CCP,

It's been 10 years, and your game is aging badly. Have you ever considered EVE 2.0?

Interesting, but not directly applicable. Mostly because it does appear that the problems with EVE's code are architectural, and a ground-up rebuild would make a HUGE difference.

EVE was initially designed with a playerbase of approximately 100,00 players in mind (like 20k concurrent users), and was designed that way over a decade ago. It sure as **** isn't optimized for using any of the current generation of hardware.

They're already giving us "expansions" that add next to nothing of value - why not spend an expansion with no up front frills, just a lot of back-end work (that's what she said?).

Improve/eliminate the need for TiDi. Improve the ability to fix bugs on the fly, or add features that take forever to code nowadays (T3 reftting, anyone?) . . . . better UI, across the board, better handling of server queries; long story short, a more responsive game that is in a better position to grow in the next ten years, rather than reaching a stagnation point where adding a simple feature takes a whole team half an expansion cycle just because of crappy code.

CCP,

It's been 10 years, and your game is aging badly. Have you ever considered EVE 2.0?

Set up a kickstarter, or get some capital some other way, and rewrite your Frankenstein code from the bottom up. That's all - rewrite it, make it tighter, make it cleaner, make it easier to adjust in the future. Take advantage of new hardware technologies and build in room to take advantage of future upgrades. And make it more compatible with walking in stations :)

And ****, just this once, sell it as an expansion rather than giving it away. Between start up capital and sales, you could hopefully spend upwards of $20 million giving EVE a much needed facelift, that'll hopefully allow you to 1) fix longstanding problems 2) run everything smoother (less TiDi, more responsive game) 3) add new features and upgrades without making it sound like you need the Rosetta Stone to understand how to code it.

Please?

Clich+¬s are clich+¬s for a reason. It's because there's an element of truth to them.

As for believing you, you're not the only one with a software development background. Never assume that, as it makes you look more than a trifle arrogant. Adding developers to a project will /eventually/ give benefits speed wise. But first, they have to get up to speed with the existing code base and design decisions that have been made. And while they're doing this, they slow down the developers who are already up to speed

Interesting, but not directly applicable. Mostly because it does appear that the problems with EVE's code are architectural, and a ground-up rebuild would make a HUGE difference.

EVE was initially designed with a playerbase of approximately 100,00 players in mind (like 20k concurrent users), and was designed that way over a decade ago. It sure as **** isn't optimized for using any of the current generation of hardware.

They're already giving us "expansions" that add next to nothing of value - why not spend an expansion with no up front frills, just a lot of back-end work (that's what she said?).

Improve/eliminate the need for TiDi. Improve the ability to fix bugs on the fly, or add features that take forever to code nowadays (T3 reftting, anyone?) . . . . better UI, across the board, better handling of server queries; long story short, a more responsive game that is in a better position to grow in the next ten years, rather than reaching a stagnation point where adding a simple feature takes a whole team half an expansion cycle just because of crappy code.

CCP,

It's been 10 years, and your game is aging badly. Have you ever considered EVE 2.0?

Things to note:

- game is written in Python / Some C(++)
- data is held in MSQL server databases

The data will exist without the game.

EVE 2.0 could indeed be written and tested using the original / current data without affecting anyone at all.

Like the old standard and premium versions of eve , I can imagine a time of migration where some will stay with the 1.999999 builds while the brave few work out the kinks in 2.0001 build code.

I can see eve 2.0 being able to migrate all Characters and data fine. I would accept that and buy eve 2.0

If that's what you are saying.

If you are saying "roll back to the Stone Age" then gtfo

fail troll post is fail -----> if not fail post= "i didnt get to kill an erebus becasue the node crashed" alt cry post -------> if not that *throws arms up in confusion* i give up, obligatory sky is falling post

Such an Eve 2.0 would simply be a purposely longer dev cycle than the current. That is all.

They are already rewriting code as they find the time and feel the need.

Things to note:

- game is written in Python / Some C(++)
- data is held in MSQL server databases

The data will exist without the game.

EVE 2.0 could indeed be written and tested using the original / current data without affecting anyone at all.

Like the old standard and premium versions of eve , I can imagine a time of migration where some will stay with the 1.999999 builds while the brave few work out the kinks in 2.0001 build code.

I can see eve 2.0 being able to migrate all Characters and data fine. I would accept that and buy eve 2.0

If that's what you are saying.

If you are saying "roll back to the Stone Age" then gtfo

You cannot get rid of the problem by making EVE 2.0, because CCP will still own the franchise and as long as they do the game will languish just like it is now.

Aging poorly? Compared to what?

Bizzaro, CCP has done a horrible job of keeping its game even remotely current but CCP has done one thing very well and that is brainwash its player base into agreeing that everything is okay the way it is.....

They have never been able to do that.

The first part of the issue is that their are people who have played this game for up to 10 years and remember the way it was, how far it has come, and understand the diminishing returns of "throwing a whole bunch more people" at a problem.

The other part of that is that there are new players who don't know how it was, how far it has come, and think that increasing CCP programmers by 10x means things get done 10x faster.

Ten more cooks in the kitchen doesn't make for a better meal.

... btw you can add yourself to the list of people i was speaking of when i said CCP has brainwashed its player base into thinking things are okay as they stand.

Seriously crappy to less crappy doesnt mean a game is being well managed, it means that after 10 years it still isnt being managed correctly and btw you can add yourself to the list of people i was speaking of when i said CCP has brainwashed its player base into thinking things are okay as they stand.

You know, if you really want to make an entirely new game from scratch, you could do it yourself too and "prove" how CCP has been mucking up all this time...

Also, the amount of people who have apparently been playing a game they hate for years on end is staggering.

I think its easier for everyone to just let Star Citizen be EVE 2.0 and beat EVE until its a dead horse.

Oh come on. The only thing those two games share is spaceships. Do you really think RSI is going to allow the level of griefing that CCP allows?

Nah.