Was playing around with NullSec exploration fits in Pyfa when I heard mention that there's a 30 seconds recloak delay when jumping through a gate? Entire purpose of Stratios defeated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong - is it a 30 seconds delay after jumping through a gate, or is it a 30 second delay after jumping through a gate in which you were cloaked when you landed on the other side?

I have a lot of excellent fits for sentry drones but don't feel like sharing them. The secret is to use expensive modules and to make due with a 3 slot tank in either shield or armor.

I suppose i should also check out fits for heavy drones setups, which save you having to use omnilinks or drone scope ships or DLAs. Which probably leaves you room to fit lasers.

The Stratios item description states: Can fit covert ops cloaking device.
This is true.
Untrue is, you can not use it as such.

Maybe qualifies for a bug report.

Notes: Can fit a covert ops cloaks and cynosural field generators. Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds.

Can fit covert ops cloaks and use covert jump portals.

Not a bug, that is actually a listed bonus on most of the covert ships look at a Cheeta



Stratios


See the difference? Its by design, it has to be.

Can not confirm 30 seconds.

I tested it in high and low sector with Covert Ops Cloak (about 10 sec) and 'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device (about 9 sec).

You come through the gate and you are still cloaked. Align to next warp point/ gate , get in warp and then count to 9 (or 10 depending on cloak) and you will be able to cloak again. This means you come out from the gate cloak and you have maybe still 6-8 seconds until you can cloak again.

Too long comparing to a normal covert ops or blockade runner. As mentioned - useless in WH, low or 0.0

The Stratios item description states: Can fit covert ops cloaking device.
This is true.
Untrue is, you can not use it as such.

Maybe qualifies for a bug report.

Amazing, I am a relative noob to EVE having only played around 5-6 months however have been having no problems at all with the Stratios in both low sec and null. I have been through several gate camps including a truly scary one with 20+ multiple T3's including a cerberus and several loki's.

The simple trick is about 1-2AU from the destination gate, uncloak in the warp. Jump gate. Warp/Recloak.. no delay.

IMHO, this ship is superb for what I use it for. I go on 30j trips through low/null doing exploration. Make several safes and use the mobile depot to refit to what I need to do data/relic sites and refit again for combat sites. I can then refit for travel and onwards again. The cargo bay size is slightly under what I would like but I am just selective over the loot I keep.

The downside of course to this is the cost of the ship + carrying around the modules for refits (it certainly ain't cheap for a noob like me!). Naturally I know the risks and no tears will be shed when I lose it (which I will sooner or later), it's just too much fun travelling around in to allow the risk to stand in the way.

Anyway back on point...

The ship is perfectly fine as it is. It should not be as good as a pure covops ship at using it's cloak, if it was it could only be described as overpowered given the low skill requirements.

For those who are showing fits without cloaks.

Ishtar does it better. Both in PvP and PvE.

It also does it at a much better price.

Cloak or you are wasting the Stratios.

Fixed it for you.

You are right.

What makes the Stratios still of no use as Covert Ops and will remain in Highsec

Here's an all-in-one exploration fit I was thinking of:

[Stratios, Exploration]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
10MN Afterburner II
Relic Analyzer II
Data Analyzer II
Large Capacitor Battery II

Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Ogre II x4
Garde II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Wasp EC-900 x4
Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot I x1

You should bring a some extra drones: different heavies/sentries/extra lights/mediums, some Scorch/Conflag, a set of different hardeners, an extra T2 medium repper, 3 cap rechargers and the Mobile depot so you can refit for up to 6/10 DED plexes with the fit I posted earlier in the thread, as well as being able to do exploration sites. I would also bringg some nanos/warpstabs/plates/shield extenders/neuts for a travel fit for travelling around more hostile areas of nullsec, with a proper travel fit you'll be nigh uncatchable except for the biggest and most well organized gatecamps.

This is going to be the best all-in-one explorer by a mile.

Um....what am I missing, because this fit doesn't come within a hundred miles of fitting CPU-wise. CPU is maxed out before you fit half these mods.

So...what am I missing?

For exploring this is what I was going for

Stratios

High -
- Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
- 'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
- 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
- 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
- 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

Medium -
- Relic Analyzer II
- Data Analyzer II
- Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
- Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
- 10mn afterburner II

Low -
- Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
- 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
- Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
- Drone Damage Amplifier II
- Damage Control II

Rig -
- Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II
- Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
- Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Drone bay -
- Bouncer II x5
- Garde II x5
- Valkyrie II x5
- Warrior II x5
- Vespa EC-600 x5
- Hornet EC-300 x5

Cargo -
- Nanite Repair Paste x1,200
- Barrage M x6,800
- Hail M x6,800
- Republic Fleet EMP M x6,800
- Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M x6,800
- Navy Cap Booster 400 x12
- Warrior II x10
- Hornet EC-300 x10
- GÇÿYurtGÇÖ Mobile Depot
- Mobile Tractor Units "If possible"


This will be used to do all different scannable sites in New Eden, for exploring the amazing sights to see all over New Eden, and for staying out in 0.0 for long periods of time.

This is the fit i want to try out in some plexes, usually up to 6/10

Stratios plex
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Drone Damage Amplifier II

i can see this ship be a succesful high sec explorer but in highsec the payout is not high enough to justify such an expensive ship. at least thats what i have heard.

Well, you've heard wrong. 300m is not very expensive for highsec explorers, especially considering its the only probe-strength bonused cruiser hull that can run a 4/10.

Well, you've heard wrong. 300m is not very expensive for highsec explorers, especially considering its the only probe-strength bonused cruiser hull that can run a 4/10.