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Damaclease
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Posted - 2003.08.31 21:53:00 -
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Go read the scope forum its bloody amazing finally we don't need to listen to propoganda by corps. Please keep up the good work and maybe get a few more reporters as it would be nice to get it daily (i would even pay the isk cost to get it sent ingame)
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Snoop
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Posted - 2003.08.31 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Snoop on 31/08/2003 21:59:15 the Scope reports might aswell be SPY's yes lets say how big the fountain fleet is and exactly where they are camped while RUS and Sinister are still near by DOH!
btw i hope people dont get banned if they kill the reporter's its obviously going to happen if they carry on giving away fleet size's and locations while the area's are still active
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Daan
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Posted - 2003.08.31 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Daan on 31/08/2003 22:19:05
Quote: Edited by: Snoop on 31/08/2003 21:59:15 the Scope reports might aswell be SPY's yes lets say how big the fountain fleet is and exactly where they are camped while RUS and Sinister are still near by DOH!
I would love to see that happen :P
edit: about the killing, they fly polaris ships.
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Singha Miasong
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Posted - 2003.08.31 22:19:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Snoop on 31/08/2003 21:59:15 the Scope reports might aswell be SPY's yes lets say how big the fountain fleet is and exactly where they are camped while RUS and Sinister are still near by DOH!
btw i hope people dont get banned if they kill the reporter's its obviously going to happen if they carry on giving away fleet size's and locations while the area's are still active
whine whine whine, can't handle it if others have an advantage huh little kid   
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Snoop
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Posted - 2003.08.31 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Snoop on 31/08/2003 22:28:05 CCP arent suposed to intervent in any player stuff or i would hope they wouldnt. having there stupid polaris people in conflict zone's giving away locations and fleet sizes can result in people's losing ship's and any tactical advantage you did have until they post about it on the forum why shouldnt i whine?
it would be a different story if you was orgnaizing a large fleet somewhere and a DEV or GM told the enemy ships about it..
the least the polaris reporters should do is to wait until the area is clear before posting any information that can help either side.. EDIT Singha Miasong why are you hiding behind an ALT?
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Zaphod Robotnik
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Posted - 2003.08.31 22:37:00 -
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I'm sure, as a roleplayed news corporation, members of "The Scope" would not be at any location unless they have had an ingame tip-off from another player.
Personally, I welcome the addition of a big name news conglomerate - finally a good bit of flavour to the EVE world, taking into account current player-led conflicts and actions. --
Zaphod "Zaprobo" Robotnik President, Royal Communication Department http://eve.britishspacecorps.co.uk/http://eve.britishspacecorps |

starmist
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Posted - 2003.08.31 22:44:00 -
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Considering how news gets around in the in-game chat and e-mail, not to mention the out of game sources such as TeamSpeak I doubt Scope is reporting any secrets not already known by all involved.
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Gynlor
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Posted - 2003.08.31 23:01:00 -
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Quote: CCP arent suposed to intervent in any player stuff or i would hope they wouldnt, having there stupid polaris people in conflict zone's giving away
Why, thank you so much for your consideration. oh, btw ... there is spelled 'their' in this sentence.
Hope this helps. --------------------------- Gynlor Lead Polaris Player Support |

Snoop
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Posted - 2003.08.31 23:30:00 -
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Gynlor and the point of that reply was? 
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.31 23:41:00 -
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whats the url for the scope?
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Zaphod Robotnik
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Posted - 2003.08.31 23:46:00 -
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Scope News Reports
There you go  --
Zaphod "Zaprobo" Robotnik President, Royal Communication Department http://eve.britishspacecorps.co.uk/http://eve.britishspacecorps |

nono
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Posted - 2003.09.01 00:11:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: CCP arent suposed to intervent in any player stuff or i would hope they wouldnt, having there stupid polaris people in conflict zone's giving away
Why, thank you so much for your consideration. oh, btw ... there is spelled 'their' in this sentence.
Hope this helps.
I realize it was a low flame to call polaris stupid but couldn't you think of anything better then the alltime low of spelling teacher?
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Lady Jaxx
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Posted - 2003.09.01 00:14:00 -
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Quote: the Scope reports might aswell be SPY's yes lets say how big the fountain fleet is and exactly where they are camped while RUS and Sinister are still near by DOH!
Have you considered that RUS and Sinister may have avenues of intelligence gathering beyond lurking the forums hoping for Polaris to tell them?
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.01 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Molly on 01/09/2003 00:42:20 You Polaris people should stop posting this stuff as news. It is biased and unobjective bull****, especially the Venal thread.
Really.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.09.01 00:42:00 -
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You hate everyone, don't you Molly?
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Alexia Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.09.01 00:44:00 -
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Quote: You hate everyone, don't you Molly?
Naw, can't be. Why else would he stay around after "threatening" to quit five times? 
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true sight
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Posted - 2003.09.01 01:21:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Snoop on 31/08/2003 21:59:15 btw i hope people dont get banned if they kill the reporter's its obviously going to happen if they carry on giving away fleet size's and locations while the area's are still active
I doubt that very much. the news reporters are in Polaris Frigates. you would be greatly wasting your ammo.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.01 01:38:00 -
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No, I don't Wrangler. Asking me that is an insult, you are basicly saying that I am full of hate and this is not a good character attribute at all.
But I am used to high quality news and articles not this amateur stuff posted there. Either you quote people and write stuff covered by facts and not assumptions or you do some yellow press ficition, which is that what Polaris members are currently doing.
Call it "The Polaris Bild" or "The Polaris Sun" and add some big pictures with big head lines, but stop letting it look like a objective, unbiased form of news.
I don't know what you are reading.
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Eurydike
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Posted - 2003.09.01 01:43:00 -
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Newsflash:
There are no unbiased news.
It's just that you normally have a choice in which direction they are biased. -------------------------------------- Sarela "Eurydike" Taris
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.01 01:48:00 -
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Might be, but there is something like a quality of articles. And the articles based on facts have a higher quality.
The venal article is full of stupid assumptions, the facts would tell a completly different story, but I am too lazy to waste any time on commenting it, you can't even do a reply there. Every good news service on the Internet allows it.
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Eurydike
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Posted - 2003.09.01 01:58:00 -
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Post a new topic, correct the things you consider wrong in the article?
Alright, just as in real life, eventually no one will believe you. :/ -------------------------------------- Sarela "Eurydike" Taris
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:03:00 -
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No, I will not waste any time on Polaris people doing spelling mistake posts and calling other people hateful.
Intelligent readers do not comment unintelligent and biased articles to improve them. They read intelligent and unbiased articles and call the others unintelligent and biased. There is enough good stuff out there.
Since I didn't know the quality of the Polaris publictiations I had to read one. I will not do it again and you will not get any further comments on this :-).
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Eurydike
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:08:00 -
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That's fine by me...
You may be pleased to hear then that the British Space Corporation launched their own news channel BNN (the announcement's in the Faction and corporation board), that could fit your expectations more.
Oh, and IMHO the comparison to "Bild" is a little harsh. I mean "The Scope" has no pictures at all... -------------------------------------- Sarela "Eurydike" Taris
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Snoop
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:10:00 -
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Quote: Have you considered that RUS and Sinister may have avenues of intelligence gathering beyond lurking the forums hoping for Polaris to tell them?
thats why in a war footing you destroy all noob corp people in noob ships who enter the region. the same as we killed there scorpion that seemed to be scouting around. i dont care if they have other intel or not polaris or CCP shouldnt do anything that may help minimize casualties on either side in a conflict.. that may well have been very valuable knowlege for the attacking force and maybe the reason why they left the region rather than fight.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:18:00 -
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A fine piece of reporting. With regards to some of the criticism here, I agree that details of an incident should be kept hidden until the said incident is over. I do not know where or not The Scope personell did that. As for knowing where to go to report on these incidents, come on anyone who plays the game knows that pf-346 and FD-*** (cant remember the rest of the system name) are hotspots with something always going on. Word of mouth travels fast through EVE :) --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:28:00 -
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Obviously they have "Bild" quality. They feed the "TTI bought SI their battleships"-bias e.g. Feeding a bias is a technique commonly used by "Bild".
Every kid does know that most non-TTI VA members have bought their ships from Techell, because they have better prices than TTI and a very good service. As for SI, we always were able to count our battleships on one hand only and it took us longer to get some than the traditional mining/trading corps and we had to do a lot of mining/trading (also with alts) to go to there, otherwise no one of us would be in a battleship. Pirating itself doesn't enable you to fly the best ship in a short time.
Mixing TTI's finacial power, which doesn't play a big role in the VA at all anyway (they are capitalistic individuals), and pirates getting their battleships from TTI (which is fiction) and making it an argument for an attack on the VA by pirate corps like Evolution and CoC to harm the other pirates like SI to hinder their activity is rather funny to me.
Evolution and friends are attacking because they are bored with the game!
BORED. Nothing else, and it is a very valid argument to fight out of boredom to have some cool action.
No need to blow it up into a story full of assumptions and so on. Especially not when CCP is doing it, it haves a kind of official look then.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:38:00 -
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But now you just commented on their article, and you said you wouldn't do that.. 
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Snoop
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:39:00 -
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Quote: I do not know where or not The Scope personell did that.
one of the post's said: exactly how big the fountain alliance fleet was. which system it was in. exactly which station it was outside. while rus and sinister was still in the region for 2 hours after that was posted.
is it really that hard to wait until the region is clear before posting such detailed information? i think not. maybe it was a one off thing that will not happen in the future reports made by the SCOPE. i certainly hope such valuable information will not be posted again while places are still hot spot's.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:41:00 -
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No Wranger, I justied the calling of the articles "Bild"-quality by commeting the article in order to do so. That's a difference. Too sad, that you can't see it.
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Eurydike
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:49:00 -
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I think it's much more funnier with a full blown story you can speculate about and discuss.
But then... that's me.
I agree that I'd rather see a player, and not volunteer driven news service, but up until now they all failed, probably because the people running them faced too much negative publicity. But that's speculation on my side.
And other people are facing that, too... I think I don't have to tell you anything about that, Molly. :/
So it wouldn't be a real reason to quit.
I think running a news service is atm too much effort for start-ups. Maybe we need something like IRL? News agencies providing the news and then news services publishing articles, maybe after gathering some extra info. But then the service would have to cost ISK. -------------------------------------- Sarela "Eurydike" Taris
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