etc etc

Not sure about the cloaky miner or mothership, but the rest of these ideas actually fill real gaps in the EVE ship lineup.

I've thought about a defensive anti-missile, anti-drone ship a fair bit myself. What it would need is for Defender missiles to be fixed (or some other system to take their place), and for them to somehow protect other ships in the fleet from incoming missiles (whether they should be able to distinguish a hostile missile from a friendly one is moot).

I suppose the incoming destroyer buff will make them quite effective anti-drone platforms anyway.

Well the cloaky miner is for people who mine in dangerous areas. should be a worse miner than the hulk but be faster and more agile, plus having a cov ops cloak, just so that it can get away when hostiles show up.

The mothership is to provide things like docking, clone bay, construction, refining, etc (make all the functions modules so that it cant have all at once) for people who live in 0.0, WH space and lowsec. simply a mobile outpost, similar pricetag, but trades survivability for mobility, ie, it can be destroyed but can also cyno around.

what...you mean a rorqual?

Tech2 battleship, codename: solopwnmobile.

Role bonus: immune to remote repping.

/thread

how is being immune to your mates repping you a bonus?

how is being immune to your mates repping you a bonus?

Gas harvesters.
Hacking/Analyzer ships.
a sort of anti air ship, uses a special module that autotargets neutral and hostile drones/fighters.
Cloaky miner, (might be filled by the T3 industrial someone came up with)
ship transporter, able to store quite a lot of assembled ships.
mobile cyno jammer
Mothership (not a supercarrier, more like a mobile POS/station)
Spinal gun ships, (think ion cannon frigates from homeworld.) as a sort of extreme glasscannon.

several people in game have also mentioned they would like to see a low sec mining ship , not sure where it would slot in though perhaps a t2 version of the noctis useing the ore industrial and exhumers skills with bonuses for mining lasers/gas harvesters not strip miners .

and make the hard to catch carebears impossible to catch.

also I like the idea of T3 frigates, wonder if CCP would look into that.

Gas harvesters.
Hacking/Analyzer ships.

1. A ship designed for WH mechanics - The ability to hold a WH open,

the abiltiy to launch probes into a WH etc.

Thats a role that will never be put in, as its retar*ded and completely nullifies a huge feature of wormholes.



The ability to launch probes into WH space? How about upon finding a wormhole and landing on grid with it, any anomalies/radars/mags that are inside consolidate all loot into a can and magically port it to your cargohold.

Is that enough hand holding for you?

You are very small minded aren't you?!

Those were all one sentence suggestions so obviously these ideas could be expanded on to make it balanced. I never specified what kind of probes or the mechanics of holding a WH open, so perhaps you should put you brain into gear before your mouth/fingers next time...

Says the guy with entirely half baked ideas.

Btw, exclamation mark suggests you are mad, so I ask.

U mad?



Perhaps you should stop being a moron and actually attempt to contribute to an idea thread instead of just throwing out brain farts like you have torrets.

No mechanics surrounding holding a WH open could ever be good. Its been discussed before. Its a stupid idea.

And do tell how....the ability to launch probes into WH space is anything but stupid beyond belief (or what you seem to think the benefit of such a feature could possibly be, that would not be completely broken).

1. A ship designed for WH mechanics - The ability to hold a WH open, the abiltiy to launch probes into a WH etc.
2. Black ops Orca - can fit a module that emits a bubble around it's self. The orca and any ship in the bubble disappears from local but they cannot cloak

Am i mad? kind of... wouldn't anyone be mad at so prick calling them a ******** moron with torrets?

Clearly you're a child who thinks they know better than everyone else.

Am i going to explain to you how i think my ideas could be implemented in this imaginary world where you think CCP actually give a **** what you say? Hell no, i'm just passing the time.

I guess when i come up with a ground breaking idea like yours you won't be such an ****... "hey you know how we have logistics cruisers? what if we have logistics frigs that could move twice as fast and be 4 times harder to hit? that wouldn't be OP right?

I take it you just got quoting posts to level 5 today...

You realise that everything you just said could also be applied to your comments in this thread, right? Thaks for making me laugh today, you silly little man

Snipers: I propose a module similar to a warp disruption bubble, that extends out to 150-200km. Call it a "probe jammer" This module does not prevent warps within the bubble.
What it does, is prevent ships inside it from being scanned down and having the enemy warp to zero.
Instead, when you scan any signature within the bubble, the closest "warp to" option is 150 or 200 km.
This would make sniping viable again

Blah still no new ideas for designing new ships, cmon people im starving for new ideas for ships.

Alas ill spill one

A field generating ship.

What type of field ? we already have suggestions for a cloaking and a local channel blocker . Verity suggested a module to interfere with probeing but I an not sure of the mechanics of that . Another path would be a deployable object that copies and gives off the same signiture as the players ship , basicly a decoy that gives off an alert when someone warps to it great for counter ambushes and early warning for low sec mission /site running

Hmm... a new cloaking mechanic that is not something that is trying to take away from us cloakers... interesting.

AOE cloaking would be neat for huge fleet ops. If you have a mixed fleet you need to hide but it would actually hurt the fleet to have lots of cloaks fitted on non black ops or cov-ops ships then an AOE cloaking device could be the answer. You would need to fly within a certain proximity of the mass cloaker though...

kind of like a POS shield but without the actual cover from gunfire. Just concealment.

I like a few ideas in here. Aside from bitter arguing this is a decent thread.

The Escort Carrier, Highsec capable smaller carrier. I agree with the more powerful drones effect rather than more drones.

Tier 2 Destroyer - Specifically made for exploration sights bonuses to Probes and Tank, exrta slots for Codebreakers, salvagers, etc...

Corvette - T2 Tier II Destroyer specialized in deploying EWAR bubbles.

-Static Inderdiction Probe: Lowers the signature raduis of ships in the bubble, scan res penalty, and targeting distance while the bubble is active.

-ECM Burst Probe: works simularly to the module, gives ships in the field a boost to scan res and targeting range but emits an ECM burst str 15 omni every 20 seconds.

-Gravity Well Probe: Slows all ships in the field by 60%, usable by interdictors as well.

-Tracking Emitter: Increases the tracking speed on turrets and decreases explosion radius of missiles on all ships in the field and also increases the Signature radius.

-Sensor boosters: Increases sensor strengths and decreases tracking speed on turrets and increases explosion radius on missiles

The last thing we need in this game is more capitals, let alone one that high sec bears can have.



These bubbles sound like ewarfare on steroids and replacements for fleet boosters. Thats a terrible idea.

I've always thought of a ship that is pretty much nothing more than a giant artillery cannon (race specific for each race of course: rails, arties, cruises, tachys) that has no tank, gets a ridiculous damage bonus, and relies on fleet/corpmates to point/web and to the target. The artillery cannon could do in the neighborhood of 50k a shot.

I've always thought of a ship that is pretty much nothing more than a giant artillery cannon (race specific for each race of course: rails, arties, cruises, tachys) that has no tank, gets a ridiculous damage bonus, and relies on fleet/corpmates to point/web and to the target. The artillery cannon could do in the neighborhood of 50k a shot.

I've always thought of a ship that is pretty much nothing more than a giant artillery cannon (race specific for each race of course: rails, arties, cruises, tachys) that has no tank, gets a ridiculous damage bonus, and relies on fleet/corpmates to point/web and to the target. The artillery cannon could do in the neighborhood of 50k a shot.

Good point.

Tossing a few ideas out:

1. Area effect cloaking field. Think starcraft arbiter.

2. Off-grid artillery - high damage, area effect splash, long cycle, very fragile weapon that hits the biggest sig radius target on grid (Requires multiple target painters.) Chance for friendly casualties.

3. Tenders - minimally armed ships that allows quick refits, repair, and rearming of other ships.

4. Spies/stalkers/hunters/shadows/bloodhounds - attach tracking devices to damaged hostile ships during battle, follows them like blood trails.

5. Mirage generators - ability to fake the appearance/transponder/signature of ships of a similar size until they attack.

6. Kamikaze - fast, extremely easy to kill, detonates (sometimes) on contact with wide area effect.

7. Combat engineers/demolition/trappers - sets up traps, trip mines, generates realistic bait, etc Maybe specialized quickly to blow offlined structures, towers, sbus, tcu's, anchored mobile bubbles.

8. Rescue ship - collects escape pods quickly and stealthily.

9. surveillance ship - intercepts enemy fleet broadcasts and decodes them

added the cloaking field ship as a t2 version of the tender also gerricks ideas and nova's can be combined into a series of special modules the t2 tender can fit to produce different effects .
Also added the missing lines of faction ships due to popular demand in corp chat haha , although I havent developed the cald/mimn ships .
I did in another thread develop the idea of a series of EOM ships but they recieved little positive responce so what would people like to see in an amarr/ gall ship line and in a cald / mimn line , and what factions should they represent. ?

I like a few ideas in here. Aside from bitter arguing this is a decent thread.

The Escort Carrier, Highsec capable smaller carrier. I agree with the more powerful drones effect rather than more drones.

My thoughts...

Tier 2 Destroyer - Specifically made for exploration sights bonuses to Probes and Tank, exrta slots for Codebreakers, salvagers, etc...

Corvette - T2 Tier II Destroyer specialized in deploying EWAR bubbles.

-Static Inderdiction Probe: Lowers the signature raduis of ships in the bubble, scan res penalty, and targeting distance while the bubble is active.

-ECM Burst Probe: works simularly to the module, gives ships in the field a boost to scan res and targeting range but emits an ECM burst str 15 omni every 20 seconds.

-Gravity Well Probe: Slows all ships in the field by 60%, usable by interdictors as well.

-Tracking Emitter: Increases the tracking speed on turrets and decreases explosion radius of missiles on all ships in the field and also increases the Signature radius.

-Sensor boosters: Increases sensor strengths and decreases tracking speed on turrets and increases explosion radius on missiles

Probes bonuses are tenative due to my limited time to verify that all avenues are covered, but the idea is that if all 4 probes are used at the same time, they all cancel each other out. I know this still needs work... but hey we are still working on it right?

Any thoughts on improvements?

A. Ever heard of a Heavy Interdictor? If another T2 BC comes out, it should be something that bridges the gap between Recon and Black Ops. Heavy Recon/Deep Space Recon as suggested class names.

B. This would be useful. I see it being built by SoE if anything.

C. CLOAKING IS NOT BROKEN! GTFO OF HERE WITH THIS ****! If not a T2 Dessie, a Tier 2 that can fit a bigger tank. Escort Destroyer. If anything involving cloaking is to be done with a Dessie, make a T2 Dessie that cloaks. Hunter Killer type ship. No detection of cloaks. That would break an already balanced mechanic.

D. That would be something to look into.

E. We already have Assault Frigs. Don't break them, they're just now fixing them.

F. Just no.

And if anything, the Black Ops should be able to fit a Covert Ops Cloaking Device to make it less gimpy.

Thread name: Seawolf in space

New Cap ship proposed: Size of a cruiser, but has all cap disadvantages:
A lot of skill points needed
Slow speed
Turns slowly when aligning (it won't warp quickly)
Very expensive
Requires a cyno to change systems, (covert or regular).

Advantages:
Has a special cloak instead of a shield, cannot be decloaked by proximity as regular CovOps types. As long as shield is above 5% the vessel is cloaked.
Has a high damage weapon. (Unspecified, but maybe something like multiple bomb launchers, 3 or 4)
Fires weapon while cloaked.

Counter: A destroyer type was suggested, using a new probe type similar to interdiction probes, but would instead strip the cloaking shields from anything within 15 KM. This effect provisionally would also pop any regular cloaks, but this may be cancelled by balance issues, or just tweaked to not make gate camps free death traps to CovOps.

If anyone has ever played the simulations for submarine warfare, most commonly from world war 2, you are familiar with this class of naval vessel.

Not a big ship, like a battle ship, but very dangerous, and focusing on strategies not found currently in EVE.

In naval warfare, these subs would try to sneak up on an enemy. They would observe the ship's progress, and then shoot torpedoes at the ship. The weapon has no eve equivalent, since nothing a cruiser sized vessel can fire will destroy a battleship in a single volley.

If the target survived, the sub did not make their life easier by sticking around on the surface, they stayed hidden and tried to finish the job.

Now, why am I referring to this?

I am suggesting a new type of capital ship. Smaller, (cruiser sized), and more likely to be undetectable as it never decloaks.



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Detail, if explanation needed: This really is not a traditional cloak. It put's the ship out of phase with other objects, making the familiar 2,000 meter decloaking effect meaningless to it.
This is why damage is exclusive to the shield cloak initially, as it is the only thing the rest of the universe can interact with.

(Yes, it can fire outwards, but only projectiles / missiles since they need to pass through the shield to reenter the universe with their targets. Beam weapons and hybrids do not have the needed time to reenter realspace before hitting a viable target)

Light carrier - i know its been mentioned alot but iv never seen a decent argument against it.

Battleship sized hull, large drone bay, bonus's to drone dmg and range, no turret/missile mounts, able to deploy 10-15 heavy drones at a time etc etc