There was a time when people were waiting for Diablo 2. Then Ultima Online appeared and many agreed it was "Diablo 2".

It seems we have similar situation with EVE now. It's just ~1.5 years to wait for "EVE 2".

I want to troll this thread.

I really do.

But I am sick and tired.

And can only write small sentences.

It sucks.

There was a time when people were waiting for Diablo 2. Then Ultima Online appeared and many agreed it was "Diablo 2".

It seems we have similar situation with EVE now. It's just ~1.5 years to wait for "EVE 2".

no other game has really attempted to try and get as many people on the same server, if ccp does upgrade eves engine they should grant unallocated skill points in the new client for everyone's characters, and obviously isk transfer.

They have plans which are being worked on, to replace code and re-architect bits of Eve which are primary pain points.


Brain in a box. (A major cause of TiDi is the rebuilding of character details on session changes. Brain in a box will help correct that, by offloading it to a different server, and removing the requirement for a complete rebuild. This will take work on /anywhere/ skills are accessed.)

Offloading client updates to a different thread, rather than having them inline.


It's not sexy changes, so you shouldn't expect much in the way of updates on it (you can only say "we're working on it" in so many ways) but it's being worked on.

The problem with that is:

9 women don't take 1 month to make a baby.


This isn't a problem where you can just get engineers off a shelf. 'Deep Magic'.

trite cliche is trite

You'll just have to trust me - hiring more coders/developers to work on a complex project will speed up the completion time of that project. There is certainly a point of diminishing returns, but that applies to damn near everything.

CCP,

It's been 10 years, and your game is aging badly. Have you ever considered EVE 2.0?

Set up a kickstarter, or get some capital some other way, and rewrite your Frankenstein code from the bottom up. That's all - rewrite it, make it tighter, make it cleaner, make it easier to adjust in the future. Take advantage of new hardware technologies and build in room to take advantage of future upgrades. And make it more compatible with walking in stations :)

And ****, just this once, sell it as an expansion rather than giving it away. Between start up capital and sales, you could hopefully spend upwards of $20 million giving EVE a much needed facelift, that'll hopefully allow you to 1) fix longstanding problems 2) run everything smoother (less TiDi, more responsive game) 3) add new features and upgrades without making it sound like you need the Rosetta Stone to understand how to code it.

Please?

...Between start up capital and sales, you could hopefully spend upwards of $20 million ...

..I just wish CCP would engineer a heavy injection of capital and speed the damn process up...

TiDi.

Node crashes.

Huge difficulty just allowing T3 ships to refit anywhere other than a station.

SMA's not dropping loot for a year because it was too hard to effectively code.

Freighter salvage issues because of problems with the code.

Walking in Captain's Quarters (much less stations) being a computational nightmare.

One second server ticks.

Terribad UI.

Wut?

I think you are confusing the head and the ass-end and are talking out both sides of your mouth while pulling random BS out of you hat (ass).

Capital comes from loans and the rich investing in companies at the beginning of a project.
Player subs from a "new" game come later as in returns on those investments after the work is mostly done.

These don't come at the same time, and the results of them are normally in opposing directions with payments on loans going out and subs from new players coming in.


To be honest, you seem to have no clue and are simply impatient.

Kind of like the paper-boy telling the editor how do his job after he's delivered a few papers on a summer job.


Or, can you submit this detailed plan on how 20 mil will solve everyone's problems with this product.
How did you come upon this figure?

So instead of just replacing the code one bit at a time like they are doing right now, let's just ditch ALL the current code and write the entire game up from scratch.

Awesome idea man, absolutely amazing logic

TIL EVE playerbase is bad at reading comprehension and has reaaaaalllllyyy low expectations.

And comparing cleaning up the code to WOW is just flat out ******** . . .

But to the non-trolls (and the one helpful guy who talked about the Carbon thingie I did not know of) can you think of a better solution other than status-quo? Seems like an efficient rewrite would almost demand new capital, and I don't know how CCP could do that short of a re-release/paid expansion, kickstarter, or (shudder) heavily ramped up microtransactions (NO, please)

...your game is aging badly.

It's been 10 years, and your game is aging badly.

TIL EVE playerbase is bad at reading comprehension and has reaaaaalllllyyy low expectations.

And comparing cleaning up the code to WOW is just flat out ******** . . .

But to the non-trolls (and the one helpful guy who talked about the Carbon thingie I did not know of) can you think of a better solution other than status-quo? Seems like an efficient rewrite would almost demand new capital, and I don't know how CCP could do that short of a re-release/paid expansion, kickstarter, or (shudder) heavily ramped up microtransactions (NO, please)

Good idea, though i think it would be fair simplier if CCP stopped getting sidetracked by other projects, such as DUST and Valkyrie. We can't even play these games on the PC! Seems to me that they'd be better off putting these resources into improving EvE itself.

I agree with your general idea, that EvEs ancient code needs massive love, and that its server needs to be upgraded yet again. But making the player base shoulder the cost is going to be counter-productive, especially considering how much they love to whine about everything.

Interesting, but not directly applicable. Mostly because it does appear that the problems with EVE's code are architectural, and a ground-up rebuild would make a HUGE difference.

Improve/eliminate the need for TiDi. Improve the ability to fix bugs on the fly, or add features that take forever to code nowadays (T3 reftting, anyone?) . . . . better UI, across the board, better handling of server queries

This guy gets it.

I just wish CCP would engineer a heavy injection of capital and speed the damn process up.

your game is aging badly