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Tecro Masheta
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Posted - 2006.02.12 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Tecro Masheta on 12/02/2006 11:57:53
Hiya,
Been doing this lvl 4 mission and it's simple, that maggot is a seriously heavy tanker 
Can't kill him 
I've tried with torps and cruise and 3 wasps (kinetic damage seems to do the most).
Is there any trick ?
I'm thinking since I can't web him, mayby try to put on a local nano or overdrive to get close and put 2 x NOS on him. Reason is that he wants to orbit at 50 km so when I approach him he tries to get away leading us away from the station but when where're to far away he turns around and MWD's back to it so I have to keep him close and try to orbit. I think.
Any idea's ?
And the correct hardeners are kinetic, right ?
Tecro (Nashota)
Edit: It's a Guristas Raven, pff, noob ship.
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Buraken v2
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Posted - 2006.02.12 12:03:00 -
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Try painting him and using kinetic torps and nos him, if you still lack in damage well then start training your missile skills higher ;)
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Jinx Barker
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Posted - 2006.02.12 12:45:00 -
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You need to:
Get Close to him: 25k, because if you are too far, by the time torps or cruise get to him he reps.
Use a Nossie, thats the only module that works on the "boss" rats now. They are immune to Webbing and Jamming.
Keep Pummeling him at close range and nossing him - he dies fast enough.
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Nocturnal Avenger
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Posted - 2006.02.13 00:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Tecro Masheta
Been doing this lvl 4 mission and it's simple, that maggot is a seriously heavy tanker
Can't kill him
Killed him twice today using 6 AC's, 2 NOS and 5 valkyrie T2. It took about 2 minutes though - he did tank very well :)
Upgrade your skills/equipment.
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Tecro Masheta
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Posted - 2006.02.13 02:05:00 -
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Got him 
... and the station 
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Johnny Johnny
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Posted - 2006.02.13 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tecro Masheta
Got him
... and the station
Anything in that station? I've never bothered ot kill it.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.02.13 08:53:00 -
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The stations don't drop anything.
The three omber roids hold 90k m¦ each.
A single medium Nos seems to be enough to break his tank.
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prof0und l0gic
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Posted - 2006.02.13 09:56:00 -
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Yeah that Mysuna is a tough cookie. I had my m8 in an af and I used full torps, best named nos and all my drones and it still took a good 5 minutes. Nice bounty too, but usually crappy cargo. :]
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.02.13 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 13/02/2006 10:03:08
He is immune to NOS, so unless NOS is to build up your own cap, it wont effect how fast he dies.
EDIT: He used to be a 5mil rat pre-rmr. Why half the bounty CCP
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.02.13 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Arakasai on 13/02/2006 16:30:39
He also fires Defenders. So you need to get up close and personal with him to ensure he does not kill your torps.
It appears that it does not take 3 defenders to kill a torp, at least not his defenders.
I refitted (and purchased up to) the following to kill him solo:
High
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6x Arbalest Seige Launcher (Kinetic)
2x 250mm Prototype Rail (Antimatter)
Medium
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3x Active Kinetic II
1x AB II
1x XL C5 Booster
1x Cap Recharger
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2x BCU II
3x PDU II
4x Medium Kinetic Drones
I followed him at 1000 m using the AB to stay on his tail where needed. My torp skill is at 2 (Working on Tech II Cruise). I had to buy arbalest to kill him so I picked up a full set of seige and cruise arbalest :) I would have jacked up my guns to large but I lack the skill. Even with this build it probably took me 30 minutes to kill him.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.02.13 16:34:00 -
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At least Paon Tay on the Mordu's vengeance is very vulnerable to nos ...
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Posted - 2006.02.13 16:35:00 -
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I've been killing this guy for ages, even when my skills were teh suck.
The simple tactic is...charge the sucker down. I always use cruise, and if you are reducing the distance between yourself and him all the time, it is like getting an effective ROF bonus, which just tips it over into being able to kill him.
I CAN now kill him if we remain at the same distance, but if for some reason I need to run away (**** happens) then his tank gets the upper hand again.
Originally by: Avon
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Sancka
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Posted - 2006.02.14 00:50:00 -
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yup he is a hard git i had to put 8x 800mm auto's on my apoc and chance him down was unhappy that i could not web him but the rof killed him in the end
yes lazer suck on him but work well on the other rats
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2006.02.14 01:57:00 -
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i finally managed to take him down from 40km i think it was with 7 t2 425mm hybrids. Took a while and a few different setups but i finally found the right one.
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Mable
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Posted - 2006.02.14 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker
You need to:
Get Close to him: 25k, because if you are too far, by the time torps or cruise get to him he reps.
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What difference does it make if you are 25km away or 80km away? It makes no difference. If you shot a volley of Missiles (CM, Torps, whatever) every 15s they hit every 15s. The distance makes no difference as long as u are in range for your missiles. So he reps if you are close, and he reps if you are far away. The only difference is the time the first volley hits, but at that time he has nothing to rep anyway.
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Zortiander
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Posted - 2006.02.14 10:25:00 -
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I agree with that. ROF is ROF no matter how you take it. You can increase ROF if you approach teh target, because missiles take shorter to fly to the target. However, if you increase distance to your target after that, the ROF will go down.
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itorius
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Posted - 2006.02.14 12:31:00 -
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i've been trying to do this mission for 4 days now it is impossible solo, i have t2 shields etc. i breeze through the first two parts but when i get to last part i takes that long clear every thing, leaving the last rat i have logg off by then. by time i get chance play again server has rebooted and all sections are full again.. basically if ur not in a corp that has many ppl willing to go hunting missions i might as well do the same lvl 3 missions all time that i dont have to do anything but point and shoot..
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Decaro
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Posted - 2006.02.14 12:41:00 -
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The station drops cruiser/frig loot. Or it has the 5times I've done it, not worth wasting 5minutes on it.
The "Vengence" rat is a heavy duty tanker, I use 2 ships to break his tank. An apoc with ****ty gunnery skills (the tanker) and a Brutix with Blasters and AM ammo.
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Praxxus Dentor
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger
Originally by: Tecro Masheta
Been doing this lvl 4 mission and it's simple, that maggot is a seriously heavy tanker
Can't kill him
Killed him twice today using 6 AC's, 2 NOS and 5 valkyrie T2. It took about 2 minutes though - he did tank very well :)
Upgrade your skills/equipment.
Sounds like you were using a phoon. What sized AC's were you using and which ammo?
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Praxxus Dentor
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Buraken v2
Try painting him and using kinetic torps and nos him, if you still lack in damage well then start training your missile skills higher ;)
Unlike the other NPC's Paon Tay is immune to target painting. Just an FYI. I'm beginning to wonder if 4 torp launchers can even kill him. Thanks CCP, I guess I must train for a Raven with my main now.
Seems CCP doesn't want you to enjoy the game unless you have a partner(s). Fine for them = more subscribtions = more $. Crappy for us that just want to get on once in a while, leave the politics behind and run a mission or two then log due to RL.
The loot is really starting to SUCK. 300K BS I popped the other night dropped 1 Co-Processor 1 & 100 Devastator Cruise Missiles. Whoopie. Not that a 300K ship is much to brag about, but when they can tank like a 600K ship - you tell me what's the real issue here on why bounties changed?
P.S. I still plan on living in empire Btw, sorry about the temporary hijack there.
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mable
What difference does it make...<snip>
One word...defenders...get within 25km or so and he won't shoot down ANY of your incoming missiles. For Torps I guess you'd need to be even closer, as they move so much slower (but take more defender hits to kill...not sure where the balance point is...)
I think we might have to distinguish between the foes here...the Guristas one is Rachen Mysuna...I've never heard of the "Peon Tay" fellah...
Originally by: Avon
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Praxxus Dentor
Originally by: Buraken v2
Try painting him and using kinetic torps and nos him, if you still lack in damage well then start training your missile skills higher ;)
Unlike the other NPC's Paon Tay is immune to target painting. Just an FYI. I'm beginning to wonder if 4 torp launchers can even kill him. Thanks CCP, I guess I must train for a Raven with my main now.
Seems CCP doesn't want you to enjoy the game unless you have a partner(s). Fine for them = more subscribtions = more $. Crappy for us that just want to get on once in a while, leave the politics behind and run a mission or two then log due to RL.
The loot is really starting to SUCK. 300K BS I popped the other night dropped 1 Co-Processor 1 & 100 Devastator Cruise Missiles. Whoopie. Not that a 300K ship is much to brag about, but when they can tank like a 600K ship - you tell me what's the real issue here on why bounties changed?
P.S. I still plan on living in empire Btw, sorry about the temporary hijack there.
1. Level 4 missions were stated to be grouping missions. They no longer really are but why is there an expectation that they can be done solo? So, you now have a mission that perhaps you should turn down in the future.
2. I agree on loot, it is rather disappointing that most BS drop nothing and the rare few that drop something drop crap. I do not even bother looting on level 4 missions anymore. In the time it takes to loot I can do another mission which is worth more.
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.02.14 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mable
Originally by: Jinx Barker
You need to:
Get Close to him: 25k, because if you are too far, by the time torps or cruise get to him he reps.
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What difference does it make if you are 25km away or 80km away? It makes no difference. If you shot a volley of Missiles (CM, Torps, whatever) every 15s they hit every 15s. The distance makes no difference as long as u are in range for your missiles. So he reps if you are close, and he reps if you are far away. The only difference is the time the first volley hits, but at that time he has nothing to rep anyway.
It makes no difference on the repair rate. It makes a huge difference on getting your missions past his "defensive missile array". I have 6 cruise/torp slots and on a bad volley he destroys 3. Get in close if you want to take him with missiles.
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Godar Marak
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tecro Masheta
Got him
... and the station
rubbish n00b
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak
rubbish n00b
If you had a point, I must have missed it. Do you know any more words? Or maybe you could just grunt for us and wave your arms until we understand?
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Godar Marak
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Posted - 2006.02.14 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: Godar Marak on 14/02/2006 18:43:59
Originally by: Grey Area
Originally by: Godar Marak
rubbish n00b
If you had a point, I must have missed it. Do you know any more words? Or maybe you could just grunt for us and wave your arms until we understand?
Like this ?
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.02.14 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak
Like this ?
\o/ -o- \o/ -o- \o/
That's great, but I don't hear the grunting. Maybe it's my speakers, but without the grunting I just don't see this working....
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Posted - 2006.02.14 20:15:00 -
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will 6x siege @ 8.7 rof kill him ?
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.02.14 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Arakasai on 14/02/2006 20:25:40
At close range ... Yes.
At long range ... No.
My RoF is about 1 second slower than that with my Seiges. I use 2x250mm Rail and 4x kinetic medium drones.
So, I imagine you will have no problem at close range with that RoF and whatever drones you can muster.
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Nocturnal Avenger
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Posted - 2006.02.15 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Praxxus Dentor
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger
Killed him twice today using 6 AC's, 2 NOS and 5 valkyrie T2. It took about 2 minutes though - he did tank very well :)
Upgrade your skills/equipment.
Sounds like you were using a phoon. What sized AC's were you using and which ammo?
Not really - since the typhoon only has 4 turret slots :p
Anyway I fly a machariel with 6*650MM T2 (EMP ammo).
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