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Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 20:26:00 -
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I reactivated my account for this ... WOW! |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:09:00 -
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To all you null secers not understanding the issue here!
This is not an issue with dieing, this is not an issue with TiDi. this is not an issue with bubbles or null sec mechanics.
This is simply an issue of not delivering on a promise.
When CCP says "Live Event" that sets certain expectations into play. When CCP fails on those explanations then THAT is the issue.
If I was signing up for a dangerous mission through dangerous territory and died in a ball of fire thats OK! If I was signing up for a trip into null sec and got owned then that's OK! If I was signing up for a massive fleet fight and due to the sheer mass of it then we were all TiDi'd to all hell then thats OK!
Those situations are all fine, but today those of us that logged on to partake in a Live Event and got anything but a Live Event ... that's the issue at hand.
A Live Event is not hours of TiDi travel! A Live Event is not hours of directionless mayhem with no input from those running the event.
You all think we are a bunch of whiners, however you just happen to see our forums. I know from personal experience there is plenty of whining going on behind the Goons forums. "Wha! This FC did this! Wha! This FC did that!"
Imagine spending hours following an FC around in 10% TiDi then you don't get to shoot anything and it was ALL ON PURPOSE by the FC ... then come back to us and say Yes I am fine wasting hours of my time doing nothing of importance on purpose! |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:11:00 -
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Michael Turate wrote:Didn't think much of the CCP end of event but the post event fall out is hilarious. What a bunch of babies!! What did you lot think was going to happen? You'd be safely transported somewhere pleasant while a nice CCP man told you a story and then you'd get some free stuff?? That's a trip to a kids pantomime and should never been in Eve, ever.
Plenty of people had fun with this event, study them if you wish to understand how to enjoy yourself.
No we expected to have a nice CCP man tell us a story then we'd all go down in a brightly burning firey death. I got the firey death I wanted ... now where was the CCP man and where was the story? |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:21:00 -
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CaptSummers wrote:Get used to it... we sometimes fight all night with 10% tidi... grow up Aerieth wrote:Michael Turate wrote:Didn't think much of the CCP end of event but the post event fall out is hilarious. What a bunch of babies!! What did you lot think was going to happen? You'd be safely transported somewhere pleasant while a nice CCP man told you a story and then you'd get some free stuff?? That's a trip to a kids pantomime and should never been in Eve, ever.
Plenty of people had fun with this event, study them if you wish to understand how to enjoy yourself. No we expected to have a nice CCP man tell us a story then we'd all go down in a brightly burning firey death. I got the firey death I wanted ... now where was the CCP man and where was the story?
FIGHT being the key word ... you don't get to fight. You have to spend hours of your life flying through 10% TiDi in HIGH SEC! |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:25:00 -
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Octoven wrote:[quote=Aerieth]Could you clarify as to why you have contradicted yourself here?
Yes TiDi is a feature used to allow massive fleet fights. Fleet fights are fun, massive fleet fights are also fun even when slow. Travelling through High sec is not fun, traveling through High sec for hours in TiDi is even more not fun. The post from CCP said "inviting all capsuleers to join them in this assault and bring down what they claim is a threat to the entire cluster" not "Hey all come have fun flying REALLY slowly through space for hours for NO REASON!"
I said the issue isn't with TiDi and it isn't.
The issue is with hours of TiDi travel through highsec. |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:28:00 -
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scimichar wrote:Octoven wrote:
Im not quite catching you here...you open your post by saying "this is not an issue with TiDi" yet continue on to state, "A Live Event is not hours of TiDI" as a reason for the issue at hand. Could you clarify as to why you have contradicted yourself here?
I think he wants CCP to turn off the tidi button so everyone will just blackscreen instead.
A Live Event is not hours of TiDi TRAVEL! I said TRAVEL! You can't just cut out half my sentence and then question my quote. TiDi in fights is an amazing feature. 20 jumps of TiDi is ********. I'm not saying you should turn TiDi off. I'm saying this isn't the first massive event and CCP should have been aware telling people to gather 20 jumps from where they would eventually need to be would be a major issue! |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:46:00 -
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Octoven wrote: The fault is not CCP, its the players for being sheepsih enough to all congregate in one system and all move at the same time. If you noticed CCP also mentioned on the tweet they posted that they wanted pilots to "TRICKLE" toward Ihal to avoid severe TiDi in every system, but you lot moved enmass and thus triggered it.
Right it's our fault for listening to CCP and going to the staging system? Next time your FC says "ok we are heading to XYZ-123 so stage up at ABC-456" and you just fly straight to XYZ-123 and let me know how it goes?
Also it's even worse if CCP seriously expected us to TRICKLE into Null Sec. We got our butts handed to us when we mobbed towards the destination (not an issue, just a statement) but could you imagine the limitless massacre as we all lined up in an orderly fashion towards the gate camps? |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:51:00 -
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GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:all i can say is:
to the people from hisec pissed off at the fact their FC bailed or went awol b4 the fight causing mass confusion / paranoia, sometimes these things happen. There are typically tell tale signs of a fleet being run by someone not competent enough and you should look to this experience as something to learn from.
Complaining about this IS tears ... so enjoy!
GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote: yes i know it was an advertised CCP event, and yes in that sense theres a level of expectation there, but like all things in life, theyre subject to being screwwed with.
Has anyone thought that maybe this high level command desertion was actually the plan all along to make capsuleers mad at whichever major faction was apparently spearheading this? just a thought.
That would be awesome ... if CCP was there with us as CONCORD leading us into the fray and dying alongside us. CCP showed up for 2 minutes and said "Go here" and then no sign of ANYONE. This doesn't make us mad at "CONCORD" for sending us to our death at the hands of Null Sec power blocs this makes us mad at CCP for screwing up the event.
GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote: most of what happened (including the camp) was exasperated by the fact you were lead into an active multi-alliance warzone. nullsec blocs rarely take part in live events to this extent because typically its not near an active campaign area. That and generally it doesnt interest us much, but when its coming right through staging systems, you can bet ur ass we'll be putting up a fleet to kill stuff. be it stuff sided with pirates or empire factions, its all the same to us!
Again I have no issue with the power blocs taking the opportunity to do some carebear killing. Congratulations to them. I know if I was in their shoes I would have done the same. |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:02:00 -
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Octoven wrote:First off no I cant imagine the FC scenario because typically FCs do not operate with 3000 players, thus they dont worry about needing to space those players over multiple systems to prevent TiDi.
Yes but CCP should have known there would be a 3000 player turn out and planned for it.
Octoven wrote: Secondly, CCP never expected or asked us to TRICKLE into Null Sec, the request was to Trickle from Sarum Prime 1.0 to Ihal 0.5 Once everyone were there we could then proceed to travel together.
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Fair. However CCP was not there in Ihal to lead onward. CCP should have been the FC in this case and we were let down by our FC and now we are upset. |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:24:00 -
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Countess Lamorei wrote: erm.. CCP were in charge of one of the fleets, 2 NPC's were in the one that went to Doril, people in fleet all knew of the camp ahead, many were asking for him to wait for everyone in fleet to arrive and other reinforcements. It was the ccp FC who gave the order to jump in and not fire and burn away from the bubbles that he knew were there. Ranged cfc fleet had a turkey shoot because of the CCP fc's orders.
My point exactly |
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Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:27:00 -
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Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:haha look at all these dumb hisec pubbies whining about tidi and bad mechanics welcome to EVE
Haha look at these dumb nullsec bittervets not having a clue what we are complaining about. |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:34:00 -
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Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:Aerieth wrote:Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:haha look at all these dumb hisec pubbies whining about tidi and bad mechanics welcome to EVE Haha look at these dumb nullsec bittervets not having a clue what we are complaining about. YEAH IT'S NOT LIKE WE DEAL WITH LARGE FIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS OR ANYTHING, WE'RE TOTALLY THE IDIOTS HERE.
Thanks for playing to my point. We don't care about the big fight. We aren't upset about dying. We don't care about our ship losses or the fact that TiDi made combat slow.
We are upset at the utter lack of communication from CCP for this Live Event and the utterly atrocious planning from CCP.
The getting blown up at the end of the trip was the BEST part of my night and I thank you for that. It was the unnecessary 2 hour trip through high sec at 10% TiDi with no input from our FC (CCP) that was most upsetting! |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:42:00 -
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Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote: Harden the **** up, welcome to EVE. You haven't seen shitall about bad communication unless you went on a sov-holding Test fleet.
So because a sh***y alliance in EVE sucks ... that makes it the norm of play? |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:47:00 -
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Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:Aerieth wrote:Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote: Harden the **** up, welcome to EVE. You haven't seen shitall about bad communication unless you went on a sov-holding Test fleet.
So because a sh***y alliance in EVE sucks ... that makes it the norm of play? Yes? Considering every nullsec alliance is like this except for like, two or three in the entire game.
If you don't like the way communication is handled out in Null Sec then you should probably speak up, maybe it will get better. Kind of like how a lot of us are speaking up about how we are unhappy with the way CCP handled communication during this event. |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:55:00 -
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Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:Christ now I remember why I never read these forums, people from hisec are just ******* miserable to be around, literally worse than -A-.
I've read FAR worse on the CFC forums. |
Aerieth
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:06:00 -
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GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:tbh i wouldnt bother arguing with Prelate Hucel-Ge if i were u. he'd argue about space being black or the sun being hot if it meant he could extract some form of tears from you. he is an ex-test line member after all
theres a phrase that describes the situation... dont argue with a forum troll. He'll lower the whole conversation to an immature level and then beat u with experience.
Message received, this is really my first active thread so I don't know the lay of the land :) |
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