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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1890
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:41:00 -
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Some good deeds you could do: -Scout out camps at low sec gates. Hang out on the high sec side and warn people in local.
-Create a new alt and hang out in the starter NPC corp. Hang out in corp chat and give new players advice. Help them complete any missions that are giving them a hard time. Give them a replacement ship after they lose their first Rifter.
-Hang out in high sec and watch for New Order people doing their spiel in Local. Gank their Catalysts before they can gank a miner. |

Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
1172
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:17:00 -
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I applaud the OP's spirit and wish them well.
People like to carp on and on about how awesomely dark and gritty Eve (supposedly) is but, these same people forget that with no light as a contrast the darkness loses all meaning. All bad all the time is just as boring as all good all the time. A realistic game world needs both. CCP really should remember that as well. |

RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
337
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:18:00 -
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Eve will eventually turn you bad. I use to pet kittens now I throw them in heavy traffic on the interstate thanks EVE. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3192
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:28:00 -
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I post in New Citizens Q & A sometimes with helpful tips and advice.
That makes me one of the good guys, right?
RIGHT?
Say yes or feel my wrath.
Mr Epeen  |

Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
369
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:36:00 -
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I'm a good guy, and I feel like my sunny disposition has helped me nearly win this game a number of times...
/p |

Haedonism Bot
Viziam Amarr Empire
424
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:38:00 -
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I am an excellent person beloved by all. |

Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
71
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:37:00 -
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There definitely should be more options for "good guys"
If everyone is "the villain" is anyone really a villain? |

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Desperado-Enforcement LLC
10
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:41:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Some good deeds you could do: [...] -Hang out in high sec and watch for New Order people doing their spiel in Local. Gank their Catalysts before they can gank a miner.
How is encouraging botting and afking in space a good deed?
More seriously, the best way to be a "good guy" in eve is to help new players. Being active in help chat channels, on the forums, or joining organizations such as eve uni or brave newbies can be immensely helpful. Staying near starter systems, or in npc corps and directing players to such organizations is equally valuable. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1530
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:44:00 -
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You can be a good guy without being a complete *******. Just look at Chribba, Keith Eaton, and Tau Cabalander: they're all good guys, but I'm sure they've murdered more than a few capsuleers (not to mention NPCs and rocks) in their time... 
Edit: seems the board doesn't like "s c h m u c k" even tho that's not a nasty word... |

Taal Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
67
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:02:00 -
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Skeln Thargensen wrote:there isn't really good but there's lawful.
for example CVA, they operate on a Not Red Don't Shoot basis so they don't shoot neutrals in their space (for the most part)
CVA are Amarr aligned though, therefor Lawful Evil.
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
643
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:31:00 -
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Chribba wrote:There's lots of good people I'm sure, but not many of them has the strength or time to show it as the way to get the label is very long.
/c
To be honest, I think some PvP folks have got themselves stamped with a "bad" label, unjustly. I'm not even being goofball, right now. I feel that if you're in a lowsec system, you should accept the risk. I assume that most of the people who live in those solar systems are there because they don't mind being shot, or at least have determined the risk is worth the potential reward. You do run into the occasional "poor sport", but overall, I have noticed a lot of pilots out in the "less desirable" areas of space have the same attitude towards fighting that I do... that being that it's fun.
So, indeed, yes... my Ferox does honestly just want to be friends. The fact that it's melting someone's tank doesn't change that truth. I don't think there should be any distinction drawn between a player who shoots other people, and a player who mines asteroids. Both can add equal value to the community, and both can be either good or bad. |

Leviathan84
Empty Wallets Inc. Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:39:00 -
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Yes, the next time there is a live event YOU can actually get 10-20 people together and help them understand how to participate in a way better than "Follow blob, warp to zero on every gate, and blindly jump into the shark infested waters of nullsec."
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Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:44:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The most valuable thing you can own in this game is trust.
Indeed. |

Jythier Smith
Sequestration INC. Harmonic Convergence
63
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:55:00 -
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The anonymous nature of this game, especially with alternate characters, allow for everyone to act like jerks pretty much all of the time if they want.
Joining a corporation just to gain trust and then steal everything is more fun than gaming with people you can trust not to do that for some people. I'm looking forward to the day someone will show that trust in me, give me access to everything, and then everyday after that I can specifically not take it. Why? Because I value the relationship with my corpmates as more important than ISK or BPs. Unless they're Tech 2 BPOs. Then, they're mine and nobody's going to stop me. |

Jythier Smith
Sequestration INC. Harmonic Convergence
63
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:56:00 -
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Richard Ramlrez wrote:baltec1 wrote:The most valuable thing you can own in this game is trust. Indeed.
Right, 'cuz you can trade it in for ISK and BPs! |

Shiva Darksun
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:06:00 -
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Years ago, before I left EVE, I was helping a corp mate with a "life-in-a-box" transport off a region which was assaulted by PL. We ended up in a WH system and traveled to another, and so on, and at some point we entered yet another WH system and were greeted in local by someone.
He said "hi there!" and we were pretty sure that was the end of us. I was in a CovOps ship and my mate had a.... a... Geez, I don't remember. An Orca or something. So we had no firepower or any defensive capabilities to speak of, and he was carrying over 15B worth of stuff.
So we talked to this guy and turned out he was monitoring the WH for neutrals or enemies. We told him our story and he offered to lead us to a WH exit to lowsec; we suspected betrayal but decided to trust him. He not only led us out, but he helped us go all the way to hisec.
He was a good guy. Sadly, I can't remember his name but we were impressed.
But that's the downside of being a good guy; people remember you for far less time than if you destroy their ships. |

Jythier Smith
Sequestration INC. Harmonic Convergence
63
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:08:00 -
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Shiva Darksun wrote:Years ago, before I left EVE, I was helping a corp mate with a "life-in-a-box" transport off a region which was assaulted by PL. We ended up in a WH system and traveled to another, and so on, and at some point we entered yet another WH system and were greeted in local by someone.
He said "hi there!" and we were pretty sure that was the end of us. I was in a CovOps ship and my mate had a.... a... Geez, I don't remember. An Orca or something. So we had no firepower or any defensive capabilities to speak of, and he was carrying over 15B worth of stuff.
So we talked to this guy and turned out he was monitoring the WH for neutrals or enemies. We told him our story and he offered to lead us to a WH exit to lowsec; we suspected betrayal but decided to trust him. He not only led us out, but he helped us go all the way to hisec.
He was a good guy. Sadly, I can't remember his name but we were impressed.
But that's the downside of being a good guy; people remember you for far less time than if you destroy their ships.
Judging by my experience with WH guys, he was so relieved you weren't there to destroy his entire life that he helped you. :P |

Shiva Darksun
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:17:00 -
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No, they had an established system there and it's very easy to close a WH; I think he was there as a scout to instantiate PvP but not against helpless, non-aggressive travelers. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
989
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:44:00 -
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Why dont you come join us in CVA down in Providence, OP?
Probably the closest thing you will find to *good guys* in EVE.
We give people the benefit of the doubt and allow them to mine our asteroid fields and shoot our Sansha, while we attempt to protect them from pirates to the best of our abilities. All we ask in return is that they return the favour and dont shoot anyone either.
We have seen alot of elite PVP and pirate empires come and go, yet with our good guy playstyle, we have endured nearly 10 years now. |

Jythier Smith
Sequestration INC. Harmonic Convergence
65
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Posted - 2013.11.08 21:15:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Why dont you come join us in CVA down in Providence, OP?
Probably the closest thing you will find to *good guys* in EVE.
We give people the benefit of the doubt and allow them to mine our asteroid fields and shoot our Sansha, while we attempt to protect them from pirates to the best of our abilities. All we ask in return is that they return the favour and dont shoot anyone either.
We have seen alot of elite PVP and pirate empires come and go, yet with our good guy playstyle, we have endured nearly 10 years now.
You almost just recruited me. |
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Black Canary Jnr
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
39
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:13:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Why dont you come join us in CVA down in Providence, OP?
Probably the closest thing you will find to *good guys* in EVE.
We give people the benefit of the doubt and allow them to mine our asteroid fields and shoot our Sansha, while we attempt to protect them from pirates to the best of our abilities. All we ask in return is that they return the favour and dont shoot anyone either.
We have seen alot of elite PVP and pirate empires come and go, yet with our good guy playstyle, we have endured nearly 10 years now.
This, except if you are any good at pvp join sev3rance :P hohohoho
If you're interested have a listen to aralis' talk in the e-uni archives, http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/EVE_University_Class_Library |

Kinis Deren
The Nyan Cat Pirates Disband.
209
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:59:00 -
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Interesting & thought provoking post OP +1
Other than the previously mentioned CVA or anti-pirate groups, I'm struggling to think of any other groups (outside of hi sec) that could be described as aiming for a 'good guy' group play style. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
653
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Posted - 2013.11.09 01:47:00 -
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I don't really understand OP. Title is "Being a good guy", but then OP refuses to define what "good" is to her. Some instances of "good" have been mentioned, but no concrete definition of good is to be had.
I like to think of myself as a good guy in New Eden. I help miners learn about tanking their 200m exhumers and watching local so that they don't have to learn painful lessons with their battleships and such later on. A couple of weeks ago a couple of guys came in my wh system in a Mackinaw and a Drake. Not understanding the mechanics of whs I guess, they didn't realize they collapsed the thing with their last trip in. Since they didn't have a probe launcher between them, I gave them an exit from the wh lest they be trapped forever. I cherish their corpses and the time we spent together.
Sure there was that time a Probe was just sitting in the ore anom, not even cloaked, and I pinned him with my Loki while my friend warped in so we could both get in on the km. But after scooping his corpse we noticed he was only a few days old. So we convo'd him, gave him some tips (stay out of whs for awhile) and gave him some isk to cover the next few Probes he might lose.
Am I not good?
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Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
698
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:01:00 -
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Well lol OP thats a good point....
hope to see if there is any chance for ingame to be a "nice" guy. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1403
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:21:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:I don't really understand OP. Title is "Being a good guy", but then OP refuses to define what "good" is to her. Some instances of "good" have been mentioned, but no concrete definition of good is to be had.
I like to think of myself as a good guy in New Eden. I help miners learn about tanking their 200m exhumers and watching local so that they don't have to learn painful lessons with their battleships and such later on. A couple of weeks ago a couple of guys came in my wh system in a Mackinaw and a Drake. Not understanding the mechanics of whs I guess, they didn't realize they collapsed the thing with their last trip in. Since they didn't have a probe launcher between them, I gave them an exit from the wh lest they be trapped forever. I cherish their corpses and the time we spent together.
Sure there was that time a Probe was just sitting in the ore anom, not even cloaked, and I pinned him with my Loki while my friend warped in so we could both get in on the km. But after scooping his corpse we noticed he was only a few days old. So we convo'd him, gave him some tips (stay out of whs for awhile) and gave him some isk to cover the next few Probes he might lose.
Am I not good?
Some lessons are more valuable than mere isk. |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
653
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:29:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote: Am I not good?
Sorry, mate.... but that bit just made me think of "AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?!" |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4485
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:35:00 -
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Richard Ramlrez wrote:baltec1 wrote:The most valuable thing you can own in this game is trust. Indeed.
No, like for RL, the most valuable asset is time. Trust comes with time (and effort) and is the second most valuable asset. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4486
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:39:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:Interesting & thought provoking post OP +1
Other than the previously mentioned CVA or anti-pirate groups, I'm struggling to think of any other groups (outside of hi sec) that could be described as aiming for a 'good guy' group play style.
There are plenty of good guys. My alts have been with truly fantastic guys trusting a (back in time) newbie (me) with lots of stuff, gifting him tons of goodies and ships and even teachings.
Plenty of people willing to teach valuable stuff both in game and in written (tutorials, software) form.
Even I, try doing a tiny good by managing a charity. An in game => RL charity standing since 2011 in the cold, harsh EvE universe. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5110
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Posted - 2013.11.09 03:47:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Am I not good? Sorry, mate.... but that bit just made me think of "AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?!" are you not entertained |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2093
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:26:00 -
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I'm a good guy in eve online. |
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