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Louis DelaBlanche
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:21:00 -
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terrible news if i may say so. The apparently random cataclismic explosion appears to have virtually eradicated all life on the Planet, & those who may still be alive cannot be reached because of the aftereffects. Is there anything that can be done to aid them over then the sit back & hope?
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Unuthiel
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:32:00 -
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Random? I rather think the capital ship seen in orbit just prior to the event may have a bit to do with it.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:37:00 -
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I flew into geo-synchronous orbit around it just 30 minutes ago...there are already unmarked battlecruisers congregating in anticipation of relief efforts, like vultures. The planet itself is seared painfully, with bright-orange magma scars running across its surface in rivers the width of a small nation.
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Karl Mattar on 11/02/2006 16:47:50 And so does the mighty Federation respond to calls for independence. They will not let the Intaki go free without destroying them first.
My condolences to the victims of this terrible reaction.
OmegaChief, you think a Caldari capital ship penetrated so deep into the vaunted Gallente space and did this despicable act? When your Federation already had numerous capital ships in the system? Please. Tell me another joke.
Karl Mattar LT, CAIN
--- My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect the official policy of my corporation or the State. --- |
OmegaChief
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:46:00 -
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All the Evidence points towards a caldari or possibly Amarrian Super weapon detinated on the planet, this coupled with the Cal Navy being scrambled does raise interesting questions.
Myself and Nero have investigated this and ti does point towards the State having some involvment
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Louis DelaBlanche
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:46:00 -
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well, maybe random was an inappropriate word to use...unexplained i think is better. I say so because I dont think a capital ship could on its own have such a devestating effect on an entire planet; but do correct me if im wrong.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 11/02/2006 16:52:26
Originally by: Karl Mattar
OmegaChief, you think a Caldari capital ship penetrated so deep into the vaunted Gallente space and did this despicable act? When your Federation already had numerous capital ships in the system? Please. Tell me another joke.
Reschard is a small system with no orbital facilities, an 0.1 CONCORD security classification, and jumpgates leading deep into the periphery of known space, specifically into Syndicate. Try and keep this in mind as you're breying and neighing about the obvious guilt of the Gallente Federation.
Like any rational, intelligent person...I reserve judgement until more facts are available.
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OmegaChief
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Posted - 2006.02.11 16:52:00 -
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Tell me karl, the federation has NO ships capital or otherwise in the area and it would be quite easy for somoen to sneak a titan into that system
I will not belive for a second that the Federation would ever destroy an innocent world for teh threat of a possible intaki Seperatist movment!
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Sendasi Iici
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Mattar OmegaChief, you think a Caldari capital ship penetrated so deep into the vaunted Gallente space and did this despicable act? When your Federation already had numerous capital ships in the system?
That has been one of the major points we Intaki have been maintaining. Our systems do not have sufficient Federation nor CONCORD protection.
Nor is the system deep into Federation space. It is four jumps from Pure blind. The Caldari could have brought the ships through the Blind...
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Filan
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:04:00 -
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this system has had some stability issues with the stargates since the explosion, everything should be ok but id avoid sending any important government officals through atm.
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sendasi Iici
Originally by: Karl Mattar OmegaChief, you think a Caldari capital ship penetrated so deep into the vaunted Gallente space and did this despicable act? When your Federation already had numerous capital ships in the system?
That has been one of the major points we Intaki have been maintaining. Our systems do not have sufficient Federation nor CONCORD protection.
Nor is the system deep into Federation space. It is four jumps from Pure blind. The Caldari could have brought the ships through the Blind...
Yes, we are motivated to drive you back into the Federation fold.
Neither the Caldari nor the Amarr had any interest in what this might accomplish. Only the Federation.
The Federation has a history of these kinds of actions. Or don't they teach that in your history manuals anymore? The Caldari do not. Look to your governors, who fear losing their positions. They have cause.
Karl Mattar LT, CAIN
--- My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect the official policy of my corporation or the State. --- |
OmegaChief
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:11:00 -
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Your so eager to blame this on the Federation arn't you? I've spent ever since I heard teh news report going through things to figue out what happened
And don't give me "the federation has a history of doing this things"
The state does too Remember what a ceritan captian of a certian carrier did hmm?
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Duodecimal
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:13:00 -
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He distracted the Gallente fleet so that we would have time to evacuate our population before you bombarded the surface?
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Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaChief Your so eager to blame this on the Federation arn't you? I've spent ever since I heard teh news report going through things to figue out what happened
And don't give me "the federation has a history of doing this things"
The state does too Remember what a ceritan captian of a certian carrier did hmm?
Yes. We destroyed a city, and in retaliation, you a planet.
Karl Mattar LT, CAIN
--- My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect the official policy of my corporation or the State. --- |
Morgana Janan
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:14:00 -
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What about the Molyneux? An Erebus-class Titan armed with an Aurora Ominae doomsday weapon could do devastation like this, particurally the melting ice caps. Serpentis stole it six months ago, I believe, in the Syndicate region.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:16:00 -
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Pointing fingers over Nouvelle Rouvenor and the bombardment of Caldari Prime are immaterial to the issue at hand. Atrocities were committed by both sides in what was open rebellion, total war. This is much much more serious, a clandestine annihilation of a planet without any previous declaration of hostilities by whoever the belligerent was. I think neither the Gallente sense of ethics nor the Caldari sense of honor would permit such an action without a formal declaration of war.
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Zevrik
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:19:00 -
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The Caldari would never do something as horrid as devastating a planet full of innoncents, unlike a certain other goverment.
This is an obvious ploy to curb the uprising of the Intaki and lay the blame on the State.
The CalNav is merely mobilized on the border to protect the State, you would mobilize your forces too if a nearby goverment commited terroist acts against it's citizens a few jumps away.
--- My words are my own, this post does not reflect the views of the Naval Reserve ---
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OmegaChief
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:21:00 -
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The serpentis have no reason to strike here, Also it was either a Caldari weapon or an Amarrian weapon as Nero has posted, we both ran through the checks once we arrived in system
In fact I was teh first there and what shocked me msot is the lack of any kind of aid from anyone other then pod pilots
Where is everyone? The Federation? The SOE? where are they?
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Sendasi Iici
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Mattar The Federation has a history of these kinds of actions. Or don't they teach that in your history manuals anymore?
Notice that I have not placed blame upon anyone Karl, I have merely given facts as to location and possible routes.
And I am Intaki, I know what the Federation has done to us; and continues to do, but all that is a far cry to what has happened today.
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Louis DelaBlanche
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:32:00 -
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SoE & federation personel have been to the sight but from what ive gathered the atmospheric interference is such that its impossible to reach the planets surface.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:35:00 -
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Not to mention criminals in geo-sync orbit just waiting for rubberneckers to blow away.
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OmegaChief
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:42:00 -
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Speaking as somone in orbit this very second I assure you there has been no violence and there won't be
We're all here for the same reason to try and work out what took place
Even if we have low security status
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:45:00 -
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Maybe. Maybe not. There's no mechanism to keep anybody currently hovering over the planet from being honest in such a remote system, and if time hadn't taught you already, trust is a rare commodity in low-security space.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville Maybe. Maybe not. There's no mechanism to keep anybody currently hovering over the planet from being honest in such a remote system, and if time hadn't taught you already, trust is a rare commodity in low-security space.
I think the multiple ships in orbit working for the benefit of those lost are enough of a 'mechanism' to keep cowards from interfering. ___
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Morgana Janan
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: OmegaChief The serpentis have no reason to strike here, Also it was either a Caldari weapon or an Amarrian weapon as Nero has posted, we both ran through the checks once we arrived in system
What checks?
The Judgement is an EM weapon. While plausable, does not explain the enviromental damage of this variety. At most, it would be massive economic devastation and radiation. The Oblivion is kinetic in nature.
The damage described, ice caps melting and scorched landmass, to me sounds like a thermal source of damage to me. The Aurora Ominae.
As for Serpentis' motivation, it's mischief. This incident can easily become a rallying point, "Remember Reshard V!" for tensions between the Intaki and Gallente, as well as between the Federation and State if the winds of blame go that way. Provides a stiking point for potential falling out between the Intaki-led Mordu's Legion, an elite mercenary company that frequently clashes with Serpentis's benefactor and protector, the Angel Cartel's Guardian Angels.
Additionally, it makes a point. Reshard V was an insignifigant world of no strategic or economic value with a relatively limited population. Thus it's destruction means little to the galaxy in the grand scheme of things. It sends the message that these people have the ability to slip in, destroy an entire planet, and escape undetected and unhindered. Next time, it might be a key world. It's like breaking a man's window with a stone, reminding him that next time it could be a bomb hurdling through.
These are criminals, after all.
Remember, the primary duty of the state, any state, is security. Obviously, the state - the Federation in this case - failed to provide it. Carefully exploited, this could be used in any number of ways. At the least, it means the Federation has to devote more resources to dealing with the cleanup to this mess and internal security and away from fighting the criminal cartels on the borders.
I am simply stating that Serpentis, and perhaps Angel Cartel (which, let's be honest, hold's a great sway over Serpentis), had the most to gain from the fallout to this action and the means to carry it out.
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Jon Xylur
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:53:00 -
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I doubt that the Caldari or Amarr would have done this. This is an act of terrorism, not an acto of war. An empire wouldn't just blow up a random world when not at war. Especially not a world with no tactical importance. The Caldari ships around the area do make me suspicious, especially since they have allready did something like this once, but the Caldari hold honour in great importance and the State is trying to maintain peacefull relations with the Federation (they're no friends but neighter side wishes for war).
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OmegaChief
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:54:00 -
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You don't listen do you
System wide scanners picked up EM radiation in massive quantities which could only come from an oblivion or judgment
Also an Anti-matter feild wouldn't leave much left of the planet if you think about it hmmm?
We considered lots of possibilities before basing our concusions on what was avalable
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Duodecimal
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Posted - 2006.02.11 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Duodecimal on 11/02/2006 17:56:40 Morgana -- it's equally possible that Legion would not support the Caldari in any upcoming war if they believe the Caldari are responsible for this attack.
This has to be a frame. The direct consequences are so wholly catastrophic strategically, politically, and militarily for the Caldari State that the true goal of the bombing was to severely weaken both the State and the Federation.
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Filan
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:14:00 -
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question is how do you trace a Capitol ship? the GBC cannot trace something that uses jumpdrives and as such bypasses the stargates.
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Kodan Ajex
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Posted - 2006.02.11 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kodan Ajex on 11/02/2006 18:19:29 its never to late we need to find out what killed the population of an entire planet. And i wont rest till i find the truth
Can the GBC help by letting us know if there was any strange reading in solar system
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