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Molly
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Posted - 2003.09.01 02:55:00 -
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Afaik (micro) ISK payments for in-game HTML content was considered a feature in the game.
No idea if it is impleted or when it will be.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.09.01 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 01/09/2003 03:18:35
Every single news service has been "soured" by a few players incapable of realising that all news is opinion and no news is ever 100% accurate.
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The venal article is full of stupid assumptions, the facts would tell a completly different story
Frankly the events of tonight/today go to show just how out of touch Molly is and how "in-touch" The Scope is.
They made a call and got it right.
Eurydike: I thought volunteers were players?
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Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2003.09.01 03:33:00 -
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<ponders> Wait.... there was a war in real life just recently... and if I remember correctly, they actually took reporters in with the troops... I wonder how much that hurt them... hmm, I wonder how that worked? <ends pondering>
News reporters get themselves in all kinds of situations and put themselves in great danger all the time. The usually get tips from someone at the scene watching what's about to go down. It happens in wars, high-speed chases, hostages situations, etc..
I think that if the newscasts are done in that sort of manner here it would be quite realistic. If polaris news reporters get a tip from someone, they can go check it out. If you want to amass a fleet in secret, you'll need to have people keep it on the down low.
As far as being entirely unbiased, that would be very hard if not impossible to achieve. But at least a neutral position in the activity increases the chance that there will be honest reporting. I'm glad to see a couple different sources popping up now. Another cool idea would to be having someone posting headlines on a Headline News channel or something like that.
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |
Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2003.09.01 08:50:00 -
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Yes polaris are players, which is also where part of the problem will arise. Players don't see things from a neutral point of view, as the Venal alliance editorial shows. Obviously it being an editorial one can assume it will contain personal views but the problem arises when those personal views are connected with the polaris volunteer name, and via said name with CCP. It gives those opinions a form of officiality because they are afterall posted into a restricted area by someone who is doing volunteer work for CCP.
As molly said the venal editorial is where the problem starts. There are unaccuracies and other information and misinformation in the article and regardless of how you look at it there is also a CCP connection to those. It also puts a difference between the reporter and the corps ingame. As we've seen with other news organisations so far(with them being part of the ingame situations) there has always been ways for corps to act and react to these. They were alive so to speak ingame. If I don't like the MDW or INO or whoever else makes news I can always go to war with them, kill them, put a bounty on them and so forth. With the Scope there is no such option, in essence they are an entity that is as much out of game as the GMs are. That in itself is no problem, atleast not until the thing happens and I notice that the Scope indeed isn't posting pure facts and verified chatlogs but opinions in form of editorials and other personal views on things. I'd like it about as much if TomB, Pann or Hellmar came onto the forums and posted their personal views on ingame events...
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On the edge of the world once more the day slants.
The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.09.01 10:51:00 -
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Is there anything else happening in EVE or will all articles be focussed on Venal? It's a bit onesided :/
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.09.01 11:41:00 -
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Li ShangYin
Ask three witnesses to a crime what they saw and they will give you three different stories.
Which one of them, oh wise and omnipotent sage, is the one with the "true facts"?
The Policeman, the 'irish catholic disabled single-mother of 14' or the CEO of TTi?
Bias is invariably little to do with the writer and everything to do with the reader... unfortunately not everybody realises that "true fact".
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Persephonie
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Posted - 2003.09.01 12:10:00 -
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Don't worry people, the New Caldari News will still be bringing you all the proper scoops  In our own beautifull style.
keep your eyes peeled for the real news....
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.01 13:23:00 -
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Whilst riddled with errors (eg reports of my podding are somewhat premature and there are plenty of others) in the details and certainly displaying a bit of bias, overall I really like the Scope stuff. It's nicely written and reasonably accurate on the broader scale and not completely partisan with effort being made to at least give some indication of both sides of the stories.
A locked down news channel is something that EVE desperately needed and I'm more than willing to live with a few stories that bend one way or another or some wrong figures to have one.
Personally I'd like to either know who writes the stuff, or if the authors like to remain anonymous then how stories are selected and what the criteria are.
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Damaclease
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Posted - 2003.09.01 13:33:00 -
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For the love of god people i would rather read the scope forum as aposed to reading any by TTi or evo they are both HEAVLY biased getting anything truthful out of them is hard just look at the number of BS deaths both say they caused the casualties either side don't match up so... a reporter that openly says an estimated number where destroyed is better than the propoganda.
As for the reporting of the war i doubt very much that the time delay from getting the info writing a report to posting would make too much difference and if 1 side asked the reported to wait no doubt they would.
Molly stop trolling - wrangler stop winding her up (it stop being funny 20 posts ago)
Damaclease
- scope was long over due hope to see growing
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