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Morgana Janan	Posted - 2006.02.11 18:34:00 - [31] Originally by: OmegaChief You don't listen do you System wide scanners picked up EM radiation in massive quantities which could only come from an oblivion or judgment Also an Anti-matter feild wouldn't leave much left of the planet if you think about it hmmm? We considered lots of possibilities before basing our concusions on what was avalable I still reserve my doubts of that explination. An anti-matter/matter reaction produces massive amounts of energy across the electromagnetic spectrum. Including large amounts of microwave and radio energy, and just plain old radiation. It's pretty messy. Not so much as old fashioned dirty nukes, but enough to screw up everything nearby. The weapon also throws out massive amounts of thermal radiation. The anti-matter itself isn't what caused the damage to the planet, just like in an atomic explosive it isn't the actual thermonuclear reaction that flattens cities but rather the shockwaves. Now imagine what a gigantic thermal wavefront hitting a human-inhabitable world with a large liquid water ocean and oxygen atmosphere would do. Like a solar storm, much of the thermal energy would be impacting the planet's magnetic field and reacting with it to generate magnetic storms. It is not an uncommon phenomina to see worlds with auroras near their magnetic poles, a reaction to the solar radiation. They're quite beautiful, really. The energy produced by a solar thermonuclear reaction and ejected into space is no different than of a small anti-matter/matter reaction. The EM storms would be created in part from simply that much radiation hitting and interacting with the magnetic field. Additionally, the planetary electrical storms arn't from the weapon's blast but it's impact. This world had a large liquid water ocean... much of which probably flashboiled upon impact. Billions of litres vaporized and sent into the now charged atmosphere creating a planetary thunderstorm. The poor inhabitants of Reschard V still alive are likely dealing with hurricanes of apocolyptic magnitude, a lightning filled sky, and rapidly rising waters as rain pours down. The world's entire climate is in ruins. The Judgement is an EMP weapon, using primarily radio and microwave energy, while the Oblivion uses electrical energy. This kind of damage is more like having a solar storm hitting a world at point-blank range... which to me indicates the Aurora Ominae.
Loimbard	Posted - 2006.02.11 18:38:00 - [32] The Judgement is an EM weapon. While plausable, does not explain the enviromental damage of this variety. At most, it would be massive economic devastation and radiation. The Oblivion is kinetic in nature. The damage described, ice caps melting and scorched landmass, to me sounds like a thermal source of damage to me. The Aurora Ominae. As for Serpentis' motivation, it's mischief. This incident can easily become a rallying point, "Remember Reshard V!" for tensions between the Intaki and Gallente, as well as between the Federation and State if the winds of blame go that way. Provides a stiking point for potential falling out between the Intaki-led Mordu's Legion, an elite mercenary company that frequently clashes with Serpentis's benefactor and protector, the Angel Cartel's Guardian Angels. Additionally, it makes a point. Reshard V was an insignifigant world of no strategic or economic value with a relatively limited population. Thus it's destruction means little to the galaxy in the grand scheme of things. It sends the message that these people have the ability to slip in, destroy an entire planet, and escape undetected and unhindered. Next time, it might be a key world. It's like breaking a man's window with a stone, reminding him that next time it could be a bomb hurdling through. These are criminals, after all. I completely agree. I am Louis de Loimbard, I laugh at you Arthur-King and your silly knnnniggets!
Andre Ricard	Posted - 2006.02.11 18:45:00 - [33] Ixion Defense Systems and the rest of the Cyrene Initiative is mobilizing now and we will be able to offer what assistance we can within hours. More to come. And we will find whoever did this. And make them pay.
Cygnus Arnimane	Posted - 2006.02.11 18:51:00 - [34] I do not think many of those commenting here truly know the impact this has on the Intaki as a people. We are tolerant and live in peace with others and the universe. This event along with the history leading up to it leaves us a difficult choice. It is clear there is no room in this universe for our ways. So, do we continue as we have and face eventual extinctions or do we change and fight back and in essense become that which we have opposed all along? The journey is the reward. Tao Proverb
Unuthiel	Posted - 2006.02.11 19:01:00 - [35] I'm telling you, it was the damned manipulative Jovians, fomenting chaos as they have done in the past.
Filan	Posted - 2006.02.11 19:33:00 - [36] Originally by: Kodan Ajex Edited by: Kodan Ajex on 11/02/2006 18:19:29 its never to late we need to find out what killed the population of an entire planet. And i wont rest till i find the truth Can the GBC help by letting us know if there was any strange reading in solar system we are still looking at our data as whatever did this threw the gates in that system offline for 30 minutes. from what we can tell so far is a very large Cynosural field opened, and something big came in then disappeared from visual drones however we did have to recalibrate the gates in that system do to an unidentified gravity well that was oddly moble.
Kodan Ajex	Posted - 2006.02.11 19:38:00 - [37] Originally by: Filan Originally by: Kodan Ajex Edited by: Kodan Ajex on 11/02/2006 18:19:29 its never to late we need to find out what killed the population of an entire planet. And i wont rest till i find the truth Can the GBC help by letting us know if there was any strange reading in solar system we are still looking at our data as whatever did this threw the gates in that system offline for 30 minutes. from what we can tell so far is a very large Cynosural field opened, and something big came in then disappeared from visual drones however we did have to recalibrate the gates in that system do to an unidentified gravity well that was oddly moble. Thank you this information has help us alot "The truest measure of a society is how it treats its elderly, its pets, and its prisoners."
Halunoto Vankaalen	Posted - 2006.02.11 19:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Filan very large Cynosural field opened, There are no Cynosural fields near Reshard. ----- All for the Good of Many Caldari Navy
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.02.11 20:11:00 - [39] Originally by: OmegaChief All the Evidence points towards a caldari or possibly Amarrian Super weapon detinated on the planet, this coupled with the Cal Navy being scrambled does raise interesting questions. Myself and Nero have investigated this and ti does point towards the State having some involvment Here's the answer to your question(?): officer: "Sir, we've recieved reports that Reshard V has been nearly destroyed, apparently by some sort of superweapon." High command reads the report High command: "deploy a defensive fleet near the area, if there is any sign of the attackers coming towards Caldari space, destroy them." That's just by theory atleast. I know that if I received word a planet was jsut devastated, I'd have lots of ships along the boarder near there to scramble and destroy the ship responsible for the attack. Personally, I think Sarpati was abit **ed, and did it himself. Looking at those burning scars, I'd say he has the right tool for that job. The storms can be an after effect of the raw amount of energy(put out by all the titan weapons) to cause them. Originally by:** Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Kitty O'Shay	Posted - 2006.02.11 20:13:00 - [40] In events like this it is wise to test ALL assuptions. Was the weapon actually fitted on a ship? Or was the weapon detonated on the planet's surface? Land based power and computer interfaces would be more suitable to fit such a weapon. It would also be cheaper and more expedient than to deploy a Titan class vessel. Does the presence of a cyno field mean a Titan was involved? Possibly, but any jump-drive capable ship could be used to transport the weapon and fittings for planetary deployment. The agument of "who has a Titan and who used it" could be inherently misleading. Such a weapon, minus ship, would be much easier to aquire and deploy. Remember, the saying "May you live in interesting times" began life as a curse. -- My drones are about as smart as a smartbomb.

Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.02.11 20:19:00 - [41] Originally by: OmegaChief Your so eager to blame this on the Federation arn't you? I've spent ever since I heard teh news report going through things to figue out what happened And don't give me "the federation has a history of doing this things" The state does too Remember what a ceritan captian of a certian carrier did hmm? Yes, he saved millions, and future billions of Caldari. Tell me, are you also speaking of the same Captain who had the chance to return the orbital bombardment favor and didn't? It has begun, the Gallente are starting their second (un)civil war. I am touched that someone thinks it would be so easy to sneak a Caldari Titan into that system though. Even if they took the un-watched systems, it is extremely unlikely that the alliances wouldn't have noticed such a ship and its escort. Ofcourse, EM radiation isn't just caused by two weapons. Even a large explosive weapon will generate tremendous EMP. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.02.11 20:20:00 - [42] Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville open rebellion, total war. So it is rebellion to defend yourself against blockades, and to wish to leave your Federation? If Blaque causes conflict with the State, I'll be sure to show you 'total war' little cadet. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.02.11 20:23:00 - [43] Originally by: OmegaChief Where is everyone? The Federation? The SOE? where are they? It's an Intaki system. Most of the Federation probably doesn't care, not that relief efforts could get down there anyway. Do you have any idea what would happen to even a well-shielded landing craft in those storms? It wouldn't be pretty. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Kyoko Sakoda	Posted - 2006.02.11 20:46:00 - [44] Let me be the second one to offer my condolences to whoever is affected by this horrible tragedy, especially the Intaki. It's funny that very few other people have expressed sympathy for the victims. Quite a thread, this. Learn what it means to be Caldari - www.omertasyndicate.com
Shintoko Akahoshi	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:00:00 - [45] No kidding. Most people seem content to point fingers and issue accusations that are pristinely devoid of actual facts. I'll be the third, then, to offer my condolences to the inhabitants of Reshard V. They're the unfortunate victims in this tragedy, and my hopes for rapid aid are with them. Perhaps donations to the SoE relief effort are in order. The Red Mom of WarÖ
Jon Engel	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:26:00 - [46] If this was perpretrated by the Serpentis, I advise Mr. Sarpati to go into hiding. His days will be numbered. If this is the Gallente Federations doing, either intentional or an accident, I think we all know what is to come of this. To be frank, I don't care who is responsable for this. When said proof as to whome is responsable for this come through. The Intaki people will rise up and obliterate them, with club and pike if we have to. Time and time again we said Placid and the Intaki people need a secure area of space. Now we have to die for there lack of respect to the Intaki people. It's time to actually help those who survived and find out who did this. When whomever is responsable for this is brought into justice. Than we can play the blame game. I doubt the Caldari would ever use a Titan for killing planetside people in Placid Nonetheless. I suspect Serpentis myself. Time will tell what the truth is. My sympathys go out to the Intaki and Others whome had friends and family on that world. The people of Placid must come together on this one. If not for a short while to figure out who is repsonsable for this.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:28:00 - [47] Mr Engel, I had heard you were visiting Reschard V at the time of the attack. No truth in this I take it then? ___ The world isn't going to end; we're not that lucky...
Lillith Blackheart	Posted - 2006.02.11 21:40:00 - [48] Quote: The serpentis have no reason to strike here Ms. Janan is correct, and you are very short-sighted and blinded by your racist views. The technical aspects of the pure armageddon unleashed upon the planet could not be cause by the Judgement or Oblivion devices. The Serpentis have good reason to strike there. The sudden finger pointing towards the Amarr and Caldari nations is precisely what they would want, as tensions are already high, and it may be the final straw that leads to war. The Serpentis Corporation is a pirate front, and heavy drug dealers. Such an entity will profit heavily from the chaos of full-scale war. They have every reason to strike there. Quote: I'm telling you, it was the damned manipulative Jovians, fomenting chaos as they have done in the past. Unlikely, but plausible. They have nothing to gain from it, not even knowledge. They already know what such chaos will cause, so they learn nothing from it, and from what little we know of the Jovians, their primary goal is always pursuit of knowledge. That aside, whoever the perpetrator of this most deplorable act is disgusts me. Though there is likely little that can be done for the people of the ravaged planet, as the Sisters have already mentioned that landing on the planet is impossible until the storms die down, I express my condolences to any and all who are affected, indirectly or directly from this travesty. I suppose that makes me the fourth. Quote: It's funny that very few other people have expressed sympathy for the victims. So much for the "inhumanity" of the Nation, eh Kyoko?
Filan	Posted - 2006.02.11 22:21:00 - [49] Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen Edited by: Halunoto Vankaalen on 11/02/2006 19:48:00 Originally by: Filan very large Cynosural field opened, There are no Cynosural fields near Reschard. well something came up on our sensors as one, so someone is screwing with us or its allready too far gone for you to see now.
Kyoko Sakoda	Posted - 2006.02.11 22:31:00 - [50] Originally by: Lillith Blackheart Quote: It's funny that very few other people have expressed sympathy for the victims. So much for the "inhumanity" of the Nation, eh Kyoko? You can find moral breakdown anywhere, Lilith. I don't remember saying anything specific about Sansha. I don't mind it, I just hate it when people say that they're above it. I'd be interested to hear some other Intaki opinions here. Learn what it means to be Caldari - www.omertasyndicate.com

Jon Engel	Posted - 2006.02.11 22:31:00 - [51] Originally by: Nero Scuro Mr Engel, I had heard you were visiting Reschard V at the time of the attack. No truth in this I take it then? pfffft. dumbass statments like that will make you all the friends you need Mr Scuro.
Kaeleron	Posted - 2006.02.11 22:40:00 - [52] How harsh Jon . . . Nero Scuro was honestly worried about your safety.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2006.02.11 22:40:00 - [53] Originally by: Jon Engel Originally by: Nero Scuro Mr Engel, I had heard you were visiting Reschard V at the time of the attack. No truth in this I take it then? pfffft. dumbass statments like that will make you all the friends you need Mr Scuro. I was seriously under the belief you were on Reschard V, Engel. That was what I was told. Nice to see this is the thanks I get for being concerned about Intaki lives though. ___ The world isn't going to end; we're not that lucky...
Jon Engel	Posted - 2006.02.11 23:05:00 - [54] I would like to know what sources lead you to beleive I was at the location of this trajedy. Seriously Its a dumbass statement.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2006.02.11 23:08:00 - [55] Originally by: Jon Engel I would like to know what sources lead you to beleive I was at the location of this trajedy. Seriously Its a dumbass statement. Kae told me. (( he was trying to RP you being offline by saying you were planetside, and I assumed, since we were talking about Reschard V at the time, he meant planetside on Reschard V. He corrected me after you got so ***ed off right now )) ___ The world isn't going to end; we're not that lucky...*
Iao Aopo	Posted - 2006.02.11 23:24:00 - [56] I am deeply saddened... that's all I am willing to say regarding my feelings about this. The conspiracy theories are coming out of the woodwork as they often do. The only point I will make regarding that is I do not believe the Federation would make an attack to keep the Intaki in line. As much as we feel the Federation is against an Intaki Nation, support for this ideal is minimal at best. This might provide the rallying cry we need to gain, at the very least, security for our homelands, at the extreme, a civil war. I am not a warmonger, but I fear that Intaki deaths will only increase in the near future, regardless of who is to blame from this devestation.
Alexis DeTocqueville	Posted - 2006.02.11 23:37:00 - [57] Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 11/02/2006 23:38:33 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia So it is rebellion to defend yourself against blockades, and to wish to leave your Federation? If Blaque causes conflict with the State, I'll be sure to show you 'total war' little cadet. What else do you call a War of Independence? I'm really starting to tire of the **** heads from the Caldari Independent Naval Reserve who get indignant whenever someone posts other than themselves. Can you possibly comprehend the idea that I supported the Caldari revolution, or is your xenophobic and jingoistic pea-brain just too stupid to comprehend any fact other than "RAAWWRRR GALLENTE BAD CALDARI GOOD" and compulsively try to correct any post a Gallente makes, regardless of whether it's true or not? This is the last time I'm going to respond to a member of your little corporation trying to play a game of semantics over something so severely trite. ((Seriously, I'm geting sick of the borderline harassment. That was a very benign post. ))
Morgana Janan	Posted - 2006.02.11 23:50:00 - [58] In any case, has anyone organized a search posse to scan the system in depth? It's entirely possible the Titan that commited this is still hiding in-system deep in deadspace, waiting for an opportune moment to make it's escape.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2006.02.12 00:02:00 - [59] Originally by: Morgana Janan In any case, has anyone organized a search posse to scan the system in depth? It's entirely possible the Titan that commited this is still hiding in-system deep in deadspace, waiting for an opportune moment to make it's escape. Numerous jumpgates have been detected being created, leading away from Reschard after the attack (why they didn't detect them before the attack I don't know...). CONCORD are refusing to tell us in what direction or what systems however. ___ The world isn't going to end; we're not that lucky...
Jon Engel	Posted - 2006.02.12 00:48:00 - [60] The questions to ask is, who has the capabilitys of A: A titan capable of obliterating a planets surface B: The ability to hide a Titan long enough to sneak in and do some serious damage and not be detected. C: Or to construct stargates and or anyother aparratus to evacuate a Titan's crew. I think we should look to anyone of the 4 major Empires, the Serpentis or possibly Concord itself. This is too large to be an industrial accident. I wouldnt put it past UDI either. ((CCP will probably not let us know who is responsable for a long time, and Nero, Ive stated in other posts that Ive been Planetside On Intaki. Don't know who said I was somewhere else, oh well then.))



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