http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/11/my-brother-did-it-part-1.html

http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/11/my-brother-did-it-part-2.html

As confirmed via API, Heavy Rayne has received approximately 17 million skillpoints onto his character as the result of asking for it from CCP. I requested CCP speak to me before taking any action, but I did not receive a response.

Hey you know, I forgot to train for over 5 months on 2 accounts that were paid in full due to spouse aggro. Can I have those skillpoints? Can I have the skillpoints for the other days/weeks I forgot across all my accounts? I have 22 accounts I think we should check over to ensure they all have the maximium skillpoints they would have earned with my implants.

Is there anyone else in the community who feels they should have more skillpoints than they presently have? Skillpoints are up for grabs if you just ask!

Now you guys all know that I really do love CCP. But after Somer, etc, seriously!?

WTF CCP?

-Ero

http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/11/my-brother-did-it-part-1.html

http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/11/my-brother-did-it-part-2.html

As confirmed via API, Heavy Rayne has received approximately 17 million skillpoints onto his character as the result of asking for it from CCP. I requested CCP speak to me before taking any action, but I did not receive a response.

Hey you know, I forgot to train for over 5 months on 2 accounts that were paid in full due to spouse aggro. Can I have those skillpoints? Can I have the skillpoints for the other days/weeks I forgot across all my accounts? I have 22 accounts I think we should check over to ensure they all have the maximium skillpoints they would have earned with my implants.

Is there anyone else in the community who feels they should have more skillpoints than they presently have? Skillpoints are up for grabs if you just ask!

Now you guys all know that I really do love CCP. But after Somer, etc, seriously!?

WTF CCP?

-Ero

*edit* I am not discussing anything within a petition. This information is freely available via API. All I know is that I was told he would petition for his skillpoints back and he received them.

Also, I will be running for CSM next year. You can be sure that Erotica 1 will work hard for the community.

I think people here are not understanding the OP.

Heavy received 17mil SP for free, after his actions, which included account sharing, set him back that much in skillpoints.

A point is being made.

That CCP likes to play favorites.

And that every single day, EvE turns just a tiny bit more into every other MMO out there.

I have no valid reason, can I get some too please?

Stop posting and biomass. This isn't a slap in the face to Eve at all. It's a nice troll of highsec gankbears.

Cry more, nerds.

So what you're saying is that this is a slap in the face to gankers who can't fight things that shoot back and hilarious?

Also, I will be running for CSM next year. You can be sure that Erotica 1 will work hard for the community.

Fix'd. Anyway brb, popcorn.

So what you're saying is that it's not OK to harass others because you disagree with someone else's playstyle for some reason and have to compensate for an inability to actually pvp?
Got it.

So what you're saying is that account sharing is okay because you disagree with someone else's playstyle for some reason?

Got it.

So what you're saying is that account sharing is okay because you disagree with someone else's playstyle for some reason?

Got it.

Glad we're in agreement.

o7 m8

Glad we're in agreement.

o7 m8

Explain where any harassment took place.

I'll wait. :)

You making me reply to this thread is harassment enough. Talk is cheap though.

Bleak Lands. Kourmonen. I'm based there. If you 'content creators' would like to further assist 'content creashuns' and silence a horrible pro-bot aspirant loser, please. Come hither.

And before you rebut with "why don't you come after us, silly carebear coward," CONCORD said I'm not allowed to.

But hey plenty of content to create down here! Come on down!

Stop posting and biomass. This isn't a slap in the face to Eve at all. It's a nice troll of highsec gankbears.

Cry more, nerds.

has CCP ever really cared about account sharing? I feel like every nullsec corp I was in I've run into a few people or directors who shared accounts.

Also, this guy saying he was getting on his brother's account, or saying that to his CEO doesn't necessarily make it true. Do you believe everything you're told on the internet? I don't think the API lets you see his IP address or his login information, only CCP can see that. And what they see is two accounts, probably logging in from the same location, and perhaps even paid under the same name from the same card. Despite what was said in game, CCP probably doesn't have any concrete indication of account sharing.

As for skillpoints, post screenshots of lost SP and restored SP.

I also kinda wished you'd posted logs of how you originally came into contact with this guy and conned him into giving away his assets and podding himself. The most interesting part of the scam is how its pulled off, but I don't see any of that here. No screenshots of wallet, no screenshots of traded assets. No screenshots of before/after character sheets. Disappointing.

What the actual **** is a 'gankbear'? None of you people who use that nonsensical word can actually explain it.

Stop shitposting.

So you start an argument and when you lose "talk is cheap".

Just lol@you right now.

I'll make it simple. It isn't an argument. It's me **** talking you and stating facts. Gankers won't come to low. Prove me wrong, come down, and shut me up. Otherwise, I win as far as I'm concerned :)

Nerd.

INB4L

Also INB4 CCP reinburses all losses from the live event.

1) You haven't stated any facts.
2) You're not **** talking - you're **** posting.
3) Why do I have to come to LowSec? I've never ganked anyone.
4) Killing someone who is engaged in an honorable duel is not "ganking".
5) You obviously feel the need to wave your epeen around about what an "elitePVPer" you are and how your playstyle is better than others.
6) You've lost the argument, and now you're acting like you're playing Diablo 2 or WoW saying "come duel me! ill show you!"

It is sooooo hilarious watching all of the NPCbears (since everything evidently is labeled with bear, now...) whenever the idiots do something against the rules, and CCP caters to them, playing favorites.

Nothing like supporting your own, huh?

NO YOU!

Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks...

Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks...

GOOD JOB CCP


Please give more CareBears more free ingame stuff.


ffs

When this kid does something else dumb, and blames his "brother" for it, a second time... he's gonna get permabanned.
Scammers tell on themselves. The only scammer in this situation was Heavy Tears.
He broke Erotica's rules, and couldn't deal with the consequences. Don't gamble if you're not willing to lose everything on a chance. It's the same as flying through lowsec.

has CCP ever really cared about account sharing? I feel like every nullsec corp I was in I've run into a few people or directors who shared accounts.

Also, this guy saying he was getting on his brother's account, or saying that to his CEO doesn't necessarily make it true. Do you believe everything you're told on the internet? I don't think the API lets you see his IP address or his login information, only CCP can see that. And what they see is two accounts, probably logging in from the same location, and perhaps even paid under the same name from the same card. Despite what was said in game, CCP probably doesn't have any concrete indication of account sharing.

As for skillpoints, post screenshots of lost SP and restored SP.

I also kinda wished you'd posted logs of how you originally came into contact with this guy and conned him into giving away his assets and podding himself. The most interesting part of the scam is how its pulled off, but I don't see any of that here. No screenshots of wallet, no screenshots of traded assets. No screenshots of before/after character sheets. Disappointing.

This.

But we all know the only valid way to play EVE Online and take ISK from other players is via le majesties honourable lowwesec ~PvP~.

I requested CCP speak to me before taking any action, but I did not receive a response.

Yo Ero, come down to Provi to spear head your crusade and we'll see if CCP is showing favoritism after we have taken a few SP of yours. or have you already forgotten about it? No minerbumping posts on it so far...

Don't have anything else to say in this thread except who the **** are you that CCP should talk to you before dealing with another customer? Talk about having your entitled nose in the air.

"Oh boy, let me send a largely irrelevant post to this thread where this person I don't like is. That'll show 'em."

I was just wondering where this crusade was, and i like Ero, i only shoot people who i like.

Heavy received 17mil SP for free, after his actions, which included account sharing, set him back that much in skillpoints.

I believe the answer to that would be.

Someone who was about to publish yet another travesty by CCP.

First off "Travesty"? Secondly, AND?

I'd love to know what some of you people have accomplished to warrant this degree of entitlement. Are you perhaps all princes and princesses?

Ok so we have your opinion then that giving someone 17,000,000 SP back for their stupidity is just great then.

As to the degree of entitlement, well how about we just believe the EULA should be enforced the same for every player, not just on CCPs whim. You may believe that CCP should just give people what ever they feel like at any moment, I however do not.

First off "Travesty"? Secondly, AND?

I'd love to know what some of you people have accomplished to warrant this degree of entitlement. Are you perhaps all princes and princesses?

If the answer you give isn't "Nobody" it's the wrong answer, because in this instance that's exactly who all of you are.

I'd love to know what some of you people have accomplished to warrant this degree of entitlement. Are you perhaps all princes and princesses?

I was pretty clear in what I said. You're a pubbie so you're obviously slow but you can't quote someone then say they said something they didn't. At least edit/remove it to fit your invented narrative. Nothing you said answers in any way the question which is who the **** are you to be privvy to the communications between CCP and another customer? Least of all to the degree that you demand they speak to you before doing their jobs?

If the answer you give isn't "Nobody" it's the wrong answer, because in this instance that's exactly who all of you are.

:edit: for the record I agree that if the facts are what they are the dude shouldn't have gotten any SP back. Not disputing that just disgusted with how some of you plebs present yourselves.

Yeah, travesty. How hard did Goons cry when they found out BoB had received dev favour, again?

Well, for a start, plenty of people have sunk hundreds or thousands of dollars into this game. Perhaps we're "entitled" to fair and competent customer services, and are "entitled" to be judged equally under the EULA that we all agreed to. Even you, my special snowflake. The "grr goons" crowd may argue that there's some :tinfoilbollocks: going on, but you like us all are subject to CCP's rules.


And eerm... who are you? Oh, that's right. Just another subscriber to this game. No matter how big the e-peen you flail with wild aggression.

Who are you? Some kind of Mittani alt or something? Erotica 1 is a public servant and a future CSM member. He's a pretty big deal.

There has always been backlash whenever CCP reimburses a carebear for stuff they lost by being terrible. It takes no level of entitlement, and it is to be expected. After all, the amount of whining on the forums is the metric CCP uses to measure whether a decision of theirs was good or bad.

Who are you? Some kind of Mittani alt or something? Erotica 1 is a public servant and a future CSM member. He's a pretty big deal.

There has always been backlash whenever CCP reimburses a carebear for stuff they lost by being terrible. It takes no level of entitlement, and it is to be expected. After all, the amount of whining on the forums is the metric CCP uses to measure whether a decision of theirs was good or bad.

No one said anything about demanding to speak to them before they do their jobs.

I requested CCP speak to me before taking any action, but I did not receive a response.

Read much?

If the answer you give isn't "Nobody" it's the wrong answer, because in this instance that's exactly who all of you are.

Maybe you should buy a dictionary and look up the words

Demand and requested.

Your definitions are 100% opposite from the truth.

Asking someone to talk to you, because you have in your possession pertinent evidence: a reasonable request. Not showing entitlement.

Calling a bunch of other people "nobody": An insult which obviously says much more about you than it possibly could about a huge crowd of random people. This shows that you consider yourself entitled. Calling everyone pubbies and publords only continues to show your feelings of entitlement.

I'm glad I could help with your lack of understanding in this matter.

Given that there's very little difference when questioning one's sense of entitlement I guess I'll just go ahead and lean back.

I don't even care what this thread is about - I'm just laughing my butt off that people are supporting erotica

Like, he's the most successful scammer in this game, you guys really shouldn't take him serious at all...

I'll vote for him for CSM though, I'd love to see the highsec pubbie outcry when they realize who they voted for

You may want to look up "entitlement" I don't think it means what you think it means. Especially given that in that context the insinuation was not that I was "Somebody" but rather merely that you are "nobody" in the context of a communication between CCP and another customer. It was pretty clearly stated as such.

That would probably be good.

Seeing as you seem to be the one suffering from a huge sense of self entitlement.

Nor the ability to understand the English language.

I don't understand what it is with you people and reading comprehension but I never suggested that you weren't entitled to quality customer service. I understand it's difficult to handle someone suggesting that you are less important than you've convinced yourself that you are but it will be more helpful to the conversation if you'd at least pretend to respond to what I was asking instead of offering something unrelated as an excuse for your boorish behavior.

I also never said you shouldn't be mad. Nor did I suggest the person in question should have gotten this SP back. I will repeat for the third time in caps in case maybe you folks have eye problems "WHO THE **** ARE YOU THAT CCP SHOULD CONSULT YOU ON THE PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THEM AND ANOTHER CUSTOMER BEFORE TAKING ACTION?"

The response you posted to the second quote doesn't even make sense. Just post it in your native language next time and let me google translate it.

I understand it's difficult to handle someone suggesting that you are less important than you've convinced yourself that you are.

You may want to look up "entitlement" I don't think it means what you think it means. Especially given that in that context the insinuation was not that I was "Somebody" but rather merely that you are "nobody" in the context of a communication between CCP and another customer. It was pretty clearly stated as such.

In a casual sense, the term "entitlement" refers to a notion or belief that one (or oneself) has a right to some particular reward or benefitGÇöif given without deeper legal or principled cause, the term is often given with pejorative connotation (e.g. a "sense of entitlement").

Read much?

You may want to look up "entitlement" I don't think it means what you think it means.

You should probably look that word up as well. Calling your "CSM Candidate" or whatever the OP out for acting entitled doesn't confer any entitlement on me. I'm presuming this is what passes for some pubbie attempt at being macchiavellian but for the record you look pretty dumb.

I was pretty clear in what I said. You're a pubbie so you're obviously slow but you can't quote someone then say they said something they didn't. At least edit/remove it to fit your invented narrative. Nothing you said answers in any way the question which is who the **** are you to be privvy to the communications between CCP and another customer? Least of all to the degree that you demand they speak to you before doing their jobs?

If the answer you give isn't "Nobody" it's the wrong answer, because in this instance that's exactly who all of you are.

:edit: for the record I agree that if the facts are what they are the dude shouldn't have gotten any SP back. Not disputing that just disgusted with how some of you plebs present yourselves.

Stop derailing the thread by focusing on what was obviously a troll instead of the dangerous precedent that CCP could be setting here.

"Hee hee they aren't in my super sekrit goons club, they're all dirty pubbies!"
So tell me, where did you get your sense of entitlement from? You're in Goonswarm, good for you. Point out to me why your opinion is suddenly the top notch in this thread.

Once again insults because you believe you are better than me.

You feel entitled to insult others.


FAIL!!!

These communications aren't exactly "private" if we have our hands on 'em.

Who am I? I'll put it in capitals for you since you obviously seem to be hard of thinking:

I. AM. A. PAYING. CUSTOMER. DO. YOU. SPEAK-A. MY. LANGUAGE? ENTITLEMENT. TO. THESE. COMMUNICATIONS. COMES. THROUGH. THE. SCRUTINY. PROVIDED. BY. THIS. PARTICULAR. "WHISTLEBLOWING". -. CCP. ARE. NOT. DOING. PART. OF. WHAT. THEY. ARE. PAID. FOR. WHICH. IS. TO. RUN. THE. GAME. PROPERLY.

Mais si vous voulez, je peux parler en Francais? C'est pas d'une probleme, meme si je n'ai pas les accents pour des caracteres dans mon clavier. Je ne suis pas forte aussi avec le masculin ou feminin. Maintenant, je vais repeter moi-meme:

"VOUS ETEZ IDIOT. VOUS N'ETES PAS 'FLOCON DE NEIGE SPECIALE'. NOUS SOMMES LES PERSONNES DE QUI LES EMPLOI+ëS DE CCP GAGNER LEUR ARGENT. POURQUOI NOUS N'AVONS PAS LE DROIT D'ENTENDRE CE QUI PASS+ë?"


And oh please, in the light of your posting, this is just cute.

I am better than you. You can stop implying that I've said it and just quote this directly next time so it's at least factual.

I understand it's difficult to handle someone suggesting that you are less important than you've convinced yourself that you are.

These communications aren't exactly "private" if we have our hands on 'em.

you say that like CCP care about setting dangerous and dumb precedents.
see the sticky that has been abandoned for nearly a month.

Being a paying customer entitles you to nothing more than either continuing to pay or ceasing to pay. It does not entitle you to the private communications between the business and another customer.

Being a paying customer entitles you to nothing more than either continuing to pay or ceasing to pay. It does not entitle you to the private communications between the business and another customer.

Dear Darius, before posting in GD, perhaps you should run your ideas by your corpmates first. I look forward to representing you in the next CSM.

In regards to my petition, I will not divulge the details or screen shot it. I'll just say that I gave more than enough information to have the petitions linked and provide ample evidence for any questions they may have. Instead, mine was closed and he was awarded the SP. One would think that someone making a decision like this should have some internal checks and balanes, or at least think to himself as he's pressing the button, that this is going to be a **** storm. What happens in the petition department and is there no oversight?

There's not much more in this world I could give less of a **** about than the CSM so best of luck I guess.

Honestly, y'all need to chill.

So some nub that Erotica managed to scam (or however he managed to get the API) got some SP. What's this guy gonna do, fit t2 mining lasers to his hulk? The SP is non-transferable.

Going over every tiny interaction CCP has with its player base will accomplish nothing, it will only deaden the communication channels that exist between the player base and the devs.

The rules you assume should be equal for everyone.

Honestly, y'all need to chill.

So some nub that Erotica managed to scam (or however he managed to get the API) got some SP. What's this guy gonna do, fit t2 mining lasers to his hulk? The SP is non-transferable.

Going over every tiny interaction CCP has with its player base will accomplish nothing, it will only deaden the communication channels that exist between the player base and the devs.

I thought it was pretty clear that Ero was asking for CCP to talk to Ero about the case before refunding the SP; and that Ero was not asking for copies of private communications between the business and another customer.

I'm not sure why I was able to understand this and you weren't, except of course for the possibility that I'm better than you.

That said, that's all a side point; this is really about you insulting a bunch of people hypocritically and being called on it. Whatever Ero did or didn't do doesn't excuse your behavior; two wrongs don't make a right.

Ladies and gents, the words of an ex CCP employee.

Your petition was closed because this isn't about you. It never was and it never will be. If you spent time studying CCP's policies, which you should probably know a thing or two about before questioning them, you'll find that they're forbidden from discussing another customer's petition with you.

There's not much more in this world I could give less of a **** about than the CSM so best of luck I guess.

At least you managed to squeeze that sentence out without any glaring errors. Congrats bro you're learning!

think you've pretty much missed the point.

If you don't know CCP's policies well enough to know that they can't discuss this with you then perhaps you should spend more time understanding what you're mad about before you get mad about it and act the fool. The fact that as best as I can tell you're all lowest denominator eve bottom feeders only makes your apparent sense of entitlement more interesting.

Under that theory, since Erotica also petitioned the incident, CCP should have been forbidden from discussing the incident with the alleged skillpoint loser. Clearly, that's not how it works, CCP felt free to respond to each person about the petition they made.





Well, you've made multiple posts about the CSM recently, so I'm sorry to hear you care so little about the world.

Don't have anything else to say in this thread except who the **** are you that CCP should talk to you before dealing with another customer? Talk about having your entitled nose in the air.

2) If you honestly thing that some group (e.g. CCP) needs to ask your (i.e. some random guy) permission before it talks to someone else (e.g. some other random guy), you need to get your head checked. That's not how the world works.

So..... /thread?

Interesting. Besides my French grammar, pick me up on anything else, please? Your teachings are nectar, oh sweet master.

I don't even know what the hell that second bit is supposed to mean.

It should have been "Besides my French grammar have you picked up on anything else?". The poetry at the end was perfect however. It must be a French thing.

Keep spewing out insults while calling everyone else mad, it's a good look.

I just don't think that it's worth picking this particular fight with CCP at this particular time.

Go back to school, take some English lessons. You don't seem to be able to comprehend much of what is said, despite its perfectly passable language.

It's not an insult. It's a statement of fact. There sure are a lot of hurt NPC corp characters in this thread!

There was nothing passable about this sentence. Just stop.

OP is stating CCP should have consulted with him to get both sides of the actual story, as the actual story leaves no room for reimbursement under CCP's own rules. Pull your collective heads out of your collective asses, you human bovine metaphors.

Birds of a feather, apparently.

It's not an insult. It's a statement of fact. There sure are a lot of hurt NPC corp characters in this thread!

Let's play "spot the error".

I like EVE.

No, I understand the point perfectly, and I agree that CCP shouldn't reward or compensate for stupidity (see my first post). I just don't think that it's worth picking this particular fight with CCP at this particular time.

No, I understand the point perfectly, and I agree that CCP shouldn't reward or compensate for stupidity (see my first post). I just don't think that it's worth picking this particular fight with CCP at this particular time.

i've never understood the relevance of your corp in relation to forum posts.

There sure are a lot of hurt NPC corp characters in this thread!

It's certainly an issue and CCP should go over it and probably reverse their decision but holy christ is this a ham handed attempt at manufacturing drama.

The problem here is it doesn't fit Erotica 1's attempt at creating a scandal if it's not a tremendous deal. This is pretty transparent and silly.

It's certainly an issue and CCP should go over it and probably reverse their decision but holy christ is this a ham handed attempt at manufacturing drama.

The perception is that if a character is actively in a corp with some kind of history it's not just the OP's 7 alts pretend raging in order to give the appearance of scandal in their manufactured drama thread.

:edit: whether that's actually the case or not. That's the perception.

Let's play "spot the error".

Self proclaimed?

How about fully documented?

Self proclaimed.

From CCP's point of view:

"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."

From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:

"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"

For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.

Self proclaimed.

From CCP's point of view:

"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."

From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:

"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"

For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.

Self proclaimed.

From CCP's point of view:

"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."

From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:

"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"

For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.

If we don't show up and yell at CCP that they're doing something wrong, then how will they ever know they've done wrong? We need to let them know, or let the game slowly begin to wither and die.

Alright, lets pretend your rearing a child.
Do you yell at them for every little trivial mistake they make? No, you quietly correct them and only yell at them for the big mistakes, because those lessons really matter and need to stick. If you yell at them for every little thing, each day, every day they become accustomed to your yelling. It becomes background noise, they ignore it.

We just had massive fcking forum shtstorms regarding gold magnates, massive favoritism, and RMT on the eve of the release of Rubicon. Also some EULA stuff too. That stuff was kinda important.

This stuff? Peanuts. So some fool that got scammed (or otherwise convinced to give over his API to erotica) got some SP. So what? Oh noes, he'll have a better refine rate or t2 minning crystals or whatever.

Small time, barely affecting one player, in a game with problems that affect thousands. This triviality isn't worth it.

Self proclaimed.

From CCP's point of view:

"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."

From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:

"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"

For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.

You making me reply to this thread is harassment enough. Talk is cheap though.

Bleak Lands. Kourmonen. I'm based there. If you 'content creators' would like to further assist 'content creashuns' and silence a horrible pro-bot aspirant loser, please. Come hither.

And before you rebut with "why don't you come after us, silly carebear coward," CONCORD said I'm not allowed to.

But hey plenty of content to create down here! Come on down!

Alright, lets pretend your rearing a child.
Do you yell at them for every little trivial mistake they make? No, you quietly correct them and only yell at them for the big mistakes, because those lessons really matter and need to stick. If you yell at them for every little thing, each day, every day they become accustomed to your yelling. It becomes background noise, they ignore it.

We just had massive fcking forum shtstorms regarding gold magnates, massive favoritism, and RMT on the eve of the release of Rubicon. Also some EULA stuff too. That stuff was kinda important.

This stuff? Peanuts. So some fool that got scammed (or otherwise convinced to give over his API to erotica) got some SP. So what? Oh noes, he'll have a better refine rate or t2 minning crystals or whatever.

Small time, barely affecting one player, in a game with problems that affect thousands. This triviality isn't worth it.

you're right, that stuff was important.
it's a shame CCP decided to not give a ****, provide 0 worthwhile response, and have ignored the issue for the last 3 weeks.

maybe if we point out they are systematically and repeatedly ******* up, they might realise we have legitimate concerns.

I requested CCP speak to me before taking any action, but I did not receive a response.

My uncles ghost accessed my account and failed to train when I asked him to for two months during 2009... can I get my lost SP back?

The gold magnates were stopped. The RMT was closed down ....slowly (oh, and ccp, fck you for giving somer 10 days to cash out their RMT op). The massive favoritism happened, but we made a huge stink and it may be a while before it happens again.

The forums do have some small influence. It's not worth expending it on some worthless triviality just so Erotica has higher visibility before his run for CSM.

You didn't lose any sp, you never got them...

The gold magnates were stopped. The RMT was closed down ....slowly (oh, and ccp, fck you for giving somer 10 days to cash out their RMT op). The massive favoritism happened, but we made a huge stink and it may be a while before it happens again.

The forums do have some small influence. It's not worth expending it on some worthless triviality just so Erotica has higher visibility before his run for CSM.

You're right, let's ignore the precedent being set down here. Players of EVE! It is of no importance that you are no longer responsible for your own stupidity! Go about your business as usual.

he lost potential SP.

Honestly, if you think CCP follows precedents, you haven't been paying attention.

he lost potential SP.

Honestly, if you think CCP follows precedents, you haven't been paying attention.

If you play then lottery and don't have winning combination, you don't lose millions of dollars.

...face it Ero, it's CCPs game, and they do whatever they want with it/in it and around it.

You gain SP every second of every day. There is no chance of not getting it, or getting a lot of it.
A lottery is entirely random chance.

CCP are simply inconsistent in it's enforcement of the rules.

Tell me something, do you think an organization that is "inconsistent in it's enforcement of the rules" will somehow change its inconsistency based off of one trivially insignificantly case? Do you honestly think that such an inconsistent organization uses such trivial events as precedents for later action?

CCP doesn't follow precedent, never has. Don't believe me? They flip-flop on whether a dozen decloak cans on a gate is either allowed or a bannable repeat offense on an almost weekly basis. CCP does not follow precedent on anything. If they did, they would never have given out rare blueprints again after T20.

In other words you can't be bothered to object.

K, threadnaught for every tiny little thing Erotica digs up in his publicity stunt for his CSM run. CCP completely ignores the player base thereafter. Gotcha.

BTW The next threadnaught should complain about smart bombing the Jita IV-4 undock. It's a bannable offense, you know. Only station in eve off which smart bombing will get you a ban. Way-inconsistent, and blatant favoritism for the Jita residents.

See you guys in the next publicity-stunt threadnaught, same time tomorrow? Or do we wait a couple days?

This is bigger than Erotica 1.

This is about standing against carebear entitlement.

Something that obviously isn't important to you.

...get podded over 50 times and ...

81 pods. If you are going to sperg all over the forums, at least get facts right.

Like I said, see you guys in Erotica's next publicity stunt threadnaught.[/b]

Wow, this idiot just got scammed and lost a bunch of SP. Let's just interfere in our player driven game where we actively encourage this kind of activity.

It was his fault and it should be his responsibility to retrain or cease playing. CCP should not be interfering.

This is bigger than Erotica 1.

What most of you geniuses fail to comprehend is that CCP is a business.

As a player of a sandbox game that is popular for being harsh I too would say; 'The idiot had it coming, screw him. No-one that stupid should even be playing this game.'

However, for CCP this person, no matter how stupid, is a paying customer. If a slight interference will ensure he remains a (happy) paying customer then so be it. When it comes to the bottom line that's an easy decision to make. As long as it doesn't affect the game's economy or otherwise tips the balance in someone's favor.

What you people label as a 'scandal' is in reality just a business trying to keep its customers happy the best it can. You really need to keep a firm eye on where the game sandbox ends and CCP as a real world company with real world employees to pay begins. Those two don't always go together.

The term 'player driven' is exactly that. Driven. EVE is not player created or player managed. It's player driven. The reality is that CCP gets the final say in absolutely everything, including the decision to give some poor smuck his SP back. Agree with it or don't, luckily it really doesn't matter a tiny little bit.

What most of you geniuses fail to comprehend is that CCP is a business.

As a player of a sandbox game that is popular for being harsh I too would say; 'The idiot had it coming, screw him. No-one that stupid should even be playing this game.'

However, for CCP this person, no matter how stupid, is a paying customer. If a slight interference will ensure he remains a (happy) paying customer then so be it. When it comes to the bottom line that's an easy decision to make. As long as it doesn't affect the game's economy or otherwise tips the balance in someone's favor.

What you people label as a 'scandal' is in reality just a business trying to keep its customers happy the best it can. You really need to keep a firm eye on where the game sandbox ends and CCP as a real world company with real world employees to pay begins. Those two don't always go together.

The term 'player driven' is exactly that. Driven. EVE is not player created or player managed. It's player driven. The reality is that CCP gets the final say in absolutely everything, including the decision to give some poor smuck his SP back. Agree with it or don't, luckily it really doesn't matter a tiny little bit.

(stuff)
-Zazz

-E1-4-CSM-

Ummm we are all paying customers....

Doesn't that mean we should all be getting 'slight interference' to the tune of 17,000,000 SP to keep us happy?

This is where your argument falls down, where one paying customer is treated better than the rest or is allowed to ignore the rules.

Welcome to the real world. Please name one business that does not work like this?

Go into Wallmart, complain about something and if the manager thinks it's economically justified to give you a gift card for your troubles then that's what he does. But the manager might just as well tell the guy to get lost and lose a customer. That's his decision and his decision alone. Coincidentally you have the same type of people in Walmart as on these forums. Person A got a gift card so logically person B should get one too because it's only fair

So tell me, if you get a gift card from Walmart for some kind of inconvenience, you think every customer of Walmart should get a gift card too? What world do you live in?

Welcome to the real world. Please name one business that does not work like this?

Go into Wallmart, complain about something and if the manager thinks it's economically justified to give you a gift card for your troubles then that's what he does. But the manager might just as well tell the guy to get lost and lose a customer. That's his decision and his decision alone. Coincidentally you have the same type of people in Walmart as on these forums. Person A got a gift card so logically person B should get one too because it's only fair

So tell me, if you get a gift card from Walmart for some kind of inconvenience, you think every customer of Walmart should get a gift card too? What world do you live in?

It is not about favoritism it is about money. In a case like this they need to way up exactly the same questions and in this case was making 1 person happy likely to give them more money compared to the loss they may suffer because of another case of them ignoring the EULA?

How is this troll so successful?

Is the train out of control ?

That's exactly what I was saying (apparently we agree after all). And apparently someone at CCP weighed the options and felt that his would be the best result. And he's probably right. Because out of all the people who have been screaming 'IMMA UNSUB' for the past few weeks, how many do you think actually will? 80% of GD is pure trolling anyway and the other 20% will have forgotten this ever happened by the time their sub expires.